Sunday, July 18, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1819[1 Attachment]

There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Suggestions for Designation Change..
From: Balvinder singh

2a. Suggestions
From: dil se

3a. Re: Finally I have paid "Building Fund".
From: devendra singh

4a. Re: MUST READ>> Difference between BSNL Broadband and Airtel Interne
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

5a. Re: Illusion of Brain---we don't always see what we think we see.
From: devendra singh

6a. Re: Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, CS-SNATTA Punjab_about designa
From: surinder mittal

7a. MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: surinder mittal

8. Suggestion for Change of AIC meeting date.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9. Re: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: shamsul huda

10. Mutual transfer Haryana To UP.
From: alok kumar

11a. KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (
From: surinder mittal


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1a. Re: Suggestions for Designation Change..
Posted by: "Balvinder singh" channni03@yahoo.co.in channni03
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:51 am ((PDT))

Hello Amin ji
        Please dont see other  assets and dont oppose any thing but demand for
ur better . Let others also enjoy. So fight for our  self what others get it
their luck . Demand better designation for you.
Sorry it is just a suggestions to the brothers. By the way what is their Desig.
Balvinder
TTA Kalka
09416460600


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From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 17 July, 2010 4:32:19 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Suggestions for Designation Change..

 


.

Dear Bandhan & Others
 
It is astonishing to see the new designation proposal of SrTOA to Telecom
Executive, who are unable to pass even the screening test of TTA departmental
exam. Since beginning the attitude of bsnleu is to support this cadre outrightly
and add salt to our wounds. There is also a proposal to increase the salary of
this cadre clandestinely. We should oppose this move and even boycot the meeting
of designation change until the word executive is removed from their new
designation. Is there no one to question them the reasoning or justification of
putting the suffix as executive to a non-executive, that too a lower cadre? At
least there should be some opposition from the executives for this proposal.
 
Also, the promises given by bsnleu is not to be taken as granted as they are
rest assured for another six months about the union subscription after the datum
line of 15 July is over. Also, no one can force any TTA or any one else to pay
for their building fund, we have the moral duty to contribute for the welfare of
our association.

 
I hope better things will prevail in the minds of sincere TTAs before
contributing anything to other union. Our expenditure for various struggles are
increasing day by day due to inappropriate support from the recognised union who
got this status just because of our support.
 
Our CHQ leaders should issue proper timely guidelines to TTAs on this sabotage
motives of other union. Also provide the post 2007 TTAs subsidy in delegate fee
to enable them to attend the forthcoming AI conference in a large scale.
 
Sincerely
SN Ameen, Jeddah, KSA.

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2a. Suggestions
Posted by: "dil se" dilwarse@yahoo.com dilwarse
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:52 am ((PDT))

very good comment bandhan ji
i fully agree on your view.

s s ojha TTA
agra

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3a. Re: Finally I have paid "Building Fund".
Posted by: "devendra singh" dksgurdaspur@yahoo.co.uk dksgurdaspur
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:48 am ((PDT))

Dear Sandeep,
                           Your lines are axecctly true that " They are asking fund from BSNLEU members. We may deny at Local Level" but we must have any clear instruction on ground of which we can deny to pay them.
 
If we are giving fund  to EU then that is on our own  but it is loss of SNATTA and its members. 
 
 
Personally I'm not able to understand the problem of chq to issue such a short instruction on snatta.org webpage, while  they are insisting even 2002/09 batch recrutees TTAs also. 
 
So chq its time to act now.
 
regards,
 
Devendra Singh
Gurdaspur
  
 
 

--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Re: Finally I have paid "Building Fund".
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 12:00


 


To give fund to BSNLEU is our own descision. They are asking fund from BSNLEU members. We may deny at Local Level.
With pressure of District level BSNLEU, if we are giving fund then that is on our own. We can't blame CHQ for every thing.
 
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440


From: lucky_nagaur <lakshya2001@ gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, 15 July, 2010 11:09:26 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Finally I have paid "Building Fund".

