Wednesday, September 8, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1885[7 Attachments]

There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. News from NFTE CHQ Site about JTO LDCE
From: SPA Gopalan
1b. News from NFTE CHQ Site about JTO LDCE
From: SPA Gopalan

2a. Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
From: naveen yadav
2b. Re: Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH

3a. CIRCLE COUNCIL MEETING OF BIHAR CIRCLE
From: Deepak Kumar
3b. Re: CIRCLE COUNCIL MEETING OF BIHAR CIRCLE
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4a. in which class we can travel while on official work to other station
From: Pranesh
4b. Re: in which class we can travel while on official work to other sta
From: Er. Munish Bhatheja
4c. Re: in which class we can travel while on official work to other sta
From: pawan singh

5. WHY THE PROMOTION IS NOT IN THE AGENDA OF BSNLEU?
From: Deepak Kumar

6. Fw: WHY THE PROMOTION IS NOT IN THE AGENDA OF BSNLEU?
From: Deepak Kumar

7. PC Suite for Chinese Mobiles
From: M K SAHA

8. 3G services and third-generation tariff wars
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9. Health Article>> Warning signs: Why am I so tired?
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

10. some useful documents
From: M K SAHA

11. A Message to all CC/CS................pls. pay attention............
From: santosh

12. Study leave
From: Hanmant Mohite

13a. Re: WIN32 VIRUS
From: pradeep aggarwal

14. Fact versus Opinions
From: Yasin Sindhi

15. 3G data card
From: shasikanta mutum

16a. Burning
From: salai dayalan


Messages
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1a. News from NFTE CHQ Site about JTO LDCE
Posted by: "SPA Gopalan" spa_gopalan@yahoo.com spa_gopalan
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 7:42 am ((PDT))

NFTE General Secretary wrote letter to GM Establishment about conducting the JTO LDCE exam and also reducing service condition from 7 years to 5 years. Please read the attachment.
I think this is the first news from NFTE CHQ website which is favour to DRTTAs.
- S.P.A.Gopalan
TTA Groups Tiruvarur
Tamilnadu


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1b. News from NFTE CHQ Site about JTO LDCE
Posted by: "SPA Gopalan" spa_gopalan@yahoo.com spa_gopalan
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:04 am ((PDT))

NFTE General Secretary wrote letter to GM Establishment about conducting the JTO LDCE exam and also reducing service condition from 7 years to 5 years. Please read the attachment.
I think this is the first news from NFTE CHQ website which is favour to DRTTAs.
- S.P.A.Gopalan
TTA Groups Tiruvarur
Tamilnadu



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2a. Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
Posted by: "naveen yadav" yadav16_smile@rediffmail.com
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 7:43 am ((PDT))


FRD'S
I AM AGREE WITH MR MANDAL ON THIS HOT ISSUE OF TODAY STRIKE. THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO SHOW OUR RESENTMENT. THE DICISION TO SUPPORT MORALLY BUT NOT TO GO ON STRIKE CREATE CONFUSION BETWEEN US. THE STRIKE NOTICE WAS GIVEN BY THE BSNLEU UNION ONE MONTH BEFORE. WE HAVE AN ENOUGH TIME TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM ALL DISTRICT AND CIRCLE BODY AND ALSO IT SHOULD BE DISSCUS ON GROUP. AFTER THAT CHQ SHOULD BE DECIDE TO TAKE A HEALTHY AND DEMOCRATIC DECISION.

NAVEEN YADAV
LUDHIANA

3. Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
Posted by: "rajeev mandal" rkm_delhi25@yahoo.co.uk rkm_delhi25
Date: Mon Sep 6, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))

Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.

Dear all,

i want to share one of my Personal Opinion on WHY we should participate in STRIKE.??
the below message is totally belongs to me and not influenced by anyone.

As this platform is formed to discuss our views and to take the All India view so i am hereby presenting my view on the Today's 's strike.

i agree to Disagree with SNATTA CHQ's decision to extend ONLY MORAL SUPPORT to an Issue of a Critical Importance and bearing for all PSU's of India.
Also SNATTA CHQ is suppose to issue clear-cut guidelines well before time and should not issue Diplomatic Instructions which amounts to wide spread confusion among the members. The msg updated on the SNATTA website does not instruct its members whether to participate in the STRIKE called by CPSU's of India against the govt Injustice, apathy and betrayal of the Nation by issuing diktats which will in the long run will make the profit making PSU into loss making one's. And paved the way for the ultimate disinvestments.
this issue is of particular importance to the whole Nation's union and association of India have forgo their personal or individual issues in support of the MAJOR CAUSE and we should United under a common umbrella. this strike should not be hampered or hijacked by any association or unions for their own sake.
this type of Anti-National activity will not lead to anything BUT it will only tarnish our image beyond repair and SNATTA will be treated a treacherous to the Nation till its very existence.


