Sunday, June 13, 2010

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1781[1 Attachment]

There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. pay reduction after 2nd wage revision
From: VENKATESAN RAD

2. Constipation: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

3a. Re: Fw: [TTABSNL] Wage revision-a big zero for 2008 batch TTAs!
From: Gireesh Kumar

4a. Re: Fw: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL
From: JASVIR JASSAL

5a. Re: 14& 16 JUNE AGITATIONS
From: Razz Dcool

6a. Re: Fw: LAKHS OF LOSS [1 Attachment]
From: maneesh kp

7a. Re: OLD HR NO SHOULD NOT BE DETED
From: MohammedZuber Sheikh


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1. pay reduction after 2nd wage revision
Posted by: "VENKATESAN RAD" venk212@yahoo.com venk212
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:31 am ((PDT))

From
          
            DRTTAs2007& 2008,
            Members of BSNLEU,
            Dharmapuri SSA
            Tamilnadu Telecom Circle
           
To
            Circle Secretary,
            BSNLEU,
            Tamil Nadu,
 
Dear Comrade,
 
 
Ref:
 
Injustice occurs with the direct recruited TTA of BSNL, who were appointed on or after 01-01-2007.
Sub:-
 
Merging of Scale NE-9, NE-10 and NE-11 with E-1 as proposed before Or Five no. of increment to be added for fixing up the initial basic salary on the pay scale NE-9, 13600-25420 for the direct recruited T.T.A. who are appointed after 01-01-2007
 
We would like to bring your kind attention to an important point which is to be treated as the most urgent.
 
This is very painful that Basic salary in the new pay scale of the newly recruited T.T.A.s in BSNL is decreasing due to the new pay-fixation formula. BSNL Management Committee & BSNLEU laid the proposal of merger of NE-9, NE-10 and NE-11 with E-1on the wage committee meeting held on 18th December'2009 as circulated by BSNLEU website. But on15/01/2010 we got the scale NE-9, 13600 - 25420 only.
 
The following representation about DR T.T.A, Who has joined on or after 01.01.2007.
Salary as on 01.06.2010 in the old pay scale of 7100-200-10100 is as follows
 
7300*1.5 (50% IDA merger) =10950*1.775 (IDA is 77.5%) =Rs19436/-.
 
On account of wage revision in the new pay scale of 13600-25420 would be
 
13600(+3 %)*1.348 (new IDA is 34.8%) =14010*1.348=Rs 18883/-.
 
So, Basic salary is reduced by (19436-18883)= Rs.553/-.Though it will be not allowed as Personal Pay because we are not in PAY-PROTECTION, as our DOJ is in August 2008, and in September 2008 , the new pay-scale is better than old payscale.
 
 
 
 
 
 
PARA 3.4.2 OF WAGE-AGREEMENT:_
 
 
The expected fitment and DA merger, whatever it may be, is due w.e.f.01.01. 2007. All the staffs were eagerly waiting for it and they hoped the union that would not let them down. But unfortunately this fitment and DA merger is not applicable to the young, dynamic and well qualified DRTTA 2007& 2008 batches TTAs since they were not in service as on 01.01.2007. Instead, they will be placed in the new pay scale of TTA cadre. Here the danger is! If we go through the pay scale revision of Executives then we will come to know that the executive cadre's starting scales have been revised by a multiplication factor of around 1.9.[Eg.-E2 pre revised-10750. Revised-20600(10750*1.916) ]. Considering the entire practical aspects one can't expect a multiplication factor of more than 1.9 for non executive's starting pay scales. If it is done so then the TTA's starting scale of 7100 will be revised as around Rs.13600. The 2008 batch TTAs will be placed in this
revised scale. It seems to be too sweety;isn't it? But the revised DA is only 16% today! So the total monthly benefits for a 2008 batch TTA would be just around Rs.500 only. There is no need to explain that these highly productive TTAs will be extremely frustrated when the other non executives get a monthly increment of around Rs.5000. They have already witnessed their JTOs and SDEs benefitted by 10000-15000 per month.
 
