Tuesday, July 27, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1836

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. must read and think about this
From: rakesh bhatt
1b. Re: must read and think about this
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

2a. stop blaming others
From: sunnam k
2b. Re: stop blaming others
From: JASVIR JASSAL
2c. Re: stop blaming others
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH

3a. reduction to 5 year
From: shasikanta mutum
3b. Re: reduction to 5 year
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4a. Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: surinder mittal
4b. Re: Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
4c. Re: Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: JASVIR JASSAL

5a. Re: keep it up
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
5b. Re: keep it up
From: rkm_delhi25
5c. Re: keep it up
From: surinder mittal
5d. Re: keep it up
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
5e. Re: keep it up
From: surinder mittal

6a. Re: Bihar Circle Conference
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
6b. Re: Bihar Circle Conference
From: shahulhameed noorulameen

7a. Operation Injustice
From: shahulhameed noorulameen
7b. Re: Operation Injustice
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
7c. Re: Operation Injustice
From: Gola Singh

8a. Re: Fw: designation change (Assistant Engineer (Telecom))
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9a. Regarding personal pay
From: jai karthik
9b. Re: Regarding personal pay
From: VENKATESAN RAD

10. unable to get wireless connection with type II modem.
From: haricharan12

11. (no subject)
From: manish sahu


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1a. must read and think about this
Posted by: "rakesh bhatt" rbhatt8@yahoo.com rbhatt8
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:10 am ((PDT))

HI FRIENDS

                ALL OF YOU DOING GOD WORK AS A
TTA BUT YOU ARE ALL NOT TAKING CARE OF SOME LOGICAL POINT WHICH IS ALSO BENIFITED
TO TTA CADRE.

WHY WE ARE NOT FITING FOR TTA CADRE UPGRADATION

REGARDING THIS I HAVE SOME POINT.

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ISSUE THE CALENDER FOR
EXAM. ON REGULAR BASIS

2.  
QULIFICATION SHULD
NOT BE RELIXED IN ANY CASE.

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THERE IS NO WAY TO HAVING TWO QUATA FOR 15% AND 35%.

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 BOTH QUATA BE MURGED AND THEN CONDUCT THE
EXAM.

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ONLY MARK OF TEST BE
THE CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS IN EXAM NOT CADRE.

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IF IT MAY BE DONE
SURILY WE GET BENIFITED IN COMING EXAM. BECAUSE IN PAST IT IS HAPPEN THAT
MERIUT GOES DOWN FOR 15% QUATA UPTO ZERO MARK AND Sr TOA BECOME JTOs AND TTA
WHO GET 38% MARKS ARE FAILD IN PRIVIOUS EXAM.

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UPTO WHICH YEAR
VACENCY WE ARE IGLEGIABLE IF IT IS NOT CLEAR A Sr TOA GET VACENCY OF 1999 OR
BAFORE IF VACENCY EXIT BY GETTING 60 OR LESS MARKS BUT A TTA GET VACENCY OF
2002 AFTER GETTING 120 OR ABOVE MARK.

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IN ANY ORGANIGATION
MIN DIPLOMA QULN NOT RETIRE AT DIPLOMA POST WHAT WILL BE IN OUR CASE IF ANY ONE
FAILED IN THE EXAM OR DUE TO ANY RESION NOT APPER IN THE EXAM IT MAY BE ANY ONE
FROM US.

I HAVE MANY POINT BUT I HOPE MODRATOR NOT LIKE
THESE POINTS AND STOP MY MIAL FOR GROUPS. THANKING YOU.   

 

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1b. Re: must read and think about this
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:31 am ((PDT))

hi rakesh,

you have made very good points.

Qualification must not be relaxed. If someone going to be JTO then technical
know-how is must which a diploma holder already has.


regards,
bandhan preet singh


On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, rakesh bhatt <rbhatt8@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> HI FRIENDS ALL OF YOU DOING GOD WORK AS A TTA BUT YOU ARE
> ALL NOT TAKING CARE OF SOME LOGICAL POINT WHICH IS ALSO BENIFITED TO TTA
> CADRE.
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> WHY WE ARE NOT FITING FOR TTA CADRE UPGRADATION
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> 1. ISSUE THE CALENDER FOR EXAM. ON REGULAR BASIS 2. QULIFICATION SHULD
> NOT BE RELIXED IN ANY CASE. 3. THERE IS NO WAY TO HAVING TWO QUATA FOR
> 15% AND 35%. 4. BOTH QUATA BE MURGED AND THEN CONDUCT THE EXAM. 5. ONLY
> MARK OF TEST BE THE CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS IN EXAM NOT CADRE. 6. IF IT MAY
> BE DONE SURILY WE GET BENIFITED IN COMING EXAM. BECAUSE IN PAST IT IS HAPPEN
> THAT MERIUT GOES DOWN FOR 15% QUATA UPTO ZERO MARK AND Sr TOA BECOME JTOs
> AND TTA WHO GET 38% MARKS ARE FAILD IN PRIVIOUS EXAM. 7. UPTO WHICH YEAR
> VACENCY WE ARE IGLEGIABLE IF IT IS NOT CLEAR A Sr TOA GET VACENCY OF 1999 OR
> BAFORE IF VACENCY EXIT BY GETTING 60 OR LESS MARKS BUT A TTA GET VACENCY OF
> 2002 AFTER GETTING 120 OR ABOVE MARK. 8. IN ANY ORGANIGATION MIN DIPLOMA
> QULN NOT RETIRE AT DIPLOMA POST WHAT WILL BE IN OUR CASE IF ANY ONE FAILED
> IN THE EXAM OR DUE TO ANY RESION NOT APPER IN THE EXAM IT MAY BE ANY ONE
> FROM US. I HAVE MANY POINT BUT I HOPE MODRATOR NOT LIKE THESE POINTS AND
> STOP MY MIAL FOR GROUPS. THANKING YOU.
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regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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2a. stop blaming others
Posted by: "sunnam k" seenu2bsnl@yahoo.com seenu2bsnl
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:12 am ((PDT))

