ttabsnl94: August 2010

Tuesday, August 31, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1877

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. staff amenities for TTA
From: anuj.sharma5

2a. Where is SNATTA
From: Er. Munish Bhatheja
2b. Re: Where is SNATTA
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

3. Mumps/Parotitis: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4. bond agreement regarding
From: pandu kurmi

5. Ropar to Chandigarh M.trasfer
From: Suraj Preet

6a. NIC U100 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7)
From: Bhaumik Patel
6b. Re: NIC U100 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7)
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

7a. Re: About circle conference Of Punjab
From: guraman singh

8. The first-ever web browser for India.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

Messages
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1. staff amenities for TTA
Posted by: "anuj.sharma5" anuj.sharma5@yahoo.in anuj.sharma5
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:32 am ((PDT))

hi friends,

can anyone give me the list of amenities provided by BSNL to

TTA cadre.

plz provide if possible.

thanks,

regards,

Anuj sharma

TTA, SSA - muzaffarnagar

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2a. Where is SNATTA
Posted by: "Er. Munish Bhatheja" getmoni2001@yahoo.com bhatheja_munish
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:39 pm ((PDT))

Dear members,
I have been forced to write on this platform after a long time. Every day
I am seeing mails using very very bad language by some of the members of SNATTA
blaming each other. Somebody is writing to organise CEC/Conference, some are
supporting this while some are opposing it. Everybody is busy in insulting other
more each time. SNATTA was organised as an association for achieving some goals
but not a union and we can not make a union with such no of TTAs only and at
that time nobody dare to become leader of SNATTA. I remember the days when first
DEC was organised in Ferozepur SSA and there were only 5 TTAs from whole SSA and
7 others from Circle including Mr. Hakam Singh, Mr. Tejinder Singh were there,
even no TTA from local ferozepur was there out of 15-20. Some TTAs was saying
about problem in home, some saying for sickness of wife, mother or children.
That was the time to dare to come out of BSNLEU/NFTE/Others unions but at that
time nobody dare to face these unions consequences for going to SNATTA meeting.
The old leaders had worked hard for SNATTA to reach on this peak and what we are
honouring them for their hardwork done. We are blaming them for this or that
thing only for our personal mottos. Its my challenge if there were not these
leaders at that time then today there was no SNATTA in punjab. Mr. Hakam or Mr.
Tejinder are not my relative but i respect them for their good work done in
punjab to organise TTAs of Punjab. If TTAs of Ludhiana or Jalandhar are not
agree with the circle body then why whole punjab should go with them to dissolve
the body. It is the majority who select any leader of any organisation. A CEC
was called in ludhiana by SNATTA by well informing each and every representative
( a poll result can be conducted) and a decision was taken by that CEC to
continue same body till further meeting/decision/conference, then what is wrong
in it. Then Where is SNATTA unity if we don't want to respect that supreme house
decision. If majority had decided to continue the same body then why an
individual is talking to dishonour that supreme house decision. If tomorrow a
new body created and i objected on that with some of my close friends on this
platform then would the new body would be dissolved again and how long this will
continue.

We are well educated community in BSNL and we are behaving like illetrate
people. Some things we achieved by pressurising BSNLEU are only and only due to
SNATTA unity not due to our strength but due to our brain. Others unions think
that we are educated community and they afraid that we are capable of break
their members by educating them or by helping them in their routine work. So
these things that are happening on this platform will bring bad consequences in
name/fame of SNATTA. If our broken unity shown to other unions then they will
beat us individually and nobody will help us. You can see the example of unity
in other unions however they are illetrate but they are unite. If their single
man say to do something then all go behind him but not thinking about the
consequences/personal motto. THATS IS UNITY. I remember the words of BLIND
HORSE said by District Secy BSNLEU to his members and that is and that is unity.
So my dear SNATTAians don't go in game of politics. Just learn to respect
the chair assigned to any person by the house of association.

BE MATURE

Your SNATTAian
Er. Munish Bhatheja

TTA Group Abohar,
LCM, Ferozepur SSA.
Mob : 09417078787

________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTA BSNL <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 3:20:20 AM
Subject: TTABSNL some latest news from www.snatta.org

Related News:
All the Circle Secretaries are requested to collect the Rs.100/- towards annual
fee for the year 2010-11 and deposit the CHQ quota of each member till 31st
July, 2010 without fail in the SNATTA CHQ Axis bank S/B A/C 204010100060738,
Rohtak, Haryana. It will be the responsibility of each circle secretary to
deposit fund by 31st July, 2010.

Dt 23-08-2010CHQ writes to Shri. D.P. De. General Manager (Estt), BSNL for
granting pay protection to the non executives recruited on and after 1.1.2007 by
according suitable fitment benefit.Click here

Dt 21-08-2010Photos of the Venue at GOA for AIC. Click here

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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2b. Re: Where is SNATTA
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:17 am ((PDT))

hi Munish..

*you did a good job by elaborating all the pros and cons of association.*
I think everybody should learn from your saying.
but one thing more i want to add here that *we should conduct CEC Conference
soon and sort out all the matters amicably and if not then by
democratically.* there is no harm in conducting any conference it will
definitely boost the faith among fellow memebers only. it does not matter if
we conduct CEC in Ludhiana, jallandhar, amritsar or chandigarh. but we
should conduct it in a convenient location for everybody. And it would be
obvious that what ever SSA conducts CEC they have to arrange all.
*The problem of Ludhiana need to be addressed immediately*, as we are
reading a lot of stuff from everybody so if there is a SMOKE then there must
be some FIRE.
*And Change is the only Constant in life.*
So we should not worry about the change at any level just think about the
positive change only. *How we can channelise the energies of all members in
a proper & positive way & direction.*
i personally not against anyone but if there is any problem then there
should be some solution as well. so we need to dig out and find the answer
soon.

i am also very much depressed to know about some differences among
Shailender Saraswat (including around 60+ members) and Mr.Hakam Singh.
i already advised Hakam that Ludhiana problem need to be solved so we can
work upon other issues of TTAs rather than accusing each other and weakening
the Unity of SNATTA. i request both sections to sit again at a common place
and resolve their differences. *And also there is a need of Circle
Conference in Punjab before AIC as per CHQ order.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
*

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com
> wrote:

