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1a. Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTA
From: SHEETAL GAIKWAD
1b. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
1c. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
From: satyanarayana arigela
2a. designation change
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3.1. For Designation Change....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
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1a. Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTA
Posted by: "SHEETAL GAIKWAD" mail2sheetalg@yahoo.co.in mail2sheetalg
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:04 am ((PDT))
Hello,
I think "Telecom Engineer" will be the best choice....Please don't use word "Assistant" in our designation.
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hi SNATTAians,
One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Poll is just created to get the Trend from the SNATTAians.
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our next DESTINATION...!!
"Junior Engineer JE" -
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission
>>> for example >> Junior Engineer Telecom or Junior Engineer Broadband
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission - "ENGINEER Er."
>>> for example >> Telecom Engineer or Broadband Engineer
"Telecom Support Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Rural/Urban/ Broadband/ Switch/Services/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom
Support Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Support Engineer (Switch)
"Telecom Service Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Urban/Broadband /Switch/Support/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Service Engineer (MDF)
"Service Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Service Engineer (Telecom) or Service Engineer (Broadband)
"Support Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Support Engineer (Transmission) or Support Engineer (Switch)
the above poll link is http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/surveys? id=2308883 open it and Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers are designated as Junior Engineers.
The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that
they are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer so that the sanity prevails in them.
The above lines in green are not mine instead taken from http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/message/ 3019 these are said by our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST Suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), only if BSNLEU is adamant on Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators then Demand not less than EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided to change its Group-B
ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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1b. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:49 am ((PDT))
hello bandhan
very gud analysis keep it up. this is what that i actually want.see before this mail we all stick on one word ie JE(T).For getting anything favourable from BSNL we
must give them some more option so that we can win the battle.
WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hi SNATTAians,
One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Poll is just created to get the Trend from the SNATTAians.
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our next DESTINATION...!!
"Junior Engineer JE" - Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission
>>> for example >> Junior Engineer Telecom or Junior Engineer Broadband
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission - "ENGINEER Er."
>>> for example >> Telecom Engineer or Broadband Engineer
"Telecom Support Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Rural/Urban/ Broadband/ Switch/Services/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Support Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Support Engineer (Switch)
"Telecom Service Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Urban/Broadband /Switch/Support/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Service Engineer (MDF)
"Service Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Service Engineer (Telecom) or Service Engineer (Broadband)
"Support Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Support Engineer (Transmission) or Support Engineer (Switch)
the above poll link is http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/surveys? id=2308883 open it and Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers are designated as Junior Engineers.
The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that they are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer so that the sanity prevails in them.
The above lines in green are not mine instead taken from http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/message/ 3019 these are said by our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST Suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), only if BSNLEU is adamant on Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators then Demand not less than EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided to change its Group-B ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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1c. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
Posted by: "satyanarayana arigela" satyaarigela@yahoo.co.in satyaarigela
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:59 am ((PDT))
excellent job dear BPSingh...
this is the best way for opinion of all the people.
can u put this voting procedure in snatta.org..
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 9:50 PM
hello bandhan
very gud analysis keep it up. this is what that i actually want.see before this mail we all stick on one word ie JE(T).For getting anything favourable from BSNL we
must give them some more option so that we can win the battle.
WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hi SNATTAians,
One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Poll is just created to get the Trend from the SNATTAians.
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our next DESTINATION...!!
"Junior Engineer JE" - Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission
>>> for example >> Junior Engineer Telecom or Junior Engineer Broadband
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission - "ENGINEER Er."
>>> for example >> Telecom Engineer or Broadband Engineer
"Telecom Support Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Rural/Urban/ Broadband/ Switch/Services/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Support Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Support Engineer (Switch)
"Telecom Service Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Urban/Broadband /Switch/Support/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Service Engineer (MDF)
"Service Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Service Engineer (Telecom) or Service Engineer (Broadband)
"Support Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Support Engineer (Transmission) or Support Engineer (Switch)
the above poll link is http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/surveys? id=2308883 open it and Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers are designated as Junior Engineers.
The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that they are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer so that the sanity prevails in them.
The above lines in green are not mine instead taken from http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/message/ 3019 these are said by our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST Suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), only if BSNLEU is adamant on Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators then Demand not less than EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided to change its Group-B ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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2a. designation change
Posted by: "Manoj Desai" manojndesai1@yahoo.in manojndesai1
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:05 am ((PDT))
JTO was Class C post before but lateron it becones executives
we should also try to get executive status
whatever may be name but should be executives
MANOJ DESAI
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3.1. For Designation Change....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:07 am ((PDT))
Dear All....
