Thursday, July 22, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1826

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Regarding personal pay
From: jai karthik

2a. Re: Circle conference-Kerala
From: muralidharan muralidharan
2b. Re: Circle conference-Kerala
From: JASVIR JASSAL

3. National Fund Contribution
From: Shivnath Mishra

4a. Re: Regarding ITR excel file for income tax return
From: surinder mittal

5a. Re: SURINDER,BANDHAN,VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA & OTHER WHO SERIOUS ABT NEW D
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

6a. Fw: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
From: Jasvant Parmar
6b. Re: Fw: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

7. BIHAR CIRCLE CONFERENCE
From: Manoranjan Shrivastava

8a. Re: Critical Broadband Problem-Help
From: MAHESH


Messages
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1a. Regarding personal pay
Posted by: "jai karthik" brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in brain007_rjk
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:00 pm ((PDT))

Hi friends...

                              Is any of our friends got personal pay on may/ June month in tamilnadu circle.. plz mail me with your salary slip... its very urgent... 


Jaikarthik
TTA(Sales)
Karaikudi SSA
Tamilnadu circle


Messages in this topic (2)
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2a. Re: Circle conference-Kerala
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:02 pm ((PDT))

Congratulation
All the best


A Muralidharan TTA

District President SNATTA Trichy  SSA

Tamil Nadu

--- On Wed, 21/7/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Circle conference-Kerala
To: "tta" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 10:47 AM

 






Dear friends,
We have successfully conducted our second Circle conference. We express our sincere thanks to the CC of Tamilnadu Mr.Pradeep for participating the meeting. He is a man of deep thought about BSNL and TTA cadre. A big majority of the representatives were from the 2008 batch. Naturally they were unhappy towards the current wage revision. The 2003 batch TTAs were of the opinion that our era is over. We couldn't become JTO yet and now there is no monitary benefit even if we become a JTO now. In wage revision too nothing got compared to the central govt. The present increase would be there even if there is no association or union since it was offered by the management at the beginning of discussion itself. We got some benefit that is very close to TMs but far away from executives.
Now the scenareo has been changed. The service condition reduction is very much beneficial for the new TTAs. So they have to come forward for this objective. Now our most immediate demand is fitment/pay up gradation/ pay scale merger for the new TTAs. Considering these facts the present leadership was ready to hand over the leadership to the new TTAs. But the new TTAs wanted the present leadership to continue and they were posted in the deputy posts.
During discussion around half of the SSA leadrers wanted SNATTA to continue as an association and maintain the dual membership.
After a detailed discussion the new office bearers were elected unanimously and the Central Coordinator Abhilash approved the newly elected body. All the active leaders of 2008 batch TTAs were elected to the Circle body.
President - Nazar.S(Trivandrum SSA-2003 batch)

Vice President - Sujith(Ernakulam SSA-2008 batch)
                      - Ulahannan(Calicut SSA-2003 batch)
                      - Jeevan Babu(Kollam SSA-2008 batch)
                      - Sooraj(Trivandrum SSA-2008 batch)
Secretary        - Manoj Kumar K.V(Kannur SSA-2003 batch)
Joint Secretary - Hakkim(Malappuram SSA-2008 batch)
                       - Renny John(Pathanamthitta SSA-2003 batch)
                       - Vinod(Palakkattu SSA-2003 batch)
                       -  Arun(Kannur SSA-2008 batch)
Organising Secretary : Rajesh Sekhar(Kottayam SSA-2003 batch)
                                : Shafi M.S(Trivandrum SSA-2002 batch)
Treasurer - Vinod(Malappuram SSA-2003 batch)
Asst.Treasurer - Sree Kumar(Trivandrum SSA-2002 batch)
Executive Committee members:Gireesh( Trivandrum- 2008), Maneesh(Ernakulam- 2008),Priyesh Varghese(Alappuzha- 2008),Jayasree Suresh(Trivandrum- 2003), Vidya(Kannur- 2008),Prasanth, Jithesh(Ernakula m SSA-2008),Nandanan( Malappuram) -2008

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766





Messages in this topic (3)
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2b. Re: Circle conference-Kerala
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:50 am ((PDT))

 
 
 
Friends,
 
             Congratulations for kerala circle conference & i am very glad to know from website of snatta that resolution has been passed at kerala regarding wage loss to new ttas "
A resolution expressing the dissatisfaction in signing the Wage Agreement by SNATTA was passed by the Circle Body. "
                                                    
                                                 This is a very solid action by kerala circle. I request to all circles that all circles should pass these resolutions , so that we come to final conclusion at national conference at GOA that why we have missed justified wage for tta cadre.
 
