Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: FREE VAS OVER BROADBAND
From: bsnl_chd
2.1. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
2.2. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
From: Pinak Das
2.3. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr H
From: Deepak Kumar
2.4. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr H
From: Jayant Singh
2.5. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
3.1. KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
From: surinder mittal
3.2. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
From: shamsul huda
3.3. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
From: Sukhjiwan Singh
3.4. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
From: muralidharan muralidharan
4a. AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
From: vineeth adolph
4b. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
From: muralidharan muralidharan
4c. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
From: G S Rajawat
4d. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4e. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
From: Deepak Kumar
5. Mutual transfer BIHAR TO JHARKHAND.
From: arun kumar singh
6. One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7a. Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTA
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7b. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
From: chudasama bhavin
8. Dengue Treatment: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
9a. Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
From: LOVELY KOUNDAL
10. designation change
From: alagu pandia raja
11. designation change..
From: rama krishna
12. JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA
13. Dear Manish ,regarding Building fund
From: lucky_nagaur
Messages
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1a. Re: FREE VAS OVER BROADBAND
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:24 am ((PDT))
hi..
thanks sudesh for providing us on group such a useful updates on group. pls send me all new plans , schemes, discounts or offers on my below mail IDs
email13@gmail.com or bandhu13@yahoo.com
anybody having any updates about BSNL Products and Services may email me personally also.
thanks again.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@...> wrote:
>
> BSNL is offering VAS like Game on Demand for two months & Music on Demand for one month to all new Broadband customers. For details see attachment,
> : Sudesh Kt. Bhardwaj,
> TTA (Mktg)
> Amritsar.
>
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2.1. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:25 am ((PDT))
hi..
there is always a difference of opinions among equals.
sorry surinder and Huda ji.. in my personal view *Junior Engineer*
(JE) or *Junior
Engineer Telecom* (JET) is most apt for TTAs as its the most widely used and
recognised Designation in India. Pls read my previous mails for more
details. i am only objecting the word executive for Operators.
When CHQ decided to get us *Junior Engineer* then they must have given a
deep thought over it. so pls wisely suggest the Designation.if any body has
good suggestion then he is welcome. everyone has its own opinion and we have
to respect it...* i don't think that Group C can be made scapegoat. and why
we are worrying much abt this RTI issue* ..we are tomorrow's JTO or may be
Assistant Manager even then we have to be responsible for RTI queries. Can
we run away from it then.?
Dear Hakam don't get emotional about rank.. but take your time to decide
best for us including worries of RTI. Good Luck to you.
regards,
Bandhan
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, surinder mittal <
mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:.
>
>
> Excellent Mr Huda.....
>
> These are the designations which i m looking for....
>
> Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda
> are the excellent.....it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
> related to RTI Act.
>
>
> Surinder Mittal
>
> --- On *Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
> To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo.com>, designationchange@gmail.com,
> "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any
> better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering
> our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
>
> Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER.
> Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So '
> TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB), TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be
> better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if
> we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
>
> Regards,
> SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
>
> --- On *Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
> To: ak_hello@yahoo.co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>, "bihari" <
> bn9676@yahoo.co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo.co.in, bsnlletters@yahoo.com,
> dev_c2000@yahoo.com, dev2006@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com, "vishnu goyal"
> <goyalvishnu_2000@yahoo.co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shamsul
> huda" <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>, jatinder261@gmail.com,
> jtocc@rediffmail.com, jyoti786@rediffmail.com, maansaha@yahoo.com,
> mathavakutti@yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com,
> naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in, navdeepamb@yahoo.co.in,
> naveen.mehta@ambujacement.com, neeraj_udsc@yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo.com,
> pankajnpatil@yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@yahoo.co.in,
> sampad_swain2002@yahoo.co.in, sandeep_bsnl123@yahoo.com,
> sandip4net@yahoo.co.in, sandipkmodi@rediffmail.com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <
> rakesh_sehgal75@yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@rediffmail.com,
> shailly1979@gmail.com, shyampathak55@gmail.com, sidheshgauns@yahoo.com,
> sjd_4u@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya_12@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya12@gmail.com,
> successlalu@yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@yahoo.co.uk>,
> tta5year@yahoogroups.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, "vinod yadav" <
> vinoyadav@gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>*wrote:
>
> From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
> Subject: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: mittals3@yahoo.com, ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
>
> Dear all Friends....
>
> it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
> discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to
> all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life
> as our court cases will be.
>
> None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got
> finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will
> be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation
> ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya
> etc etc).
>
> Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr.
> Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest
> help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the
> designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can
> become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the
> widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to
> us.
>
> i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and
> healthy discussion.
>
> so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
>
>
> Comments Welcomed as Always.....
>
> Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>
> Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
> Punjab Telecom Circle
> Abohar (152116)
> Reachable @ 09417583939
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <
> circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
> Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com,
> email13@gmail.com
> Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>
>
> *Dear Friends,*
> First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their
> views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different
> views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable
> suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but
> bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on
> 29/6/2010 , *NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME*. If you read again my mail to yahoogroup on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU
> on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting
> of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have
> also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear
> bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature
> on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting ,
> so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
> gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable
> suggestions.
> any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all
> members that please give your valuable suggestions *OTHERWISE THERE WILL
> BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION*.We
> should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE
> COMMITTEE.
> *WITH REGARDS,*
> *HAKAM SINGH,*
> *CS-SNATTA-PB,*
> *09417277177.*
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <
> circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
> Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com,
> email13@gmail.com
> Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>
>
>
> *Dear Friends,*
> First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their
> views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different
> views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable
> suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but
> bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on
> 29/6/2010 , *NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME*. If you read again my mail to yahoo
> group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU
> on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting
> of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have
> also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear
> bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature
> on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting ,
> so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
> gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=designationchange@gmail.com> , please dont
> wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
> any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all
> members that please give your valuable suggestions *OTHERWISE THERE WILL
> BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION*.We
> should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE
> COMMITTEE.
> *WITH REGARDS,*
> *HAKAM SINGH,*
> *CS-SNATTA-PB,*
> *09417277177.*
> * *
>
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
Messages in this topic (27)
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2.2. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
Posted by: "Pinak Das" pinakdas123@yahoo.co.in pinakdas123
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:55 am ((PDT))
I am totally agree with Mr. Huda, We should pressurize Management for better Degination for us. I think the word ASSISTANT & JUNIOR should be left aside or should be replaced with SERVICE ENGINEER or FIELD ENGINEER.
ER.PINAK DAS,SHILLONG, 9436109780.
