Monday, July 5, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1805[1 Attachment]

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Fw: TTABSNL (Disignation Change)
From: Jasvant Parmar

2a. Re: (unknown)
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

3a. Re: Some Imaginary Laws....that will make you laugh..!!
From: meet_pyar chaudhari

4. reliance chargesheeted
From: maneesh kp

5. Fw: TTABSNL (unknown)
From: Narayan Rai

6. BSNL renovate its marketing strategy CMD , BSNL, Kuldeep Goyal
From: Priyesh Varghese


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1. Fw: TTABSNL (Disignation Change)
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Sun Jul 4, 2010 7:21 am ((PDT))

                     If Management is going to give responsibility against the change of designation then we will cheated be them another time.If we look on traditional Promotion Policy(FR-22) , there was same work on one increment.We only TTA has been taken the Designation change struggle.Why management has dicided to change for all designation.So this will not be Namboodri's achievement.All Non-executive cadres are going to change.So we should also compare with another cadre what job profile to change for them.So this is very crucial matter and need strong home work.   
 
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: meet_pyar chaudhari <meet_pyar@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 1:52:33 PM
Subject: TTABSNL (unknown)

 
Dear hakam here I want to give some suggestions about design. Change.
 
 
Firstly u know that we got salary by our work not designation name. so in this matter we should not see this item as our achievement.
It is the role of management. Whatever our designation doesn't matter .we  try to get for better salary and post, not name of designation.
 I came to know that management tries to change designation on promotion (as per NEPP).he want give us more responsibility on our same salary. So, refuse this type of option,
We should ready for take responsibility on the cost of higher salary / post(  JTO).
If management give us as junior engineer designation with JTO  equivalent responsibility on same TTA salary and if  we accept this, then why management ready for JTO LICE. He will get  JTO with salary of TTA..  Think... it……
 
 
I work in BSNL not for NAME but for salary.  I an ready if BSNL gives us Rs  50,000/month salary on the NAME technician ,but not ready for Junior engineer with JTO responsibility on current TTA salary.
 
If management not ready to give us JE (T) then don't pressure to management. Pressure only for take higher responsibility on the cost of higher salary.
 
 
Have you any experience from other non-executives  (other than DRTTA)  who want higher responsibility with current salary? Think it………….
They always demanding for less work .
 
 Bye ….
    Above all r my personal views.
 
 

YOUR'S TRULY
M J CHAUDHARI
LOCAL JCM
TTA PALANPUR
91-2742-252000


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2a. Re: (unknown)
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 4, 2010 10:08 am ((PDT))

good analysis...but some times Rank and status makes you feel good. and job
satisfaction also comes from this. i will explain later in details.

bandhan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM, meet_pyar chaudhari
<meet_pyar@yahoo.co.in>wrote:

>
>
> Dear hakam here I want to give some suggestions about design. Change.
>
>
>
>
>
> Firstly u know that we got salary by our work not designation name. so in
> this matter we should not see this item as our achievement.
>
> It is the role of management. Whatever our designation doesn�t matter .we
> try to get for better salary and post, not name of designation.
>
> I came to know that management tries to change designation on promotion
> (as per NEPP).he want give us more responsibility on our same salary. So,
> refuse this type of option,
>
> We should ready for take responsibility on the cost of higher salary /
> post( JTO).
>
> If management give us as junior engineer designation with JTO equivalent
> responsibility on same TTA salary and if we accept this, then why
> management ready for JTO LICE. He will get JTO with salary of TTA.. Think...
> it��
>
>
>
>
>
> I work in BSNL not for NAME but for salary. I an ready if BSNL gives us
> Rs 50,000/month salary on the NAME technician ,but not ready for Junior
> engineer with JTO responsibility on current TTA salary.
>
>
>
> If management not ready to give us JE (T) then don�t pressure to
> management. Pressure only for take higher responsibility on the cost of
> higher salary.
>
>
>
>
>
> Have you any experience from other non-executives (other than DRTTA) who
> want higher responsibility with current salary? Think it����.
>
> They always demanding for less work .
>
>
>
> Bye �.
>
> Above all r my personal views.
>
>
>
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>
> YOUR'S TRULY
> M J CHAUDHARI
> LOCAL JCM
> TTA PALANPUR
> 91-2742-252000
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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3a. Re: Some Imaginary Laws....that will make you laugh..!!
Posted by: "meet_pyar chaudhari" meet_pyar@yahoo.co.in meet_pyar
Date: Sun Jul 4, 2010 10:50 pm ((PDT))

one sentance for my dear bandhan
 
if bandhan's knowledge library is open, than not need to go any physical library.