SNATTA CHQ has dictate instructions to support the strike morally but how we are supporting the strike as per CHQ guideline whereas at the same time we are instructed to boycott the strike so how we are morally supporting the strike, how will we justify the CHQ's stand of morally supporting the issue of national importance. we have seen number of Nationwide strikes called by Joint Action Committee and not a single time AIGETOA have supported the issue concerning the BSNL's existence. And all the time this particular association has boycotted from being part of JAC which is detrimental to very existence of BSNL. At this very juncture, it seems that our CHQ is very much influenced by AIGETOA and taking arbitrary and unjustified decisions which will not only weaken SNATTA but also put up a question mark on the leadership quality of SNATTA.

there is a time and place for every Action and this is my firm believe that this is not the platform to show our resentment which will lead to nothing because this is not a strike called by BSNLEU alone and we cannot expect to arm twist them to speedify our demands.
this kind of resentment will show us in bad spirits and as a whole our associating Will be treated as immature, incompetent and without foresight. Almost every Union and Association is going to participate in this strike against the Govt. Injustice. Like the the Central Govt. Employees, the State Govt. Employees, the Public Sector Employees, the Employees of Banks, Insurance and the workers in all sectors will participate in this general strike on 7th September, 2010.

SNATTA CHQ should take decisions with utmost Care and Maturity.
Any immature decision or hasty verdict will permanently weaken the Image of SNATTA

Though i have already floated the message as per CHQ Instructions in my District Chandigarh, but i think CHQ was overly Diplomatic on this particular Issue.

As you people now that i don't mail much on the group but it does not imply that i do not follow the group.
this time i was compelled to inform the group regarding my personal opinion.

This mail is not posted to offend anybody but only written at a crucial time for a crucial reason because SNATTA's only existence is at stake. This should be treated as my personal view only.


Note: This AIC is of utmost importance and i appeal every one of its members who has a feeling for this association must attend this conference in Goa.


with due regards,

Rajeev Kumar Mandal
+91 94176 88844 (Mobile)
0172-2010000 (WLL)

Former Joint Secretary North, SNATTA INDIA,
District Secretary, SNATTA, Chd
LCM Member, Chd
Vice-President, BSNLEU, Chd

Messages in this topic (2)
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2b. Re: Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 10:13 am ((PDT))

Hello Friends,

I am also agree with and i also sent my resentment to CHQ and CC, CS and i was
on the strike. Friends before taking this type of decision CHQ must have to
think about the position of their members because many of us including myself
sitting on the union Chairs. How can i follow the orders of CHQ just before 12
hours its really impossible for us. Till afternoon i m asking everyone who is
calling me yes participate in the strike including TMs except new recruited
friends how can i ask him to now i will not participate in the strike. will the
same persons give me response when i ask again for strike in the future answer
very clear NO.

If the CHQ was right then why not he instructed us before one or two
week.Secondly will our GS or president tell me why we taking chairs form BSNLEU
after fight. For example just take the example of Hoshiarpur Punjab. Here I am
the President of both BSNLEU and SNATTA. If I have the instructions well
before then i will pressurize the unions for our demands now what we got
nothing. friends we are taking chairs for our demands not for politics.What i
feel we are taking the chairs i am sorry to say that our senior leaders dont
know how to use these chairs we can got everything if we going step by step.
Whether CHQ writing any letter to all unions and association for their non
participating if yes then why not they upload on yahoo. If no then how can CHQ
taking this decision with their CC and Central coordinators why not taking their
members in confidence well before.
THIS EPISODE SHOWS THAT STILL WE CHILD AND OUR ACTIONS STILL NOT MATURE
WITH REGARDS Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556


preet


________________________________
From: naveen yadav <yadav16_smile@rediffmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 7 September, 2010 7:25:19 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.