In all previous wage revisions, the new employees were highly benefitted. But this time it seems to be a slap at the face of the new entrants. The new JTOs who joined after 01.01.2007 got a reduced salary after the wage revision. The leaders of executive unions ignored the problems of new JTOs. We hope BSNLEU will not take such a step mother attitude towards the new TTAs.
The one and only one solution of this problem is to up grade the TTA pay scale to Rs.9200. The revised of which is expected to be around 17500. Unfortunately BSNLEU, in their charter of demands, only demanded the pay scale up gradation of TMs,Sr.TOAs, Driver,Cable jointer,Casual workers etc. No TTA is there. It is highly discriminative as even a blind can see.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The TTAs were getting a basic pay of Rs.7100 (Equivalent to 5000 of CDA). Now the CDA scale of 5000 has been upgraded to 9300+4200 grade pay (2.7 times). So the Rs.7100 scale has to be upgraded to Rs.19170 by all means. Now the difference between a Diploma Engineer and a B.Tech Engineer in Govt. department is just Rs.400 only (B.Tech Engineer now gets 9300+4600 grade pay). But in BSNL the difference between TTA and JTO is 2750. There are no scales in between a Diploma Engineer and B.Tech Engineer in Govt.departments. But in BSNL there are too many scales in between TTA & JTO. 
 
Management has given a fitment ranging from 30% to lower level executives and upto around 70% to higher level executives. Our union stated it several times to claim more than 30% fitment for non executives. . Considering all these facts we demand pay scale need to be upgraded to E1 scale or Five no. of increment to be added for fixing up the initial basic salary on the pay scale NE-9, 13600-25420 for the direct recruited T.T.A. who are appointed after 01-01-2007
 
Anticipating a favourable action from your side,
 
 
Yours faithfully
 
 DRTTA 2007&2008 batches
 
Copy to : 1,Com.VAN Namboodiri,GS, BSNLEU
               2,CHQ,SNATTA
               3,To each &every TTA through our network



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2. Constipation: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:31 am ((PDT))

*Constipation: Health Tip of the Day!*


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,

Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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3a. Re: Fw: [TTABSNL] Wage revision-a big zero for 2008 batch TTAs!
Posted by: "Gireesh Kumar" gireesh.klm@gmail.com gireesh_kumar_m
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:18 am ((PDT))

Dear Santhosh,

Mr Abhilash, CC Kerala is giving a lot of moral support to Post 2007 TTAs at
Trivandrum SSA. He tried to convince us the anomaly issues even before the
approval of draft agreement, but we were not able to act according to his
words. We know he is doing excellent work to solve the anomaly. He is always
supporting us ....

BSNLEU leaders agreed to conduct an SSA level meeting of all TTAs at
Trivandrum by the end of this month to discuss the issues on wage anomaly,
JTO Exam etc. ..


Gireesh, TTA, Trivandrum SSA

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:07 PM, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