Management is going to hit us the Hardest since the "NEPP for Non Executives in BSNL has been implemented under the flagship of so called BSNLEU" and "Performance based appraisal system for the Non Executives" is on the cards in BSNL. So, think about the designation change under this scenario also.
Fingers Crossed......
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 1:20 AM
a very deep analysis deep kumar... keep it up.. people like u made us proud by ur rational thinking.
bandhan
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@ yahoo.com> wrote:
very well said dear bandhanJE or JE(T) is the most suitable designation for us and only because the fear of RTI we should not let it go. actually at present we r not the signatory authority and mere change in designation is not going to make us Executives.
one more thing, the word executive is there in the designation of non-executives also in private companies. mere this word in the designation doesn't make any one Executive as a cadre but it gives the face lift of the employee and company too.
Actually the technical cadre in BSNL has been discriminated since long on all the platform due to their less presence on the union platform. how does any union accept RM (regular mazdoor) as a designation
to its permanent staff? how demoralizing this designation is? there are Telecom Mechanics as a designation and we r suffering with this damn TTA. And on other hand the clerical cadre got Sr.TOA. they got themselves the word SENIOR in their designation. they got respect for themselves and deprived the same to others.
now again the issue of designation change was first raised by SNATTA and has been hijacked for the change in designation for all. all other cadre was quite content with their designation even old TTAs had not raised this issue. but seeing that we r going for the change they involve themselves.
i again request to MR. Hakam singh ji to just go for the JE or JE(T) without fearing for the RTI.
deepak kumar9431610399
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 1:31:29 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designati on as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
hi..
there is always a difference of opinions among equals.
sorry surinder and Huda ji.. in my personal view Junior Engineer (JE) or Junior Engineer Telecom (JET) is most apt for TTAs as its the most widely used and recognised Designation in India. Pls read my previous mails for more details. i am only objecting the word executive for Operators.
When CHQ decided to get us Junior Engineer then they must have given a deep thought over it. so pls wisely suggest the Designation. if any body has good suggestion then he is welcome. everyone has its own opinion and we have to respect it... i don't think that Group C can be made scapegoat. and why we are worrying much abt this RTI issue ..we are tomorrow's JTO or may be Assistant Manager even then we have to be responsible for RTI queries. Can we run away from it then.?
Dear Hakam don't get emotional about rank.. but take your time to decide best for us including worries of RTI. Good Luck to you.
regards,
Bandhan
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:.
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind
Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda
are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us
any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation
considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name
ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU
maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE
ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It
is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will
be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in,
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Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it
seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going
on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our
corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys
(even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the
ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain
murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone
chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc
etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy
discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must
offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the
forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited
thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all
help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This
matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar
(152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted
their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a
different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar
& valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting
on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear
that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo
group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted
by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been
agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal
& in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e
JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related
to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views
immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so
please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4a. Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
Posted by: "sanjeev kathuria" sanjeev_kathuria05@yahoo.com sanjeev_kathuria05
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:08 am ((PDT))
Hi Freinds
Why to use word Assistant in our designation???at present our designtaion includes the word Assistant...but in Broadband section...we are hardly assisting any seniors(JTO,SDO etc)...infact we are doing A to Z work....infact sometimes our Seniors assists us for our work....so try to avoid this ASSISTANT word in our new designation....better options are either Junior Engg or EXECUTIVE Engineer....think for the second option....
Executive engg: An engineer which actually execute the work.
This is my personal wish only.....no offence to anyones' feeling.
SANJEEV KATHURIA
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: email13@gmail.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 3:15 PM
Dear Bandhan,
Nice to see urs efforts, you are grabing our choices, JET is best suitable as per my thinking but my second option is AEE (Assistant Executive Engineer)
Thanks,
Sudesh
TTA(Mktg)
Amritsar.
9417627676
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hi SNATTAians,
One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Poll is just created to get the Trend from the SNATTAians.
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our next DESTINATION...!!
"Junior Engineer JE" -
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission
>>> for example >> Junior Engineer Telecom or Junior Engineer Broadband
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission - "ENGINEER Er."
>>> for example >> Telecom Engineer or Broadband Engineer
"Telecom Support Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Rural/Urban/ Broadband/ Switch/Services/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom
Support Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Support Engineer (Switch)
"Telecom Service Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Urban/Broadband /Switch/Support/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Service Engineer (MDF)
"Service Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Service Engineer (Telecom) or Service Engineer (Broadband)
"Support Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example >> Support Engineer (Transmission) or Support Engineer (Switch)
the above poll link is http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/surveys? id=2308883 open it and Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers are designated as Junior Engineers.
The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that
they are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer so that the sanity prevails in them.