>
>
> Dear members,
> I have been forced to write on this platform after a long time.
> Every day I am seeing mails using very very bad language by some of the
> members of SNATTA blaming each other. Somebody is writing to organise
> CEC/Conference, some are supporting this while some are opposing it.
> Everybody is busy in insulting other more each time. SNATTA was organised as
> an association for achieving some goals but not a union and we can not make
> a union with such no of TTAs only and at that time nobody dare to become
> leader of SNATTA. I remember the days when first DEC was organised in
> Ferozepur SSA and there were only 5 TTAs from whole SSA and 7 others from
> Circle including Mr. Hakam Singh, Mr. Tejinder Singh were there, even no TTA
> from local ferozepur was there out of 15-20. Some TTAs was saying about
> problem in home, some saying for sickness of wife, mother or children. That
> was the time to dare to come out of BSNLEU/NFTE/Others unions but at that
> time nobody dare to face these unions consequences for going to SNATTA
> meeting. The old leaders had worked hard for SNATTA to reach on this peak
> and what we are honouring them for their hardwork done. We are blaming them
> for this or that thing only for our personal mottos. Its my challenge if
> there were not these leaders at that time then today there was no SNATTA in
> punjab. Mr. Hakam or Mr. Tejinder are not my relative but i respect them for
> their good work done in punjab to organise TTAs of Punjab. If TTAs of
> Ludhiana or Jalandhar are not agree with the circle body then why whole
> punjab should go with them to dissolve the body. It is the majority
> who select any leader of any organisation. A CEC was called in ludhiana by
> SNATTA by well informing each and every representative ( a poll result can
> be conducted) and a decision was taken by that CEC to continue same body
> till further meeting/decision/conference, then what is wrong in it. Then
> Where is SNATTA unity if we don't want to respect that supreme house
> decision. If majority had decided to continue the same body then why an
> individual is talking to dishonour that supreme house decision. If tomorrow
> a new body created and i objected on that with some of my close friends on
> this platform then would the new body would be dissolved again and how long
> this will continue.
> We are well educated community in BSNL and we are behaving like
> illetrate people. Some things we achieved by pressurising BSNLEU are only
> and only due to SNATTA unity not due to our strength but due to our
> brain. Others unions think that we are educated community and they afraid
> that we are capable of break their members by educating them or by helping
> them in their routine work. So these things that are happening on this
> platform will bring bad consequences in name/fame of SNATTA. If our broken
> unity shown to other unions then they will beat us individually and nobody
> will help us. You can see the example of unity in other unions however they
> are illetrate but they are unite. If their single man say to do something
> then all go behind him but not thinking about the consequences/personal
> motto. THATS IS UNITY. I remember the words of BLIND HORSE said by District
> Secy BSNLEU to his members and that is and that is unity.
> So my dear SNATTAians don't go in game of politics. Just learn to
> respect the chair assigned to any person by the house of association.
>
> BE MATURE
>
> Your SNATTAian
>
> *Er. Munish Bhatheja
> *
> TTA Group Abohar,
> LCM, Ferozepur SSA.
> Mob : 09417078787
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *To:* TTA BSNL <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Mon, 23 August, 2010 3:20:20 AM
> *Subject:* TTABSNL some latest news from www.snatta.org
>
>
>
> * **Related News:*
>
> *All the Circle Secretaries are requested to collect the Rs.100/- towards
> annual fee for the year 2010-11 and deposit the CHQ quota of each member
> till 31st July, 2010 without fail in the SNATTA CHQ Axis bank S/B A/C
> 204010100060738, Rohtak, Haryana. It will be the responsibility of each
> circle secretary to deposit fund by 31st July, 2010.*
>
>
>
> *Dt 23-08-2010*CHQ writes to *Shri. D.P. De. General Manager (Estt), BSNL*for granting pay protection to the non executives recruited on and after
> 1.1.2007 by according suitable fitment benefit.* Click here<http://snatta.org/news/Pay%20Protection%2022.08.2010.pdf>
> *
>
>
>
> *Dt 21-08-2010Photos of the Venue at GOA for AIC. Click here<http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/sredir?uname=snattachq&target=ALBUM&id=5507530653091528145&authkey=Gv1sRgCOmzjKOE4I-k2QE&feat=email>
> *
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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3. Mumps/Parotitis: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:54 am ((PDT))

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Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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4. bond agreement regarding
Posted by: "pandu kurmi" pandu_kurmi@yahoo.com pandu_kurmi
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:48 am ((PDT))

hi i have one dought here the bond agreement period will be considered from
trining or appointment.please give me details ..................Thank You
--------
With regds,
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T.T.A NIB II BSNL
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Saifabad, Hyderabad-4.
Mobile: +91 9491550091

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5. Ropar to Chandigarh M.trasfer
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:51 am ((PDT))

IF ANYBOBY INTRESED TO COME IN ROPAR FROM CHD. CONTACT ME.
SURAJPREET SINGH
9779112806

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6a. NIC U100 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7)
Posted by: "Bhaumik Patel" bhaumik.patel01@yahoo.com bhaumik.patel01
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:51 am ((PDT))

If anyone has 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7) of NIC card, then kindly sent it to me
patelbhaumik03@yahoo.co.in

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6b. Re: NIC U100 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7)
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:28 am ((PDT))

hi..

pls check yahoo group attachments, i have already uploaded to the yahoo
group.
pls see the link below and find the attachment
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/message/11649

*bandhan preet singh*

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Bhaumik Patel <bhaumik.patel01@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> If anyone has 32 bit drivers (for Windows 7) of NIC card, then kindly sent
> it to me
> patelbhaumik03@yahoo.co.in
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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7a. Re: About circle conference Of Punjab
Posted by: "guraman singh" guraman_singh@yahoo.co.in
Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:55 am ((PDT))

u people(amritsar,pathankot,gurdaspur,taran taaran) are never reach in any meeting till date and now u say to held meeting in jalandhar .if hakam singh held the meeting in jalandahr can u reach there from above written ssa.

--- On Fri, 27/8/10, kirpal singh <kirpsingh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: kirpal singh <kirpsingh@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL About circle conference Of Punjab
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: kirpsingh@yahoo.co.in
Date: Friday, 27 August, 2010, 10:02 PM

I Request Shri Hakam Singh Ji Circle Secretary Punjab to Organise The Circle Conference at Jalandhar Since it is The center Place of Punjab and It would be convenient for maximum TTA Friends to reach there

Kirpal Singh TTA
Amritsar

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Date: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:26 am ((PDT))

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BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

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Monday, August 30, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1876

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. How to Slim Down: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

2. cec punjab
From: sanjay gupta

3. Information urgent required
From: Er. Munish Bhatheja

4a. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: muralidharan muralidharan

5a. Re: 3G Training
From: LALUNAIK

6a. Re: service quarter
From: Devarshi Shukla

7a. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
From: Devarshi Shukla
7b. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
From: Devarshi Shukla