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 7:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind
Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda
are the excellent.....it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo.com>, designationchange@gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us
any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation
considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name
ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU
maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB), TELECOM SERVICE
ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It
is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will
be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo.co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo.co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo.co.in, bsnlletters@yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo.com, dev2006@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_2000@yahoo.co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>, jatinder261@gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail.com, jyoti786@rediffmail.com, maansaha@yahoo.com, mathavakutti@yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in, navdeepamb@yahoo.co.in, naveen.mehta@ambujacement.com, neeraj_udsc@yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo.com, pankajnpatil@yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@yahoo.co.in, sampad_swain2002@yahoo.co.in, sandeep_bsnl123@yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo.co.in,
sandipkmodi@rediffmail.com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@rediffmail.com, shailly1979@gmail.com, shyampathak55@gmail.com, sidheshgauns@yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya_12@yahoo.com, sonalmalviya12@gmail.com, successlalu@yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@yahoo.co.uk>, tta5year@yahoogroups.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING.....Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo.com, ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it
seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going
on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our
corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys
(even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the
ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain
murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone
chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc
etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy
discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must
offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the
forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited
thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all
help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This
matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar
(152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted
their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a
different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar
& valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting
on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear
that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo
group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted
by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been
agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal
& in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e
JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related
to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views
immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail.com>, snattapunjab@gmail.com, email13@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so
please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
Messages in this topic (27)
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2.3. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr H
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:10 pm ((PDT))
very well said dear bandhan
JE or JE(T) is the most suitable designation for us and only because the fear of
RTI we should not let it go. actually at present we r not
the signatory authority and mere change in designation is not going to make us
Executives.
one more thing, the word executive is there in the designation of non-executives
also in private companies. mere this word in the designation doesn't make any
one Executive as a cadre but it gives the face lift of the employee and company
too.
Actually the technical cadre in BSNL has been discriminated since long on all
the platform due to their less presence on the union platform. how does any
union accept RM (regular mazdoor) as a designation to its permanent staff?
how demoralizing this designation is? there are Telecom Mechanics as a
designation and we r suffering with this damn TTA. And on other hand the
clerical cadre got Sr.TOA. they got themselves the word SENIOR in their
designation. they got respect for themselves and deprived the same to others.
now again the issue of designation change was first raised by SNATTA and has
been hijacked for the change in designation for all. all other cadre was quite
content with their designation even old TTAs had not raised this issue. but
seeing that we r going for the change they involve themselves.
i again request to MR. Hakam singh ji to just go for the JE or JE(T) without
fearing for the RTI.
deepak kumar
9431610399
________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 1:31:29 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by
Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
hi..
there is always a difference of opinions among equals.
sorry surinder and Huda ji.. in my personal view Junior Engineer (JE) or Junior
Engineer Telecom (JET) is most apt for TTAs as its the most widely used and
recognised Designation in India. Pls read my previous mails for more details. i
am only objecting the word executive for Operators.
When CHQ decided to get us Junior Engineer then they must have given a deep
thought over it. so pls wisely suggest the Designation. if any body has good
suggestion then he is welcome. everyone has its own opinion and we have to
respect it...i don't think that Group C can be made scapegoat. and why we are
worrying much abt this RTI issue ..we are tomorrow's JTO or may be Assistant
Manager even then we have to be responsible for RTI queries. Can we run away
from it then.?
Dear Hakam don't get emotional about rank.. but take your time to decide best
for us including worries of RTI. Good Luck to you.
regards,
Bandhan
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
wrote:.
>Excellent Mr Huda.....
>
>These are the designations which i m looking for....
>
>Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are
>the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to
>RTI Act.
>
>
>Surinder Mittal
>
>--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA"
><ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
>Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
>
>
>Dear Friends,
>
> It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better.
>But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior
>TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
>
>Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our
>jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM
>SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please
>cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO,
>SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
>
>Regards,
>SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
>
>--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari"
><bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com,
>dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal"
><goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda"
><huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com,
>jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com,
>mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo.
>co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo.
>com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@
>yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@
>rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@
>rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@
>yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_ 12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@
>gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>,
>tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav"
><vinoyadav@gmail. com>
>Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
>
>
>
>--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
>Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
>
>Dear all Friends....
>
>it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
>discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all
>of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our
>court cases will be.
>
>None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in
>the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur
>from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo
>hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
>
>Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam
>Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to
>make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation
>change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK
>TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking
>support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
>
>i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy
>discussion.
>
>so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
>
>
>Comments Welcomed as Always.....
>
>Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>
>Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
>Punjab Telecom Circle
>Abohar (152116)
>Reachable @ 09417583939
>
>
>--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj
>ab@gmail. com> wrote:
>
>From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
>Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com,
>email13@gmail. com
>Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>
>
>Dear Friends,
>First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views
>regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with
>full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our
>bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to
>your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS
>AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding
>detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very
>clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just
>submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of
>snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point
>related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
>today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if
>again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait
>such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
>any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members
>that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF
>SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final
>point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
>WITH REGARDS,
>HAKAM SINGH,
>CS-SNATTA-PB,
>09417277177.
>
>
>
>--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj
>ab@gmail. com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
>>Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com,
>>email13@gmail. com
>>Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Friends,
>>First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views
>>regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with
>>full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our
>>bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to
>>your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS
>>AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding
>>detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very
>>clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just
>>submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of
>>snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point
>>related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
>>today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if
>>again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait
>>such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
>>any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members
>>that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF
>>SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final
>>point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
>>WITH REGARDS,
>>HAKAM SINGH,
>>CS-SNATTA-PB,
>>09417277177.
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
2.4. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr H
Posted by: "Jayant Singh" jayantsingh_bsnl@yahoo.co.in jayantsingh_bsnl
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:11 pm ((PDT))
je or jet only.
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 8:01 AM
hi..
there is always a difference of opinions among equals.
sorry surinder and Huda ji.. in my personal view Junior Engineer (JE) or Junior Engineer Telecom (JET) is most apt for TTAs as its the most widely used and recognised Designation in India. Pls read my previous mails for more details. i am only objecting the word executive for Operators.
When CHQ decided to get us Junior Engineer then they must have given a deep thought over it. so pls wisely suggest the Designation. if any body has good suggestion then he is welcome. everyone has its own opinion and we have to respect it... i don't think that Group C can be made scapegoat. and why we are worrying much abt this RTI issue ..we are tomorrow's JTO or may be Assistant Manager even then we have to be responsible for RTI queries. Can we run away from it then.?
Dear Hakam don't get emotional about rank.. but take your time to decide best for us including worries of RTI. Good Luck to you.
regards,
Bandhan
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:.
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_
12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
2.5. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Hu
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:00 am ((PDT))
a very deep analysis deep kumar... keep it up.. people like u made us proud
by ur rational thinking.
bandhan
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> very well said dear bandhan
> JE or JE(T) is the most suitable designation for us and only because the
> fear of RTI we should not let it go. actually at present we r not
> the signatory authority and mere change in designation is not going to make
> us Executives.
>
> one more thing, the word executive is there in the designation of
> non-executives also in private companies. mere this word in the
> designation doesn't make any one Executive as a cadre but it gives the face
> lift of the employee and company too.
>
> Actually the technical cadre in BSNL has been discriminated since long on
> all the platform due to their less presence on the union platform. how does
> any union accept RM (regular mazdoor) as a designation to its permanent
> staff? how demoralizing this designation is? there are Telecom Mechanics as
> a designation and we r suffering with this damn TTA. And on other hand the
> clerical cadre got Sr.TOA. they got themselves the word SENIOR in their
> designation. they got respect for themselves and deprived the same to
> others.
>
> now again the issue of designation change was first raised by SNATTA and
> has been hijacked for the change in designation for all. all other cadre was
> quite content with their designation even old TTAs had not raised this
> issue. but seeing that we r going for the change they involve themselves.