FRD'S
I AM AGREE WITH MR MANDAL ON THIS HOT ISSUE OF TODAY STRIKE. THIS IS NOT THE
RIGHT TIME TO SHOW OUR RESENTMENT. THE DICISION TO SUPPORT MORALLY BUT NOT TO
GO ON STRIKE CREATE CONFUSION BETWEEN US. THE STRIKE NOTICE WAS GIVEN BY THE
BSNLEU UNION ONE MONTH BEFORE. WE HAVE AN ENOUGH TIME TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM ALL
DISTRICT AND CIRCLE BODY AND ALSO IT SHOULD BE DISSCUS ON GROUP. AFTER THAT CHQ
SHOULD BE DECIDE TO TAKE A HEALTHY AND DEMOCRATIC DECISION.

NAVEEN YADAV
LUDHIANA

3. Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.
Posted by: "rajeev mandal" rkm_delhi25@yahoo.co.uk rkm_delhi25
Date: Mon Sep 6, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))

Burning Issue about the United STRIKE by all India CPSU.

Dear all,

i want to share one of my Personal Opinion on WHY we should participate in
STRIKE.??
the below message is totally belongs to me and not influenced by anyone.

As this platform is formed to discuss our views and to take the All India view
so i am hereby presenting my view on the Today's 's strike.

i agree to Disagree with SNATTA CHQ's decision to extend ONLY MORAL SUPPORT to
an Issue of a Critical Importance and bearing for all PSU's of India.
Also SNATTA CHQ is suppose to issue clear-cut guidelines well before time and
should not issue Diplomatic Instructions which amounts to wide spread confusion
among the members. The msg updated on the SNATTA website does not instruct its
members whether to participate in the STRIKE called by CPSU's of India against
the govt Injustice, apathy and betrayal of the Nation by issuing diktats which
will in the long run will make the profit making PSU into loss making one's. And
paved the way for the ultimate disinvestments.
this issue is of particular importance to the whole Nation's union and
association of India have forgo their personal or individual issues in support
of the MAJOR CAUSE and we should United under a common umbrella. this strike
should not be hampered or hijacked by any association or unions for their own
sake.
this type of Anti-National activity will not lead to anything BUT it will only
tarnish our image beyond repair and SNATTA will be treated a treacherous to the
Nation till its very existence.


SNATTA CHQ has dictate instructions to support the strike morally but how we are
supporting the strike as per CHQ guideline whereas at the same time we are
instructed to boycott the strike so how we are morally supporting the strike,
how will we justify the CHQ's stand of morally supporting the issue of national
importance. we have seen number of Nationwide strikes called by Joint Action
Committee and not a single time AIGETOA have supported the issue concerning the
BSNL's existence. And all the time this particular association has boycotted
from being part of JAC which is detrimental to very existence of BSNL. At this
very juncture, it seems that our CHQ is very much influenced by AIGETOA and
taking arbitrary and unjustified decisions which will not only weaken SNATTA but
also put up a question mark on the leadership quality of SNATTA.

there is a time and place for every Action and this is my firm believe that this
is not the platform to show our resentment which will lead to nothing because
this is not a strike called by BSNLEU alone and we cannot expect to arm twist
them to speedify our demands.
this kind of resentment will show us in bad spirits and as a whole our
associating Will be treated as immature, incompetent and without foresight.
Almost every Union and Association is going to participate in this strike
against the Govt. Injustice. Like the the Central Govt. Employees, the State
Govt. Employees, the Public Sector Employees, the Employees of Banks, Insurance
and the workers in all sectors will participate in this general strike on 7th
September, 2010.

SNATTA CHQ should take decisions with utmost Care and Maturity.
Any immature decision or hasty verdict will permanently weaken the Image of
SNATTA

Though i have already floated the message as per CHQ Instructions in my District
Chandigarh, but i think CHQ was overly Diplomatic on this particular Issue.

As you people now that i don't mail much on the group but it does not imply that
i do not follow the group.
this time i was compelled to inform the group regarding my personal opinion.

This mail is not posted to offend anybody but only written at a crucial time for
a crucial reason because SNATTA's only existence is at stake. This should be
treated as my personal view only.