8. Tinnitus: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9. regarding 3g
From: manish raj

10. 3g O&M
From: shasikanta mutum

11. RPR. TO CHD. M.TRANSFER
From: Suraj Preet

Messages
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1. How to Slim Down: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:33 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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2. cec punjab
Posted by: "sanjay gupta" sanju515631@yahoo.co.in sanju515631
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:23 am ((PDT))

I also thank CHQ for organising circle conference in punjab.I fully agreed with Naveen to conduct meeting in either ludhiana or jalandhar for the ease of all our tta friend.Also two member from chq should be there.Once again thank for this positive step for all our tta brother.

sanjay kumar
tta ludhiana

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3. Information urgent required
Posted by: "Er. Munish Bhatheja" getmoni2001@yahoo.com bhatheja_munish
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:26 pm ((PDT))

U.P. Friends,

one bsnl no 8004424462 is calling me all the day and disturbing me for whole the day. Any CCN friend pl give me details of this no either on my mail id or by sms to 09417078787. Thanks

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4a. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:36 pm ((PDT))

Dear VK Anand
"

Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree. " This seems to be that like me Diploma holders will be untouched for the up gradation. I already mentally prepared as I have completed 55 years of age ( I think a some amount of TTAs will be there in my category ) about the promotion which is not in sight for the year or two? ( one think I can be satisfied with the name of designation change at least ) . Though the CHQ has done the comandable job, it has the responsibility to look after all TTAs welfare too. For this, the time bound promotion like excicutives will be the suitable choice . But is it possible???? . Negociation with all concerened can fetch us early result.

A Muralidharan TTA

District President SNATTA Trichy SSA

Tamil Nadu

--- On Sat, 28/8/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 28 August, 2010, 4:44 PM

Rakesh,
Who are you to ask this question to Dhiraj? What you did for us in these 8 years? Could you point out a single effort other than an elephant zero? You can't ask this question just because your contribution is just a mosquito compared to Dhiraj's. If there was no court case then definitely you would retire as TTA. We had a situation which can't be handled by even "United Nations". Now that is being handled by the CHQ. If they fails then it is our fate only. Nobody else can do better than them. Right? Your dream and hope is given only by them, man! The likes of Dhiraj, Pardeep etc are hard working for you even after becoming JTOs? For what? They are becoming fools since they are doing it for people like you. Dear Dhiraj, please do just one percentage of your efforts for your pet dog. It Will have 100 times more gratitude than us.
LOVELY! ..What lovely in you man?

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 10:12 PM

Dear Mr. diraj choudhary

then pls clear it ....

wht solution you and SNATTA got in 8 years...???

All we got is....
Just court case and Contempt of court case

regards
Rakesh Choudhary 9418030555
TTA (TRANS)
Dalhousie , HP

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 6:31 PM

Dear V K Anand

It appears that you do not have the better understaning of this subject.
Sorry to say but your suggestions are misleaden to others.
However I know that your intentions are not so.
It is good to see that at least you have tried your level best.
I requst you to please refrain yourself to suggest others.
Most probably we will discuss it with all our members over this matter in our forthcoming AIC at GOA. Please come there, otherwise call me at 09412777798.
Pl treat it friendly.

Yours
Dhiraj Chaudhary
EX-GS SNATTA

From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 11:56:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!

Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :

OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.

We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.

Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.

BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.

Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.

LICE should be conducted regularly.

Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335

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5a. Re: 3G Training
Posted by: "LALUNAIK" successlalu@yahoo.com successlalu
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:38 pm ((PDT))

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, shasikanta mutum <shasi_mutum@...> wrote:
>
> Hai,
> Is there any one who is working in 3G section and anyone who got 3 weeks 3G O&M training from JABALPUR. Please give me your contact no.
>
> Regards,
> M Shasikanta,
> TTA-Mobile,
> NE-II Circle.
> 9436023007
>
>
>
>hi i am lalunaik
i am interested to take 3 g training
my mobile no.9440161922
mail:successlalu@yahoo.com

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6a. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:38 pm ((PDT))

DEAR FRIENDS

WE ARE PAYING HRA AS A PERCETAGE OF BASIC PAY. IF ANY INDIVIDUAL "A" IN NE 9
PAY BAND WHICH BASIC PAY IS GREATER THAN THAT OF THE INDIVIDUL"B" IN E-1, THEN
"A" IS PAYING MORE AS COMPARED TO "B".THIS RULING IS UNJUSTIFIED AND SHOULD BE
RAISED IN NCM.
FOR EXAMPLE:-

E-1 NE-9
BASIC PAY 16400 18500
HRA @ 20% 3280 3700
ELIGIBLE FOR TYPE III NOT ELIGIBLE FOR TYPE III

Devarshi Shukla
LUDHIANA SSA
MB9417222200

________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 9:11:56 PM
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter

Friend
You can get type III rd quarter by paying 3times of the licence fee subject to
type IIIrd quarter must be vacent for more than 90 days because of absence of
eligible candidate and you will vacate the quarter if any eligible candidate
requires so. Regarding this you can study swami's handbook for central
government employees rules.
regards
lalit
CS UP(E)

--- On Fri, 27/8/10, chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
wrote:

>From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Friday, 27 August, 2010, 15:34
>
>
>
>dear friends
>is there any letter which shows that we can get type three with extra pay if
>intitled type two???
>is there any letter for area discription of type two and type three.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: lalit singh
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:20:32 +0530 (IST)
>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Dear Friends
> Before wage revision TTAs below Basic of 7900 was entitled for typeII quarter
>and having 7900 or above was entitled for the type IIIrd. But after wage
>revision person having NE9 scale are entitled for typeII and NE10, NE11, E1A and
>E2A are entitled for type III quarter.
>Lalit
>cs UP(E)
>
>--- On Thu, 26/8/10, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>>To: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>>Cc: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>>Date: Thursday, 26 August, 2010, 20:15
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Actually quarter allotment is based on pay scale. Wherever i think after old
>>scale of 8500, one get entitled for type 3 quarters. And if you want type 3
>>quarter while you are entitled for type 2 then you can get that on payment of
>>extra amount per month.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
>>Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: TTABSNL service quarter
>>
>>dear friends
>>i have joint bsnl in sep 2008. since then i am trying to get service quarter.
>>but there is no any cercular which say that which type of quarter is intitled
>>for DRTTA. some says it is type two which have one room one hall and kitchen.
>>but here some gets type two which has got only one room and kitchen.
>>
>>can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one
>>type quarters.
>>
>>is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one
>>1BK.
>>
>>
>>pls clearify.
>>
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>bike
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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7a. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:58 pm ((PDT))

dear friends,
We are expecting from our Circle Executive to set the Circle Conference in
Ludhiana or Jalander SSA. It is convenient for all Punjab TTAs to attend the
Conference. We are also requesting to CHQ to intervene n send their at least
two senior member to ensure success n faith.
Devarshi Shukla
Ludhiana SSA
Mob:-9417222200

________________________________
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com; dharmen24@yahoo.co.in
Cc: SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 August, 2010 8:34:03 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punjab,
SNATTA.