 

Dear Devendra,
this is very sad on SNATTA point of view that our members are being pressurized by BSNLEU local leaders to pay the Building fund. it's very disgusting that still CHQ has no comments over the issue. At Nagaur Rajasthan also we are being pressurized from today onwards, as they know that the time frame ( 15th july) to withdraw the membership has paseed and we have no option other than paying to them. I was told by BSNLEU DS that our CHQ is also getting the amount from our monthly union subscription. I want to ask everyone whether this is true or not?If our CHQ is getting funds from our monthly union subscription then what is the necessity to collect funds and transfer to CHQ. Please, make a clear stand on this issue, otherwise we are not able to pay seperately for two unions.WE CAN PAY EITHER OF THE TWO, SNATTA OR BSNLEU.Now it is upto CHQ to decide, and decide at the earliest, to whom to pay any amouny. We here in Nagaur has taken time up to 31st July, if
no stand of SNATTA CHQ comes on this issue till then, we will have to pay the Building Fund.

Hoping the same condition in almost all SSAs.Please keep in touch.

Sushil Choudhary
DS, SNATTA
Nagaur-rajasthan
09413394233

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, devendra singh <dksgurdaspur@ ...> wrote:
>
>    Due to unclear instructions, unclear vision and unclear decision of SNATTA chq. and pressure built by local unit of BSNLEU, I have finally paid "Building Fund" to BSNLEU.
>  
> regards
>  
> DEVENDRA SINGH
>


Messages in this topic (8)
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4a. Re: MUST READ>> Difference between BSNL Broadband and Airtel Interne
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:50 am ((PDT))

dear saha,

good to hear from u again..i am very glad to see TTA are upgrading their
Qual side by side. keep it up brother.

by the way... i have just Highlighted the few Plans and USP of BSNL. my
focus on such plans which giving unlimited experience to the users.
otherwise i am of the same opinion as yours.

bandhan

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi!.
> There will be always difference of opinions. There is a diference between
> not telling somthing and lying about something. Lying - can give u short
> time gain, but in the long run you are bound to loose.
> In other case, your progress mai be slow, but the relationship with your
> customers will be a strong nad reliable one.
> By the way, I have also done 3 yrs PGDPM, only thing I have not sublitted
> my research paper.
> I am also doing MCA from IGNOU.
>
>
> *mANAs kUMAr sAHa*
>
> TTA
>
> NIB Node
>
> Siliguri
>
> 094343-09229/094755-04858
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Fri, July 16, 2010 9:43:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL MUST READ>> Difference between BSNL Broadband and
> Airtel Internet connections.
>
>
>
> Dear saha,
>
> i knew every plan. see i am a management (MBA) student so i think like a
> marketing guy. the mail that i sent to group is also forwarded to more than
> 200 people on my contact list. i want to leg pull the Airtel guys..
>
> after that mail i got a lot of queries abt bsnl broadband plans..
>
> hope u got my point.!!
>
> bandhan
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo. com<maansaha@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> BSNL also has introduced many unlimited plans which have Fair usage
>> Policy, like, Home Combo ULF 1350 which is speed upto 2 Mbps upto 15 Gb,
>> then it will be 512 Kbps for the rest of the month. Same way, BBG 3300
>> (speed 512 Kbps upto 100 GB, then 256 Kbps), BBG 6000 (speed upto 1 Mbps
>> upto 150 GB etc).
>> For details, see www.bsnl.co. in <http://www.bsnl.co.in/> ->
>> Services-Broadband -> Postpaid Tariff
>>
>> *mANAs kUMAr sAHa*
>> ***TTA*
>> *NIB Node*
>> *Siliguri*
>> *094343-09229/ 0947550458
>> *
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com <email13@gmail.com>>
>> *To:* bandhan-preet- singh <Bandhan-Preet- Singh@yahoogroup s.com<Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> *Sent:* Wed, July 14, 2010 8:35:08 PM
>> *Subject:* TTABSNL MUST READ>> Difference between BSNL Broadband and
>> Airtel Internet connections.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Difference between BSNL Broadband and Airtel or Private Operator's
>> Internet connections.*
>>
>>
>> *If you have an Airtel Internet connection* with an �unlimited� data
>> plan, things may not be the same again.*Under its Fair Usage Policy*, if
>> your downloads cross 40 GB, your download speed will be �rationalised by up
>> to 50 per cent for the rest of the billing cycle�. What this means is that
>> you will get only half the speed. For example, if you have opted for the 512
>> Mbps unlimited plan, if you cross 40 GB, your download speeds will be
>> reduced to 256 Mbps till the billing cycle. The normal speed will be
>> restored at the beginning of the next billing cycle. Airtel says, �The
>> intent of the Fair Usage Policy is to provide the optimum internet
>> experience to all customers.� Source:-
>>
>>
>> *In BSNL Broadband or Data Cards, there is no restriction imposed
>> anywhere of anykind in Unlimited Plans.*
>>
>> In BSNL, you can enjoy UNLIMITED internet without any Download Limits.
>>
>> for Broadband and Wimax Tariff click here http://bsnl. in/service/
>> dataone_tariff. htm <http://bsnl.in/service/dataone_tariff.htm>
>>
>> for CDMA Data Cards (NIC & EVDO) Tariff click here http://bsnl.
>> in/service/ internet_ on_cdma.htm<http://bsnl.in/service/internet_on_cdma.htm>
>>
>> for 3G Data Card Tariff click here http://bsnl. in/service/ 3G/3G_files/
>> 3g.htm <http://bsnl.in/service/3G/3G_files/3g.htm>
>>
>> for 2G Data Card Tariff click here http://bsnl. in/service/
>> mobile_gprswap. htm#tariff<http://bsnl.in/service/mobile_gprswap.htm#tariff>
>>
>> pls forward to your friend circle so they can get benefit out of it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bandhan Preet Singh,
>> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>> Think Different... Think Good..!!
>>
>> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different... Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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5a. Re: Illusion of Brain---we don't always see what we think we see.
Posted by: "devendra singh" dksgurdaspur@yahoo.co.uk dksgurdaspur
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:54 am ((PDT))