hello friend prithpal
 
in my view yes i agree with u that ur neglected or cheated or u may give  any word to that
u r very much dissappointed
but what r ur duties is ur a excutive person to attend the meetings with jto
or maintaining 300 some exchanges on single hand
when u r working happily without any complications/selfish
why r u raising this pointing every time that ur unjustifed by ur dgm or other supeirors
first u know that ur a tta
and do only tta duties
dont think that ur an excutive and ur the only person working sleflesly
for bsnl
 boss has a choice that he can use and command his subordinatates according to his will
at that time u have to tell that
im facing very much workpressure please arrange some other persons
and im not able to lookafter all these works
instead of that u done extra work which is not alloted to tta cadre by department
and ur blaming that snatta is not giving sapport
first resign for ur post as ds snatta for ur ssa
then do only ur work
dont make other people around u and ur superiors as lazy fellows
we r all taking salary from dept so all has to work
it is very strange to here that 300 exchanges and mbms etc r maintain only by u
that we have to belive
dont tell kakabul stories
please leave this topic
dont waste our SNATTAIANS time and urs also
 
thanks
by
kumar.s.reddy
ap circle
9440981888
 
 
 
 


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2b. Re: stop blaming others
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:36 am ((PDT))

 
sunnam k ,
 
 
                 sir if you not have something for pritpal singh to favour his cause , then it is my request to you please DONT USE THIS TYPE OF RUDE WORDS FOR HIM.He is not fighting for any award BUT HE IS FIGHTING FOR RESPECT OF HARD WORK DONE BY A TTA.
 
                          Sir he is not wasting a time of any body BUT again work hard to expose injustice to hard work by a tta.
                         Sir it seems that you are wasting a time try to discouraged the PRITPAL SINGH TO FIGHT THIS INJUSTICE, HE IS JUST DEMANDING A HELP FROM YOU & CHQ LEADRES.
 
                            so please dont discourage pritpal singh by using words like words of enemy.
 
 
 
Jasvir jassal,
vice - president-snatta-pb,
9417434555.


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, sunnam k <seenu2bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: sunnam k <seenu2bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL stop blaming others
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 5:34 AM


 


hello friend prithpal
 
in my view yes i agree with u that ur neglected or cheated or u may give  any word to that
u r very much dissappointed
but what r ur duties is ur a excutive person to attend the meetings with jto
or maintaining 300 some exchanges on single hand
when u r working happily without any complications/ selfish
why r u raising this pointing every time that ur unjustifed by ur dgm or other supeirors
first u know that ur a tta
and do only tta duties
dont think that ur an excutive and ur the only person working sleflesly
for bsnl
 boss has a choice that he can use and command his subordinatates according to his will
at that time u have to tell that
im facing very much workpressure please arrange some other persons
and im not able to lookafter all these works
instead of that u done extra work which is not alloted to tta cadre by department
and ur blaming that snatta is not giving sapport
first resign for ur post as ds snatta for ur ssa
then do only ur work
dont make other people around u and ur superiors as lazy fellows
we r all taking salary from dept so all has to work
it is very strange to here that 300 exchanges and mbms etc r maintain only by u
that we have to belive
dont tell kakabul stories
please leave this topic
dont waste our SNATTAIANS time and urs also
 
thanks
by
kumar.s.reddy
ap circle
9440981888
 
 
 
 

Messages in this topic (3)
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2c. Re: stop blaming others
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:05 am ((PDT))

Mr reddy
 
Read carefully before writing anything i have written 300 villages not exchanges. For winning the heart of management one door is association /union and second one is hard work.Only DGM played a trick with me because my area falls in different area of DGM. my dear friend if u want to do extra-ordinary then we have to choose extraordinary works. Have u know about SALES TEAM I am working at that time as lonely sales memeber in 300 villages when DE offered me a vehicle and other infrastrure then why cant i demand for JTO and SDE. According to Instruction of during Roadshows Tm and SDE of that area with me then why i demand one more SDE and JTO for sitting IDLE In office when i was in the field
If i demanded that u want then the name of SDE/JTO will be declared for award who will sit in AC Rooms. this is the main reason that we lagging behind.
 
MY DEAR FRIEND ITS NOT A STORY ITS A HARD WORK. but u cant understand it only LIONS OF BSNL understand it


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, JASVIR JASSAL <jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: JASVIR JASSAL <jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL stop blaming others
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 7:54 PM


 


 
sunnam k ,
 
 
                 sir if you not have something for pritpal singh to favour his cause , then it is my request to you please DONT USE THIS TYPE OF RUDE WORDS FOR HIM.He is not fighting for any award BUT HE IS FIGHTING FOR RESPECT OF HARD WORK DONE BY A TTA.
 
                          Sir he is not wasting a time of any body BUT again work hard to expose injustice to hard work by a tta.
                         Sir it seems that you are wasting a time try to discouraged the PRITPAL SINGH TO FIGHT THIS INJUSTICE, HE IS JUST DEMANDING A HELP FROM YOU & CHQ LEADRES.
 
                            so please dont discourage pritpal singh by using words like words of enemy.
 
 
 
Jasvir jassal,
vice - president-snatta- pb,
9417434555.


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, sunnam k <seenu2bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: sunnam k <seenu2bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: TTABSNL stop blaming others
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 5:34 AM


 


hello friend prithpal
 
in my view yes i agree with u that ur neglected or cheated or u may give  any word to that
u r very much dissappointed
but what r ur duties is ur a excutive person to attend the meetings with jto
or maintaining 300 some exchanges on single hand
when u r working happily without any complications/ selfish
why r u raising this pointing every time that ur unjustifed by ur dgm or other supeirors
first u know that ur a tta
and do only tta duties
dont think that ur an excutive and ur the only person working sleflesly
for bsnl
 boss has a choice that he can use and command his subordinatates according to his will
at that time u have to tell that
im facing very much workpressure please arrange some other persons
and im not able to lookafter all these works
instead of that u done extra work which is not alloted to tta cadre by department
and ur blaming that snatta is not giving sapport
first resign for ur post as ds snatta for ur ssa
then do only ur work
dont make other people around u and ur superiors as lazy fellows
we r all taking salary from dept so all has to work
it is very strange to here that 300 exchanges and mbms etc r maintain only by u
that we have to belive
dont tell kakabul stories
please leave this topic
dont waste our SNATTAIANS time and urs also
 
thanks
by
kumar.s.reddy
ap circle
9440981888
 
 
 
 


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3a. reduction to 5 year
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:14 am ((PDT))


Hai,
      If the officiating JTOs are challenging against the reduction of 10 to 7 years, then why cant we fight to revert to the old JTO recruitment rule, ie to 5 years.
 