>
>
>
> Dear Santhosh,
> These are some mails I sent to EU leaders before the wage revision
> anticipating your present agony. Doing something before the agreement was
> much more better.
> Abhilash V
> CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
>
> --- On *Sat, 13/6/09, abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>*wrote:
>
>
> From: abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] Wage revision-a big zero for 2008 batch TTAs! [1
> Attachment]
> To: circlesecretarybsnleu@gmail.com
> Date: Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 11:08 AM
>
> From
> Abhilash.V,
> Central coordinator,
> SNATTA,
> Kerala.
> To
> K.Mohanan,
> Circle Secretary,
> BSNLEU,
> Kerala.
> Dear Comrade,
> I would like to bring your kind attention to an important point which is to
> be treated as the most urgent.
> The expected fitment and DA merger, whatever it may be, is due w.e.f.01.01.
> 2007. All the staff are eagerly waiting for it and they hope the union will
> not let them down. But unfortunately this fitment and DA merger is
> not applicable to the young, dynamic and well qualified 2008 batch TTAs
> since they were not in service as on 01.01.2007. Instead, they will be
> placed in the new pay scale of TTA cadre. Here the danger is! If we go
> through the pay scale revision of Executives then we will come to know that
> the executive cadre's starting scales have been revised by a multiplication
> factor of around 1.9.[Eg.-E2 pre revised-10750. Revised-20600( 10750*1.916)
> ]. Considering all the practical aspects one can't expect a multiplication
> factor of more than 1.9 for non executive's starting pay scales. If it is
> done so then the TTA's starting scale of 7100 will be revised as around
> Rs.13500. The 2008 batch TTAs will be placed in this revised scale. It seems
> to be too sweety;isn't it? But the revised DA is only 16% today! So the
> total monthly benefits for a 2008 batch TTA would be just around Rs.500
> only. There is no need to explain that this highly productive TTAs will be
> extremely frustrated when the other non executives get a monthly increment
> of around Rs.5000. They have already witnessed their JTOs and SDEs
> benefitted by 10000-15000 per month.
> In all previous wage revisions, the new employees were highly benefitted.
> But this time it seems to be a slap at the face of the new entrants. The new
> JTOs who joined after 01.01.2007 got a reduced salary after the wage
> revision. The leaders of executive unions ignored the problems of new JTOs.
> We hope BSNLEU will not take such a step mother attitude towards the new
> TTAs.
> The one and only one solution of this problem is to up grade the TTA pay
> scale to Rs.9200. The revised of which is expected to be around 17500.
> Unfortunately BSNLEU, in their charter of demands, only demanded the pay
> scale up gradation of TMs,Sr.TOAs, Driver,Cable jointer,Casual workers etc.
> No TTA is there. It is highly discriminative as even a blind can see.
> The TTAs were getting a basic pay of Rs.7100(Equivalent to 5000 of CDA).
> Now the CDA scale of 5000 has been upgraded to 9300+4200 grade pay(2.7
> times). So the Rs.7100 scale has to be upgraded to Rs.19170 by all means.
> Now the difference between a Diploma Engineer and a B.Tech Engineer in Govt.
> department is just Rs.400 only(B.Tech Engineer now gets 9300+4600 grade
> pay). But in BSNL the difference between TTA and JTO is 2750. There is no
> scales in between a Diploma Engineer and B.Tech Engineer in
> Govt.departments. But in BSNL there are too many scales in between TTA &
> JTO.
> When an internal exam was called for to the post of Junior Hindi
> Translator, TTAs couldn't attend it because it's scale was same as TTA. Only
> those employees who were placed in the lower pay scale than TTA were allowed
> to write the exam. Now in DoT, Junior Hindi Translator has been placed in
> pre revised 6500 and the revised 9300+4200 scale. So executive unions have
> demanded the pre revised Rs.9850 scale for Junior Hindi Translators in BSNL.
> It is crystal clear that TTAs have all the rights to get the same pay
> scale(JTO's scale may be up graded to E2(10750) scale).
> Management has given a fitment ranging from 30% to lower level executives
> and upto around 70% to higher level executives. Our union stated it several
> times to claim more than 30% fitment for non executives. The same fitment
> method should be applied to non executives also. i.e.30% fitment to lower
> level non executives and upto 70% fitment for higher level non executives.
> It has been demanded by NFTE also. I hope our union will raise this genuine
> demand in the coming wage committees.
> Considering all these facts we demand a pre revised Rs.9200 pay scale for
> TTA and a point-to-point fixation on it with effect from 01.10.2000. Please
> go through our represention attached herewith.
> Our CHQ has informed all these facts to Com.VAN Namboodiri. Being the NCM
> member and CS of a Circle where BSNLEU got the highest majority, you deserve
> a sound voice in your CHQ and we hope you will raise these points there.
> Anticipating a favourable action from your side,
> Yours faithfully
> Abhilash
> Copy to : 1,Com.VAN Namboodiri,GS, BSNLEU
> 2,CHQ,SNATTA
> 3,To each &every TTA through our network
>
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4a. Re: Fw: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:21 pm ((PDT))

 
 
Dear Prithpal ,
 
 
                   I know your pain to know about the constitution of our beloved association but dear i think it is very difficult to have a copy of constitution , it is just like a BIG , as our others DEMANDS . 
 
                         I have also talked & demanded  a copy of constitution from our CIRCLE SECRETARY & CENTRAL COORDINATOR but they shown their HELPNESS to give that copy.They assured me that they put my demand to SNATTA-CHQ.
 