The above lines in green are not mine instead taken from http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/message/ 3019 these are said by our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST Suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), only if BSNLEU is adamant on Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators then Demand not less than EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided to change its Group-B
ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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5a. Re: regarding KENAN FX(comvers) installation in window XP, window v
Posted by: "Manoj Desai" manojndesai1@yahoo.in manojndesai1
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:08 am ((PDT))
you can call me on my number 9428677077 at palanpur i will guide you
MANOJ DESAI
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6a. Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
Posted by: "Rajkumar sengodan" ece.rajkumar@yahoo.com ece.rajkumar
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:08 am ((PDT))
hi
yes its true. nobody is there to support the newly recruited TTA,s as we are not getting any benefit. our basic pay is not good. there is no cadre difference in this pay fixation.
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:38 AM
hello santosh ji,
wht do u know abt pay fixation of 2007,2008 batch???
BSNLEU and snatta just playing games wid us...
if the TM ,RM and ToA had this situation as we are facing definatly bsnleu start agitation for there rights.
but nobody takes pain for TTA's .
--- On Thu, 15/7/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@ yahoo.in> wrote:
From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@ yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 8:33 PM
hallo mr.,
who has told you that TTA's of batch 2009 is ignored for fitment benefit.
at first be clear you'll be either of 2007 0r 2008 batch not of 2009 batch.
now , if you are aware from the latest movement then you've not right to ask such worthless message..... .......
see websites of BSNLEU, SNATTACHQ & SNATTA CTD.........
there is answer of your question.... .....
myself also from 2007 batch....... .....ok?? ?????????
santosh anand
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, "axeem2003" <axeem2003@.. .> wrote:
>
> I fail to understand why 2009 batch is being ignored while discussing for pay revision and fitment benefit application. Do these people think that this batch will never understand this trick ? or they think they are not worth to care for
>
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6b. Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:57 am ((PDT))
YES MY DEAR FRNDS...........
I KNOW THE INJUSTICE TOOK PLACE WITH TTA'S OF 2007 & 2008 BATCH......
I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU THAT BOTH BSNLEU & OUR SNATTA AROSE WITH A LITTLE LATE.......
BUT STILL HOPES ARE ALIVE............
LET'S WAIT FOR NCM TO BE CONDUCTED IN 4TH WEEK OF AUGUST..........
NOW SNATTACHQ HAS PUT TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON BSNLEUCHQ TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE..........
MEETING WITH BSNLEU WAS VERY HEALTHY............
STILL I DONT BELIEVE BLINDLY ON BSNLEU CHQ LEADERS.........BUT I BELIEVE ON MR. DHIRAJ JI & MR. DHAREMNDRA VERMA JI (BOTH ARE MEMBERS OF NCM).......................
NOW SNATTACHQ HAS RAISED THIS POINT STRONGLY...........
LET'S SEE THE REACTION OF BSNLEU.......
DEAR FRIENDS I AM ALSO FROM 2007 BATCH........SO I KNOW YOUR PAIN...............................
JUST 3 CIRCLES-TTA'S HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER REGARDING LOSS IN SALARY TO MANAGEMENT............
PLS. PUT MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LETTERS TO YOUR GM/FINANCE WITH ALL FACTS.......
YOU CAN FIND THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY ME ON FOLLOWING LINK....
http://www.snattactd.org/GMFINANCECTDBSNL.PDF
THNX,,,,,,,
SANTOSH ANAND
TTA/CTD
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7a. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "Jugal Kishor Nagar" jknagar_67@yahoo.com jknagar_67
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:09 am ((PDT))
Hats off to you sir for writing these lines to save BSNL otherwise everybody is
behind opposing the disinvestment and VRS. In my opinion these two factors
should be considered very much and be implemented as early as possible and as
you have rightly written otherwise the boat with sink with all of us on board.
Regards
________________________________
From: muralidharan muralidharan <ranjumd@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 18 July, 2010 9:28:55 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear Friend
With this big explanation, why you should not accept the Pitroda's proposal . I
am at Pitroda's side only.
A Muralidharan TTA
District President SNATTA Trichy SSA
Tamil Nadu
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@ gmail.com> wrote:
>From: vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@ gmail.com>
>Subject: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
>To: "ttabsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
>Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 3:16 PM
>
>
>
>AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
>
>Dear friends,
>Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and all
>the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that the BSNL
>was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss was balanced by
>the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake up to the
>situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the prescription
>prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we have to understand
>the problem in its correct perspective and start moving in correct direction to
>find the solution keeping in mind the interest of the organization and employees
>both.
>
>BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a typical
>Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political intervention and
>typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a great challenge for all
>of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages by changing our mindset and
>cultivating better work culture and also by fighting out some of the issues
>organizationally.