>
> i again request to MR. Hakam singh ji to just go for the JE or JE(T)
> without fearing for the RTI.
>
> deepak kumar
> 9431610399
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sun, July 18, 2010 1:31:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as
> suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
>
>
>
> hi..
> there is always a difference of opinions among equals.
>
> sorry surinder and Huda ji.. in my personal view *Junior Engineer* (JE) or
> *Junior Engineer Telecom* (JET) is most apt for TTAs as its the most
> widely used and recognised Designation in India. Pls read my previous mails
> for more details. i am only objecting the word executive for Operators.
>
> When CHQ decided to get us *Junior Engineer* then they must have given a
> deep thought over it. so pls wisely suggest the Designation. if any body has
> good suggestion then he is welcome. everyone has its own opinion and we have
> to respect it...* i don't think that Group C can be made scapegoat. and
> why we are worrying much abt this RTI issue* ..we are tomorrow's JTO or
> may be Assistant Manager even then we have to be responsible for RTI
> queries. Can we run away from it then.?
>
> Dear Hakam don't get emotional about rank.. but take your time to decide
> best for us including worries of RTI. Good Luck to you.
>
> regards,
> Bandhan
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@
> yahoo.com <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>> wrote:.
>
>>
>>
>> Excellent Mr Huda.....
>>
>> These are the designations which i m looking for....
>>
>> Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr
>> Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
>> related to RTI Act.
>>
>>
>> Surinder Mittal
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com<huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com <huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>> To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com <mittals3@yahoo.com>>, designationchange@
>> gmail.com <designationchange@gmail.com>, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups
>> .com <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>>
>> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any
>> better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering
>> our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
>>
>> Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER.
>> Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So '
>> TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be
>> better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if
>> we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com <mittals3@yahoo.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com <mittals3@yahoo.com>>
>> Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>> To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in <ak_hello@yahoo.co.in>, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo.
>> co.in <bsen_77@yahoo.co.in>>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in<bn9676@yahoo.co.in>>,
>> bpskkp@yahoo. co.in <bpskkp@yahoo.co.in>, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com<bsnlletters@yahoo.com>,
>> dev_c2000@yahoo. com <dev_c2000@yahoo.com>, dev2006@gmail. com<dev2006@gmail.com>,
>> email13@gmail. com <email13@gmail.com>, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_
>> 2000@yahoo. co.in <goyalvishnu_2000@yahoo.co.in>>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo.
>> co.in <hem_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com<huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com>>,
>> jatinder261@ gmail.com <jatinder261@gmail.com>, jtocc@rediffmail. com<jtocc@rediffmail.com>,
>> jyoti786@rediffmail .com <jyoti786@rediffmail.com>, maansaha@yahoo. com<maansaha@yahoo.com>,
>> mathavakutti@ yahoo.com <mathavakutti@yahoo.com>, mittals3_surinder@
>> yahoo.com <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in<naresh1654_bgarh@yahoo.co.in>,
>> navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in <navdeepamb@yahoo.co.in>, naveen.mehta@
>> ambujacement. com <naveen.mehta@ambujacement.com>, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com<neeraj_udsc@yahoo.com>,
>> nk28ahuja@yahoo. com <nk28ahuja@yahoo.com>, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com<pankajnpatil@yahoo.com>,
>> rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in <rajendrabsnl@yahoo.co.in>, sampad_swain2002@
>> yahoo.co. in <sampad_swain2002@yahoo.co.in>, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com<sandeep_bsnl123@yahoo.com>,
>> sandip4net@yahoo. co.in <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>, sandipkmodi@
>> rediffmail. com <sandipkmodi@rediffmail.com>, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@
>> yahoo.com <rakesh_sehgal75@yahoo.com>>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com<shailesh_dhande@rediffmail.com>,
>> shailly1979@ gmail.com <shailly1979@gmail.com>, shyampathak55@ gmail.com<shyampathak55@gmail.com>,
>> sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com <sidheshgauns@yahoo.com>, sjd_4u@yahoo. com<sjd_4u@yahoo.com>,
>> sonalmalviya_ 12@yahoo. com <sonalmalviya_12@yahoo.com>, sonalmalviya12@
>> gmail.com <sonalmalviya12@gmail.com>, successlalu@ yahoo.com<successlalu@yahoo.com>,
>> "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk <tejas_tadsare@yahoo.co.uk>>, tta5year@yahoogroup
>> s.com <tta5year@yahoogroups.com>, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com<ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>,
>> "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com <vinoyadav@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com<mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com<mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com <mittals3@yahoo.com>, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in<ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in>,
>> ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
>>
>> Dear all Friends....
>>
>> it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
>> discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to
>> all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life
>> as our court cases will be.
>>
>> None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got
>> finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will
>> be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation
>> ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya
>> etc etc).
>>
>> Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr.
>> Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest
>> help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the
>> designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can
>> become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the
>> widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to
>> us.
>>
>> i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and
>> healthy discussion.
>>
>> so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
>>
>>
>> Comments Welcomed as Always.....
>>
>> Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>>
>> Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
>> Punjab Telecom Circle
>> Abohar (152116)
>> Reachable @ 09417583939
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj
>> ab@gmail. com <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail.
>> com <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com <snattachq@gmail.com>>, snattapunjab@
>> gmail.com <snattapunjab@gmail.com>, email13@gmail. com<email13@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>>
>>
>> *Dear Friends,*
>> First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their
>> views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different
>> views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable
>> suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but
>> bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on
>> 29/6/2010 , *NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME*. If you read again my mail to
>> yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted
>> by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed
>> in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this
>> process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER
>> TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change
>> nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed
>> the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views
>> on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to
>> give any more valuable suggestions.
>> any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all
>> members that please give your valuable suggestions *OTHERWISE THERE WILL
>> BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION*.We
>> should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE
>> COMMITTEE.
>> *WITH REGARDS,*
>> *HAKAM SINGH,*
>> *CS-SNATTA-PB,*
>> *09417277177.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj
>> ab@gmail. com <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail.
>> com <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com <snattachq@gmail.com>>, snattapunjab@
>> gmail.com <snattapunjab@gmail.com>, email13@gmail. com<email13@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dear Friends,*
>> First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted
>> their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a
>> different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar &
>> valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on
>> 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in
>> meeting on 29/6/2010 , *NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME*. If you read again my
>> mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail
>> submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has
>> been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in
>> this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER
>> TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change
>> nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed
>> the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views
>> on designationchange@ gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=designationchange@gmail.com>, please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
>> any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all
>> members that please give your valuable suggestions *OTHERWISE THERE WILL
>> BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION*.We
>> should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE
>> COMMITTEE.
>> *WITH REGARDS,*
>> *HAKAM SINGH,*
>> *CS-SNATTA-PB,*
>> *09417277177.*
>> * *
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different... Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
3.1. KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:26 am ((PDT))
Designation as Suggested by Mr Huda (TTA Chennai):
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) ,
TELECOM SERVICE
ENGINEER(RSU)
may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It
is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will
be responsible for our work.
Designation as Suggested by Me:
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (BB)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RSU)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (CCN)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RURAL)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (URBAN) etc.