its really amazing
 


--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Illusion of Brain---we don't always see what we think we see.
To: "bandhan-preet-singh" <Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 20:06


 


If your brain works normally this is neat. 

This is another example of an amazing illusion!!! The last sentence is so true.

If your eyes follow the movement of the rotating pink dot, the dots will remain only one color, pink. 

However if you stare at the black "+" in the centre, the moving dot turns to green.

Now, concentrate on the black "+" in the centre of the picture. After a short period, all the pink dots will slowly disappear, and you will only see only a single green dot rotating. 

It's amazing how our brain works. There really is no green dot , and the pink ones really don't disappear. This should be proof enough, we don't always see what we think we see. 

Send this to all of your friends and amaze them.

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!! 
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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6a. Re: Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, CS-SNATTA Punjab_about designa
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:04 am ((PDT))

well Bandan...U r rightly said....

the assistant word in the last is OK. Look dear, it seems a game of just "words placing" in the designation (assistant word in the last is OK but in the begining is nail to us), but it is going to hit us the HARDEST.....

"Read between the lines"


Surinder Mittal

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, CS-SNATTA Punjab_about designation change
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 10:39 AM

 





hi...

a very good thought indeed. pls give another thought to it... RTI is a strong act and BSNL is full of flaws so avoid any controversy for our future we should think in this line also.

suriender can a Junior engineer be made responsible for RTI info.? as he is junior and non-executive then how can we make them responsible. it Group B Executive cadre which is responsible for functional deeds. one thing more if JTO is made Assitant Manager then even he can avoid as a custodian. so only SDO will have to answer all queries..??

am i right.?? then why we are worrying at JET rank.

bandhan

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:





Well Mr. Singh & others....

the game is as under :

As per the RTI Act, the CPIO or PIO may appoint any officer as Custodian to reach at the suppliable information. in mine one of the case, I submitted an application to the CPIO BSNL CO which is then transferred to CPIO @ Circle office, which is then transferred to the CPIO Ferozepur SSA, which is then transferred to mine DET (as custodian), which is then transferred to mine SDE (as custodian) to give the final reply. No matter the reply was signed by the CPIO Ferozepur, but the information so supplied to me was mentioned that "this information is given to me on the written facts as availabel form the custodians". every time the application was moved u/s 6(3) of the RTI act.