>
>Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact that
>any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number at the
>managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons. Our unions
>and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue and the sincere
>collective efforts were not made till the situation reached alarming proportion.
>We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and GM level are not ready to
>opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists or planned to man these posts
>in such an eventuality. Again the option is to hire hundreds of professionals
>for middle level management posts from outside market at market price (as
>suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee for board level) for a limited period of
>time so that BSNL recruits its own staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which
>is already bogged down by court cases. Our unions and Associations should demand
>contingency plan should be in place in such an eventuality and allow one time
>recruitment of managerial staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken
>this as a one point agenda at least five years back but the precious time is
>lost. Now also unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for
>pressurising that ITS absorption to be finalized.
>
>Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and started
>sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way is to
>offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember they are not
>thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through and also
>offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside the ship if
>oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks. There is no
>reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of us will be
>drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so that older
>people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
>
>Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt. policy.
>Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No. Are they
>not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such hue and cry
>as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not be understood.
>BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of offloading the share
>of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No body can stop this. By
>opposing we are only delaying the process and one day we will be compelled to
>allow this to happen when our stock value becomes low or a situation may come to
>sell this sick organization at a throw away price. Let us not commit that sin.
>Earlier we opposed unbundling of last mile and sharing of infrastructure now
>with the introduction of 3G and BWA no private operator may need our copper loop
>and thus we have lost the business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from
>this and should not commit same mistake again and again.
>
>Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but let
>us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union
>/Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive
>package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to run
>the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on the wrong
>issues and dig our own grave.
>Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal with
>any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my personal
>interest but for the interest of all of us.
>
>Thanking you.
>
>S. K. Hegde
>Sr. SDE BGTD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Vineeth Adolph
>Telecom Technical Assistant
>(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
>Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
>(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
>
>
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7b. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "kalyan kar" kalyan_7fru@yahoo.co.in kalyan_7fru
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:09 am ((PDT))
HI ALL
ALARMS ARE RINGING TIME TO WAKE UP
S kalyankartta,ndl+91-9000234484+91-9490484484
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com> wrote:
From: vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
To: "ttabsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 3:16 PM
AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear friends,
Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and all the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that the BSNL was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss was balanced by the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake up to the situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the prescription prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we have to understand the problem in its correct perspective and start moving in correct direction to find the solution keeping in mind the interest of the organization and employees both.
BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a typical Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political intervention and typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a great challenge for all of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages by changing our mindset and cultivating better work culture and also by fighting out some of the issues organizationally.
Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact that any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number at the managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons. Our unions and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue and the sincere collective efforts were not made till the situation reached alarming proportion. We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and GM level are not ready to opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists or planned to man these posts in such an eventuality. Again the option is to hire hundreds of professionals for middle level management posts from outside market at market price (as suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee for board level) for a limited period of time so that BSNL recruits its own staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which is already bogged down by court cases. Our unions and Associations should demand contingency plan
should be in place in such an eventuality and allow one time recruitment of managerial staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken this as a one point agenda at least five years back but the precious time is lost. Now also unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for pressurising that ITS absorption to be finalized.
Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and started sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way is to offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember they are not thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through and also offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside the ship if oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks. There is no reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of us will be drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so that older people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt. policy. Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No. Are they not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such hue and cry as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not be understood. BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of offloading the share of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No body can stop this. By opposing we are only delaying the process and one day we will be compelled to allow this to happen when our stock value becomes low or a situation may come to sell this sick organization at a throw away price. Let us not commit that sin. Earlier we opposed unbundling of last mile and sharing of infrastructure now with the introduction of 3G and BWA no private operator may need our copper loop and thus we have lost the business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from this and should not
commit same mistake again and again.
Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but let us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union /Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to run the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on the wrong issues and dig our own grave.
Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal with any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my personal interest but for the interest of all of us.
Thanking you.
S. K. Hegde
Sr. SDE BGTD
--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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7c. Great oppurtunity for Graduate engineers in Electronics n Telecomm a
Posted by: "CHANDAN KUMAR SAMAL" chandan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in chandan_bsnl
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:11 am ((PDT))
Hi
Dear friends
As many of you may be knowing that I had resigned from BSNL in order to join AAI
as Manager (Electronics) and presently undergoing ab-initio training at CATC,
Allahabad. Hope you people have not forgotten me.
AAI has again advertised for this post. It's a group A post having E-3 payscale
(Equivalent to Sr SDE in BSNL). for young people it can provide very good carrer
growth and you can retire as a GM at least. very good pay package but frequent
transfers.
for details log on to
aai.aero > carrers > online recruitment
or
airportsindia.org >carrers > online recruitment
This a life time oppurtunity as this organisation is very fond of people from
BSNL and they are going to give you better marks in interview as against there
own employees. Apply through proper channel and prepare well.
waiting for you here.