Note: This AIC is of utmost importance and i appeal every one of its members who
has a feeling for this association must attend this conference in Goa.


with due regards,

Rajeev Kumar Mandal
+91 94176 88844 (Mobile)
0172-2010000 (WLL)

Former Joint Secretary North, SNATTA INDIA,
District Secretary, SNATTA, Chd
LCM Member, Chd
Vice-President, BSNLEU, Chd



Messages in this topic (2)
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3a. CIRCLE COUNCIL MEETING OF BIHAR CIRCLE
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:28 am ((PDT))

I am very much thankful to the SNATTA Bihar circle and BSNLEU Bihar circle to
invite me to attend the circle council meeting as a guest.
Apart from all other items there was an item for provision of GSM mobile
connection to all TTAs working in Bihar Circle. At this point Honorable CGM
asked the opinion from the field GMs present there for their views. In reply GMs
said that we should provide them the connections. GM mobile said that he
has already given GSM connection with 3G facility as per requirement. On this
the honorable CGM said that he would have been pleased if this demand has came
from GMs. As it is in the favour of department. On this I asked him to issue
some order to field units but he said that GMs are competent authority for this
and they should provide it.

At last I beg some time and said that we r deprived of promotions for last
10yrs (last exam held 10years back). As Bihar has no diversion quota so it
should proceed with the promotions. On this he said that although it is sub
judice he will look into the matter and asked GM(ADMN) to communicate it with
corporate office.

MAY I REQUEST OUR RESPECTABLE FORMER GS MR DHEERAJ CHOUDHARY JI AND GS MR
DHARMENDRA VARMA JI TO PLEASE GO FOR A LIFT FROM THE BAN ON THE PROMOTION
PROCESS IN THE CIRCLES WHERE THERE IS NO OFFICIATING JTOs IN THE NEXT HEARING AT
COURT CASES.

Deepak Kumar
9431610399


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3b. Re: CIRCLE COUNCIL MEETING OF BIHAR CIRCLE
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:47 am ((PDT))

well done, well done, and well done.

no words for Deepak Kumar..!!

you doing a great Job in raising good points at good junctures.

pls keep it up brother........

regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh.*

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> I am very much thankful to the SNATTA Bihar circle and BSNLEU Bihar circle
> to invite me to attend the circle council meeting as a guest.
> Apart from all other items there was an item for provision of GSM mobile
> connection to all TTAs working in Bihar Circle. At this point Honorable CGM
> asked the opinion from the field GMs present there for their views. In reply
> GMs said that we should provide them the connections. GM mobile said that he
> has already given GSM connection with 3G facility as per requirement. On
> this the honorable CGM said that he would have been pleased if this demand
> has came from GMs. As it is in the favour of department. On this I asked
> him to issue some order to field units but he said that GMs are competent
> authority for this and they should provide it.
>
> At last I beg some time and said that we r deprived of promotions for last
> 10yrs (last exam held 10years back). As Bihar has no diversion quota so it
> should proceed with the promotions. On this he said that although it is sub
> judice he will look into the matter and asked GM(ADMN) to communicate it
> with corporate office.
>
> *MAY I REQUEST OUR RESPECTABLE FORMER GS MR DHEERAJ CHOUDHARY JI AND GS MR
> DHARMENDRA VARMA JI TO PLEASE GO FOR A LIFT FROM THE BAN ON THE PROMOTION
> PROCESS IN THE CIRCLES WHERE THERE IS NO OFFICIATING JTOs IN THE NEXT
> HEARING AT COURT CASES.*
>
> Deepak Kumar
> 9431610399
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (2)
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4a. in which class we can travel while on official work to other station
Posted by: "Pranesh" pranesh14@gmail.com davidpranesh
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

hi friends,

when TTA go for official work to other cirle(state) . which
class RAILWAY or BUS facility he is eligible.
some friends told me that we are eligible for 2nd AC. but we
have to attach tickets while claming TA bill.
is it right???

plz give me some guidence......


Regards--
*PRANESH KUMAR*
*BSNL FEROZEPUR*
*PUNJAB*
*M-09465808922*


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4b. Re: in which class we can travel while on official work to other sta
Posted by: "Er. Munish Bhatheja" getmoni2001@yahoo.com bhatheja_munish
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:03 am ((PDT))

Yes this is right
 Er. Munish Bhatheja

TTA Group Abohar,
LCM, Ferozepur SSA.
Mob : 09417078787


________________________________
From: Pranesh <pranesh14@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 7 September, 2010 9:20:31 PM
Subject: TTABSNL in which class we can travel while on official work to other
station( circle)

 
hi friends,

               when TTA go for official work to other cirle(state) . which class
RAILWAY or BUS facility he is eligible.
               some friends told me that we are eligible for 2nd AC. but we have
to attach tickets while claming TA bill.
               is it right???

              plz give me some guidence......