So in our case, if we comeout from the ASSISTANT domain, the SDE in this case will mark us as custodian.
where the JTO is there under that SDE, he will make the JTO as custodian which in turn mark us as custodian. As per the RTI Act, an Assistant cant be made custodian. once if we made custodian, we will become scapegoat.

So, this is the whole game for which i m personally worried about....


Surinder Mittal

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited


Punjab Telecom Circle


Abohar (152116)
Reachable @
09417583939


--- On Thu, 15/7/10, JASVIR JASSAL <jasvir_jassal@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: JASVIR JASSAL <jasvir_jassal@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, CS-SNATTA Punjab
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com


Cc: mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 10:06 AM






Dear surinder,

I personally appreciate your personal & helpless view , thank you very much for this help , please help me to understand this more so your more explanation is needed to me , you are welcome to explore more or we can exchange idea on phone.



with regards,
Hakam Singh,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.


--- On Thu, 15/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:


From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, CS-SNATTA Punjab


To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 8:22 AM


KA: Mr. Hakam Singh....

(My Personal and Helpless views)

once u got changed designation to JE T, u get out frm Assistant domain & the mgmt will make u custodian to supply information for RTIs thereby making u direct accountable to court proceedings. All the TTA will b trapped in their own net & mgmt will b in profit without any efforts.

So, think accordingly.

Surinder mittal @ 09417583939


Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited


Punjab Telecom Circle


Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Sat, 10/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com


Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattaorissa@ gmail.com, snattahp@gmail. com, snattaupwest@ gmail.com, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, snattajk@gmail. com, snattaap@gmail. com, snattabihar@ gmail.com, snattamp@gmail. com, snattaupeast@ gmail.com, snattaharyana@ gmail.com, snattachhatisgarh@ gmail.com, snattatamilnadu@ gmail.com, snattarajasthan@ gmail.com, snattagujrat@ gmail.com


Date: Saturday, 10 July, 2010, 12:08 AM



Dear Friends,

The next meeting of Designation Change Committee will be held in next week probably , so kindly give your valuable suggestions as early as possible. This is my personal request to all active members that kindly involve yourself ( each & every one ) so that we achieve this goal of new name to TTA CADRE.I want personally that all discussions/ views/opinions etc to be completed before the final decision of committee ,OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF DISCUSSION/VIEWS/ OPINIONS ETC. AFTER FINAL DECISION.Please send suggestions on designationchane@ gmail.com .


With regards,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.






--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"




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7a. MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:06 am ((PDT))

Dear all Friends....

it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.

None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).

Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.

i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.

so please spare some time for this never before discussion.


Comments Welcomed as Always.....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM

 







Dear Friends,

First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on
designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.


any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.




WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.










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8. Suggestion for Change of AIC meeting date.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:32 am ((PDT))

Dear Verma,

as per my opinion the date of AIC should be before October commences as we
will be left with no time to think as verification is coming. so we should
have plenty of time to think and act. *Earlier the Meeting better it is for
SNATTA.*

*in my opinion, best dates could be 10, 11 and 12 September for the meeting.
10th is a RH, 11 is a TH and 12th is Sunday.*
list of holidays in 2010 is also attached with this mail for your reference.

one of the other reason for suggesting a change in the AIC meeting schedule
is the Annual Award ceremony date clash with the meeting. *Every year BSNL
office celebrates BSNL day on 1st october* and gives award to some
meritorious employees. some TTAs also get this award every year. so some one
might miss the bus if we have AIC on near that day. In punjab, the award
ceremony held in chandigarh so to give support to the TTA cadre (if someone
gets it) i wish to attend the ceremony. Previously my friend Harmeet Singh
Bedi got this award and i was with him full day for his support. Even if no
TTA gets it we should attend the celebrations of BSNL Day.

i really want to be a part of the AIC this time as on all previous occasions
i could not participate because of some unavoidable circumstances. But this
time i will make it sure. i really want to meet every Dynamic TTA coming
from different parts of the India.
And i think they wanna meet me too.
anyway..i can humbly put up a suggestion for you all people to think. Last
Decision is always remains to CHQ.

i hope you will definitely give a second thought to it. Early reply is
highly appreciated.