Best of Luck
Chandan Kumar Samal
Manager (Electronics), AAI
8005091876
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8a. Re: JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:09 am ((PDT))
dear vikas such a meaning discussion at this forum may lead some important
conclusion
Keep writing......
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
B S N L Newai
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell: +91-9413424883
gsrajawat@gmail.com
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From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
To: designationchange@gmail.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 19 July, 2010 2:13:11 PM
Subject: TTABSNL JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
Dear Sr Hakam and other friends,
I agree with Bandhan and all others who have voted for the designation change to
Junior Engineer(Telecom) and in fact Bandhan has very well elaborated in mail
for the reasons behind it.
Junior Engineer is the most recognizable designation that we can have and we
should not go for fancy and unrealistic demands.The BSNL management can give
only what has been given in others PSUs and I do not think it will experiment
much and try to create a sort of history by giving a fresh diploma an EXECUTIVE
ENGG post,there is no precedence of such thing in other departments or PSUs.If
we demand for so and so designation then we have to give them(management) proof
of existence of such designations in other PSUs.
Throught India various diploma engineer association have been fighting for
common scale and designation and common service condition for diploma
engineers.In Prasar Bharti they are called Engg Assistants,IOC calls the
Technician(recently they have changed to engg assistant on pressure of
unions/association,not agreeing to their demand for the JE desig),many state
departments call them Subordinate Assistant Engg(WBSEB,Orissa),still others call
then Overseer,some even recruit them at Junior Manager,Research
institutes(defence,universities,etc) recruit them at technical assistant,and
BSNL calls them TTA.
With a view to bringing uniformity and harmony in designation it will be just
and fair to demand that the existing designation for the cadre may immediately
be dispensed with and be substituted as JUNIOR ENGINEER. For maintaining parity
in the principle in force that whenever there remains an identity of all Degree
holder Engineers (as Assistant Engineer, Executive Engineer, Superintending
Engineer, Chief Engineer etc.) in any organization of the state or any where
outside even in sub-division level as Assistant Engineers, why there shall not
be similar uniform pattern of identity for the diploma engineers everywhere in
the state as JUNIOR ENGINEER ? Govt. of India has re-designated the post of
Sectional Officer in CPWD as Junior Engineer, vide Memo. No. 33/4/70-Adm IV
dated 17-10-1970 and advised all Chief Secretaries of State to take similar
action as regards with the post of Sectional Officers/Overseers/Sub-Assistant
Engineers or otherwise in the state too vide his letter No. 12029(1) dated
16-09-1971." All most all the States except West Bengal,Orissa,Bihar,CPWD,DOT
had since accepted the advice of the Govt. of India and the designation of the
Diploma Engineers has been renamed as JUNIOR ENGINEER.
Therefore, in BSNL,Telecom Technical Assistants have been and are being
deprived of having their status and prestige at par with all Junior Engineers
in respect of JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY as per proclamation of
the Constitution of India and our demand for "JUNIOR ENGINEER" designation is
being denied by the Govt. of India and now BSNL intentionally for more than a
decade.
The entire TTA (Diploma Engg)cadre is the victim of INJUSTICE, INEQUALITY,
SUBJECTION and ENMITY. The Diploma Engg are really the "BEAST OF THE BURDEN IN
THE DEPARTMENT" remarked by Hon'ble DAULAT HIGH POWER COMMISSION and it is an
established and proven fact as each DE acts in the role of a surveyor, a
planner, a designer, a supervisor, a clerk cum cashier, a messenger, a
custodian, an organizer, an estimator, an accountant and above all a manager and
what not ?
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
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8b. Re: JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:57 am ((PDT))
WOW!
Excellent MR. Vikas
Now i don't think that u have left any space for discussion on this matter.
Actually with the designation of JE or JE(T), we will not have to give any
explanation about our job profile to any one.
deepak kumar
9431610399
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From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
To: designationchange@gmail.com
Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 2:13:11 PM
Subject: TTABSNL JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
Dear Sr Hakam and other friends,
I agree with Bandhan and all others who have voted for the designation change to
Junior Engineer(Telecom) and in fact Bandhan has very well elaborated in mail
for the reasons behind it.
Junior Engineer is the most recognizable designation that we can have and we
should not go for fancy and unrealistic demands.The BSNL management can give
only what has been given in others PSUs and I do not think it will experiment
much and try to create a sort of history by giving a fresh diploma an EXECUTIVE
ENGG post,there is no precedence of such thing in other departments or PSUs.If
we demand for so and so designation then we have to give them(management) proof
of existence of such designations in other PSUs.