Regards--

PRANESH KUMAR
BSNL FEROZEPUR
PUNJAB
M-09465808922

Messages in this topic (3)
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4c. Re: in which class we can travel while on official work to other sta
Posted by: "pawan singh" s_pawansingh@yahoo.co.in s_pawansingh
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:08 am ((PDT))

we r eligible for 3rd a.c. rail fair.

--- On Tue, 7/9/10, Pranesh <pranesh14@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Pranesh <pranesh14@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL in which class we can travel while on official work to other station( circle)
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 7 September, 2010, 9:20 PM


 


hi friends,


               when TTA go for official work to other cirle(state) . which class RAILWAY or BUS facility he is eligible.
               some friends told me that we are eligible for 2nd AC. but we have to attach tickets while claming TA bill.
               is it right???


              plz give me some guidence......


Regards--

PRANESH KUMAR
BSNL FEROZEPUR
PUNJAB
M-09465808922
 
 
 
 
 

Messages in this topic (3)
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5. WHY THE PROMOTION IS NOT IN THE AGENDA OF BSNLEU?
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:46 am ((PDT))

Dear GS BSNLEU

As we all are aware of the fact that there is no any departmental promotional
exams in the cadre of JTO, there was a single exam in the cadre of JAO, single
exam in the cadre of TTA in the last 10years. Sir but there is external exams
in these cadre for multiple times in this period. As you know sir that there was
a exam for JTO way back in 2000. Person who was not able to appear in that exam
for any reasons or not qualifying that didn't get a second chance. How miserable
is this sir? Persons who get qualified in that exam have become SDEs by now and
who didn't qualify is still non -executive and no hope in future too. Should one
be punished up to this extent for a single mistake of not appearing or not
clearing the exam? Shouldn't he deserves another chance. There is
promotion calendar in PSUs and Banks where exams are held every year and one
get chance to appear in it every year. And this pain more.

Sir, there are various demonstrations, strikes, agitations under the banner of
BSNLEU and we look for this agenda every time but get depressed by not seeing
them. Why BSNLEU have ignored this item? Carrier progression is the utmost
priority in the quality of job and by denying this you are discouraging the
working community of the department as well as new comers.

So sir it is my humble request to you to please discuss this in your upcoming
extended CEC at Nagpur and do the justice to all non executive by adding it as a
permanent agenda in any further programs.

Wish you a very good luck for the upcoming CEC

Regards
Deepak Kumar
ACS, BSNLEU
Bihar
9431610399

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6. Fw: WHY THE PROMOTION IS NOT IN THE AGENDA OF BSNLEU?
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:47 am ((PDT))

Dear friends
all of u know that there is extended CEC of BSNLEU in the last week of Sept
2010. all the district secy are attending this meeting. please convince your
dist secy BSNLEU to raise the same issue in that CEC. dear friend IGNITE the
FIRE within him and show him that even he become JTO if exams are held, so that
he aggressively put this issue. try to convince as many dist secy we can. Sr
TOAs will be easy to motivate than TMs or RMs

regards
deepak kmar
9431610399


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
To: snattachq@gmail.com; TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com; chqbsnleu@sify.com
Cc: snattabihar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 9:02:44 PM
Subject: WHY THE PROMOTION IS NOT IN THE AGENDA OF BSNLEU?


Dear GS BSNLEU

As we all are aware of the fact that there is no any departmental promotional
exams in the cadre of JTO, there was a single exam in the cadre of JAO, single
exam in the cadre of TTA in the last 10years. Sir but there is external exams
in these cadre for multiple times in this period. As you know sir that there was
a exam for JTO way back in 2000. Person who was not able to appear in that exam
for any reasons or not qualifying that didn't get a second chance. How miserable
is this sir? Persons who get qualified in that exam have become SDEs by now and
who didn't qualify is still non -executive and no hope in future too. Should one
be punished up to this extent for a single mistake of not appearing or not
clearing the exam? Shouldn't he deserves another chance. There is
promotion calendar in PSUs and Banks where exams are held every year and one
get chance to appear in it every year. And this pain more.

Sir, there are various demonstrations, strikes, agitations under the banner of
BSNLEU and we look for this agenda every time but get depressed by not seeing
them. Why BSNLEU have ignored this item? Carrier progression is the utmost
priority in the quality of job and by denying this you are discouraging the
working community of the department as well as new comers.

So sir it is my humble request to you to please discuss this in your upcoming
extended CEC at Nagpur and do the justice to all non executive by adding it as a
permanent agenda in any further programs.