Support staff can't be held responsible for any type of superios's Lapse as per the RTI Act Provisions but the SERVICE staff may be accountable for the Consumer Court cases as we are charging the service tax in the bills of any product of the BSNL services. Service staff may escape from the knife of RTI act also but for each and every time, they have to prevent theirs skins with written communications to their superiors (as court follows the written documents as by law) which will be surely lapsed by our fresh recruited friends.
So please have common discussions......
Comments from Mr Neeraj Gupta (UP) are urgently needed on this matter through this group please.
Surinder Mittal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designation as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 12:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind
Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda
are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries
related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us
any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation
considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name
ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU
maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE
ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It
is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will
be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in,
sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_ 12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it
seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the
discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going
on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our
corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys
(even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the
ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain
murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone
chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc
etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy
discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must
offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the
forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited
thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all
help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This
matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar
(152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted
their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a
different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar
& valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting
on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear
that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo
group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted
by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been
agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal
& in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e
JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related
to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views
today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views
immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so
please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
3.2. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
Posted by: "shamsul huda" huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com huda_muthaleef
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))
THIS IS A CLEAN GOOD EXPLANANTION FROM SURINDER MITTAL.
regards shamsul huda, TTA
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 1:47 PM
Designation as Suggested by Mr Huda (TTA Chennai):
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) ,
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU)
may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Designation as Suggested by Me:
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (BB)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RSU)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (CCN)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RURAL)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (URBAN) etc.
Support staff can't be held responsible for any type of superios's Lapse as per the RTI Act Provisions but the SERVICE staff may be accountable for the Consumer Court cases as we are charging the service tax in the bills of any product of the BSNL services. Service staff may escape from the knife of RTI act also but for each and every time, they have to prevent theirs skins with written communications to their superiors (as court follows the written documents as by law) which will be surely lapsed by our fresh recruited friends.
So please have common discussions. .....
Comments from Mr Neeraj Gupta (UP) are urgently needed on this matter through this group please.
Surinder Mittal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designati on as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 12:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_
12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
3.3. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
Posted by: "Sukhjiwan Singh" jiwan_268@yahoo.co.in jiwan_268
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:07 pm ((PDT))
service engineer is much better than support engg.
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ranjinihp@yahoo.co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 1:47 PM
Designation as Suggested by Mr Huda (TTA Chennai):
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) ,
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU)
may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Designation as Suggested by Me:
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (BB)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RSU)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (CCN)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RURAL)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (URBAN) etc.
Support staff can't be held responsible for any type of superios's Lapse as per the RTI Act Provisions but the SERVICE staff may be accountable for the Consumer Court cases as we are charging the service tax in the bills of any product of the BSNL services. Service staff may escape from the knife of RTI act also but for each and every time, they have to prevent theirs skins with written communications to their superiors (as court follows the written documents as by law) which will be surely lapsed by our fresh recruited friends.
So please have common discussions. .....
Comments from Mr Neeraj Gupta (UP) are urgently needed on this matter through this group please.
Surinder Mittal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designati on as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 12:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@ yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo. co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_
12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@
gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
3.4. Re: KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:18 pm ((PDT))
Dear friends
I want to repeat the mail which I sent to designationchange@ gmail.com.
Our designation can be changed either Engineer Telecom or Engineer BSNL or
otherwise Telecom Engineer or BSNL Engineer as we are the only Technically
qualified and Technically working cadre, and be sure without any responsibilities
and No need of junior , senior or assistant .
A Muralidharan TTA
District President SNATTA Trichy SSA
Tamil Nadu
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Sukhjiwan Singh <jiwan_268@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Sukhjiwan Singh <jiwan_268@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 6:06 AM
service engineer is much better than support engg.
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Must Read (@09417583939)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 1:47 PM
Designation as Suggested by Mr Huda (TTA Chennai):
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) ,
TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU)
may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Designation as Suggested by Me:
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (BB)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RSU)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (CCN)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (RURAL)
TELECOM SUPPORT ENGINEER (URBAN) etc.
Support staff can't be held responsible for any type of superios's Lapse as per the RTI Act Provisions but the SERVICE staff may be accountable for the Consumer Court cases as we are charging the service tax in the bills of any product of the BSNL services. Service staff may escape from the knife of RTI act also but for each and every time, they have to prevent theirs skins with written communications to their superiors (as court follows the
written documents as by law) which will be surely lapsed by our fresh recruited friends.
So please have common discussions. .....
Comments from Mr Neeraj Gupta (UP) are urgently needed on this matter through this group please.
Surinder Mittal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL KA: Mr Hakam Singh & others....Designati on as suggested by Mr Huda (TTA-Chennai)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 12:28 AM
Excellent Mr Huda.....
These are the designations which i m looking for....
Kind Attention : Mr Hakam Singh, these designations as suggested by Mr Huda are the excellent... ..it covers all the safe gaurds as per the worries related to RTI Act.
Surinder Mittal
--- On Sun, 7/18/10, shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: shamsul huda <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: "s. mittal" <mittals3@yahoo. com>, designationchange@ gmail.com, "SNATTA"
<ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:20 AM
Dear Friends,
It occurs to me, that designation change is not going to make us any better. But still we have a right to demand a better designation considering our junior TTAs, who have a long way to go in this company.
Considering the TTA'a qualification, it is good to hold the name ENGINEER. Our jobs include BB service, Customer service, RSU maintenance etc. So ' TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(BB) , TELECOM SERVICE ENGINEER(RSU) ETC may be better. Please cut off the word ASSISTANT. It is no longer required. Even if we assist the JTO, SDE, De etc we will be responsible for our work.
Regards,
SHAMSUL HUDA, TTA, CHENNAI
--- On Sat, 17/7/10, s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: s. mittal <mittals3@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: ak_hello@yahoo. co.in, "appu appu" <bsen_77@yahoo. co.in>, "bihari" <bn9676@yahoo. co.in>, bpskkp@yahoo. co.in, bsnlletters@
yahoo.com, dev_c2000@yahoo. com, dev2006@gmail. com, email13@gmail. com, "vishnu goyal" <goyalvishnu_ 2000@yahoo. co.in>, "hem" <hem_bsnl@yahoo. co.in>, "shamsul huda" <huda_muthaleef@ yahoo.com>, jatinder261@ gmail.com, jtocc@rediffmail. com, jyoti786@rediffmail .com, maansaha@yahoo. com, mathavakutti@ yahoo.com, mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com, naresh1654_bgarh@ yahoo.co. in, navdeepamb@yahoo.
co.in, naveen.mehta@ ambujacement. com, neeraj_udsc@ yahoo.com, nk28ahuja@yahoo. com, pankajnpatil@ yahoo.com, rajendrabsnl@ yahoo.co. in, sampad_swain2002@ yahoo.co. in, sandeep_bsnl123@ yahoo.com, sandip4net@yahoo. co.in, sandipkmodi@ rediffmail. com, "RAKESH SEHGAL" <rakesh_sehgal75@ yahoo.com>, shailesh_dhande@ rediffmail. com, shailly1979@ gmail.com, shyampathak55@ gmail.com, sidheshgauns@ yahoo.com, sjd_4u@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya_ 12@yahoo. com, sonalmalviya12@ gmail.com, successlalu@ yahoo.com, "tejas" <tejas_tadsare@ yahoo.co. uk>, tta5year@yahoogroup s.com, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com, "vinod yadav" <vinoyadav@gmail. com>
Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 7:27 PM
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@ yahoo.com>
Subject: MOST BURNING..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: mittals3@yahoo. com, ranjinihp@yahoo. co.in, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:52 AM
Dear all Friends....
it seems very rediculous that only a few friends are making involve in the discussion of the Designation Change scenerio. what the hell is going on to all of
you. this matter also have the similar impact on our corporate life as our court cases will be.