Throught India various diploma engineer association have been fighting for
common scale and designation and common service condition for diploma
engineers.In Prasar Bharti they are called Engg Assistants,IOC calls the
Technician(recently they have changed to engg assistant on pressure of
unions/association,not agreeing to their demand for the JE desig),many state
departments call them Subordinate Assistant Engg(WBSEB,Orissa),still others call
then Overseer,some even recruit them at Junior Manager,Research
institutes(defence,universities,etc) recruit them at technical assistant,and
BSNL calls them TTA.
With a view to bringing uniformity and harmony in designation it will be just
and fair to demand that the existing designation for the cadre may immediately
be dispensed with and be substituted as JUNIOR ENGINEER. For maintaining parity
in the principle in force that whenever there remains an identity of all Degree
holder Engineers (as Assistant Engineer, Executive Engineer, Superintending
Engineer, Chief Engineer etc.) in any organization of the state or any where
outside even in sub-division level as Assistant Engineers, why there shall not
be similar uniform pattern of identity for the diploma engineers everywhere in
the state as JUNIOR ENGINEER ? Govt. of India has re-designated the post of
Sectional Officer in CPWD as Junior Engineer, vide Memo. No. 33/4/70-Adm IV
dated 17-10-1970 and advised all Chief Secretaries of State to take similar
action as regards with the post of Sectional Officers/Overseers/Sub-Assistant
Engineers or otherwise in the state too vide his letter No. 12029(1) dated
16-09-1971." All most all the States except West Bengal,Orissa,Bihar,CPWD,DOT
had since accepted the advice of the Govt. of India and the designation of the
Diploma Engineers has been renamed as JUNIOR ENGINEER.
Therefore, in BSNL,Telecom Technical Assistants have been and are being deprived
of having their status and prestige at par with all Junior Engineers in respect
of JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY as per proclamation of the
Constitution of India and our demand for "JUNIOR ENGINEER" designation is being
denied by the Govt. of India and now BSNL intentionally for more than a decade.
The entire TTA (Diploma Engg)cadre is the victim of INJUSTICE, INEQUALITY,
SUBJECTION and ENMITY. The Diploma Engg are really the "BEAST OF THE BURDEN IN
THE DEPARTMENT" remarked by Hon'ble DAULAT HIGH POWER COMMISSION and it is an
established and proven fact as each DE acts in the role of a surveyor, a
planner, a designer, a supervisor, a clerk cum cashier, a messenger, a
custodian, an organizer, an estimator, an accountant and above all a manager and
what not ?
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
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9a. Re: Fwd: Designation change (Assistant Engineer (Telecom))
Posted by: "chudasama bhavin" cbhavin@yahoo.co.in cbhavin
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:50 am ((PDT))
nice suggestion paresh.
bhavin chudasama
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, paresh pipalia <paresh.pipalia@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: paresh pipalia <paresh.pipalia@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fwd: Designation change (Assistant Engineer (Telecom))
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 1:46 PM
I think Assistant Engineer (Telecom) is the better designation than Juniour Engineer (Telecom) bcoz it will keep us in Assistant domain and Engineering cadre as well.
PareshPipalia, TTA group exchg amreli(gujarat) ,
mo 9429223322
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10. Mutual from NE to Maharashtra Circle
Posted by: "mimi" riam27@gmail.com kim_singsit
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:55 am ((PDT))
Anyone willing for mutual transfer from NE to Maharashtra circle may kindly
mail me mentioning your SSA.
Regards
K. Singsit
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11. usb driver for CDMA fwt linktop model no. wf836f
Posted by: "rajani kartik" rajanikartik@yahoo.co.in rajanikartik
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:55 am ((PDT))
if anybody having usb driver (o.s windows xp) for cdma fwt linktop model no. wf836f, then please mail me.
thanks.
kartik rajani
Bhavnagar
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12. An appeal to TTA of Bihar circle
Posted by: "kumar bhupendra" kmr_bhupendra@yahoo.co.in kmr_bhupendra
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:56 am ((PDT))
Dear all,
To see at present cenario,it has been decided to organise circle conference on dated 25/07/2010(sunday)at patnacity telephone x'ge campus,
patna.The location of patnacity x'ge campus is opposite of GURUDWARA.So all
the TTAs of differents ssa of Bihar circle are requested to attened the conference and make it successful.Your suggestions are vital for us.It is
critical situation for TTAs in whole cenario in BSNL.So we have to come together on a suitable plateform and make discussion broadly.The conference will be in two session:-
1.- 9 a.m to 1 p.m - open session
2.- 2:30 p.m to 4:30 - formation of
new circle body.