 
Shasikanta,
TTA MSC,
NE-II Circle, Manipur,
9436023007

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3b. Re: reduction to 5 year
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:30 am ((PDT))

hi.

great thought..!!


anybody elaborate the views expressed.

regards
Bandhan

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM, shasikanta mutum <shasi_mutum@yahoo.com>wrote:

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regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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4a. Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:15 am ((PDT))

Dear Preet, Bandhan and other friends....

Its not a matter of the person's personal gratitude, but its the matter related entirely to the technical minds like us. We got the education so that our minds become too sharper that No body can make us fools in ours eyes. The BSNL Mgmt had did this for sure and we wont allow this for them to have a happy sleep over the ssue and matter.

Mr Preetpal, No matter what episode the local Mgmt played is just a foul play on theirs level. some of them may be feeling repentine over the matter, but we have not to acknowledge them that the TRAIN HAD MISSED. What Bandhan had worried is also of the concern matter becouse he felt that somewhere our leadership at CHQ level is playing at underestimate level. i know when i raised the matter for the designation change and what Mr. Abhilash had
said the "he wanna see me to giving the replies of the RTIs" and till today i am egerly waiting for his comments over the replied i had given in mine returning mail. I m sure that person have nothing to say as its cant be tolerable to accept the officer's responsibilities at same financial wallet. Mr Preetpal have never demanded remenuration but one common thing is that we need (obviously every body needs..) the social recognition for the Hard work which our friends are doing...

Mr Preet, The views over the comments from Mr Bandhan is my just observation and there is nothing personal. Perheps you remember the time when i made u the call for the updated letter for the nominations reminder. there is a lot in that letter to understand, but i was bit surprised that u guys put a self decorated tag over that letter by saying that this is for only circle or the BSNL CO. Your local body must pressurise the circle with the help of that letter...but the letter was taken as just anyway.....

Now, the Most important Point :
U Just repersent your case politely to the concerned officers and if they are not getting it acknowledge, u can pull them all under the Hon'ble Indian Constitutional Act "The Indian Lok Pal Act" for Misusing their powers and see the result.. These all guys are forgetting one thing that they are the ITS officers which are under DoT and Ministry of Communication. Once they are served the show cause notice under the mentined Act, they will find no roof to hide themselves. The Indian Constitution is very strong, but these people are taking the service matters like otherwise.


They should know one thing "Agar kissiee TTA ke kissi din sarak gayee na to unka fuse udd jayega...."


Anyway....i have given u the direction, To move or Not to Move depends entirely on you.....


Comments, Criticism and Suggestions welcomed as always....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation injustice
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:25 AM

 





Hiii Bandhan

All cases are important JTO LICE is more important but discouragement of members can be tolerated at any stage. IF PM AND PRESIDENT OF INDIA and Others leaders all will busy in only one issue then who will save our country will they invite Pakistan to attack on INDIA we all are busy.

WITH REGARDS Er.PRITPAL SINGH DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR PUNJAB 09417073556 preet

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation injustice

> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

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> PRITPALYESTERDAY THE THE 3RD CIRCLE CONFERENCE OF

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> SINGH

> DISTT PRESIDENT

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> Office dates are already lapsed and the letter mentioned

> by you which was provided by Surinder is meant only for

> Corporate Office New Delhi to receive the cases from Circle

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> Management has the last say may land you in trouble. Even

> disciplinary action may be taken as you are openly accusing

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> of your new born baby... it really pained me a lot. May

> Waheguru

> gives you strength to bear all those pains. i can fully

> understand and feel the loss of any family member as i

> personally lost 3 close family members periodically in last

> 15 months. i lost my Nana ji (Papa ji, Grand Father),

> My father-in-law and recently my Naniji (Beeji,

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> injustice done by DGM(Admn) to CGM Chandigarh. I have done

> everything for raising my voice towards injustice now i am

> requesting to CC Punjab and CHQ Snatta to take my voice at

> Delhi for not getting any type of award only for showing

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> DISTT PRESIDENT

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Messages in this topic (3)
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4b. Re: Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:59 am ((PDT))

Dear Surinder
 
Thx for very valuable suggetions actually when u gave me that information i Immidiately pass that information to CGM, GM , DGM and DET etc by flasing a message on there cells
Message is like that:-
Kindly refer letter no 32-1/2-1 WL Sports dated 19-7-2010 regarding extending the date from 16-7-2010 to 31-7-2010 for circles have neither sent nomination for a 'SANCHAR PADAK'. Even they want nil report if there is no case. Sir If CO extend his date for the welfare of employees then why not the worthy Punjab Circle.
 dear friend i always welcome the information provided to me by any means and i never afraid them to send messages to GM etc.once again thx and hope for same type of support in the future also.

 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 6:36 PM


 


Dear Preet, Bandhan and other friends....

Its not a matter of the person's personal gratitude, but its the matter related entirely to the technical minds like us. We got the education so that our minds become too sharper that No body can make us fools in ours eyes. The BSNL Mgmt had did this for sure and we wont allow this for them to have a happy sleep over the ssue and matter.

Mr Preetpal, No matter what episode the local Mgmt played is just a foul play on theirs level. some of them may be feeling repentine over the matter, but we have not to acknowledge them that the TRAIN HAD MISSED. What Bandhan had worried is also of the concern matter becouse he felt that somewhere our leadership at CHQ level is playing at underestimate level. i know when i raised the matter for the designation change and what Mr. Abhilash had said the "he wanna see me to giving the replies of the RTIs" and till today i am egerly waiting for his comments over the replied i had given in mine returning mail. I m sure that person have nothing to say as its cant be tolerable to accept the officer's responsibilities at same financial wallet. Mr Preetpal have never demanded remenuration but one common thing is that we need (obviously every body needs..) the social recognition for the Hard work which our friends are doing...

Mr Preet, The views over the comments from Mr Bandhan is my just observation and there is nothing personal. Perheps you remember the time when i made u the call for the updated letter for the nominations reminder. there is a lot in that letter to understand, but i was bit surprised that u guys put a self decorated tag over that letter by saying that this is for only circle or the BSNL CO. Your local body must pressurise the circle with the help of that letter...but the letter was taken as just anyway.....

