Sunday, July 11, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1811

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. NIC U100 Problem
From: Hemant Sharma
1b. Re: NIC U100 Problem
From: bsnl_chd
1c. Re: NIC U100 Problem
From: Yasin Sindhi

2. Pay fixation of 2002 batch
From: Umesh Toshniwal

3a. regarding bond
From: raman gupta

4a. News from SNATTA Website.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

5a. Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before dut
From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN
5b. Re: Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before
From: muralidharan muralidharan
5c. Re: Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before
From: badedilwala

6a. Re: Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA
From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN
6b. Re: Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA
From: muralidharan muralidharan

7. Health Tip of the Day! Broccol
From: Bandhan.P.Singh


Messages
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1a. NIC U100 Problem
Posted by: "Hemant Sharma" heman_india12@yahoo.co.in heman_india12
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:20 am ((PDT))

Please tell me how to install USB NIC U100 in Window 7.

regards,
Hemant Sharma(BSNL)
07543209444
Ashoknagar(MP)

Messages in this topic (3)
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1b. Re: NIC U100 Problem
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:39 pm ((PDT))


hi hemant and all,

pls see below message link for driver

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/message/11649

one request to all pls search the group for relevant information before messaging for the repeated info which is already present in the group.

thanks.

Bandhan Preet Singh


--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, Hemant Sharma <heman_india12@...> wrote:
>
> Please tell me how to install USB NIC U100 in Window 7.
>
> regards,
> Hemant Sharma(BSNL)
> 07543209444
> Ashoknagar(MP)
>

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1c. Re: NIC U100 Problem
Posted by: "Yasin Sindhi" ygsindhi_mln@yahoo.co.in ygsindhi_mln
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:40 pm ((PDT))

Install it the driver manually after installing form Browser software from
CD....
 
Regards,
Er.Yasin Sindhi
BSC-WLL, PALANPUR (N.G.)
M: +919429361555

________________________________
From: Hemant Sharma <heman_india12@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTA Group <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 10 July, 2010 5:08:30 PM
Subject: TTABSNL NIC U100 Problem


Please tell me how to install USB NIC U100 in Window 7.

regards,
Hemant Sharma(BSNL)
07543209444
Ashoknagar(MP)

Messages in this topic (3)
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2. Pay fixation of 2002 batch
Posted by: "Umesh Toshniwal" utoshniwal_04@yahoo.co.in utoshniwal_04
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:24 am ((PDT))

Dear all,
In our SSA & probably in other SSA too, TTA of 2002 batch are fixed on basic Rs. 19530. Now I came to know that in Max. SSA the new basic is Rs.19540 for the same batch.
 
I found the reason & this is due to round off activity applied after increment. For this I contact to my AO(cash) but in reply he said that they make the right figure as per the round off activity  mentioned in the corporate letter received after wage agreement.
( In which any figure between 0 to 1 will be round off to 0 )
(For example: Rs. 10.25 will be round off to Rs. 10.00 in place of Rs. 20.00)  
 
This is making difference in above figure.As per wage agreement any figure above 0.00 will be round off to next multiple of ten so if anybody of the same batch is having payslip , fixation letter or any relavant doc. pls mail me or reply on below nos.

With Regards,

Umesh Toshniwal
BSNL,Chittorgarh(Raj.)
01472-203122,9461392111

Messages in this topic (1)
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3a. regarding bond
Posted by: "raman gupta" rg_jandial@yahoo.co.in rg_jandial
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))

kind tell me the proper period of band of the driectly recuited tta in bsnl

Messages in this topic (2)
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4a. News from SNATTA Website.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))

* Dt 09.07.2010**SLP filed by BSNL officers Association (TTAs offcg. as
JTOs) in Hon. Supreme court of India against the order of Hon. High Court of
Punjab and Haryana is posted on 12th July, 2010.*

* Dt 09.07.2010**Special recruitment drive to fill backlog vacancies in TTA
cadre for SC/ST/OBC candidates. Click here for
order.<http://snatta.org/news/jtosrd1.pdf>
*


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (2)
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________________________________________________________________________
5a. Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before dut
Posted by: "DINKAR NATH NARAIN" dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in dnath_2006
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

Dear our Intelligent TTA Friends,
 
Any one know about Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties / Over time
duties of Non Executive staff like TTA’s after or before duty hours 10:00 to
17:30. Kindly attach documents about claim as following conditions: -----
1.                 Can an executive take extra duties other than 10:00 to 17:30
hrs?  If yes, what is ruling about counting of extra hours done by a non
executive staff and how he claim it in the form of money or leave as per BSNL
rule or Labor Rules of Govt. of India.
2.                 How many extra hours done by a staff claim for one day leave.
3.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for local or
within 8 Km indoor or out door duties.
4.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for more than 8 Km
indoor or out door duties. In this regards a staff claim T.A. or leave for extra
hrs duties done or both.