3. 1 p.m to 2:30 - lunce time.
For more information pl. contact-
1. 9431046254 - ajay kr gond
2. 9431765037 - shrawan dubey
3. 9431094583 - shahnawaz.
thank you
BHUPENDRA KUMAR
cc,bihar,9431851900
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13. no need to fear RTI
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:57 am ((PDT))
Dear Surinder,
Untitled1
As per THE RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT, 2005 No. 22 of 2005,
"information" means any material in any form, including records, documents,
memos, e-mails, opinions, advices, press releases, circulars, orders, logbooks,
contracts, reports, papers, samples, models, data material held in any
electronic form
"record" includes—
(a) any document, manuscript and file;
(b) any microfilm, microfiche and facsimile copy of a document;
(c) any reproduction of image or images embodied in such microfilm (whether
enlarged or not); and
(d) any other material produced by a computer or any other device;
"right to information" means the right to information accessible under this Act
which is held by or under the control of any public authority and includes the
right to—
(i) inspection of work, documents, records;
(ii) taking notes, extracts or certified copies of documents or records;
(iii) taking certified samples of material;
(iv) obtaining information in the form of diskettes, floppies, tapes, video
cassettes or in any other electronic mode or through printouts where such
information is stored in a computer or in any other device;
The purpose of this act is to "secure access to information under the control of
public authorities, in order to promote transparency and accountability in the
working of every public authority" but it does not in any way intends to create
information.Only such information which do exist in any form can be provided to
the applicant.
You yourself have used this act to get various information in BSNL and you
must have a fairly good idea of drafting RTI applications so that it does not
get rejected by PIOs.Therefore you must understand that applications asking
for "WHY" are more likely to be rejected, like why my BB,landline,mobile,etc
has not been installed? why it is 4 for DOT opted and 8 for first pay
upgradation?etc etc are likely to be rejected but if you ask "WHAT" you will
get the desired information. What is rule for this or that? What is the
current status?
A JE may be made a custodian of an information sought by the RTI applicant but
he cannot be held responsible for the lapses of his seniors (JTO, SDEs).Every
type of report we generally supply to our officers in daily to daily work is
generated by the machine, computer,server,etc that do not need to be signed by
us as we do not prepare it manually and accuracy or inaccuracy of it depends
on the machine.
There is provision of fine if the information is not supplied within the
timeframe prescribed, or the information id forged, incomplete and out of
context but that too when the applicant move to appellate authorities. Anyway
the CPIO would be held responsible for the delay and fine if any would be
recovered from his salary and not from the custodians.
So no need to fear friends, even if a JE is made custodian there is no need to
worry as long as you stick to the time limits. Just send the reports, whatever
it be(do not manipulate, forge or send inaccurate or incomplete data to please
your bosses) to higher officers and be happy.
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
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14. BSNL unions ask for `18,500-cr 3G refund, threaten to strike
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:57 am ((PDT))
BSNL unions ask for `18,500-cr 3G refund, threaten to strikeNEW DELHI:
Asserting that it was forced to pay a whopping Rs 18,500 crore for 3G and
broadband spectrum, the employees associations of BSNL on Sunday asked the
government to refund the money and threatened to go on strike if the demand
was not met.
The Joint Action Committee (JAC), represented by three lakh executives and
non-executives of BSNL, has called a convention on Monday, demanding the
refund of the spectrum money as well as exempting the PSU from paying
licence fees on fixed lines, among other concessions. According to them,
BSNL was not given the option to bid and choose circles of its choice like
other private players. Rather, it was given spectrum for all the circles
barring Delhi and Mumbai (where another PSU, MTNL, got the radio waves) and
asked to match the winning bid.
The union is likely to call for a three-day sit-out strike from September 21
to register their protest in case the government fails to resolve the
issues. They will go on an indefinite strike in case the government fails to
meet their demands in totality within a reasonable timeframe.
�BSNL has been arbitrarily forced to pay on 3G and BWA airwaves in total
contravention of the provisions envisaged in National Telecom Policy, 1999.
Blatant discrimination meted out by insensitive and indifferent bureaucracy
in DoT to BSNL by depriving it of legitimate opportunity to bid for choice
of circles of commercial potential deserves strongest condemnation,�
representatives from the Sanchar Nigam Executive Association (SNEA), an
executive association of BSNL, said.
Earlier, telecom minister A Raja had asked finance minister Pranab Mukherjee
to refund the spectrum fee of over Rs 29,598 crore to BSNL and MTNL, citing
precedents and their social responsibility, including rural connectivity.