Wish you a very good luck for the upcoming CEC

Regards
Deepak Kumar
ACS, BSNLEU
Bihar
9431610399


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7. PC Suite for Chinese Mobiles
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:01 am ((PDT))

Get PC Suite for Chinese Mobiles from the following link. It some times work
with G5, Micromax etc. also.
http://www.h33t.com/details.php?id=ef43e280051c20f90ef6a440ecabdcdd7853fc74
 
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
SIliguri
West Bengal
Ph-(0)94343-09229 


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8. 3G services and third-generation tariff wars
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:06 am ((PDT))

3G services and third-generation tariff wars

Finally the country is set to see the rollout of 3G services with the
government allocating spectrum to the winning operators. By the time we bid
adieu to 2010, hopefully the first beginnings of such services providing
high data download and video streaming would have begun.

The high bid prices have somewhat spoiled the party for the operators as
none of them could bag the spectrum in all the 22 circles of the country.
Therefore, there's apprehension that 3G services would come at a premium,
meaning the tariffs would be high and so it would be subscribed by a
minuscule section of the society.

On the face of it, the logic seems fine as some operators have also made a
case for high tariffs. However, if one analyses the dynamics of our telecom
market the case for high tariffs for 3G services does not hold water. The
Indian telecom market has undergone change in such a manner that purely
cost-based tariffs don't work any more. Look at the 2G market: Vodafone
acquired Hutch's stake in 2007 at over $11 billion, so ideally tariffs for
its services should have been high, but that's not the case!

If tariffs are determined by competition in the market then there's going to
be enough. Seven private operators have bagged the spectrum and would be
starting the services around the same time. Add to this the two state-run
players, MTNL and BSNL, which already have services although subscription
remains low, and the stage is set for a competitive market that would be no
different from the current 2G services.

Another reason for the tariffs to be competitive could be that since a bunch
of operators would begin services around the same time, they would offer
enough freebies to attract subscribers. Further, there's just not the
possibility of voice tariffs to be higher than the 2G one or else
subscribers would not migrate to 3G, which the operators want in metro
cities to decongest their 2G networks. What is likely to happen is that data
download services could be priced slightly higher than voice services.

Here some initial, one-time costs could be involved which the subscribers
would have to pay. In fact, a cursory glance at the tariffs offered by MTNL
and BSNL does not show any major tariff difference between 2G and 3G
services. It, certainly, would be interesting to see how the latest, coming
round of 3G tariff war pans out in the industry.

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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9. Health Article>> Warning signs: Why am I so tired?
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:06 am ((PDT))

Warning signs: Why am I so tired?*pls read the last paragraph*

Do you feel so exhausted that even combing your hair or brushing your teeth
seems like climbing Everest? If you do feel this way and also keep coming
down with skin allergies and joint pain, then it's time to seek a
specialist's help. There's a debilitating syndrome that's silently creeping
upon urban Indians, but is little known and often misdiagnosed. Known as
Sjogren's Syndrome (ss) and pronounced 'show grins', it is an autoimmune
disease wherein the body's immune system mistakenly attacks its own
moisture-producing glands.

Genetic and environmental factors are one of the several causes of this
syndrome but not much is known about the exact triggers. It is more
prevalent in people where there is a family history of autoimmune illnesses
like hypothyroidism and type I diabetes. Low-levels of SS-B (La) antibodies
in the blood could activate the syndrome while physical and mental stress
can make a person more susceptible to it. Pollution is also cited as one of
the causes of SS; however, no research has been carried out to determine the
exact pollutants. Women above the age of 35 have reason to worry as 90 per
cent of ss patients belong to this category. It progresses slowly and takes
over five to six years to get diagnosed.

"Sjogren's Syndrome cases are on the rise in India. At least four to five
patients visit my clinic every month."Dr Reena Sharma, Ahmedabad

"I have been living with this syndrome for over five years now. I always
carry a bottle of water and eye drops with me."Kirtida Oza, Ahmedabad

As Sjogren's is a syndrome, it is a combination of several signs and
symptoms. Patients affected by SS are more prone to pneumonia, liver
failure, kidney failure and other internal organ damage. A small percentage
of patients could even develop cancer of the lymph glands. "The probability
of a SS patient getting cancer has increased by over 30 times as compared to
the general population," says Dr Amita Aggarwal, vice-president of the
Indian Rheumatology Association and assistant professor, Sanjay Gandhi
Postgraduate Institute of Medical Sciences, Lucknow. Sjogren's is classified
into two types-primary and secondary. In primary syndrome, the tear and
salivary glands are affected which results in the dryness of the eyes and
mouth; secondary SS occurs with another disease like rheumatic arthritis,
lupus or scleroderma. According to Dr Aggarwal, "Doctors are finding it
difficult to spot the primary syndrome compared to the secondary one."