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U Just repersent your case politely to the concerned officers and if they are not getting it acknowledge, u can pull them all under the Hon'ble Indian Constitutional Act "The Indian Lok Pal Act" for Misusing their powers and see the result.. These all guys are forgetting one thing that they are the ITS officers which are under DoT and Ministry of Communication. Once they are served the show cause notice under the mentined Act, they will find no roof to hide themselves. The Indian Constitution is very strong, but these people are taking the service matters like otherwise.


They should know one thing "Agar kissiee TTA ke kissi din sarak gayee na to unka fuse udd jayega...."


Anyway....i have given u the direction, To move or Not to Move depends entirely on you.....


Comments, Criticism and Suggestions welcomed as always....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation injustice
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:25 AM


 

Hiii Bandhan

All cases are important JTO LICE is more important but discouragement of members can be tolerated at any stage. IF PM AND PRESIDENT OF INDIA and Others leaders all will busy in only one issue then who will save our country will they invite Pakistan to attack on INDIA we all are busy.
WITH REGARDS Er.PRITPAL SINGH DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR PUNJAB 09417073556 preet

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:

> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation injustice
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> Delhi for not getting any type of award only for showing
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4c. Re: Operation injustice.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:05 am ((PDT))

 
 
 Surinder,
 
 
                  Again you have given very logical answers . Actually i am not against BANDHAN , earlier i have said him LION of punjab , because he is doing a good job at yahoo group platform by writing good mails which are full of latest knowlede, information etc.BUT due to STRANGE BEHAVIOUR OF BANDHAN ON A TOPIC OF PRITPAL SINGH IS OUT OF MY UNDERSTNADING.He is suggesting a few things to pritpal singh like--
 
1. your DGM take action against you.
 
2. some one file case if earlier nomination cancelled.
 
3. he compared death of son of pritpal with deaths of his reletive.
 
4. he compared work of pritpal with him.
 
5. he repling the mails as personal matter like matter of pritpal singh. 
 
 
                      So i request to bandhan dont take it personal.if you in a postion to do something for pritpal then pl do it.
 
 
Jasvir jassal,
vice-president-snatta-pb,
9417434555.
 
 
 
 
 
 


 


 

, but i was bit surprised that u guys put a self decorated tag over that letter by saying that this is for only circle or the BSNL CO. Your local body must pressurise the circle with the help of that letter...but the letter was taken as just anyway.....

Now, the Most important Point :
U Just repersent your case politely to the concerned officers and if they are not getting it acknowledge, u can pull them all under the Hon'ble Indian Constitutional Act "The Indian Lok Pal Act" for Misusing their powers and see the result.. These all guys are forgetting one thing that they are the ITS officers which are under DoT and Ministry of Communication. Once they are served the show cause notice under the mentined Act, they will find no roof to hide themselves. The Indian Constitution is very strong, but these people are taking the service matters like otherwise.


They should know one thing "Agar kissiee TTA ke kissi din sarak gayee na to unka fuse udd jayega...."


Anyway....i have given u the direction, To move or Not to Move depends entirely on you.....


Comments, Criticism and Suggestions welcomed as always....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation injustice
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:25 AM


 


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5a. Re: keep it up
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:31 am ((PDT))

Hello friends
 
thx to all with ur support i can get excellent results after operation injustice. I am happy that except CHQ everybody through mails, calling on my cell nd sms messages on my cell which encourage my confidence. my dear friends silence of CHQ is working like a slow poision for me.If i got victory then it will bw the victory of whole TTA group. i dont bother about the award now. GM and DGms boosting messages more than any award for me above and more to that support of group. I love to play a quick and short game not a big game of many days. If a play long game then managent will capture me. BY tommarow i have to contact worthy CMD on his cell and later on written complaint i will send.again i m sorry to say that i will have to do work of CHQ as we done in the offices by doing work of SDE and JTO. Is it justified i at my own shoulder contact CHQ.If CHQ want this then i will do this also " AKELE AAYE THEY AKELE JAYENGE"


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: keep it up
To: preetparu@yahoo.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 6:37 PM

Dear Pritpal
 I know very well how hard working you are, you must be rewarded as this will not only boost up you but the whole group of TTA also. We are all with you. All dgms and gms must realise that TTAs are not like any other class three employee, he can fight with anyone, if injustice done with him.
We had Bihar circle conference on 25/07/10, we even discussed this matter there also to show the new comer that any TTA is not weak in any sense. Please be in touch with the CHQ for any advice.
At the same time I am really feeling very sad as you lost your newly born baby. My 'dua' is with your whole family.
 
Shahnawaz Akhtar
CS, Bihar,Patna
9431094583


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5b. Re: keep it up
Posted by: "rkm_delhi25" rkm_delhi25@yahoo.co.uk rkm_delhi25
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:05 am ((PDT))


Hi Preet,
Its good to see you up in arms against the injustice done to you due to the administrative lapse and pathetic & callous attitude of the ITS fraternity and admin section of your SSA. I am writing this mail, to let you know that I had visited the Circle Office, Chandigarh,PB to pursue your case. The Circle Office had informed me that at this stage virtually nothing can be done at their end coz the due date had already been expired and the said case had already been closed at their level and send to Delhi HQ for further persual. Also, the CMD is getting retired and he is supposed to clear each and every file/ case pending before his retirement. So, the question of reopening the award case is not feasible at this juncture.
Personally, I will advise you to take up matter in the LCM and RCM via our Circle Secretary, with whom I had already discussed the matter in length & punish the unruly DGM.
With kind regards

Rajeev Kumar Mandal
District Secy, Chandigarh, PB
Cell 94176-88844


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5c. Re: keep it up
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:21 pm ((PDT))

Best Initiative Mr Mandal.

Gud Pursual...