                                       i am very much surprised that  WHAT IS PROBLEM OF OUR GS & PRESIDENT OF SNATTA , NOT TO GIVE US COPY OF CONSTITUTION OF SNATTA.
 
WITH REGARDS,
JASVIR JASSAL ,
VICE -PRESIDENT-SNATTA-PB,
09417434555.  

 
 
 
 
 

--- On Thu, 10/6/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL COORDINATERS
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 10 June, 2010, 9:14 AM


 

Reminder-1 plz do needful.Its again my request to CC Punjab plz provide me a copy if u really feel that its a time to Act. thanks


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL COORDINATERS
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 6 June, 2010, 6:54 PM


 


Dear Friends
 
I want to know about the constitution of SNATTA.Every unions and associations' s memebers should know about their association. Its my request to all CC and CHQ members if they have the copy then they must upload either on yahoo group or SNATTA site plz so that we can know where we stand what are our roots. i think for future strategy first everybobdy have to know about the constitution then they can send suggestion according to our constitution. Today i have read app 300 mails because due to busy days what i got nothing after reading mails except criticism, Legpulling etc dont mind but its the fact.Happy to read the letter of SNATTA CHQ to BSNLEU regarding wage injustice to newly recruited our friends.


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 


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5a. Re: 14& 16 JUNE AGITATIONS
Posted by: "Razz Dcool" razzdcool@yahoo.com razzdcool
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:26 pm ((PDT))

Dear frnds,
Very well said by Balwinder "TO KEEP THE UNITY OF SNATTA ATTENTION SHOULD BE PAID" atleast towards our major issues.No TTA
specially of 07 & 08 batch will the part of 14&16 june aggitation & neither in any next aggitation drama call by BSNLEU.


________________________________
From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
To: TTABSNL@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 11:21:26 AM
Subject: [TTABSNL] 14& 16 JUNE AGITATIONS

 
Dear SNATTA CHQ

Why not pay anomally, JTO exam issue in 14&16 june agitations call by JAC.
as pay anomally issue is of both executives & non executives ( JTOs & TTAs )

TO KEEP UNITY OF SNATTA PLEASE PAY ATTENTION

Its not only my voice, its the voice of jalandhar ssa TTAs

Balwinder singh
distt president snatta
jalandhar


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6a. Re: Fw: LAKHS OF LOSS [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "maneesh kp" maneeshkp82@gmail.com maneesh_kp
Date: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:16 pm ((PDT))

On 6/12/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Dear Santhosh,
> These are some mails I sent to EU leaders before the wage revision
> anticipating your present agony. Still do you think that I had the same
> opinion of management and BSNLEU?
>
> Abhilash V
> CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
>
> --- On Sun, 31/1/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: LAKHS OF LOSS
> To: chqbsnleu@sify.com
> Date: Sunday, 31 January, 2010, 4:10 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear comrade,
>            Please find the attachment below. Just see how the BSNL
> management & representative union have rewarded the newly recruited TTAs for
> their sincerity and dedication in work. They suffer the loss of lakhs of
> rupees(around 3 lakhs) upto the next wage revision. So please put forward
> the pay scale merger issue in the next NCM.
> regards
> Abhilash.V
> CC(Kerala),SNATTA
>
>
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7a. Re: OLD HR NO SHOULD NOT BE DETED
Posted by: "MohammedZuber Sheikh" mgs_zuber197@yahoo.co.in mgs_zuber197
Date: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:55 am ((PDT))

if  anyone  have  information  about  website  to  give  information  regarding  your  EPF Balance as on 31/03/2010.

--- On Fri, 11/6/10, gv7629 <gv7629@yahoo.in> wrote:

From: gv7629 <gv7629@yahoo.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] OLD HR NO SHOULD NOT BE DETED
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 11 June, 2010, 9:42 PM


 





IF ANY OF THE FRIENDS POSSES THE COPY THE CIRCULAR OF THE BSNL THAT OLD HR NO SHOULD NOT BE DLETED AND REMAIN CONTINUE IF A TTA SELECTED IN EXTERNAL JTO EXAMINATION?????????

PLZ PROVIDE IT.





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