DEAR, GS Dharmendra Verma,
first, I want to extend my heartiest thanks on behalf of all punjab SNATTA
members that ultimately you haveconsidered our long time pending judiscious
demand for circle confrence here in punjab and request to circle body Punjab to
act upon the suggestions made by SNATTA CHQ as well as urge of all the
(old/new) TTAs of Punjab for a open session and equal chance of reprsentation in
SNATTA.
some points of serious concern are also to be noticed and act upon;
That there should be two to three senior representative from SNATTA CHQ must
attend the confrence and to ensure the success of the confrence. I strongly urge
to YOUR GODSELF to attend the meeting and give us chance to welcome you in
punjab.
That the venue and time of the confrence must be convenient to all the TTAs as
it should be like in Ludhiana or Jalandhar and on sunday or on a holiday so that
all the tta could attend it, ie Ludhiana / Jalandhar are at the centre place n
geographicaly suitable to all .
I again request to THE CHQ to please ensure your presence and convey this to
circle body if there is any kind of problem we all ttas from Ludhiana/Punjab are
ready to support CHQ and Circle body to make the circle confrence successful n
fruitful for SNATTA.
   THANKING YOU ALL N IN HOPE FOR THE GREAT FUTURE OF ALL THE
TTAs


   REGARDS
   SHAILENDRA
SARASWAT
   EX-DS,
SNATTA, LUDHIANA

From: dharmen24 <dharmen24@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 12:39:24 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.

Dear Friends of Punjab Circle

Since last few weeks a campaign of sort has been started by certain districts in
Punjab to conduct the Circle Conference. While appreciating the concerns of all
the parties I would like to convey my resent towards the language used by the
participants. This shows that we still lack compassion and respect towards each
other.

I had conveyed my feelings to Sh. Hakam Singh, Circle Secretary, Punjab about
the Circle Conference. I have requested him to notify the Circle Conference at
the Earliest by giving ample time to all the Districts to attend. He has agreed
to conduct the Circle Conference and soon intimate CHQ about the dates.

I wish all the best to the Punjab Circle and have full faith in the abilities of
Shri. Tejinder Pal Singh, Circle Coordinator and Shri. Hakam Singh that they
will make all out efforts for the Circle Conference.

Regards

Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA

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7b. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:58 pm ((PDT))

From: dharmen24 <dharmen24@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 12:39:24 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.

Dear Friends of Punjab Circle

Regards

Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA

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8. Tinnitus: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:00 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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9. regarding 3g
Posted by: "manish raj" manish240885@yahoo.com manish240885
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:12 am ((PDT))

i have not done any 3g training but i can give you commands for resefting and to see 3g sites status i am tta in ad msc and i am monitring 3g sites

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10. 3g O&M
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:49 am ((PDT))

Hai,
Is there any one who is working in 3G section and anyone
who got 3 weeks 3G O&M training from JABALPUR. Please give me your
contact no. We have some RF issues at Imphal.

Regards,
M Shasikanta,
TTA-Mobile,
NE-II Circle.
9436023007

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11. RPR. TO CHD. M.TRANSFER
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:56 am ((PDT))

IF ANYBOBY INTRESED TO COME IN ROPAR FROM CHD. CONTACT ME.
SURAJPREET SINGH
9779112806

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Sunday, August 29, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1875

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: abhilash v

2. great thank to CHQ for CEC PUNjab
From: naveen yadav

3. RPR TO CHD. MUTUAL TRASFER
From: Suraj Preet

Messages
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1. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:47 am ((PDT))

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 10:12 PM

Dear Mr. diraj choudhary

then pls clear it ....

wht solution you and SNATTA got in 8 years...???

All we got is....
Just court case and Contempt of court case

regards
Rakesh Choudhary 9418030555
TTA (TRANS)
Dalhousie , HP

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 6:31 PM

Dear V K Anand

From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 11:56:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!

OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.

We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.

Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.

LICE should be conducted regularly.

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2. great thank to CHQ for CEC PUNjab
Posted by: "naveen yadav" yadav16_smile@rediffmail.com
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:45 am ((PDT))

i highly thankful and appriciate the CHQ members for intervening the two year long pending matter of CEC of punjab and maintain the faith of all TTA's of punjab circle in SNATTA. The CEC of punjab must be conduct in either Ludhiana or Jallandhar SSA because of both the SSA are the centre point of Punjab Circle and it is eassy and comfortable for all SSA frds to reach there and attaind the CEC punjab.i also request CHQ members to order the CS & CC of Punjab circle to conduct CEC before the AIC Goa in transparant and democratic way and at least two member of CHQ must attaind the CEC Punjab.

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3. RPR TO CHD. MUTUAL TRASFER
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:45 am ((PDT))

CONTACT SURAJPREET 9779112806

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Saturday, August 28, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1874[1 Attachment]

There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: service quarter
From: lalit singh
1b. Re: service quarter
From: Santosh J. Devadiga

2. About circle conference Of Punjab
From: kirpal singh

3. Varicose Eczema: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4a. Re: to Abhilash.....regarding promotion to JTO.
From: Sandip Solanki

5. ROPAR TO CHANDIGARH MUTUAL TRAF.
From: Suraj Preet

6a. Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
From: shailendra saraswat

7. MUTUAL TRANSFER FROM AHMEDABABD TO BARODA OR BHARUCH SSA-GUJRAT.
From: harshilshah_09

8. Special tariff plans for Ramzan and Id-ul-Fitr festival under prepai
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

Messages
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1a. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:14 am ((PDT))

Friend
You can get type III rd quarter by paying 3times of the licence fee subject to type IIIrd quarter must be vacent for more than 90 days because of absence of eligible candidate and you will vacate the quarter if any eligible candidate requires so. Regarding this you can study swami's handbook for central government employees rules.
regards
lalit
CS UP(E)

--- On Fri, 27/8/10, chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com> wrote:

From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 27 August, 2010, 15:34

dear friends
is there any letter which shows that we can get type three with extra pay if intitled type two???
is there any letter for area discription of type two and type three.
----- Original Message -----
From: lalit singh
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:20:32 +0530 (IST)
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter

Dear Friends
Before wage revision TTAs below Basic of 7900 was entitled for typeII quarter and having 7900 or above was entitled for the type IIIrd. But after wage revision person having NE9 scale are entitled for typeII and NE10, NE11, E1A and E2A are entitled for type III quarter.
Lalit
cs UP(E)

--- On Thu, 26/8/10, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
To: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 26 August, 2010, 20:15

Actually quarter allotment is based on pay scale. Wherever i think after old scale of 8500, one get entitled for type 3 quarters. And if you want type 3 quarter while you are entitled for type 2 then you can get that on payment of extra amount per month.