--- On Sat, 3/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Some Imaginary Laws....that will make you laugh..!!
To: "bandhan-preet-singh" <Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 3 July, 2010, 9:28 PM


 


 1.Law of Mechanical Repair - After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch and you'll have to pee.

2.Law of Gravity- Any tool, nut, bolt, screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner. 

 
3. Law of Probability-The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act 

 
4.Law of Random Numbers - If you dial a wrong number, you never get a busy signal and someone always answers. 

 
5.Law of the Alibi- If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the very next morning you will have a flat tire. 

 
6.Variation Law- If you change lines (or traffic lanes), the one you were in will always move faster than the one you are in now (works every time). 

 
7. Law of the Bath - When the body is fully immersed in water, the telephone rings. 

 
8. Law of Close Encounters-  The probability of meeting someone you know increases dramatically when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with. 

 
9. Law of the Result- When you try to prove to someone that a machine won't work, it will. 

 
10. Law of Biomechanics - The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the reach. 

 
11.. Law of the Theater and Hockey Arena - At any event, the people whose seats are furthest from the aisle, always arrive last. They are the ones who will leave their seats several times to go for food, beer, or the toilet and who leave early before the end of the performance or the game is over. The folks in the aisle seats come early, never move once, have long gangly legs or big bellies, and stay to the bitter end of the performance. The aisle people also are very surly folk. 

 
12. The Coffee Law - As soon as you sit down to a cup of hot coffee, your boss will ask you to do something which will last until the coffee is cold. 

 
13.Murphy's Law of Lockers - If there are only two people in a locker room, they will have adjacent lockers. 

 
14. Law of Physical Surfaces- The chances of an open-faced jelly sandwich landing face down on a floor, are directly correlated to the newness and cost of the carpet or rug. 

 
15.Law of Logical Argument- Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. 

 
16.Brown's Law of Physical Appearance- If the clothes fit, they're ugly. 

 
17.Oliver's Law of Public Speaking- A closed mouth gathers no feet. 

 
18.Wilson's Law of Commercial Marketing Strategy-As soon as you find a product that you really like, they will stop making it. 

 
19.Doctors' Law- If you don't feel well, make an appointment to go to the doctor, by the time you get there you'll feel better. But don't make an appointment, and you'll stay sick.


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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4. reliance chargesheeted
Posted by: "maneesh kp" maneeshkp82@gmail.com maneesh_kp
Date: Mon Jul 5, 2010 2:51 am ((PDT))

The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has filed a chargesheet against
top officials of Reliance Infocomm over illegal re-routing of
international calls as
local calls.

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5. Fw: TTABSNL (unknown)
Posted by: "Narayan Rai" narayan_rai123@yahoo.com narayan_rai123
Date: Mon Jul 5, 2010 2:57 am ((PDT))

dear bandhan
what are you saying .this is not good analysis. this is very bad analysis.
do't forget logic can be stand from any side.
 first point he says Whatever our designation doesn't matter . it means he is ready to work if designation will be changed to
sweeper.
second point he is saying he will work on 50000/pm on name technician.he give imp only money not character and self respect.
A BAD CHARACTER WOMEN CAN SELL EVERYTHING FOR MONEY.MAFIA EARN MONEY BY WRONG WAY.THEY BOTH DO'T GIVE IMPORTANCE CHARACTER,SELFRESPECT.
THIRD point he is saying have you experience any nonexe demand other than tta ....
THIS SHOW HE WANTS TO WORK LIKE SHEEP.IF OTHER WILL DEMAND THEN HE WILL
UNDERSTAND AND DEMAND.
this show either he is immature or confused
NARAYAN RAI
GHAZIPUR, UPEAST
09451343700


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 10:14:12 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL (unknown)

 
good analysis...but some times Rank and status makes you feel good. and job satisfaction also comes from this.  i will explain later in details.

bandhan


On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM, meet_pyar chaudhari <meet_pyar@yahoo. co.in> wrote:

 
>Dear hakam here I want to give some suggestions about design. Change.