Jasvir jassal,
vice-president-snatta-pb,
09417434555.
                                                       
 
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 20/7/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Circle conference-Kerala
To: "tta" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 10:17 PM


 

Dear friends,
We have successfully conducted our second Circle conference. We express our sincere thanks to the CC of Tamilnadu Mr.Pradeep for participating the meeting. He is a man of deep thought about BSNL and TTA cadre. A big majority of the representatives were from the 2008 batch. Naturally they were unhappy towards the current wage revision. The 2003 batch TTAs were of the opinion that our era is over. We couldn't become JTO yet and now there is no monitary benefit even if we become a JTO now. In wage revision too nothing got compared to the central govt. The present increase would be there even if there is no association or union since it was offered by the management at the beginning of discussion itself. We got some benefit that is very close to TMs but far away from executives.
Now the scenareo has been changed. The service condition reduction is very much beneficial for the new TTAs. So they have to come forward for this objective. Now our most immediate demand is fitment/pay up gradation/ pay scale merger for the new TTAs. Considering these facts the present leadership was ready to hand over the leadership to the new TTAs. But the new TTAs wanted the present leadership to continue and they were posted in the deputy posts.
During discussion around half of the SSA leadrers wanted SNATTA to continue as an association and maintain the dual membership.
After a detailed discussion the new office bearers were elected unanimously and the Central Coordinator Abhilash approved the newly elected body. All the active leaders of 2008 batch TTAs were elected to the Circle body.
President - Nazar.S(Trivandrum SSA-2003 batch)

Vice President - Sujith(Ernakulam SSA-2008 batch)
                      - Ulahannan(Calicut SSA-2003 batch)
                      - Jeevan Babu(Kollam SSA-2008 batch)
                      - Sooraj(Trivandrum SSA-2008 batch)
Secretary        - Manoj Kumar K.V(Kannur SSA-2003 batch)
Joint Secretary - Hakkim(Malappuram SSA-2008 batch)
                       - Renny John(Pathanamthitta SSA-2003 batch)
                       - Vinod(Palakkattu SSA-2003 batch)
                       -  Arun(Kannur SSA-2008 batch)
Organising Secretary : Rajesh Sekhar(Kottayam SSA-2003 batch)
                                : Shafi M.S(Trivandrum SSA-2002 batch)
Treasurer - Vinod(Malappuram SSA-2003 batch)
Asst.Treasurer - Sree Kumar(Trivandrum SSA-2002 batch)
Executive Committee members:Gireesh( Trivandrum- 2008), Maneesh(Ernakulam- 2008),Priyesh Varghese(Alappuzha- 2008),Jayasree Suresh(Trivandrum- 2003), Vidya(Kannur- 2008),Prasanth, Jithesh(Ernakula m SSA-2008),Nandanan( Malappuram) -2008

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

Messages in this topic (3)
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3. National Fund Contribution
Posted by: "Shivnath Mishra" shivnath.mishra@yahoo.com shivnath.mishra
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:03 am ((PDT))

  Hello to All SNATTA'ians

The fund  of Rs. 7000/- has been deposited  to National fund by Gujarat Circle
as per decision in circle conference held on 18.07.2010..


Shivnath Mishra
Circle treasurer
Gujarat Cirle 


Messages in this topic (1)
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4a. Re: Regarding ITR excel file for income tax return
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:05 am ((PDT))

first validate & then creat ITR file.

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

On Wed Jul 21st, 2010 3:42 AM PDT NARESH CHANDER wrote:

>Dear friends,If any body have prepared the excel file for filling income tax return then please  mail me theexcel file.thanks   
>
>NARESH CHANDERTTA - BROADBANDMAIL ID : naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in
>


Messages in this topic (3)
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5a. Re: SURINDER,BANDHAN,VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA & OTHER WHO SERIOUS ABT NEW D
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:08 am ((PDT))

hi Jasvir..

thanks for such a b'ful compliment i am glad that people like you have come
forward to appreciate the good work done by somebody especially when the
terms between me and circle body is not so good after Feb 6, 2010 meeting in
New Delhi.

But to be true i have always stand by the right ones and i have always
worked sincerely for the BSNL and SNATTA.
i am waiting for a day when our GS Dharmendra Verma acknowledges my work for
the SNATTA. i am still unsure whats going in his mind and why he his
ignoring my all mails and messages.

anyway hoping all would be well in coming days. i am quite glad that members
of SNATTA recognizes my work which ultimately gives me more motivation to do
more and more.

thanks everybody for working sincerely for your Association.

in last, i would say ls consider my request for Change of AIC meeting date.

regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh*

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:48 PM, JASVIR JASSAL <jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *Friends,*
>
> I am very much impressed by the views given by above lions of
> snatta.These guys have done & suggested very valubale things releated to new
> designation.
> The great thing created by lion of punjab Mr.
> Bandhan i.e POLL FOR NEW DESIGNATION , for this many-many thanks for mr.
> bandhan.I request to all members please VOTE FOR NEW DESIGNATION.
>
> One more thing i.e request to all new
> friends batch 2007/2008/2009 , please come forward & give views for new
> designation. This is very important because SINGLE ONE WORD ENGINEER IN OUR
> DESIGNATION , I THINK WILL CHANGE FUTURE OF TTA CADRE FOR ALL TIME.Now its a
> high time to think about the new designation.As declared by mr. SURINDER
> this is a BURNING ISSUE.
>
>
>
> Jasvir kumar jassal,
> vice-president-snatta-pb,
> 09417434555.
>
>
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (2)
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________________________________________________________________________
6a. Fw: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:09 am ((PDT))

Dear,Senthilkumar,
                       He uses Nokia-Siemens Type-II modem(Also given
Syrmatech)....and i come to know from Bandhan that to lower the
profile from 2 Mbps to 1 Mbps to make stable ADSL and SNR to increase...You
said to higher the profile...how? Please Explain.. 
 Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: appu appu <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 7:06:24 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help

 


________________________________

first pl tell the make of ur modem...if it belongs to shirma technlogies or
teracom, then make some firmwere updations.they r available in their web
sites...n ask for NIB people to change the profile of the concerned account from
2 Mb/s to 6/8 Mb/s.....after a very long period only v found this way for
rectification. ... don check the cable pair then and there....check once...thats
more than enough....pl try it.. there is no need to change any thing from
CDOT/OCB side...for a BB conxn even dial tone is not required...
Er.Senthilkumar,
Broadband Engineer(TTA) ,
mayiladuthurai,
tn circle
From: arun kumar <la_arun_kumar@ yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tue, 20 July, 2010 9:40:27 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help

 
hi,
  Pl chk the SNR value in MDF, Next in pillar (use WLL chrger to power ur modem,
laptop),
 This two will give u clear idea were the fault is...

1. Use LED in the cable pair without connection from MDF, if the cable pair has
foriegn voltage, LED will glow.
2. Chk for loop resistance from MDF to pillar, if it varies abnormally, go for
other pair,

For me it took around 80 pairs to make through an MLLN connection.
Try ur best.
Never give up...

Regards,
L.A. Arunkumar,
TTA External,
Chennai Telephones,
Chengalpattu.

________________________________
From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ ymail.com>
To: tta bsnl <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Tue, 20 July, 2010 12:54:50 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help

 


Hi Friends,
                I have Critical problem in Broadband ADSL link-C-dot indicator.
ADSL gone after 2 minutes.SNR stays between 8-10 in any condition. I have been
done following tests for this problem.
(1) Modem checked-it found ok.
(2) Primary changed 4 times.
(3) Distribution pairs changed.
(4) Dislam port changed 3 times. 
(5) Modem checked at Pillar.
(6) Given Primary of working stable broadband connection.
(7) C-Dot LCC card changed.
(8) C-Dot TEN changed.
(9) Changed indicator from C-Dot to OCB.
(10) What's Next? 

 Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 


Messages in this topic (10)
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6b. Re: Fw: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:49 am ((PDT))

Dear Jasvant,

you are right about profile, but lowering profile will also restrict speed
upto profile maximum limit. so those having 256 Kbps, 512 Kbps and 1 Mbps
speed Plans will only be given 1 Mbps profile so that their maximum speed
does not suffer.

The lower profile could also be given to those who are at longer distance
from the DSLAM (telephone exchange) or having unstable DSL Link or having
poor line quality but they have to compromise with the speed (upto 1 Mbps)
if they have higher speed plans like 2 Mbps or 8 Mbps. It should be clearly
conveyed to the user that your speed will suffer and Either he cannot use
Internet at all (due to unstable DSL) or wants to enjoy speed atleast upto 1
Mbps.

The lower profile *could not* be given to* IPTV connections* as IPTV needs
minimum 4 Mbps profile to work properly. so if in case user has poor line
quality and line could not be rectified using all means for both IPTV and
BB, then suggest user to disconnect IPTV and use broadband happily. (also
BSNL gets only less commission from IPTV company so WHY to let user suffer
with our indigenous broadband service and loose large chunk of revenue).

*Most important Instruction for Broadband Engineers:-*
if DSL link is not stable first look out for profile speed under Downstream
Data Rate or Line Rate, it is specified in kbps. See it should be according
to the Plan of the user and most likely it should be 2 Mbps or 2048 Kbps. if
its higher than this number and user plan is lower than 2 Mbps or equal to 2
Mbps then ucan easily lower the profile to suits its speed and stability.
and same with the case of low speed in higher plan, look out for profile it
should be higher for higher plan but not on the cost of low SNR or Unstable
DSL link. rest all depends upon your understanding.