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

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> Its good to see you up in arms against the injustice done to you due to the administrative lapse and pathetic & callous attitude of the ITS fraternity and admin section of your SSA. I am writing this mail, to let you know that I had visited the Circle Office, Chandigarh,PB to pursue your case. The Circle Office had informed me that at this stage virtually nothing can be done at their end coz the due date had already been expired and the said case had already been closed at their level and send to Delhi HQ for further persual. Also, the CMD is getting retired and he is supposed to clear each and every file/ case pending before his retirement. So, the question of reopening the award case is not feasible at this juncture.
> Personally, I will advise you to take up matter in the LCM and RCM via our Circle Secretary, with whom I had already discussed the matter in length & punish the unruly DGM.
>With kind regards
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>District Secy, Chandigarh, PB
>Cell 94176-88844
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5d. Re: keep it up
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:22 pm ((PDT))


Thanks Rajiv ji i really appreciate ur efforts for my case i hope OUR WORTHY CHQ must learnt from it.My dear friend this information i had collect from Circle office through telephonically regarding delay of case before starting this OPERATION. secondly friend i cant wait for LCM and RCM upto that management must hang me as the our Worthy CGM will be the President of ITS and our DGM will also be a ITS. so friends i wanna DGM should be warn for his action no other TTA will suffered again not only in punjab but also in whole india and management must issue some guidelines for stoping this type of injustice when they recommended any employees name for any type of Award. Once again heartly thx for ur support and coordination keep it up

 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
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From: rkm_delhi25 <rkm_delhi25@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: TTABSNL Re: keep it up
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 8:31 PM


 


Hi Preet,
Its good to see you up in arms against the injustice done to you due to the administrative lapse and pathetic & callous attitude of the ITS fraternity and admin section of your SSA. I am writing this mail, to let you know that I had visited the Circle Office, Chandigarh,PB to pursue your case. The Circle Office had informed me that at this stage virtually nothing can be done at their end coz the due date had already been expired and the said case had already been closed at their level and send to Delhi HQ for further persual. Also, the CMD is getting retired and he is supposed to clear each and every file/ case pending before his retirement. So, the question of reopening the award case is not feasible at this juncture.
Personally, I will advise you to take up matter in the LCM and RCM via our Circle Secretary, with whom I had already discussed the matter in length & punish the unruly DGM.
With kind regards

Rajeev Kumar Mandal
District Secy, Chandigarh, PB
Cell 94176-88844


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5e. Re: keep it up
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:23 pm ((PDT))

Best Initiative Mr Mandal.

Gud Pursual...

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 8:01 AM PDT rkm_delhi25 wrote:

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> Its good to see you up in arms against the injustice done to you due to the administrative lapse and pathetic & callous attitude of the ITS fraternity and admin section of your SSA. I am writing this mail, to let you know that I had visited the Circle Office, Chandigarh,PB to pursue your case. The Circle Office had informed me that at this stage virtually nothing can be done at their end coz the due date had already been expired and the said case had already been closed at their level and send to Delhi HQ for further persual. Also, the CMD is getting retired and he is supposed to clear each and every file/ case pending before his retirement. So, the question of reopening the award case is not feasible at this juncture.
> Personally, I will advise you to take up matter in the LCM and RCM via our Circle Secretary, with whom I had already discussed the matter in length & punish the unruly DGM.
>With kind regards
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>Rajeev Kumar Mandal
>District Secy, Chandigarh, PB
>Cell 94176-88844
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6a. Re: Bihar Circle Conference
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:33 am ((PDT))

hi..

congratulations Bihar Team for successfully organizing Circle Meeting...
we are waiting for Punjab Meeting at the earliest.

regards,
Bandhan

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:57 AM, s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

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> 12.00 Welcome speech by Patna Dist. Secretary.
> 12.10. Inauguration by Chief Guest
> 12.15 Open session
> 13.00 Lunch
> 14.00 Subject committee meeting (Financial secretary report and secretary
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> 14.15 Debate on secretary report and other issues by Dist secretaries /Dist
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> 16.00 Vote of thanks by the Circle Secretary.
> 16.15 Election for Office bearers for the next term.
> 17.30 End of the conference.
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> New recruited TTAs were also present in a large no. Of course they are not
> happy with the recent wage revision, as they are getting less pay. Their
> anger is quite justified but we assure them to have faith in the efforts of
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> bearers were elected unanimously. Active young chaps from the post 2007
> batch have been considered in the circle body. SNATTA Bihar hopes that this
> new group of office bearer will show its strength and integrity to fulfill
> the genuine demands of TTAs. Active participation is expected from all of us
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> 1. Central Coordinator : Sri Bhupendra Kumar,Patna
> 2. Circle President : Sri Rajeev kumar, Munger
> a) Vice President : Sri Shashi kant kumar
> b) Vice President : Sri R.P.Singh, Bhagalpur
> c) Vice President : Sri S.K.Jha, Samastipur
> d) Vice President : Sri Sunil Kumar , Patna
> 2. Circle Secretary : Sri Shahnawaz Akhtar, Patna
> a) Asst Circle Secretary : Sri Sharwan Kumar Dubey, Patna
> b) Asst Circle Secretary : Sri Vijay kumar, Ara
> c) Asst Circle Secretary : Sri Kamal Prasad Sahu, Darbhanga
> d) Asst Circle Secretary : Sri Shiv Shankar Prasad, Betia
> 3. Circle Treasurer : Sri Manoj Sah, Patna
> Executive members :
> 1.Sri Pramod Kumar Chapra
> 2.Sri Shailendra Kumar Ara
> 3.Sri Alok Kumar Munger
> 4. Sri Anwar Hussain Patna
> 5. Sri K.P.Sharma Bhagalpur
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> Bihar Cirlce congratulate all the elected office bearers and wish them all
> the best for their future activities.
> Shahnawaz Akhtar
> CS, SNATTA
> Bihar Circle, Patna
> 9431094583
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>

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regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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________________________________________________________________________
6b. Re: Bihar Circle Conference
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:08 am ((PDT))


Dear CS Bihar Circle,
Salaam.

Once our country is ruled by big powers of five womenfolks, why not to represent
in ur huge team of new office bearers? Is there no one to shoulder the
responsibilities for fair sex? Try to accommodate some one through nomination
atleast.
Still Hearty Congrats for the successful conducting of Circle Conference.
Good Show, Keep it up. SN Ameen

________________________________
From: s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in>
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com; snattabihar@yahoogroups.com; snattachq@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, 27 July, 2010 9:27:55 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Bihar Circle Conference

 

       We successfully conducted our 3rd Bihar Circle Conference on 25/07/2010
(Sunday) at UPTRC, Patna under the presidium of Mr. Rajeev Kumar, Circle
President SNATTA, Bihar. The Chief Guest was Mr. M.K.Singh, Cricle Treasurer
BSNLEU,  Bihar Circle.
 