None of the guys (even 1%) has participated and Once they will got finalized in the ABSENCE of Valuable Suggestions from your side, there will be certain murmur from everyside. Everyone will then say that "designation ye hone chahiye tha, wo hona chahiye tha aur ye karwa diya...., Marwa diya etc etc).
Dear friends....please participate in active and healthy discussion as Mr. Hakam Singh is also a person by identity and we must offer him the highest help to make him feel bit relexed for the forthcoming meeting for the designation change. we all have a limited thinking but collectively we can become a "THINK TANK" and please u all help him out so that he may have the widest thinking support. This matter is highly burning and most important to us.
i m sure that all our friends will shook off their heads for active and healthy
discussion.
so please spare some time for this never before discussion.
Comments Welcomed as Always.....
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939
--- On
Fri, 1 6/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation
change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
--- On Fri, 16/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL TO ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "snatta headquater" <snattachq@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, email13@gmail. com
Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 11:20 AM
Dear Friends,
First of all i personally thanks to all members who have submitted their views regarding designation change , it is very nice to see a different views with full support submitted by surinder from abhohar & valuable suggestion by our bandhan(BP). I have attended a meeting on 29/6/2010 but bandhan acoording to your worry , i want to make clear that in meeting on 29/6/2010 , NOTHING HAS AGREED BY ME. If you read again my mail to yahoo group on 30/6/2010 regarding detail of meeting & detail submitted by BSNLEU on their website , it is very clear that nothing has been agreed in meeting of 29/6/2010.We have just submitted our proposal & in this process i have also submitted the demand of snatta i.e JUNIOR ENGINEER TELECOM. Dear bandhan you have noticed a point related to designation change nemenclature on 29/6/2010 but opend your views today after 17 days passed the meeting , so please give views
immediately if again you have more views on designationchange@ gmail.com , please dont wait such a long time to give any more valuable suggestions.
any suggestions by our members is very useful so again i request to all members that please give your valuable suggestions OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO MEANING OF SUGGESTIONS/ DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE FINAL DECISION.We should must come to final point before FINAL DECISION OF DESIGNATION CHANGE COMMITTEE.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
09417277177.
Messages in this topic (27)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
4a. AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "vineeth adolph" vineethadolph@gmail.com vineethadolph
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:36 am ((PDT))
AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear friends,
Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and
all the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that
the BSNL was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss
was balanced by the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake
up to the situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the
prescription prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we
have to understand the problem in its correct perspective and start moving
in correct direction to find the solution keeping in mind the interest of
the organization and employees both.
BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a
typical Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political
intervention and typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a
great challenge for all of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages
by changing our mindset and cultivating better work culture and also by
fighting out some of the issues organizationally.
Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact
that any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number
at the managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons.
Our unions and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue
and the sincere collective efforts were not made till the situation reached
alarming proportion. We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and
GM level are not ready to opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists
or planned to man these posts in such an eventuality. Again the option is to
hire hundreds of professionals for middle level management posts from
outside market at market price (as suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee
for board level) for a limited period of time so that BSNL recruits its own
staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which is already bogged down by court
cases. Our unions and Associations should demand contingency plan should be
in place in such an eventuality and allow one time recruitment of managerial
staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken this as a one point
agenda at least five years back but the precious time is lost. Now also
unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for pressurising
that ITS absorption to be finalized.
Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and
started sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way
is to offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember
they are not thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through
and also offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside
the ship if oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks.
There is no reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of
us will be drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so
that older people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt.
policy. Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No.
Are they not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such
hue and cry as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not
be understood. BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of
offloading the share of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No
body can stop this. By opposing we are only delaying the process and one day
we will be compelled to allow this to happen when our stock value becomes
low or a situation may come to sell this sick organization at a throw away
price. Let us not commit that sin. Earlier we opposed unbundling of last
mile and sharing of infrastructure now with the introduction of 3G and BWA
no private operator may need our copper loop and thus we have lost the
business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from this and should not
commit same mistake again and again.
Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but
let us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union
/Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive
package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to
run the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on
the wrong issues and dig our own grave.
Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal
with any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my
personal interest but for the interest of all of us.
Thanking you.
S. K. Hegde
Sr. SDE BGTD
--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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4b. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:33 am ((PDT))
Dear Friend
With this big explanation, why you should not accept the Pitroda's proposal . I am at Pitroda's side only.
A Muralidharan TTA
District President SNATTA Trichy SSA
Tamil Nadu
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com> wrote:
From: vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
To: "ttabsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 3:16 PM
AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear friends,
Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and all the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that the BSNL was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss was balanced by the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake up to the situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the prescription prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we have to understand the problem in its correct perspective and start moving in correct direction to find the solution keeping in mind the interest of the organization and employees both.
BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a typical Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political intervention and typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a great challenge for all of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages by changing our mindset and cultivating better work culture and also by fighting out some of the issues organizationally.
Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact that any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number at the managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons. Our unions and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue and the sincere collective efforts were not made till the situation reached alarming proportion. We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and GM level are not ready to opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists or planned to man these posts in such an eventuality. Again the option is to hire hundreds of professionals for middle level management posts from outside market at market price (as suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee for board level) for a limited period of time so that BSNL recruits its own staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which is already bogged down by court cases. Our unions and Associations should demand contingency plan
should be in place in such an eventuality and allow one time recruitment of managerial staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken this as a one point agenda at least five years back but the precious time is lost. Now also unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for pressurising that ITS absorption to be finalized.
Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and started sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way is to offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember they are not thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through and also offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside the ship if oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks. There is no reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of us will be drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so that older people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt. policy. Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No. Are they not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such hue and cry as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not be understood. BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of offloading the share of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No body can stop this. By opposing we are only delaying the process and one day we will be compelled to allow this to happen when our stock value becomes low or a situation may come to sell this sick organization at a throw away price. Let us not commit that sin. Earlier we opposed unbundling of last mile and sharing of infrastructure now with the introduction of 3G and BWA no private operator may need our copper loop and thus we have lost the business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from this and should not
commit same mistake again and again.
Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but let us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union /Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to run the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on the wrong issues and dig our own grave.
Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal with any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my personal interest but for the interest of all of us.
Thanking you.
S. K. Hegde
Sr. SDE BGTD
--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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4c. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:58 am ((PDT))
i agree with it....need to be wake up soon..otherwise our ship may sink....
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
B S N L Newai
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell: +91-9413424883
gsrajawat@gmail.com
________________________________
From: vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>
To: ttabsnl <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 18 July, 2010 3:16:31 PM
Subject: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear friends,
Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and all
the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that the BSNL
was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss was balanced by
the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake up to the
situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the prescription
prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we have to understand
the problem in its correct perspective and start moving in correct direction to
find the solution keeping in mind the interest of the organization and employees
both.
BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a typical
Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political intervention and
typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a great challenge for all
of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages by changing our mindset and
cultivating better work culture and also by fighting out some of the issues
organizationally.
Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact that
any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number at the
managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons. Our unions
and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue and the sincere
collective efforts were not made till the situation reached alarming proportion.
We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and GM level are not ready to
opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists or planned to man these posts
in such an eventuality. Again the option is to hire hundreds of professionals
for middle level management posts from outside market at market price (as
suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee for board level) for a limited period of
time so that BSNL recruits its own staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which
is already bogged down by court cases. Our unions and Associations should demand
contingency plan should be in place in such an eventuality and allow one time
recruitment of managerial staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken
this as a one point agenda at least five years back but the precious time is
lost. Now also unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for
pressurising that ITS absorption to be finalized.
Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and started
sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way is to
offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember they are not
thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through and also
offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside the ship if
oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks. There is no
reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of us will be
drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so that older
people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt. policy.
Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No. Are they
not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such hue and cry
as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not be understood.
BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of offloading the share
of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No body can stop this. By
opposing we are only delaying the process and one day we will be compelled to
allow this to happen when our stock value becomes low or a situation may come to
sell this sick organization at a throw away price. Let us not commit that sin.
Earlier we opposed unbundling of last mile and sharing of infrastructure now
with the introduction of 3G and BWA no private operator may need our copper loop
and thus we have lost the business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from
this and should not commit same mistake again and again.
Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but let
us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union
/Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive
package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to run
the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on the wrong
issues and dig our own grave.
Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal with
any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my personal
interest but for the interest of all of us.
Thanking you.
S. K. Hegde
Sr. SDE BGTD
--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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4d. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:57 am ((PDT))
hi.
i too agree with the below mail contents.. a very well crafted letter by
some SDE. i love people like this who care for their company.
bandhan
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:16 PM, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
>
> Dear friends,
> Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and
> all the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that
> the BSNL was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss
> was balanced by the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake
> up to the situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the
> prescription prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we
> have to understand the problem in its correct perspective and start moving
> in correct direction to find the solution keeping in mind the interest of
> the organization and employees both.
>
> BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a
> typical Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political
> intervention and typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a
> great challenge for all of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages
> by changing our mindset and cultivating better work culture and also by
> fighting out some of the issues organizationally.
>
> Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact
> that any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number
> at the managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons.
> Our unions and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue
> and the sincere collective efforts were not made till the situation reached
> alarming proportion. We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and
> GM level are not ready to opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists
> or planned to man these posts in such an eventuality. Again the option is to
> hire hundreds of professionals for middle level management posts from
> outside market at market price (as suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee
> for board level) for a limited period of time so that BSNL recruits its own
> staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which is already bogged down by court
> cases. Our unions and Associations should demand contingency plan should be
> in place in such an eventuality and allow one time recruitment of managerial
> staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken this as a one point
> agenda at least five years back but the precious time is lost. Now also
> unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for pressurising
> that ITS absorption to be finalized.
>
> Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and
> started sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way
> is to offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember
> they are not thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through
> and also offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside
> the ship if oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks.
> There is no reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of
> us will be drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so
> that older people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
>
> Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt.
> policy. Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No.
> Are they not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such
> hue and cry as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not
> be understood. BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of
> offloading the share of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No
> body can stop this. By opposing we are only delaying the process and one day
> we will be compelled to allow this to happen when our stock value becomes
> low or a situation may come to sell this sick organization at a throw away
> price. Let us not commit that sin. Earlier we opposed unbundling of last
> mile and sharing of infrastructure now with the introduction of 3G and BWA
> no private operator may need our copper loop and thus we have lost the
> business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from this and should not
> commit same mistake again and again.
>
> Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions
> but let us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your
> Union /Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an
> attractive package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS
> package and to run the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade
> union actions on the wrong issues and dig our own grave.
> Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal
> with any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my
> personal interest but for the interest of all of us.
>
> Thanking you.
>
> S. K. Hegde
> Sr. SDE BGTD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Vineeth Adolph
> Telecom Technical Assistant
> (WiMax Project,Alleppey)
> Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
> (A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4e. Re: AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:12 pm ((PDT))
very well said sir
but i think most of us know this situation and most of our top union leaders
also know. this matter can better be solved at JAC level. actually there are
several forces working against the growth of BSNL. we r not able to get license
for operation in Delhi and Mumbai where our competitors have more business. we r
forced to operate in rural areas where operation cost is more than metro. the
awards for services r given on the basis of performance in metro and urban
areas. no surveyor goes to see the network in rural areas where the services of
private operator are worst.
deepak kumar
9431610399
________________________________
From: vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>
To: ttabsnl <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 3:16:31 PM
Subject: TTABSNL AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
AN APPEAL TO THE BSNL EMPLOYEES
Dear friends,
Now all of us are well aware that BSNL has started incurring heavy loss and all
the reserve funds are also drying up. This is not the first year that the BSNL
was incurring operational loss. For the last 2-3 years this loss was balanced by
the interest earned on the reserve fund. But we did not wake up to the
situation. Our union leaders have made wrong diagnosis hence the prescription
prescribed was also wrong. Though it is late at least now we have to understand
the problem in its correct perspective and start moving in correct direction to
find the solution keeping in mind the interest of the organization and employees
both.
BSNL being a Govt. owned public sector has inherited disadvantages of a typical
Govt. organization like delay in decision making, political intervention and
typical mindset of employees at all levels etc. It is a great challenge for all
of us to strive hard to overcome these disadvantages by changing our mindset and
cultivating better work culture and also by fighting out some of the issues
organizationally.
Another major issue is absorption of ITS officers. It is well known fact that
any organization comprising of hired or deputed persons in big number at the
managerial or lower level could not succeed due to obvious reasons. Our unions
and Associations have not given enough importance to this issue and the sincere
collective efforts were not made till the situation reached alarming proportion.
We understand that majority of ITS officers at DGM and GM level are not ready to
opt for BSNL but no alternative arrangement exists or planned to man these posts
in such an eventuality. Again the option is to hire hundreds of professionals
for middle level management posts from outside market at market price (as
suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee for board level) for a limited period of
time so that BSNL recruits its own staff. Recruitment is a long procedure which
is already bogged down by court cases. Our unions and Associations should demand
contingency plan should be in place in such an eventuality and allow one time
recruitment of managerial staff by relaxing the rules. Unions should have taken
this as a one point agenda at least five years back but the precious time is
lost. Now also unions have not taken clear cut stand on this issue except for
pressurising that ITS absorption to be finalized.
Now let us come to VRS and Disinvestment issues. Ship is overloaded and started
sinking because of its own overweight. In this circumstance only way is to
offload certain number of people to the life saving boats (remember they are not
thrown in to the deep water) so that ship also can sail through and also
offloaded people can reach the other side safely. The people inside the ship if
oppose this, then all have to drown together as the ship sinks. There is no
reason to oppose VRS, at this stage if we oppose VRS then all of us will be
drowned together. Now only duty is to negotiate better package so that older
people exit happily and younger ones continue with better future.
Disinvestment issue should be seen in larger perspective of the Govt. policy.