>Firstly u know that we got salary by our work not designation name. so in this matter we should not see this item as our achievement.
>It is the role of management. Whatever our designation doesn't matter .we  try to get for better salary and post, not name of designation.
> I came to know that management tries to change designation on promotion (as per NEPP).he want give us more responsibility on our same salary. So, refuse this type of option,
>We should ready for take responsibility on the cost of higher salary / post(  JTO).
>If management give us as junior engineer designation with JTO  equivalent responsibility on same TTA salary and if  we accept this, then why management ready for JTO LICE. He will get  JTO with salary of TTA..  Think... it……


>I work in BSNL not for NAME but for salary.  I an ready if BSNL gives us Rs  50,000/month salary on the NAME technician ,but not ready for Junior engineer with JTO responsibility on current TTA salary.

>If management not ready to give us JE (T) then don't pressure to management. Pressure only for take higher responsibility on the cost of higher salary.


>Have you any experience from other non-executives  (other than DRTTA)  who want higher responsibility with current salary? Think it………….
>They always demanding for less work .

> Bye ….
>    Above all r my personal views.


>
>YOUR'S TRULY
>M J CHAUDHARI
>LOCAL JCM
>TTA PALANPUR
>91-2742-252000
>


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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6. BSNL renovate its marketing strategy CMD , BSNL, Kuldeep Goyal
Posted by: "Priyesh Varghese" mail2priyesh@gmail.com priyeshvarghese
Date: Mon Jul 5, 2010 3:36 am ((PDT))

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BSNL's telecom services revenue nosedived by 14% during the last fiscal. Its
revenue declined to Rs 30,240 crore in FY 2009-10 from Rs 35,167 crore in
the previous fiscal. Tariff wars and competition affected its revenue
growth.

With a colossus market share of 71.8% in fixed line business (its main
revenue contributor), the company is still facing tough times. This year,
the company has ambitious plans to embark on a new journey of development by
keeping broadband at the epicenter of its policies. Keeping in view the fact
that broadband has shown an impressive growth of 33% in the last fiscal, the
company seems geared to cash on the untapped market.

A plethora of challenges were faced by the company this year. Tariff war,
which got ensued this year and managed to cause considerable disruption in
operators' revenue, also affected BSNL.

The company made attempts to renovate its marketing strategy. It tied up
with various mobile stores. Also, a manpower of 10,000 sales people were
recruited, especially for this purpose.

On the 3G front, the company also made some successful strides by spreading
its services to 430 cities. Few services from the company like high-speed
Internet access, mobile TV have been helpful in the driving some meaningful
subscriber addition. Its 3G ARPU is 40% higher than its 2G ARPU.

*BSNL - 2*
*Highlights*

- To expand 3G services in 760 cities across the country in 2010-11
- Targeting 16 mn broadband users by March 2014
- Broadband using DSL, EVDO, WiMax, etc, will be the focus area
- Due to 3G spectrum fee payment, it will reduce capex

On the broadband front, the company has plans to add 3 mn subscribers. The
company also commands a major chunk from the existing 8.5 mn subscribers
from all across the country. With the support of DIT, the company has rolled
out its broadband services in 1,000 blocks. BSNL has specific plans to focus
on WiMax for rural areas, 3G for urban areas, and EVDO for cities in a
limited way.

The company has its share of lows as well. The telecom ministry turned down
the demand by the state-run company for refund of payments made towards
spectrum fee for 3G telecom services.