-----Original Message-----
From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Subject: TTABSNL service quarter

dear friends
i have joint bsnl in sep 2008. since then i am trying to get service quarter. but there is no any cercular which say that which type of quarter is intitled for DRTTA. some says it is type two which have one room one hall and kitchen. but here some gets type two which has got only one room and kitchen.

can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one type quarters.

is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one 1BK.

pls clearify.

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1b. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "Santosh J. Devadiga" sjd_4u@yahoo.com sjd_4u
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:23 am ((PDT))

Dear lalit,
Good to c u again active in the group. Pls keep it up.

regards,
Santosh J. Devadiga.
9422268970

________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 9:11:56 PM
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter

--- On Fri, 27/8/10, chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
wrote:

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2. About circle conference Of Punjab
Posted by: "kirpal singh" kirpsingh@yahoo.co.in kirpsingh
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:35 am ((PDT))

Kirpal Singh TTA
Amritsar

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3. Varicose Eczema: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:25 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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4a. Re: to Abhilash.....regarding promotion to JTO.
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:21 am ((PDT))

Absolutly right Abhilash.

People are more emotional than Practical. I was thinking that atleast we do not
heard these things from batch 2002 because they all know the politics of these
unions...
There should be a " TUITION CLASS " for all of us from Mr. Dhiraj Chaudhary and
Mr. Dharmendra Verma and we might learn how to react to a situation and how to
handle it ??
What do you say ???

I salute Mr. Dhiraj for his dedication to SNATTA in these worst condition of
Association itself. I am sure Dhiraj will be feeling pain seeing the recent
activities in GROUP.

We all were there at the time when we were alone in the indusry. No one was to
hear us. As of now people are expecting how much ???????????

Long time no talk... Missing the days......

Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440

________________________________
From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 25 August, 2010 4:15:41 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL regarding promotion to JTO.

Dear Arun,
You have written that "so finally we decided that all of us go with NFTE to help
me". Who is this 'we'? Do you think that all the DRTTAs are fools so that if
anybody use a word 'we' then they think that it is all of theirs decision? Too
silly man! Come to AIC and take a decision.

Don't say that all are selfish and thinking of themselves only. It is absolutely
right in your case and in many cases but not for every one. OK? You think that
still you are a child. When a child open its mouth somebody may feed it. GS,
NFTE assured you! In dream? What assurance? Even Prime minister can't do
anything if there is some court stay. OK, Let them feed you exam alone. We had a
signed assurance from EU. What happened to that assurance? BSNLEU didn't keep
their promise. That doesn't mean NFTE or FNTO will do everything for us. All the
unions want us as their members for vote and subscription. But in return they
will give nothing. As long as we are not strengthened by ourselves nobody can
save us.
Dear moderator, Criticisms are welcome. But don't approve any mail against
SNATTA since this platform is meant for strengthening SNATTA.

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

--- On Mon, 23/8/10, arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

>From: arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: TTABSNL regarding promotion to JTO.
>To: "TTA GROUP" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>Cc: "snatta chq" <snattachq@gmail.com>
>Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 2:44 PM
>
>
>
>After suffering since eight years no SNATTA or BSNLEU help us and fight for us
>all are thinking only yourself ,some thinking for completing your seven year
>service to appear in examination,some thinking to compleate your five year of
>service and then they change the RR.some wants if we getting B.E degree then why
>not my post upgraded.all are thinking yourself.so finally we decided that all of
>us go with NFTE to help me < GS NFTE assured us . let us try to go with NFTE if
>BSNLEU no do any more for us.
>
> ARUN KUMAR SINGH
>
> TTA ( Transmission)
>
>

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5. ROPAR TO CHANDIGARH MUTUAL TRAF.
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:21 am ((PDT))

want a person who is intrested in mutual trasfer from chandigarh to ropar SSA.
contact
Suraj- 9779112806

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6a. Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:22 am ((PDT))

DEAR, GS Dharmendra Verma,
first, I want to extend my heartiest thanks on behalf of all punjab SNATTA
members that ultimately you haveconsidered our long time pending judiscious
demand for circle confrence here in punjab and request to circle body Punjab to
act upon the suggestions made by SNATTA CHQ as well as urge of all the
(old/new) TTAs of Punjab for a open session and equal chance of reprsentation in
SNATTA.
some points of serious concern are also to be noticed and act upon;
That there should be two to three senior representative from SNATTA CHQ must
attend the confrence and to ensure the success of the confrence. I strongly urge
to YOUR GODSELF to attend the meeting and give us chance to welcome you in
punjab.
That the venue and time of the confrence must be convenient to all the TTAs as
it should be like in Ludhiana or Jalandhar and on sunday or on a holiday so that
all the tta could attend it, ie Ludhiana / Jalandhar are at the centre place n
geographicaly suitable to all .
I again request to THE CHQ to please ensure your presence and convey this to
circle body if there is any kind of problem we all ttas from Ludhiana/Punjab are
ready to support CHQ and Circle body to make the circle confrence successful n
fruitful for SNATTA.
THANKING YOU ALL N IN HOPE FOR THE GREAT FUTURE OF ALL THE
TTAs

REGARDS
SHAILENDRA
SARASWAT
EX-DS,
SNATTA, LUDHIANA

From: dharmen24 <dharmen24@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 12:39:24 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.

Dear Friends of Punjab Circle

Regards

Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA

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7. MUTUAL TRANSFER FROM AHMEDABABD TO BARODA OR BHARUCH SSA-GUJRAT.
Posted by: "harshilshah_09" harshilshah_09@yahoo.co.in harshilshah_09
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:22 am ((PDT))

Hi friends,

i am working in ahmedabad ssa & i need a mutual transfer form ahmedabad to bharuch or baroda, so if anybody intrested. pl contact me,

E-mail:-harshilshah01@gmail.com
mob:-9429202500.