5.                 What claim of leaves / payments against a T/H if a staff
doing 4 hrs or 7 and ½ hrs duty ?        
 
 
 
Yours truly,
Dinkar Nath Narain
TTA, Jalandhar.

Messages in this topic (3)
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5b. Re: Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:42 pm ((PDT))

 Add one more question Dinakar
6. What is night duty hours and timing pl?
A Muralidharan TTA
District Precident SNATTA Trichy  SSA
Tamil Nadu


--- On Sat, 10/7/10, DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before duty hours 10:00 to 17:30
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, 10 July, 2010, 9:22 PM

 






Dear our Intelligent TTA Friends,
 
Any one know about Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties / Over time duties of Non Executive staff like TTA’s after or before duty hours 10:00 to 17:30. Kindly attach documents about claim as following conditions: -----
1.                 Can an executive take extra duties other than 10:00 to 17:30 hrs?  If yes, what is ruling about counting of extra hours done by a non executive staff and how he claim it in the form of money or leave as per BSNL rule or Labor Rules of Govt. of India.
2.                 How many extra hours done by a staff claim for one day leave.
3.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for local or within 8 Km indoor or out door duties.
4.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for more than 8 Km indoor or out door duties. In this regards a staff claim T.A. or leave for extra hrs duties done or both.
5.                 What claim of leaves / payments against a T/H if a staff doing 4 hrs or 7 and ½ hrs duty ?        
 
 
 
Yours truly,
Dinkar Nath Narain
TTA, Jalandhar.
 





Messages in this topic (3)
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5c. Re: Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before
Posted by: "badedilwala" badedilwala_india@yahoo.com badedilwala_india
Date: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:29 am ((PDT))

Hi Friends,
               I m in Broadband section outdoor and i m working 40-50 hours/month (Withinn city area)  more duty after working hours..Any Compensations for extra duties????

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, muralidharan muralidharan <ranjumd@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: muralidharan muralidharan <ranjumd@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before duty hours 10:00 to 17:30
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 July, 2010, 10:25 AM


 

 Add one more question Dinakar
6. What is night duty hours and timing pl?
A Muralidharan TTA
District Precident SNATTA Trichy  SSA
Tamil Nadu


--- On Sat, 10/7/10, DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties after or before duty hours 10:00 to 17:30
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Cc: snattachq@gmail. com
Date: Saturday, 10 July, 2010, 9:22 PM


 


Dear our Intelligent TTA Friends,
 
Any one know about Rulings for compensations regarding extra duties / Over time duties of Non Executive staff like TTA’s after or before duty hours 10:00 to 17:30. Kindly attach documents about claim as following conditions: -----
1.                 Can an executive take extra duties other than 10:00 to 17:30 hrs?  If yes, what is ruling about counting of extra hours done by a non executive staff and how he claim it in the form of money or leave as per BSNL rule or Labor Rules of Govt. of India.
2.                 How many extra hours done by a staff claim for one day leave.
3.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for local or within 8 Km indoor or out door duties.
4.                 Claim for leave against extra hours duties for more than 8 Km indoor or out door duties. In this regards a staff claim T.A. or leave for extra hrs duties done or both.
5.                 What claim of leaves / payments against a T/H if a staff doing 4 hrs or 7 and ½ hrs duty ?        
 
 
 
Yours truly,
Dinkar Nath Narain
TTA, Jalandhar.
 


Messages in this topic (3)
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________________________________________________________________________
6a. Re: Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA
Posted by: "DINKAR NATH NARAIN" dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in dnath_2006
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

Dear Top Leaders and Vikash ji,
Yours point no 2 as 2.Get registered SNATTA as a TRADE UNION under Indian Trade
Union Act 

is very effective and most necessary for a better future of TTA cadar in BSNL
Because both leading unions are cheating only.
again very very good Vikash.......................