We had the following program :-
12.00 Welcome speech by Patna Dist. Secretary.
12.10. Inauguration by Chief Guest
12.15 Open session
13.00 Lunch
14.00 Subject committee meeting (Financial secretary report and secretary
report)
14.15 Debate on secretary report and other issues by Dist secretaries /Dist
representatives.
16.00 Vote of thanks by the Circle Secretary.
16.15 Election for Office bearers for the next term.
17.30 End of the conference.

        We tried our best to invite a large no of TTAs from all the SSAs. New
recruited TTAs were also present in a large no. Of course they are not happy
with the recent wage revision, as they are getting less pay. Their anger is
quite justified but we assure them to have faith in the efforts of our CHQ
leaders.


         In the last, after having a detailed discussion, new office bearers
were elected unanimously. Active young chaps from the post 2007 batch have been
considered in the circle body. SNATTA Bihar hopes that this new group of office
bearer will show its strength and integrity to fulfill the genuine demands of
TTAs. Active participation is expected from all of us as every TTA is a leader.
.
We discussed for AIC in  Goa, many friends are ready to participate. We all
enjoyed the whole meeting, tea, cold drinks and delicious lunch.

The list of Circle body office bearer is as following :-
1. Central Coordinator         : Sri Bhupendra Kumar,Patna
2. Circle President                : Sri Rajeev kumar, Munger
a) Vice President                  : Sri Shashi kant kumar
b) Vice President                  : Sri R.P.Singh, Bhagalpur
c) Vice President                  : Sri S.K.Jha, Samastipur
d) Vice President                  : Sri Sunil Kumar , Patna
2. Circle Secretary               : Sri Shahnawaz Akhtar, Patna
a) Asst Circle Secretary       : Sri Sharwan Kumar Dubey, Patna
b) Asst Circle Secretary       : Sri Vijay kumar, Ara
c) Asst Circle Secretary       : Sri Kamal Prasad Sahu, Darbhanga
d) Asst Circle Secretary       : Sri Shiv Shankar Prasad, Betia
3. Circle Treasurer               : Sri Manoj Sah, Patna
Executive members :
1.Sri Pramod Kumar            Chapra
2.Sri Shailendra Kumar        Ara
3.Sri Alok Kumar                 Munger
4. Sri Anwar Hussain            Patna
5. Sri K.P.Sharma                Bhagalpur

Bihar Cirlce congratulate all the elected office bearers and wish them all the
best for their future activities.
Shahnawaz Akhtar
CS, SNATTA
Bihar Circle, Patna
9431094583
  
.

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7a. Operation Injustice
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:35 am ((PDT))

Dear Mr. Pritpal Singh

On going through your representation, follow up & request for actiion against
injustice through SNATTA, it reveal the following based on my administrative
experience. It may not convince you of course if u r already determined to fight
it out. Pse read the following paras politely and take a decisive conclusion.

There is a possibility that your immediate boss SDE might have not put up your
citation with remarks as "Strongly & Specially Recommended" which is a mandatory
one for consideration by DGM.

Granting award is not absolute or a right of employee, it is just a privilege
unlike pay.

DGM (Admin)/GM are given with absolute prerogative power which cannot be
questioned, at least on such type of decision-making.

Again, the achievers do not seek the awards, rather it should be regarded by
superiors to the individual's hardwork towards the goal of organization for
motivation.

Your claim or blaming the Admin branch for the inordinate delay of 21 days is in
bad taste, as the awards are not obtained through fight, which may bring
disrepute to your all hard works what you did so far.

Also, besides technical skill and trade proficiency of the individual &
financial impact to the organisation by one's extra ordinary contributions,
there are so many other criteria to be taken into account for consideration to
any coveted awards, viz. loyalty, integrity, discipline, subordination,
communication skill, ability to impart knowledge to subordinates, coordination,
managerial ability, cohesiveness or team work, leadership qualities, extra
curricular activities like participation in sports etc. Now you now where u
stand if u put together these all qualities and most of these or almost all are
covered in ACRs. So, you being a DS of SNATTA/BSNLEU, your rapport with the
DGM/GM might not be so conducive to the level of tgheir anticipation, as you
might be in a position to fight out for some local issues and might be in
loggerheads with higher ups, as the case may be.

Finally, drafting of such an application to redress the grievances is not in
good order. Just replace the word 'worthy' with 'honourable' with a befitting
title, and read it again. It will be sounding good and impressive.

Do recollect the verses of Bhagwat Gita:

"What do you have to lose? once you brought to this world 'nothing' , and why do
you have to worry about the lost, once you do not carry 'anything' along with,
while leaving the world.

Do your duty and submit to God, don't expect the results/rewards."
 
I do remember that you started asking for copy of constitution of snatta when a
proposal was put up for strengthening the organisation, despite your awareness
that our association might not have framed the constitution so far. You being
one among the stalwarts, instead of taking a leading role, started questioning
your own house itself, is also in bad taste as per my view. Now u r anticipating
a total support behind you from the same association which is not having any
constitution.

All together, you made up a mesh out of this issue. Please take it supportively
and do not have any ill feelings. I have no iota of doubt that you deserve the
award for the hard work you put up, but in the eyes of Administration.

Still I apologize for my frank expressions though these are presumably facts
alone. If you have anything to criticize, you are welcomed.

With Regards,

SN Ameen, Jeddah, KSA
00966555802143.


Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
7b. Re: Operation Injustice
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:05 am ((PDT))

Thats it my friend I wanna same reply or call from that CHQ that we have no constitution. if i demanded that that for the well wisher of TTA group not for my personnel interest. MY dear friend I made my resume and mail it to DGM and on second day it will go with the forwarding letter of DET Tanda. now the responsibilty of Admin section to change my citation for modification demanded my ACRS of three years what they dont do that. they do when i call DGM and send sms to GM. Plz read my message of 22-7-2010 before operation injustice. i neither demanded for any award they offered me now they how can they delay my case just think over it.once again i request u that i dont want award now plz dont post this that i want award i m fighting for delay of 21 days only nothing else. secondly if i want CONSTITUTION it means CHQ dont help me okkk i understand what they want. thx


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Operation Injustice
To: "tta bsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 7:58 PM

Dear Mr. Pritpal Singh
 
On going through your representation, follow up & request for actiion against injustice through SNATTA, it reveal the following based on my administrative experience. It may not convince you of course if u r already determined to fight it out. Pse read the following paras politely and take a decisive conclusion.
 