Like it happened with Pratibha Gupta, a 50-year-old housewife from Lucknow,
who went to the doctor following joint pain. It was diagnosed as rheumatoid
arthritis. Meanwhile, she lost five teeth due to caries and her dentist had
advised filling. These tell-tale symptoms were accompanied by a gritty
sensation in her eyes and oral dryness. Further, she had two episodes of
parotid swelling that were treated with antibiotics and painkillers. But her
doctors had missed out completely on suspecting Sjogren's Syndrome.

Some of the major manifestations of the ss include hypokalemic periodic
paralysis in which excessive dehydration leads to low level of potassium in
the blood leading to the paralysis and renal tubular acidosis in which the
kidneys fail to excrete acids into urine. In some cases, SS patients might
also develop parotid swelling, the swelling of the largest salivary gland in
the mouth. In India, people are unaware of the existence of ss. For almost
five years, Ahmedabad-based Kirtida Oza, 47, made several rounds to the
doctor's clinic until she was diagnosed with SS. "I didn't know what was
happening to me and even the doctors failed to diagnose it," she says.
However, such cases are on the rise. Dr Reena Sharma, rheumatologist at
Shalby Hospital, Ahmedabad, says at least four to five patients suffering
from SS visit her in a month.

Besides general blood tests, a number of simple diagnostic tests like the
Schirmer eye test, lip biopsy, salivary scintigraphy and parotid scans can
be performed to determine whether a person is suffering from Sjogren's or
not. Though there is no specific cure, SS can be kept under control with
medication and precautions. Treatment depends on the organ that is affected
in the syndrome. Currently, research to find a concrete cure is underway at
the Christian Medical College and Hospital (CMC), Vellore. "We are working
on the use of Omega-3 fatty acid (fish oil) to treat SS. However, it is
still at an observational stage," says Dr Debashish Danda, professor and
head, clinical immunology and rheumatology, CMC. But SS leads to alterations
in the lifestyle as performing hectic activities becomes difficult as these
patients tend to get exhausted easily. Other symptoms like breathlessness or
dryness of the eyes also need care. "You will never see me without eye drops
and a water bottle. They are the two most indispensable things of my life
now," Oza says.

Dr Ramani Atkuri, 46, who lives near Bilaspur in Chhattisgarh, was diagnosed
with primary SS five years ago. "I am a doctor and so is my husband but even
then we couldn't diagnose it initially," says Atkuri. Severe phases of
exhaustion would take her by surprise but she didn't pay much heed. Her
ophthalmologist referred her to a rheumatologist and it was then SS was
detected. Atkuri's work requires her to travel a lot but now she has cut
down on it considerably. "After a day at work, I can't do anything. I just
reach home and fall asleep," she says, adding that it takes her a couple of
days to regain her lost energy. The message is clear. Ignoring those subtle
signs of dryness, exhaustion and joint pains can lead to serious
complications and a little known syndrome called Sjogren's.

Related AilmentsMajor manifestations of Sjogren's Syndrome

- Autoimmune thyroiditis can lead to abnormal thyroid hormone levels.

- Gastroesophageal reflux disease can cause heartburn and difficulty in
swallowing.

- Primary biliary cirrhosis, an autoimmune disease of the liver, can lead to
scarring of liver tissues.

- Cancer of the lymph glands.

- Hypokalemic periodic paralysis in which excessive dehydration leads to low
level of potassium in the blood leading to paralysis.

- Renal tubular acidosis in which the kidneys fail to excrete acids into
urine.

*Preventive Measures Precautions that keep this syndrome under control*

- Moisture replacement therapy to ease dryness.

- Eye drops to reduce inflammation of the tear glands.

- Drinking plenty of fluids to treat oral dryness.

- Proper dental hygiene to avoid dental decay.

- Sucking sugarless lemon drops or glycerin swabs to help stimulate salivary
glands.