Whether all other public sectors are 100 percent owned by Govt.? No. Are they
not running in a better way? Why our union leaders are making such hue and cry
as if every thing is lost if disinvestment takes place, can not be understood.
BSNL was carved out of Govt. sector with the intention of offloading the share
of the Govt. It is very clear in the Telecom policy. No body can stop this. By
opposing we are only delaying the process and one day we will be compelled to
allow this to happen when our stock value becomes low or a situation may come to
sell this sick organization at a throw away price. Let us not commit that sin.
Earlier we opposed unbundling of last mile and sharing of infrastructure now
with the introduction of 3G and BWA no private operator may need our copper loop
and thus we have lost the business opportunity. We should learn the lesson from
this and should not commit same mistake again and again.
Friends, let us not be too emotional or panicky and take hasty decisions but let
us be pragmatic. I request each one of you to prevail upon your Union
/Association leaders to think practically and demand VRS with an attractive
package and also let us allow disinvestment to meet the VRS package and to run
the BSNL in a better way. Let us not resort to trade union actions on the wrong
issues and dig our own grave.
Friends, I also would like make it clear that I have not issued this appeal with
any hidden agenda of floating a new Union/Association or only for my personal
interest but for the interest of all of us.
Thanking you.
S. K. Hegde
Sr. SDE BGTD
--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:37 am ((PDT))
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6. One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))
Hi friends,
*One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!*
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good
reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among
public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the one out of below mentioned Designation which may be our
next *DESTINATION*...!!
"*Junior Engineer*" -
Telecom/Broadband/Switch/Services/Support/Mobile/Transmission
>>> for example >> *Junior Engineer Telecom or **Junior Engineer Broadband*
Telecom/Broadband/Switch/Services/Support/Mobile/Transmission - "*ENGINEER*"
>>> for example >> *Telecom **Engineer ** or **Broadband* *Engineer *
"*Telecom Support Engineer*"
Mobile/Transmission/Rural/Urban/Broadband/Switch/Services/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Telecom Support Engineer (Mobile)* or *Telecom Support
Engineer (Switch)*
"*Telecom Service Engineer*"
Mobile/Transmission/Urban/Broadband/Switch/Support/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile)* or *Telecom Service
Engineer (MDF)*
"*Service Engineer*"
(Telecom/Broadband/Mobile/Transmission/Switch/CCN/Rural/Urban/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Service Engineer (Telecom)* or *Service Engineer
(Broadband)*
"*Support Engineer*"
(Telecom/Broadband/Mobile/Transmission/Switch/CCN/Rural/Urban/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Support **Engineer (Transmission)* or *Support **Engineer
(Switch)*
the above poll link is
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/surveys?id=2308883 open it and
Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers
are designated as Junior Engineers.
*The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that they
are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer* so that the sanity
prevails in them.
*The above lines in green* are not mine instead taken from
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/message/3019 these are said by
our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), *only if* BSNLEU
is adamant on *Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators* then Demand not less
than *EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs*. In a one go we will be Engineer and
Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture.
As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if
management decided to change its Group-B ranks to Managers then we may get a
chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators
designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its
rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and
firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7a. Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTA
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:14 pm ((PDT))
Hi SNATTAians,
*One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!*
* Poll is just created to get the Trend from the
SNATTAians.*
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good
reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among
public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our
next *DESTINATION*...!!
"*Junior Engineer JE*" -
Telecom/Broadband/Switch/Services/Support/Mobile/Transmission
>>> for example >> *Junior Engineer Telecom *or *Junior
Engineer Broadband*
Telecom/Broadband/Switch/Services/Support/Mobile/Transmission - "*ENGINEER Er
**.*"
>>> for example >> *Telecom **Engineer* or *Broadband* *Engineer
*
"*Telecom Support Engineer TSE*"
Mobile/Transmission/Rural/Urban/Broadband/Switch/Services/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Telecom Support Engineer (Mobile)*
or *Telecom
Support Engineer (Switch)*
"*Telecom Service Engineer ** TSE*"
Mobile/Transmission/Urban/Broadband/Switch/Support/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile)*
or *Telecom
Service Engineer (MDF)*
"*Service Engineer **SE*"
(Telecom/Broadband/Mobile/Transmission/Switch/CCN/Rural/Urban/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Service Engineer (Telecom)* or *Service
Engineer (Broadband)*
"*Support Engineer **SE*"
(Telecom/Broadband/Mobile/Transmission/Switch/CCN/Rural/Urban/MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> *Support **Engineer (Transmission)*
or *Support
**Engineer (Switch)*
the above poll link is
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/surveys?id=2308883 open it and
Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers
are designated as Junior Engineers.
*The minimum qualification which the TTAs possess, itself suggests that they
are engineer and deserve to be designated as engineer* so that the sanity
prevails in them.
*The above lines in green* are not mine instead taken from
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/message/3019 these are said by
our *Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
*
One* LAST Suggestion* for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), *only
if*BSNLEU is adamant on
*Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators* then Demand not less than *EXECUTIVE
ENGINEER for TTAs*. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-)
it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no
Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided
to change its Group-B ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our
desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators
designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its
rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of* JE (T) Rank*.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and
firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
*Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.*
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7b. Re: Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for
Posted by: "chudasama bhavin" cbhavin@yahoo.co.in cbhavin
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:40 pm ((PDT))
Hi Bandhan,
Junior Engineer is best choices with extension in different field.
Telecom Engineer is second choice with extension.
CHUDASAMA BHAVIN J.
Ahmedabad.
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Now or Never >>> Please Vote for the Best Designation Change for TTAs ..!!
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hi SNATTAians,
One Poll created for Designation Change. Pls Vote the BEST..!!
Poll is just created to get the Trend from the SNATTAians.
Which is the Best Alternative Designation for TTAs ?? ...
which could reflect our nature of Job Profile as well as shows good reputation among masses.
A designation which enhances our position and status in BSNL and among public.
It could be our official classification and easy recognition.
Pls Choose/Vote the best out of below mentioned Designation which may be our next DESTINATION...!!
"Junior Engineer JE" - Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission
>>> for example >> Junior Engineer Telecom or Junior Engineer Broadband
Telecom/Broadband/ Switch/Services/ Support/Mobile/ Transmission - "ENGINEER Er."
>>> for example >> Telecom Engineer or Broadband Engineer
"Telecom Support Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Rural/Urban/ Broadband/ Switch/Services/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example >> Telecom Support Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Support Engineer (Switch)
"Telecom Service Engineer TSE" Mobile/Transmission /Urban/Broadband /Switch/Support/ MDF/RSU)
>>> for example
>> Telecom Service Engineer (Mobile) or Telecom Service Engineer (MDF)
"Service Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example
>> Service Engineer (Telecom) or Service Engineer (Broadband)
"Support Engineer SE" (Telecom/Broadband/ Mobile/Transmiss ion/Switch/ CCN/Rural/ Urban/MDF/ RSU)
>>> for example
>> Support Engineer (Transmission) or Support Engineer (Switch)
the above poll link is http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/surveys? id=2308883 open it and Choose/Vote.
It is needless to point out that in almost
all the PSUs, Diploma Engineers are designated as Junior Engineers.
The minimum qualification which the
TTAs possess, itself suggests that they are engineer and deserve to
be designated as engineer so that the sanity prevails in them.