There is a possibility that your immediate boss SDE might have not put up your citation with remarks as "Strongly & Specially Recommended" which is a mandatory one for consideration by DGM.
 
Granting award is not absolute or a right of employee, it is just a privilege unlike pay.
 
DGM (Admin)/GM are given with absolute prerogative power which cannot be questioned, at least on such type of decision-making.
 
Again, the achievers do not seek the awards, rather it should be regarded by superiors to the individual's hardwork towards the goal of organization for motivation.
 
Your claim or blaming the Admin branch for the inordinate delay of 21 days is in bad taste, as the awards are not obtained through fight, which may bring disrepute to your all hard works what you did so far.
 
Also, besides technical skill and trade proficiency of the individual & financial impact to the organisation by one's extra ordinary contributions, there are so many other criteria to be taken into account for consideration to any coveted awards, viz. loyalty, integrity, discipline, subordination, communication skill, ability to impart knowledge to subordinates, coordination, managerial ability, cohesiveness or team work, leadership qualities, extra curricular activities like participation in sports etc. Now you now where u stand if u put together these all qualities and most of these or almost all are covered in ACRs. So, you being a DS of SNATTA/BSNLEU, your rapport with the DGM/GM might not be so conducive to the level of tgheir anticipation, as you might be in a position to fight out for some local issues and might be in loggerheads with higher ups, as the case may be.
 
Finally, drafting of such an application to redress the grievances is not in good order. Just replace the word 'worthy' with 'honourable' with a befitting title, and read it again. It will be sounding good and impressive.
 
Do recollect the verses of Bhagwat Gita:
 
"What do you have to lose? once you brought to this world 'nothing' , and why do you have to worry about the lost, once you do not carry 'anything' along with, while leaving the world.
Do your duty and submit to God, don't expect the results/rewards."
 
I do remember that you started asking for copy of constitution of snatta when a proposal was put up for strengthening the organisation, despite your awareness that our association might not have framed the constitution so far. You being one among the stalwarts, instead of taking a leading role, started questioning your own house itself, is also in bad taste as per my view. Now u r anticipating a total support behind you from the same association which is not having any constitution.
 
All together, you made up a mesh out of this issue. Please take it supportively and do not have any ill feelings. I have no iota of doubt that you deserve the award for the hard work you put up, but in the eyes of Administration.
 
Still I apologize for my frank expressions though these are presumably facts alone. If you have anything to criticize, you are welcomed.
 
With Regards,
 
SN Ameen, Jeddah, KSA
00966555802143.

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7c. Re: Operation Injustice
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:22 pm ((PDT))


 
 
 Friends,
 
                  If our chq leaders have no time to address the query of members of snatta, then it is my humble request to chq leadres, then give the POWERS OF ADDRESSING QUERY TO SOME ABLE CENTRAL CORDINATORS ON BEHALF OF CHQ LEADRES.
 
                         In this way chq have enough time to HANDLE MAIN IMPORTANT ISSUE OF SNATTA.In present case of PRITPAL SINGH , it is supposed that our chq leadres are busy with some court work , then they simply give chq powers to ANY CENTRAL CORDINATOR TO HANDLE THIS CASE , BECAUSE LAST DATE IS 31-7-2010.It is easy to understand that our GS,VERMA JI & President is busy  then they assign duty to any CENTRAL CORDINTOR to answer/address query of members on yahoo group.
 
                   I think chq leadres MUST THINHK ON THIS PROPSAL TO ASSIGN POWER OF CHQ TO ANY CC TO ANSWER/ADDRESS QUERY OF MEMBERS ON YAHOO GROUP.
 
 
Harjinder singh,
ssa-ludhiana,
9417217176.
 
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 7/27/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Operation Injustice
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 2:48 PM


 

Thats it my friend I wanna same reply or call from that CHQ that we have no constitution. if i demanded that that for the well wisher of TTA group not for my personnel interest. MY dear friend I made my resume and mail it to DGM and on second day it will go with the forwarding letter of DET Tanda. now the responsibilty of Admin section to change my citation for modification demanded my ACRS of three years what they dont do that. they do when i call DGM and send sms to GM. Plz read my message of 22-7-2010 before operation injustice. i neither demanded for any award they offered me now they how can they delay my case just think over it.once again i request u that i dont want award now plz dont post this that i want award i m fighting for delay of 21 days only nothing else. secondly if i want CONSTITUTION it means CHQ dont help me okkk i understand what they want. thx


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:


From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: TTABSNL Operation Injustice
To: "tta bsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 7:58 PM

Dear Mr. Pritpal Singh
 
On going through your representation, follow up & request for actiion against injustice through SNATTA, it reveal the following based on my administrative experience. It may not convince you of course if u r already determined to fight it out. Pse read the following paras politely and take a decisive conclusion.
 
There is a possibility that your immediate boss SDE might have not put up your citation with remarks as "Strongly & Specially Recommended" which is a mandatory one for consideration by DGM.
 
Granting award is not absolute or a right of employee, it is just a privilege unlike pay.
 
DGM (Admin)/GM are given with absolute prerogative power which cannot be questioned, at least on such type of decision-making.
 
Again, the achievers do not seek the awards, rather it should be regarded by superiors to the individual's hardwork towards the goal of organization for motivation.
 
Your claim or blaming the Admin branch for the inordinate delay of 21 days is in bad taste, as the awards are not obtained through fight, which may bring disrepute to your all hard works what you did so far.
 