________________________________
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 7 July, 2010 10:56:15 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA


Dear Dharmendra and all friends,

   

    Your decision to withdraw membership from BSNLEU was appreciated from one
and all in SNATTA,but couple of days later you gave a call to withhold the
withdrawl call till further clarification,that was really a shocker.Many friends
hailed your decision as right step in the right direction though taken very
late,but you and your coterie of short sighted advisers failed to realize the
repercussions of the hasty decision of withholding the first call.

     Time and again myself as well as many of the members have pointed that its
high time we should stand tall on our feet but we were criticized for creating
rift between the association and members who have got divided between the BSNLEU
and SNATTA by virtue of provision of dual membership.There are very few in the
association who are not associated with BSNLEU or any other
union,NFTE,TEPU,FNTO,SEWA,BMS,....they have filled the form and contributing
monthly towards their kitty which should have rightfully gone to the SNATTA
account.

    I would like to give some advice and would like a healthy discussion on
these topics in Yahoogroup itself as it is not possible for everyone to attend
the AIC and speak their mind.In this forum atleast we  have 2000 registered
members who regularily check their inbox,though all are not writing long
speeches.

1.First and foremost SCRAP DUAL MEMBERSHIP provision from the constitution of
SNATTA.

2.Get registered SNATTA as a TRADE UNION under Indian Trade Union Act,which
would give us a separate identity and help us contributing monthly subscription
fees towards our own account.
There is no question of contributing towrds building fund etc.We should talk to
BSNLEU CHQ to share the contribution of all the TTAs on its roll who have till
now contributed to its kitty.This can be done before the verification and
process should start immediately once decision is taken.


3.Withdraw membership from other unions immediately,these may result in loss of
the office for many DRTTAs who have accepted a post with
BSNLEU,NFTE,SEWABSNL,TEPU.I remember many friend who are
ACS,DS,Treasurers,Organising Secy with diff unions.They will oppose this
proposal but this would be a litmus test of their integrity and commitment.


4.Support BSNLEU or any other unions on case to case basis.SNATTA has not
married BSNEU for life time,Its just a contract marriage and one is free to
chose ones course of action and direction if the individual's demand are not
fulfilled,because this marriage was not made in heaven.

5.There are many among our friends who were more qualified than the post
demanded or many have acquired higher qualifications after joining,something
should be done for them also so that their hard earned qualification do not
remain in bookshelves gathering dust.We fear that this would create a rift
between the Diploma and Degree holders but we should see the other side of coin
also,if the management agrees to give weight age to higher qualification in
promotions then more friends would be tempted to acquire the same,qualified
officials should not suffer at the cost of others as they are also a member of
SNATTA and its duty of the association to look for their career growth also.

6 The decisions and functioning of SNATTA has remained very undemocratic from
the time of its inception.Central Coordinators,CSs ,CPs are not taken into
confidence on big as well as small issues,informations are not shared and they
are expected to convince the fellow members when they themselves are not
convinced,in short CEC is not functioning efficiently.CEC itself is not aware of
the decisions of CHQ.
Feedback from grass root levels and state unit should be taken into
consideration while arriving at any final conclusion.

7.Intruct the State units and district Units ti hold induction meeting for the
new TTAs to educate them about SNATTA its role in making their life better in
BSNL.


8.Hold AIC a litlle earlier maybe in August.Before that invite expression of
interest from both the big alliance,BSNLEU and NFTE as what they can do for our
charter of demands,if we support them in coming verification,this will make it a
lot easier to decide with whom to go.But the agreement and discussion process
should be very transparent whoever is chosen to negotiate should take an
unbiased approach.


    We can understand the strength of our cadre from the very fact that mere
threatening gave us two items included in the National Council Meeting,if we
could have remained firm on our stand of withdrawing membership then that might
have got some concrete results,may be issue of JTO LDCE or higher pay for new
recruits would have been sorted out.The management as well as unions are  least
bothered to get the stay vacated.


Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511

Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
6b. Re: Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:42 pm ((PDT))

I am also with you Dinakar.
They were cheating, are cheating and will be cheating .
For a better future of TTA cadar in BSNL,  union of our own is a must. ( with out any old or new tta groups .it should be of one bunch,  without any difference )
A Muralidharan TTA
District Precident SNATTA Trichy  SSA
Tamil Nadu


--- On Sat, 10/7/10, DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN <dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, 10 July, 2010, 9:33 PM

 





Dear Top Leaders and Vikash ji,
Yours point no 2 as 2.Get registered SNATTA as a TRADE UNION under Indian Trade Union Act 
is very effective and most necessary for a better future of TTA cadar in BSNL Because both leading unions are cheating only.
again very very good Vikash...... ......... ........


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wed, 7 July, 2010 10:56:15 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Reg issues relating to functioning of SNATTA

 
Dear Dharmendra and all friends,

   

    Your decision to withdraw membership from BSNLEU was appreciated from one and all in SNATTA,but couple of days later you gave a call to withhold the withdrawl call till further clarification, that was really a shocker.Many friends hailed your decision as right step in the right direction though taken very late,but you and your coterie of short sighted advisers failed to realize the repercussions of the hasty decision of withholding the first call.


     Time and again myself as well as many of the members have pointed that its high time we should stand tall on our feet but we were criticized for creating rift between the association and members who have got divided between the BSNLEU and SNATTA by virtue of provision of dual membership.There are very few in the association who are not associated with BSNLEU or any other union,NFTE,TEPU, FNTO,SEWA, BMS,....they have filled the form and contributing monthly towards their kitty which should have rightfully gone to the SNATTA account.


    I would like to give some advice and would like a healthy discussion on these topics in Yahoogroup itself as it is not possible for everyone to attend the AIC and speak their mind.In this forum atleast we  have 2000 registered members who regularily check their inbox,though all are not writing long speeches.


1.First and foremost SCRAP DUAL MEMBERSHIP provision from the constitution of SNATTA.


2.Get registered SNATTA as a TRADE UNION under Indian Trade Union Act,which would give us a separate identity and help us contributing monthly subscription fees towards our own account.
There is no question of contributing towrds building fund etc.We should talk to BSNLEU CHQ to share the contribution of all the TTAs on its roll who have till now contributed to its kitty.This can be done before the verification and process should start immediately once decision is taken.

3.Withdraw membership from other unions immediately,these may result in loss of the office for many DRTTAs who have accepted a post with BSNLEU,NFTE, SEWABSNL, TEPU.I remember many friend who are ACS,DS,Treasurers, Organising Secy with diff unions.They will oppose this proposal but this would be a litmus test of their integrity and commitment.

4.Support BSNLEU or any other unions on case to case basis.SNATTA has not married BSNEU for life time,Its just a contract marriage and one is free to chose ones course of action and direction if the individual's demand are not fulfilled,because this marriage was not made in heaven.


5.There are many among our friends who were more qualified than the post demanded or many have acquired higher qualifications after joining,something should be done for them also so that their hard earned qualification do not remain in bookshelves gathering dust.We fear that this would create a rift between the Diploma and Degree holders but we should see the other side of coin also,if the management agrees to give weight age to higher qualification in promotions then more friends would be tempted to acquire the same,qualified officials should not suffer at the cost of others as they are also a member of SNATTA and its duty of the association to look for their career growth also.


6 The decisions and functioning of SNATTA has remained very undemocratic from the time of its inception.Central Coordinators, CSs ,CPs are not taken into confidence on big as well as small issues,informations are not shared and they are expected to convince the fellow members when they themselves are not convinced,in short CEC is not functioning efficiently. CEC itself is not aware of the decisions of CHQ.
Feedback from grass root levels and state unit should be taken into consideration while arriving at any final conclusion.


7.Intruct the State units and district Units ti hold induction meeting for the new TTAs to educate them about SNATTA its role in making their life better in BSNL.

8.Hold AIC a litlle earlier maybe in August.Before that invite expression of interest from both the big alliance,BSNLEU and NFTE as what they can do for our charter of demands,if we support them in coming verification, this will make it a lot easier to decide with whom to go.But the agreement and discussion process should be very transparent whoever is chosen to negotiate should take an unbiased approach.

    We can understand the strength of our cadre from the very fact that mere threatening gave us two items included in the National Council Meeting,if we could have remained firm on our stand of withdrawing membership then that might have got some concrete results,may be issue of JTO LDCE or higher pay for new recruits would have been sorted out.The management as well as unions are  least bothered to get the stay vacated.


Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511





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7. Health Tip of the Day! Broccol
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:29 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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