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8. Special tariff plans for Ramzan and Id-ul-Fitr festival under prepai
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:23 am ((PDT))

On the occasion of holy Ramzan & Id-ul-Fitr festival, as a goodwill gesture, it has been decided by BSNL to offer special tariff plans under 2G & 3G prepaid mobile services. STV 25 & RCV 786 has been launched. See attachment foe detail.
: Sudesh

1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1245948989/item/list

Ramzan festival offer.pdf

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Friday, August 27, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1873[1 Attachment]

There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Cerebro Vascular Disease: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

2. final request to all ssa from bihar circle for AIC,GOA.
From: kumar bhupendra

3. Tariff for EVDO prepaid plan
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

4a. jto recruitment
From: pragnesh gondaliya
4b. Re: jto recruitment
From: bsnl_chd

5a. NEED MUTUAL TRANSFER
From: geetha dharmaraj

6. 3G Training
From: shasikanta mutum

7a. Mutual Transfer From Chennai to Bangalore
From: nalini vasu
7b. Mutual Transfer From Chennai to Bangalore
From: nalini vasu

8a. Re: service quarter
From: Er. Munish Bhatheja
8b. Re: service quarter
From: lalit singh
8c. Re: service quarter
From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com

9. Who will fix BSNL?
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

10. REGARDING IRRESPONSIBLE WORKING OF CS PUNJAB
From: Sanjeeb Behera

11. Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
From: dharmen24

12. INDIA TELECOM 2010
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

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1. Cerebro Vascular Disease: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:45 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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2. final request to all ssa from bihar circle for AIC,GOA.
Posted by: "kumar bhupendra" kmr_bhupendra@yahoo.co.in kmr_bhupendra
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:26 am ((PDT))

dear all,
once again i cordially request to all ssa of bihar circle to finalised deligate name & finally deposite deligate fee to circle treasurer
A/C,Mr.manoj sah till 29/08/2010.After this circle will not responsible for your accomodation for AIC,GOA.I request all of you to maximum no of tta friends will come forward to take part in AIC,GOA. It is your conference & you should come forward & give your valuable suggestions for your future prospect. So, i appeal once again all of you to come forward for AIC,GOA.

At this time final feature from bihar circle is as follows-

sl.no. ssa name nos.of delegates
1. patna 06
2. katihar 04
3. gaya 02
4. ara 01
5. munger 01
6. samastipur 01
7. bhagalpur 01

thank you.

bhupendra kumar
cc,bihar SNATTA.
9431851900

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3. Tariff for EVDO prepaid plan
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:26 am ((PDT))

Tariff for EVDO prepaid plan under CDMA services has been attached herewith. Please go through & provide wide publicity at your own level.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg) Amritsar.

1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1108226714/item/list

EVDO

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4a. jto recruitment
Posted by: "pragnesh gondaliya" pragneshgondaliya@yahoo.co.in pragneshgondaliya
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:27 am ((PDT))

hi friends,

kerala circle issue backlog jto recrruitment, see attachment link

http://www.freshersworld.com/jobs/detail/2010/08/25/junior-telecom-officers-telecom-electrical

Regards,
Pragnesh Gondaliya
BSNL, Tharad,
Palanpur – ssa,
Gujarat.
09427802151

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4b. Re: jto recruitment
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:15 am ((PDT))

hi dear,
pls clarify key points while posting such messages.

the above recruitment is only for Persons with Disabilities (PWD).

regards,
bandhan preet singh

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> Â
> Â
> hi friends,
> Â
> kerala circle issue backlog jto recrruitment, see attachment link
> Â
> Â
> http://www.freshersworld.com/jobs/detail/2010/08/25/junior-telecom-officers-telecom-electrical
> Â
> Regards,
> Pragnesh Gondaliya
> BSNL, Tharad,
> Palanpur â€" ssa,
> Gujarat.
> 09427802151
> Â
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5a. NEED MUTUAL TRANSFER
Posted by: "geetha dharmaraj" dg_vass85@yahoo.com dg_vass85
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:29 am ((PDT))

--- On Fri, 8/20/10, geetha dharmaraj <dg_vass85@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Friends,
I'm in Indoor section,Thanjavur SSA,Tamilnadu circle. My spouse working in Chennai. I need mutual transfer to chennai circle. If anybody looking for mutual kindly contact me.

contact no:9486109196
E-mail: dg_vass85@yahoo.com

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6. 3G Training
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:29 am ((PDT))

Hai,
Is there any one who is working in 3G section and anyone who got 3 weeks 3G O&M training from JABALPUR. Please give me your contact no.

Regards,
M Shasikanta,
TTA-Mobile,
NE-II Circle.
9436023007

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7a. Mutual Transfer From Chennai to Bangalore
Posted by: "nalini vasu" vim_anush@yahoo.co.in vim_anush
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:30 am ((PDT))

Hi Friends,
I am working in Chennai Telephones and i want to get Transfer to Bangalore.
Is anybody interested to to go to Chennai.
Pls contact me.
Nalini

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7b. Mutual Transfer From Chennai to Bangalore
Posted by: "nalini vasu" vim_anush@yahoo.co.in vim_anush
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:33 am ((PDT))

Hi Friends,
I am working in Chennai Telephones and i want to get Transfer to Bangalore.
Is anybody interested to to go to Chennai.
Pls contact me.
Nalini

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8a. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "Er. Munish Bhatheja" getmoni2001@yahoo.com bhatheja_munish
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:30 am ((PDT))

-----Original Message-----
From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Subject: TTABSNL service quarter

can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one type quarters.

is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one 1BK.

pls clearify.

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8b. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:14 pm ((PDT))

--- On Thu, 26/8/10, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

-----Original Message-----

From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com

Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

Subject: TTABSNL service quarter

dear friends

i have joint bsnl in sep 2008. since then i am trying to get service quarter. but there is no any cercular which say that which type of quarter is intitled for DRTTA. some says it is type two which have one room one hall and kitchen. but here some gets type two which has got only one room and kitchen.

can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one type quarters.

is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one 1BK.

pls clearify.

Click for exclusive coverage on the New Bajaj Pulsar 220 the fastest Indian bike

http://www.zigwheels.com/Features/Bajaj-Pulsar-220-DTSi-Special-Coverage/Pulsar_20090623-1-1

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8c. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "chandan101204@indiatimes.com" chandan101204@indiatimes.com chandrakesh1
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:39 am ((PDT))

--- On Thu, 26/8/10, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Subject: TTABSNL service quarter

can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one type quarters.

is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one 1BK.

pls clearify.

--
Click for exclusive coverage on the New Bajaj Pulsar 220 the fastest Indian bike
http://www.zigwheels.com/Features/Bajaj-Pulsar-220-DTSi-Special-Coverage/Pulsar_20090623-1-1

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9. Who will fix BSNL?
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:35 am ((PDT))

*Who will fix BSNL?
**Voice & Data Heena Jhingan Thursday, August 05, 2010*

The impending change of guard at the public sector operator BSNL, definitely
needs to bring in mega makeovers else little will change in the way the
service provider has been performing.