*thanks & regards,*


*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

0172-2012013 (10-5:30 pm)

Think Different...Think Good..!!


"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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9. Re: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "shamsul huda" huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com huda_muthaleef
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:33 am ((PDT))

Dear Friends,
 
 It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
 
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB), TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
 
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI

--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo.co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo.co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo.co.in, bsnlletters@yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo.com, dev2006@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_2000@yahoo.co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>, jatinder261@gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail.com, jyoti786@rediffmail.com, maansaha@yahoo.com, mathavakutti@yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in, navdeepamb@yahoo.co.in, naveen.mehta@ambujacement.com, neeraj_udsc@yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo.com, pankajnpatil@yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@yahoo.co.in, sampad_swain2002@yahoo.co.in, sandeep_bsnl123@yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo.co.in, sandipkmodi@rediffmail.com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@rediffmail.com, shailly1979@gmail.com, shyampathak55@gmail.com, sidheshgauns@yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya_12@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya12@gmail.com,
successlalu@yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@yahoo.co.uk>, tta5year@yahoogroups.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM


--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo.com, ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM


Dear all Friends....

it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.

None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).

Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.

i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.

so please spare some time for this never before discussion.


Comments Welcomed as Always.....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM


 


Dear Friends,

First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.

any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.

WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.

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10. Mutual transfer Haryana To UP.
Posted by: "alok kumar" alok_gpm07@yahoo.co.in alok_gpm07
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:33 am ((PDT))

Hi
    I m working as TTA in Ambala cantt.I want 2 change my circle From haryana to UP.If anybody intrested 2 change circle,u can call me on mob. No. 09466621388  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alok Kumar
9466621388

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11a. KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:34 am ((PDT))

Excellent Mr Huda.....

These are the designations which i m looking for....

Kind
Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda
are the excellent.....it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
related to RTI Act.


Surinder Mittal

--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo.com>, designationchange@gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM

Dear Friends,
 
 It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us
any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation
considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
 
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name
ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU
maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB), TELECOM SERVICE
ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It
is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will
be responsible for our work.
 
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI

--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo.co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo.co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo.co.in, bsnlletters@yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo.com, dev2006@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_2000@yahoo.co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>, jatinder261@gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail.com, jyoti786@rediffmail.com, maansaha@yahoo.com, mathavakutti@yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in, navdeepamb@yahoo.co.in, naveen.mehta@ambujacement.com, neeraj_udsc@yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo.com, pankajnpatil@yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@yahoo.co.in, sampad_swain2002@yahoo.co.in, sandeep_bsnl123@yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo.co.in,
sandipkmodi@rediffmail.com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@rediffmail.com, shailly1979@gmail.com, shyampathak55@gmail.com, sidheshgauns@yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya_12@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya12@gmail.com, successlalu@yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@yahoo.co.uk>, tta5year@yahoogroups.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM


--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo.com, ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM


Dear all Friends....

it
seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going
on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our
corporate life as our court cases will be.

None of the guys
(even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the
ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain
murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone
chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc
etc).

Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy
discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must
offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the
forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited
thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all
help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This
matter is highly burning and most important to us.

i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.

so please spare some time for this never before discussion.


Comments Welcomed as Always.....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar
(152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM

 


Dear Friends,

First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted
their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a
different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar
& valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting
on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear
that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo
group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted
by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been
agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal
& in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e
JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related
to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views
immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.

any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.

WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.

--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM

 







Dear Friends,

First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on
designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.


any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.




WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.










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