Also, besides technical skill and trade proficiency of the individual & financial impact to the organisation by one's extra ordinary contributions, there are so many other criteria to be taken into account for consideration to any coveted awards, viz. loyalty, integrity, discipline, subordination, communication skill, ability to impart knowledge to subordinates, coordination, managerial ability, cohesiveness or team work, leadership qualities, extra curricular activities like participation in sports etc. Now you now where u stand if u put together these all qualities and most of these or almost all are covered in ACRs. So, you being a DS of SNATTA/BSNLEU, your rapport with the DGM/GM might not be so conducive to the level of tgheir anticipation, as you might be in a position to fight out for some local issues and might be in loggerheads with higher ups, as the case may be.
 
Finally, drafting of such an application to redress the grievances is not in good order. Just replace the word 'worthy' with 'honourable' with a befitting title, and read it again. It will be sounding good and impressive.
 
Do recollect the verses of Bhagwat Gita:
 
"What do you have to lose? once you brought to this world 'nothing' , and why do you have to worry about the lost, once you do not carry 'anything' along with, while leaving the world.
Do your duty and submit to God, don't expect the results/rewards. "
 
I do remember that you started asking for copy of constitution of snatta when a proposal was put up for strengthening the organisation, despite your awareness that our association might not have framed the constitution so far. You being one among the stalwarts, instead of taking a leading role, started questioning your own house itself, is also in bad taste as per my view. Now u r anticipating a total support behind you from the same association which is not having any constitution.
 
All together, you made up a mesh out of this issue. Please take it supportively and do not have any ill feelings. I have no iota of doubt that you deserve the award for the hard work you put up, but in the eyes of Administration.
 
Still I apologize for my frank expressions though these are presumably facts alone. If you have anything to criticize, you are welcomed.
 
With Regards,
 
SN Ameen, Jeddah, KSA
00966555802143.


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________________________________________________________________________
8a. Re: Fw: designation change (Assistant Engineer (Telecom))
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:37 am ((PDT))

hi..

you are right yasin..

i also get furious when i heard some1 calling me Technician.
Dil to karta hai modem utha ke muh par maarooon... but somehow i hold my
temper. ;-)

thats why i never told anyone that i am a TTA which mostly looks like i am a
Technician or an Assistant to someone, who could not work independently,* i
just simply introduce myself as Broadband Engineer.*

when i joined Broadband section, earlier people used to call me Technician
but i changed their mindset and whenevr i gave my offical WLL No. to them i
make sure they feed my contact as Broadband Engineer, BSNL. or i gave them
slip with written as Bandhan Preet Singh, Broadband Engineer.

earlier my SDO also called me as TTA in front of anyone..but now since ages
he always introduce me only as Broadband Engineer.
He also lovingly called me ROCKET SINGH.. ;-)) in front of his friends.

*the summary is.... Broadband TTAs are known as Broadband Engineers in
Mohali.*

guys you all have technical bend of mind and TTA post is meant for Diploma
Holders and above (technical streams), so proudly says that you are an
Engineer (Senior or Junior does not matter).

regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh*

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Yasin Sindhi <ygsindhi_mln@yahoo.co.in>wrote:

>
>
> Yes Paresh is absolutely right,, Till date i hear in my SSA also Most of
> SDE's are calling us as "TECHNICIAN" and when i also heard this i also loose
> my temper... this is not fair with us....
>
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Er.Yasin Sindhi*
>
> *BSC-WLL, PALANPUR (N.G.)*
>
> *M: +919429361555
> *
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* paresh.pipalia <paresh.pipalia@yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, 26 July, 2010 12:57:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL Fw: designation change (Assistant Engineer
> (Telecom))
>
> Mr. Saha ,
> i m not running from responsibilities but when our seniour JTO
> and SDE call us as "TECNICIAN" (generally technician is used for ITI people)
> inspite of being degree engineer then i loose my moral towards
> responsibilities.I think u understand what i m saying.
>
>
>
> Paresh Pipalia
> Amreli-(gujarat)
> Mo:9429223322
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please visit us at www.snatta.org for more details.Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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9a. Regarding personal pay
Posted by: "jai karthik" brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in brain007_rjk
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:02 am ((PDT))

 with love                       jaikarthik

--- On Thu, 22/7/10, jai karthik <brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jai karthik <brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Regarding personal pay
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 7:58 AM

Hi friends...

                              Is any of our friends got personal pay on may/ June month in tamilnadu circle.. plz mail me with your salary slip... its very urgent... 


Jaikarthik
TTA(Sales)
Karaikudi SSA
Tamilnadu circle



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9b. Re: Regarding personal pay
Posted by: "VENKATESAN RAD" venk212@yahoo.com venk212
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:22 pm ((PDT))

conoor ssa got personal pay

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:10 IST jai karthik wrote:

>
>
> with love                       jaikarthik
>
>--- On Thu, 22/7/10, jai karthik <brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>From: jai karthik <brain007_rjk@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: Regarding personal pay
>To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 7:58 AM
>
>Hi friends...
>
>                              Is any of our friends got personal pay on may/ June month in tamilnadu circle.. plz mail me with your salary slip... its very urgent... 
>
>
>
>
>Jaikarthik
>TTA(Sales)
>Karaikudi SSA
>Tamilnadu circle
>
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10. unable to get wireless connection with type II modem.
Posted by: "haricharan12" haricharan12@yahoo.com haricharan12
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:24 pm ((PDT))

Hi all. we are provided with new "24 VMC" type II modem, belongs to fiberhome. it works fine with PPPOE mode through Ethernet, unfortunately it fails to get connected with wireless LAN on laptop. I did following to fix it.

. confirmed if wlan is enabled in modem.
. no encryption key in DSL modem. it is NONE.
. checked the compatibility with laptop WLAN card. it is 802.11 b/g.
. the same laptop works fine with wireless connection from UTSTARCOM and ITI modems.

it just gets detected in "available wireless networks" in PC's/laptops, but fails to get connected.
. no antivirus or firewalls enabled.

Please help, getting vexed with this MODEM. Had anyone did see this modem at all
by the way I am from Bhongir, Nalgonda District, Andhra pradesh


plzzzzzzzz help frnds

Thank you

G. HARICHARAN
TTA(p)Broadband, Bhongir
NALGONDA
ANDHRA PRADESH

PH.No. 9490364561


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11. (no subject)
Posted by: "manish sahu" manish_hitech@yahoo.com manish_hitech
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:26 pm ((PDT))

dear friends
 
pl help me yar,tell me procedure for booking of bsnl holiday room and iq for TTA

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