Sam Pitroda, the 'Transformer' has submitted his fifteen point report to the
department of telecommunications, prescribing remedial strategies for the
ailing operator. A search and selection team has been constituted by the
Prime Minister's Office to appoint a new chairman soon after the present CMD
Kuldeep Goyal retires. VOICE&DATA spoke to regulatory experts, analysts,
financial consultants and industry veterans to find out their views on what
will turn the table around for BSNL. Our industry gurus put together a
'things to do list' for BSNL and the new leader; and they are not very
different for what has already been communicated to the DoT.

*The Prescription*
The telecom mammoth has been crippled by multiple ailments and needs
solutions to all if not in a go, then may be some more urgently. BSNL cannot
be turned in to a one man army overnight, with about 3 lakh soldiers (read
employees) unified by a strong union. If the union decides to be
non-cooperative, the entire system can collapse. An example of their
strength can be gauged from the fact that the Joint Action Committee (JAC),
represented by 3 lakh executives and non-executives of the company is likely
to call for a three-day sit-out strike from September 21 this year to
register their protest in case the government fails to resolve the issue of
refunding BSNL's 3G fee within a reasonable timeframe. There are several
concerns over the company's current financials, profitability, etc.

*Policy-the Dikat
*A big bolster in BSNL's growth path is its internal deficiency born out of
a distorted policy system. The Comptroller & Auditor General (CAG) report
(No PA 27 of 2009-10) on BSNL's performance opened the company's can of
worms. CAG pointed out systemic deficiencies in planning, procurement of
equipment and stores, quality of telephone services, and execution and
monitoring of long distance projects. It also found compliance deficiencies,
which undermined the overall performance.

Some blunders that BSNL officials have made over the years to push BSNL
where it has reached today-include making unrealistic forecasts for the new
projects that led to the projects being stuck, they have failed in making
the correct estimates of demand of equipments, delays in procurement-have
been a well-known trouble maker for BSNL.

All the shortcomings-audit noticed compliance deficiencies in telecom
project circles, its divisions and sub-divisions, such as violation of
corporate office instructions, delegation of financial powers and provisions
of procurement manual-undermined the overall performance of the telecom
project circles and the company. The company has failed to excercise control
on budgets. *The Proven Change Makers* The telecom industry has seen great
harbingers of change that have proved their managerial skills in taking the
company to greater heights.

Arun Sarin, former chief executive of Vodafone Group Plc, credited to have
organized the single largest deal in the Indian telecom industry by helping
his group acquire majority stake in the erstwhile Hutch-Essar, is said to be
one of the choices of the government to head BSNL. Under his leadership
Vodafone developed and implemented a new strategy to become a total
communications company.

Ben Verwaayen, known as the man who turned the loss making British Telecom
around took over as CEO of Alcatel-Lucent, face the challenge of improving
the company's profitability. During Verwaayen's time as head of BT, profit
almost doubled, from 995 mn pounds in 2002, the year he took over, to 1.74
bn pounds in 2008.

He cut about 5,000 jobs a year at London-based BT to counter falling sales
from land-line voice calls and increased competition in broadband services.

At Alcatel-Lucent he started with increased focus on adding value and
getting more transparent on how the company made decisions. It narrowed
focus on faster execution of the commitments being made to customers. His
efforts were directed at repairing the company's profitability.

His capabilities at Alcatel-Lucent are at test. But the CEO can already see
a full year profit for next year. �2011 will be mission accomplished,� he is
reported to have claimed.

*Scrap Bin*
The tender process at BSNL was crippling too. Nokia Siemens Networks dragged
the company to the court challenging its disqualification from the tender
for 93 mn lines, the world's largest contract for telecom equipments. BSNL's
expansion plans got a serious blow from the litigation, and new private
players were growing, worsening the situation for the PSU. Handicapped by
equipment shortage, the company was unable to add new subscribers resulting
in a loss of market share.

Stung by the crisis, BSNL changed its equipment procurement policy and
decided to do as the competition like Bharti Airtel and Vodafone did. It
would opt for a managed capacity system under which the services are
outsourced to a vendor who then takes care of all the procurement needs;
however the government stepped in saying that outsourcing network
maintenance to global players could put national security under threat.

Lack of transparency in the company's bidding process to select its
franchise partners for WiMax got a major setback as five of the twenty
bidders turned out to be fake. The Joint Forum of BSNL Associations,
suspected a senior officials' role here. Thus, another tender went to the
scrap bin.

According to CAG's report of the material management and planning wings of
headquarters, during 2003-04 to 2007-08, requirements for 5,224 pieces of
equipment of various categories were placed and finalized. However, only
3,653 pieces of equipment were approved and only 1,603 were actually
procured during 2003-08. Barely 31% of the equipment in demand was procured
by the headquarters. These delayed procurements resulted in non-completion
of sixty-six projects (out of 153 projects selected by audit).

The Great Fall
BSNL had been the largest telecom operator till 2008, when Airtel steered
ahead. By mid 2008, Bharti was adding about 2.5 mn customers each month
while BSNL's subscriber base was inching up by 6 lakh each month. The
landline connections were fast picking up for Bharti, though they
constituted just a meagre 3% of its subscribers. For BSNL the landline
subscribers constituted slightly less than half. Then Bharti Airtel had over
69 mn subscribers in June, and was growing at an average of 3% while BSNL,
was growing at less than 1%, adding around 3 lakh subscribers each month.
Airtel has grown manifolds that it can now dare to look at acquisitions
beyond Indian soil and now has operation in about eighteen countries across
Asia and Africa. *To Do List * *Financing, Merger & Acquisition / IPO *

- Strategic sale of 30% stake in the PSU as per the suggestions of Sam
Pitroda panel appointed by the Prime Minister would help BSNL to raise its
capital to address the other necessary areas of service
- Revise MTNL merger plan
- Infrastructure sharing and unlocking the value of its infrastructure
assets as successfully done by other operators

*Capital Fund Increase by Asset Optimization *

- Sale or leasing out of excess network infrastructure like signal
towers, transmission links, etc
- Sale or lease of real estate assets

*Network Expansion and Optimization *

- Network expansion: release of the contracts for network expansion
- Rejuvenation of network elements to support new end technologies
- Centralized network architecture to have one stop monitoring
- Capitalize on the first mover advantage on 3G

Upgrade BTSs to facilitate geographical spread and utility of 3G services.
Currently, the main rationale for lower subscriber numbers (9,000 to 10,000
subscribers) is the inability of the existing BTS to offer 3G services
effectively