On the capex side, the company had planned for Rs 14,800 crore. In the wake
of the 3G spectrum pay out, BSNL will review its capex. The company has a
huge manpower to manage and more than 50% of its expenditure goes into the
salaries that are paid to the large number of employees.
*Broadband will be our main focus area*

CMD , BSNL, *Kuldeep Goyal*
*What were the key challenges in the last fiscal ?
*There were many challenges in the last year. The biggest being the tariff
war that ensued which actually lowered the revenues of the operators. It had
a multi-dimensional impact as it posed a number of challenges. The tariff
rates brought a paradigm shift in the industry.

Also, there has been an impressive growth in the broadband segment. It has
shown a spectacular rise of 33%. On the broadband front, we have got 5.5 mn
connections out of the 8.5 mn existent connections. On the wireless
broadband side, 3G, 2G, EVDO, and WiMax will be helping us in increasing the
number of customers. There has been a reduction in the mobile revenues.

**

*What kind of subscriber growth did the PSU have in the last fiscal?
*The services that we started for 3G have given us a good response. They
were spread across 430 cities. We have 1.3 mn 3G services.

We also added 4-5 lakh MTNL connections roughly. We are seeing 3G as a big
opportunity that we can leverage on. 3G will improve voice and data. This
will further strengthen the industry. There are a few services that have
become quite popular among the subscribers like full stream video download,
mobile TV, and high speed Internet access. These services, apart from
catapulting the revenues, are also popularizing 3G.

Also, our 3G ARPUs are improving. They are 40% higher as compared to 2G. We
have various plans to deploy BWA. For the rural section, we have already
rolled out our services with the support of DIT. On the urban side, we have
800 base transmission systems.

*What are your views regarding the migration to LTE?
*In my opinion, the technology will have a natural migration to LTE.

As of now, the company has a clear-cut focus. Providing the best quality of
services is going to be our main area of concentration. We will focus on
WiMax for rural areas, 3G for urban areas, EVDO for cities in a limited way.

Also, the company has plans for promoting FTTH, which we are planning to
deploy in hundred cities. It includes enterprises as well.

*What is the company doing to improve its market position and revenues?
*We started the SWOT analysis in December, 2008 . Now, we are working with a
vision and a mission. We created four new verticals-fixed lines, mobiles,
new businesses, and enterprises.

We have focused manpower which will take care of all the niche segments.
Also, BSNL is focusing a lot on its marketing strategy. 10,000 people were
especially recruited to serve this purpose.

BSNL also introduced some specific IT tools like 'Sanchar Soft'. We held a
retail chain survey in which we discovered that 3.5 lakh shops out of 10
lakh sell BSNL products. On the new business side, we have signed agreements
with almost all the service providers and infrastructure providers. The
company has serious plans to monetize the towers and reduce opex. We also
signed an agreement to share 8,000 towers as well as fibers and bandwidth.
Also, we want to play a pivotal role in shaping the country's telecom
development.

VAS also has been able to help the company in making good revenues, with 20%
of the total revenue coming from it. It has been able to compete in this
space with other operators. In an attempt to boost the fixed line growth,
various tariff plans for mobile phones have been introduced by the company.
Also, a special effort is given in enhancing the customer care services. The
company also carried out a survey for the retail chains. Out of 10 lakh
retail shops, it was found that only 3.5 lakhs were serving BSNL products.
BSNL has also tied up with major service providers for infrastructure
sharing, which will help it monetize the towers and also to reduce opex.

The coming times seem quite challenging with private players entering the 3G
services space. Hopefully, BSNL will be able to evolve better and bigger
under the stringent competition.

The current fiscal also seems to be loaded with many challenges. After the
first mover advantage, that the telco got for 3G services, now it has to
face the fierce competition from private players in 3G services.

BSNL's success will depend on its overall marketing strategies. BSNL, which
is carrying the PSU tag, is still unable to compete with private players.
The organizational strategies chalked out Boston Consulting Group are yet to
find rewards.

If the company is able to cut down the manpower, it will be able to improve
profitability. 3G and WiMax roll outs will give BSNL the edge in rural
areas.


--
Regards
Priyesh Varghese


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