Mr Raja had emphasised that in terms of the New Telecom Policy, 1999, BSNL
(then DoT) was not required to pay an entry fee for Cellular Mobile
Licences, which were bundled with initial spectrum of 4.4 Mhz. BSNL was also
exempted from payment of 2G spectrum charges of Rs 1,650 crore in view of
its immense social and rural obligations. Besides the refund of spectrum
charges, the union also demanded that the BSNL management should get
complete freedom to decide and finalise its commercial and business policies
and procure equipment without any political or bureaucratic interference.
Other demands include absorption of ITS officers and compensation of BSNL
through a levy (known as Access Deficit Charge) to offset incredibly huge
losses it has incurred to meet its obligation of deploying infrastructure
and offering services in remote parts of the country at subsidised rates.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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15.1. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:58 am ((PDT))
Dear Surinder,
Why are you afraid of taking responsibilities? Then why are you trying to become a JTO or SDE? If you get the promotion then definitely you have to take more and more responsibilities.
You were frequently asking others to use RTI for each and everything. Do you think that replying to your RTIs were a funny job to the concerned officers? If you think replying to RTI is a worst one then why are you trying to make that officers life difficult? You need all the rules will be there to make your life so smooth and others a tough one. I am waiting for a day that you are replying to RTIs...
You said that if the word 'assistant' is there in a designation then that post cannot be made responsible for RTIs. If so then what about AE(Assistant Engineer) and AXE(Assistant Executive Engineer)?. There is the word 'assistant' but they are responsible for RTI. So if the profile of a post doesn't change then nothing to do with the responsibilities.
I fully support the views of Bandhan and Vikas. JE was SNATTA's one of the birth demand and it is a long time dream for us. It has a unique identity in the society. I request Hakam to go on with our already decided objective. Don't dilute it.
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 1:47 PM
Designation as Suggested by Mr Huda (TTA Chennai):
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) ,
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU)
may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Designation as Suggested by Me:
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (BB)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RSU)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (CCN)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RURAL)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (URBAN) etc.
Support staff can't be held responsible for any type of superios's Lapse as per the RTI Act Provisions but the SERVICE staff may be accountable for the Consumer Court cases as we are charging the service tax in the bills of any product of the BSNL services. Service staff may escape from the knife of RTI act also but for each and every time, they have to prevent theirs skins with written communications to their superiors (as court follows the written documents as by law) which will be surely lapsed by our fresh recruited friends.
So please have common discussions. .....
Comments from Mr Neeraj Gupta (UP) are urgently needed on this matter through this group please.
Surinder Mittal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designati on as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 12:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_
12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
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16. BSNL seeks refund of spectrum charges, writes to DoT
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:59 am ((PDT))
*BSNL seeks refund of spectrum charges, writes to DoT
*State-owned BSNL today said it has sought a refund of the Rs 18,500 crore
it paid for 3G and broadband spectrum and has written a letter to the
Department of Telecom (DoT) for the same. "We have written to the government
(DoT). We have not got any response from them yet," BSNL CMD Kuldeep Goyal
told reporters on the sidelines of a CII function.
BSNL, which offers telecom services across the country, except in Delhi and
Mumbai, had paid a whopping Rs 18,500 crore for 3G and Broadband Wireless
Access (BWA) spectrum.
The Joint Action Committee (JAC), represented by three lakh executives and
non-executives of BSNL, has called a convention today, demanding the refund
of the spectrum money, failing which the employees are likely to go on
strike.
"They (unions) have their own concerns. Unions are doing their bit. The
government's decision we have to await," he said.
Earlier, Telecom Minister A Raja had asked Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee
to refund the spectrum fee of over Rs 29,598 crore paid by BSNL and MTNL,
citing precedents and their social responsibility, including rural
connectivity.
Asked whether he has sought an extension of service, Goyal, who will retire
this month, said, "I have not asked for extension."
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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17. Latest News from www.SNATTA.org regarding HRMS NO.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:59 am ((PDT))
*Dt 20.07.2010**Management has order to retain the Old HRMS no. of the
DRTTAs selected as DRJTOs. Click here for
order.<http://snatta.org/news/DRTTA-JTO.pdf>
*
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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18. Critical Broadband Problem-Help
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:59 am ((PDT))
Hi Friends,
I have Critical problem in Broadband ADSL link-C-dot indicator. ADSL gone after 2 minutes.SNR stays between 8-10 in any condition. I have been done following tests for this problem.
(1) Modem checked-it found ok.
(2) Primary changed 4 times.
(3) Distribution pairs changed.
(4) Dislam port changed 3 times.
(5) Modem checked at Pillar.
(6) Given Primary of working stable broadband connection.
(7) C-Dot LCC card changed.
(8) C-Dot TEN changed.
(9) Changed indicator from C-Dot to OCB.
(10) What's Next?
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
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