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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10. some useful documents
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:07 am ((PDT))

some useful documents
 mANAs kUMAr sAHa



6 of 6 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1080122085/item/list

mail settings.txt
What can I do with 1 GB.doc
USB Worm.doc
Password Strength & Password Security.doc
Virus and Remedies.doc
letter from CMD BSNL.pdf

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11. A Message to all CC/CS................pls. pay attention............
Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:07 am ((PDT))


hallo sir,

As you are well known that a committee will form under head of Mr.
D.P.Dey (GM Estt.) for solving the wage-issue of new DRTTA's (2007 &
2008 batch).

With many of you I have also recieved SMS from Mr. Dharmendra Verma Ji.
GS/SNATTA, regarding making some new formula to be benifitial for NEW
TTA's except FITMENT/ PAY-PROTECTION.

However it is very difficult to find another way but before to go to
committee, we must should prepare some alternative formula apart from
FITMENT.

I've called a core-committee meeting today in my circle today on this
issue. I'll try today to make a dedicated group of 4/5 TTA's to study
the present situation.

I am requesting here all CC/CS of all circles to kindly make such small
committee of dedicated person, so that our GS can put the demand
strongly before COMMITTEE.

However, I once again want to convey to all of you and our GS that our
main demand should always be FITMENT-BENEFIT to all TTA's (rectd. before
07/05/2010) on the same line as per used by Govt. of Tamilnadu and Govt.
of Gujrat. Because, this is the point on which management had decided to
form a committee for resolving this issue. So, in my point view, our
full effort should be demanding of FITMENT-BENEFIT.

But, when our GS will attend the meeting then, he must has some other
formula also, to show management that WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR HOMEWORK.

--

REMEMBER TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE


Thanks & Regards,

Santosh Anand
CS/SNATTA CTD
+91 9432844455

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12. Study leave
Posted by: "Hanmant Mohite" hdmohite@yahoo.com hdmohite
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:07 am ((PDT))

Is there any ruleing that one can not avail study leave before complition of 5
years of service.

one of our DRTTA of 2008 batch seeking study leave for complition of his final
year of BE.
He has completed his probation of 2 years.
The Admin people at sangli says that one can not avail study leave before
complition of 5 years of service.

please provide any supplimentary is available.

Thanking you
Hanmanth Mohite
TTA, Broadband
Sangli, Maharashtra
9 4 2 1 1  5 0 5 0 0

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13a. Re: WIN32 VIRUS
Posted by: "pradeep aggarwal" generation4m@yahoo.com generation4m
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:08 am ((PDT))

TO GET RID OF WIN32 GENERIC PROCESS ERROR OF WINXP
VISIT THE WWW.ONLY4ENGG.COM
AND ALSO VARIOUS FEATURES HELPFULL FOR BSNL BROADBAND LIKE
BSNL USAGE FINDER
BANDWIDTH METER
SECURING WIFI MODEM ETC

MORE UPDATES FOR BSNL WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON

________________________________
From: swarup <swarup_raju2007@rediffmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 9:36:01 AM
Subject: TTABSNL WIN32 VIRUS


pls help me out.

HOW TO GET RID OF WIN32 VIRUS?

swarup


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14. Fact versus Opinions
Posted by: "Yasin Sindhi" ygsindhi_mln@yahoo.co.in ygsindhi_mln
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:08 am ((PDT))


 
Fact versus Opinions

Many times we create confusion when we add our own opinions to facts and come up
with wrong conclusions.


For example:

FACT: Two people are whispering when you walk up. Suddenly they stop talking.
OPINION: They must be gossiping about me.

FACT: A new lady is appointed in my department.
OPINION: They will ask me to leave!

FACT: He has reported about me to authorities.
OPINION: They will blacklist me. I am now ruined & finished!

Many a times we tend to behave negatively due to our own adverse opinions. We
feel people per se are hostile & unfriendly. We become anxious & fearful for no
good reason in a situation which is relatively safe.

It is said: “Men are disturbed not by things that happen, but by their opinions
of the things that happen.” --


Regards,
Er.Yasin Sindhi
BSC-WLL, PALANPUR (N.G.)
M: +919429361555

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15. 3G data card
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:08 am ((PDT))

Hai, Is there any one from Sells Team? I want BSNL 3G-data Card. It is not available in my Circle. Please give me your contact no.
 
Shasikanta,
TTA-Mobile,
NE-II Circle.

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16a. Burning
Posted by: "salai dayalan" sbsdaya@yahoo.co.in sbsdaya
Date: Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:08 am ((PDT))

Hello friends,
                   I am salai dayalan madurai(district) Tamil nadu
Are you have BSNL TTA Question and answer pls send me.
Thank you

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