The above lines in green are not mine instead taken from http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TTABSNL/message/ 3019 these are said by our Ex-GS Dhiraj Chaudhary.
One LAST Suggestion for Committee member (Mr.Hakam Singh), only if BSNLEU is adamant on Telecom Executive for Telecom Operators then Demand not less than EXECUTIVE ENGINEER for TTAs. In a one go we will be Engineer and Executive both. ;-) it has both the elements of Govt. and Corporate culture. As there is no Designation of Executive left in Group-B and Group-A if management decided to change its Group-B ranks to Managers then we may get a chance to get our desired rank.
otherwise as per my previous mail oppose the executive word from Operators designation. as fundamentally Group-C could not get executive word in its rank. and Just Stick to our previous unanimous decision of JE (T) Rank.
I hope you finally got all suggestions, now its time for some action and firm decision.
Wish you tons of Good Luck.
Suggestions, Comments and Feedback is always welcomed.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA,
Mohali, Chandigarh.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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8. Dengue Treatment: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:16 pm ((PDT))
-
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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9a. Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
Posted by: "LOVELY KOUNDAL" lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in lovelykoundal
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:17 pm ((PDT))
hello santosh ji,
wht do u know abt pay fixation of 2007,2008 batch???
BSNLEU and snatta just playing games wid us... if the TM ,RM and ToA had this situation as we are facing definatly bsnleu start agitation for there rights.
but nobody takes pain for TTA's .
--- On Thu, 15/7/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Ignoring TTA 2009 Batch
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 8:33 PM
hallo mr.,
who has told you that TTA's of batch 2009 is ignored for fitment benefit.
at first be clear you'll be either of 2007 0r 2008 batch not of 2009 batch.
now , if you are aware from the latest movement then you've not right to ask such worthless message............
see websites of BSNLEU, SNATTACHQ & SNATTA CTD.........
there is answer of your question.........
myself also from 2007 batch............ok???????????
santosh anand
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, "axeem2003" <axeem2003@...> wrote:
>
> I fail to understand why 2009 batch is being ignored while discussing for pay revision and fitment benefit application. Do these people think that this batch will never understand this trick ? or they think they are not worth to care for
>
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10. designation change
Posted by: "alagu pandia raja" p_apr@yahoo.com p_apr
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:33 pm ((PDT))
dear hakam
i regularly watch your mail at our groups.every one suggust
their own views adout the name change. in my point of view dont make any
confusions over and over about the name to be changed.here i collect the views
of the TTAs working in TAMIL NADU circle,most of them r clearly said that the
name submitted to the commitee is very suitable for us (JUNIOR TELECOM
ENGG or JUNIOR ENGG TELECOM).And it also very commom and popular designation
for enggineers at entry lever in any other govt organaisations.
so i suggest you to stress and put strong pionts in the commitee
to change the name of our cadre to JUNIOR TELECOM ENGG or JUNIOR ENGG TELECOM.
this time is not suitable to select the name,its the time to change the name
from ASSISTANT to ENGG.so go ahead ,we r march behind u.
P.ALAGUPANDIARAJA
CP.SNATTA. TAMILNADU
09443407770
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11. designation change..
Posted by: "rama krishna" grk_331978@yahoo.com grk_331978
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:44 am ((PDT))
regarding designation change " JE" is the most suitable designation, which has an ability to be recognised us is very easy, because of that only till so many JTO s are being called as JEs...
ramakrishna
9440111150...
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12. JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:02 am ((PDT))
Dear Sr Hakam and other friends,
I agree with Bandhan and all others who have voted for the designation change to
Junior Engineer(Telecom) and in fact Bandhan has very well elaborated in mail
for the reasons behind it.
Junior Engineer is the most recognizable designation that we can have and we
should not go for fancy and unrealistic demands.The BSNL management can give
only what has been given in others PSUs and I do not think it will experiment
much and try to create a sort of history by giving a fresh diploma an EXECUTIVE
ENGG post,there is no precedence of such thing in other departments or PSUs.If
we demand for so and so designation then we have to give them(management) proof
of existence of such designations in other PSUs.
Throught India various diploma engineer association have been fighting for
common scale and designation and common service condition for diploma
engineers.In Prasar Bharti they are called Engg Assistants,IOC calls the
Technician(recently they have changed to engg assistant on pressure of
unions/association,not agreeing to their demand for the JE desig),many state
departments call them Subordinate Assistant Engg(WBSEB,Orissa),still others call
then Overseer,some even recruit them at Junior Manager,Research
institutes(defence,universities,etc) recruit them at technical assistant,and
BSNL calls them TTA.
With a view to bringing uniformity and harmony in designation it will be just
and fair to demand that the existing designation for the cadre may immediately
be dispensed with and be substituted as JUNIOR ENGINEER. For maintaining parity
in the principle in force that whenever there remains an identity of all Degree
holder Engineers (as Assistant Engineer, Executive Engineer, Superintending
Engineer, Chief Engineer etc.) in any organization of the state or any where
outside even in sub-division level as Assistant Engineers, why there shall not
be similar uniform pattern of identity for the diploma engineers everywhere in
the state as JUNIOR ENGINEER ? Govt. of India has re-designated the post of
Sectional Officer in CPWD as Junior Engineer, vide Memo. No. 33/4/70-Adm IV
dated 17-10-1970 and advised all Chief Secretaries of State to take similar
action as regards with the post of Sectional Officers/Overseers/Sub-Assistant
Engineers or otherwise in the state too vide his letter No. 12029(1) dated
16-09-1971.†All most all the States except West Bengal,Orissa,Bihar,CPWD,DOT
had since accepted the advice of the Govt. of India and the designation of the
Diploma Engineers has been renamed as JUNIOR ENGINEER.
Therefore, in BSNL,Telecom Technical Assistants have been and are being deprived
of having their status and prestige at par with all Junior Engineers in respect
of JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and FRATERNITY as per proclamation of the
Constitution of India and our demand for “JUNIOR ENGINEER†designation is being
denied by the Govt. of India and now BSNL intentionally for more than a decade.
The entire TTA (Diploma Engg)cadre is the victim of INJUSTICE, INEQUALITY,
SUBJECTION and ENMITY. The Diploma Engg are really the “BEAST OF THE BURDEN IN
THE DEPARTMENT†remarked by Hon’ble DAULAT HIGH POWER COMMISSION and it is an
established and proven fact as each DE acts in the role of a surveyor, a
planner, a designer, a supervisor, a clerk cum cashier, a messenger, a
custodian, an organizer, an estimator, an accountant and above all a manager and
what not ?
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
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13. Dear Manish ,regarding Building fund
Posted by: "lucky_nagaur" lakshya2001@gmail.com lucky_nagaur
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:03 am ((PDT))
Dear Manish & all CHQ members.
As you are well aware of the demand of BSNLEU to give Rs. 600 as Building Fund. Now on behalf of the TTAs of my Nagaur SSA, I want dear Manish & all CHQ leaders to please come up and declare that ' How many CHQ leaders & CC & CS have donated to the Building Fund'. This is not a explanation call but a request to open up so that other friends don't hesitate in making a decision regarding Building Fund.
Thanks
Sushil Choudhary
DS, SNATTA
nagaur-Rajasthan
09413394233
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