*All Broadband Engineers are requested to read my below articles* (link
given) to get more know-how about Broadband and Internet.

http://punjab.bsnl.co.in/bb_probs.htm

http://punjab.bsnl.co.in/bandhan_bb1.html

Lets make our Broadband Service on Top of the world and make sure it remains
No.1 in India and constantly receiving accolades from public and media
(recently CNBC Awaaz gave Broadband award to BSNL)


*Comments, Criticism and Compliments* are always welcomed.

regards,
* Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer,
Mohali, Chandigarh SSA

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dear,*Senthilkumar,*
> * *He uses Nokia-Siemens Type-II modem(Also given
> Syrmatech)....and i come to know from Bandhan that to lower the
> profile from 2 Mbps to 1 Mbps to make stable ADSL and SNR to increase...You
> said to higher the profile...how? Please Explain..
>
> * Jasvant Parmar*
>
> *TTA(Broadband)*
>
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
>
> *9426655777*
>
> **
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* appu appu <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wed, July 21, 2010 7:06:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *first pl tell the make of ur modem...if it belongs to shirma technlogies
> or teracom, then make some firmwere updations.they r available in their web
> sites...n ask for NIB people to change the profile of the concerned account
> from 2 Mb/s to 6/8 Mb/s.....after a very long period only v found this way
> for rectification. ... don check the cable pair then and there....check
> once...thats more than enough....pl try it.. there is no need to change any
> thing from CDOT/OCB side...for a BB conxn even dial tone is not required...
> *
> *Er.Senthilkumar,*
> *Broadband Engineer(TTA) ,*
> *mayiladuthurai,*
> *tn circle*
> *From:* arun kumar <la_arun_kumar@ yahoo.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>
> *Sent:* Tue, 20 July, 2010 9:40:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
>
>
>
> hi,
> Pl chk the SNR value in MDF, Next in pillar (use WLL chrger to power ur
> modem, laptop),
> This two will give u clear idea were the fault is...
>
> 1. Use LED in the cable pair without connection from MDF, if the cable pair
> has foriegn voltage, LED will glow.
> 2. Chk for loop resistance from MDF to pillar, if it varies abnormally, go
> for other pair,
>
> For me it took around 80 pairs to make through an MLLN connection.
> Try ur best.
> Never give up...
>
> Regards,
> L.A. Arunkumar,
> TTA External,
> Chennai Telephones,
> Chengalpattu.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ ymail.com>
> *To:* tta bsnl <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
> *Sent:* Tue, 20 July, 2010 12:54:50 PM
> *Subject:* TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
>
>
>
>
> *Hi Friends,*
> * I have Critical problem in Broadband ADSL link-C-dot
> indicator. ADSL gone after 2 minutes.SNR stays between 8-10 in any
> condition. I have been done following tests for this problem.*
> *(1) Modem checked-it found ok.*
> *(2) Primary changed 4 times.*
> *(3) Distribution pairs changed.*
> *(4) Dislam port changed 3 times. *
> *(5) Modem checked at Pillar.*
> *(6) Given Primary of working stable broadband connection.*
> *(7) C-Dot LCC card changed.*
> *(8) C-Dot TEN changed.*
> *(9) Changed indicator from C-Dot to OCB.*
> *(10) What's Next? *
>
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
7. BIHAR CIRCLE CONFERENCE
Posted by: "Manoranjan Shrivastava" m_9430923355@yahoo.co.in m_9430923355
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:43 am ((PDT))

dear friends,
bihar circle conference is to be organised on 25.07.2010
all TTAs are requested to participate in it with full enthusiasm & energy.
 
FRIENDS IT'S TIME TO ACT.
 
manoranjan shrivastava
 

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
8a. Re: Critical Broadband Problem-Help
Posted by: "MAHESH" mjs13_2@yahoo.com mjs13_2
Date: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:50 am ((PDT))

Change splitter
plug direct Telephone line coming from d.p. to modem without splitter

MAHESH SONI
Mehsana
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com> wrote:


From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Critical Broadband Problem-Help
To: "tta bsnl" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:54 PM


 

Hi Friends,
                I have Critical problem in Broadband ADSL link-C-dot indicator. ADSL gone after 2 minutes.SNR stays between 8-10 in any condition. I have been done following tests for this problem.
(1) Modem checked-it found ok.
(2) Primary changed 4 times.
(3) Distribution pairs changed.
(4) Dislam port changed 3 times. 
(5) Modem checked at Pillar.
(6) Given Primary of working stable broadband connection.
(7) C-Dot LCC card changed.
(8) C-Dot TEN changed.
(9) Changed indicator from C-Dot to OCB.
(10) What's Next? 

 Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 


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