*Organizational Restructuring *

- Restructuring and optimization of employee hierarchy
- Move to shared center concept gradually to control expenses
- Retirement of age-old employees through voluntary retirement scheme
- Induction of young and experienced professionals in sales, technology,
customer service and Financials from

*Private Institutions and Firms *

- Enhance speed to market and decision making by redefining of employee
empowerment and process/policies to

*Market Share Increase and Product Portfolio *

- Regaining its lost market share through aggressive marketing, sales
promotions, innovative products supported by adequate network capacity
- Phasing out of new generation services like m-commerce, IPTV, triple
play, WiMax, etc
- Increasing the penetration in rural areas

*Outsourcing *

- Outsourcing of network handling to global organizations
- Outsourcing of customer acquisition, marketing and sales services

*Inter-operator Relations *

- To ease out inter-operator relations
- To share the infrastructure with flexible rules and lesser costs, this
would encourage other players to freely share the network which leads to
revenue enhancement

*The Panacea*
The Indian telecom industry sees the last ray of hope for the wilting
operator in empowering the CMD with more powers instead of employing a putty
in the hands of the ministry. Even the brightest ideas collapse if not given
freedom to execute, and perhaps this has been one of the key reasons why
nothing has worked for the company.

�Hiring a dynamic manager may not help the company till the person in chair
has the powers to create his/her own team that can execute the plans. A
disconnect between the leader and his subordinates will further worsen the
scenario thus, the new CMD should have the powers to hire his/her team
independently,� says Satyen Gupta, chief regulatory officer, British
Telecom.

Kunaj Bajaj, director, India, Analysys Mason, agrees that more independence
from ministry/government is critical for making a faster decision making
process. This will help BSNL in taking prompt decisions. �However,
independence does not necessarily means privatization and selling off
strategic stakes, in fact it could be arming the CMD to make independent
decisions while still keeping a control,� Bajaj says.

Sandeep Gupta, director, Protiviti Consulting sees bigger challenges for the
new head of the company who will have to tackle both existing and upcoming
competition. �There are certain old legacy issues to resolve along with
restructuring the organization to enable it to transform itself for the
future growth,� he says.

DoT has not cleared whether it will be able to offer market linked salary to
the suitor for the top post. The salary will be fixed on the basis of
Schedule-A PSUs, along with the performance related pay and other facilities
like free accommodation and a car.

The package comes to about Rs 45 lakh per annum with an entry level basic
pay of Rs 80,000. The scale ranges up to Rs 1,25,000. Industry veterans feel
it will be difficult to convince a talent from the corporate world work
under restrictions and most important factor will be the fact that pressure
comes at what price.

The DoT plans to appoint the new managing director for a fixed tenure of
three years, extendable by another three years, based on performance
evaluation by an external group. However, the transformation will be a tough
task. �It will be a long term job as a leader will require at least five
years to show some positive results,� says Bajaj.

A change that is much-needed, and will face strong opposition is pruning
about one lakh excess employees. A strong union of employees may not be
cooperative and add to the woes of the company which at present is the third
biggest employer in the country and spends about 50% of its revenues on
employee salaries. Over 60,000 employees are scheduled to retire in five
years and the board plans to sign Rs 4,348 crore wage agreement with staff.
The mammoth's revenue per employee or productivity is one of the lowest in
the industry. In FY 2009-10 Airtel stood at Rs 21 mn per employee, RCom
earned about Rs 6.7 mn per employee.

Functional separation plays a critical role in the growth of an operator
like BSNL. It is time BSNL separates its retail and wholesale businesses
into seperate divisions and sets up a stringent target for each one. This
will unlock the wholesale business opportunity for BSNL which is currently
under-utilized. While all private operators have well differentiated their
retail and wholesale businesses, BSNL's assets to handle wholesale traffic
has been under exploited.

Infusing new ideas through processes for services product planning and
go-to-market strategy by hiring experienced management team from the private
sector can indisputably make a difference to what the consumers want.

The average age of a BSNL employee is thirty-five to forty years, thus there
is a void of young talent. While the employees of private operators are much
younger. Thus, to be able to market itself in the era of hyper competition,
BSNL will have to the match standards of the private players.

The government will have to give autonomy. In the past political lobbies
have affected the telecommunications industry. Not to forget, 45 mn mobile
lines order that was sought by the former IT and telecom minister Dayanidhi
Maran, was scrapped immediately after A Raja replaced Dayanidhi as the
minister. The PMO's decision to set up a selection committee is only a small
way in the direction of BSNL's long journey.

Heena Jhingan

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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10. REGARDING IRRESPONSIBLE WORKING OF CS PUNJAB
Posted by: "Sanjeeb Behera" sanjeebbehera77@yahoo.com sanjeebbehera77
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:00 am ((PDT))

Dear friends
I am watching yahho group from some days filled with blaming
mails.Very rough language is being used. I have cocluded one person who is
responsible for this is CS Punjab mr hakam singh
The reasons are as follows :-
1. Did not reply to appeal of district body jallandhar.
2. Did not inform about CEC Punjab on dated 08-08-2010 within time.
3. Did not call any urgent meeting to settle the issue regarding CEC Punjab.

Moreover the demand of circle conference is of my SSA in DEC meeting & DP
Balwinder singh represents our district views.

CS Punjab mr hakam singh have to apologise from SSA jallandhar alongwith mr
Balwinder singh DP by taking moral responsibility to this blaming drama

I request CHQ to intefere & conduct circle conference

Sanjeev kumar
TTA Jallandhar

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11. Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
Posted by: "dharmen24" dharmen24@yahoo.co.in dharmen24
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:10 am ((PDT))

Dear Friends of Punjab Circle

Since last few weeks a campaign of sort has been started by certain districts in Punjab to conduct the Circle Conference. While appreciating the concerns of all the parties I would like to convey my resent towards the language used by the participants. This shows that we still lack compassion and respect towards each other.

I had conveyed my feelings to Sh. Hakam Singh, Circle Secretary, Punjab about the Circle Conference. I have requested him to notify the Circle Conference at the Earliest by giving ample time to all the Districts to attend. He has agreed to conduct the Circle Conference and soon intimate CHQ about the dates.

I wish all the best to the Punjab Circle and have full faith in the abilities of Shri. Tejinder Pal Singh, Circle Coordinator and Shri. Hakam Singh that they will make all out efforts for the Circle Conference.

Regards

Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA

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12. INDIA TELECOM 2010
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:35 am ((PDT))

INDIA TELECOM 2010 is being organized by FICCI at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi from 09-11 Dec. 2010. For moredetail log on http://www.indiatelecom.org/
: Sudesh
TTA (Amritsar)

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