[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1779[3 Attachments]

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Is there any TTA from Haryana who recruited after 01.01.2007 ?
From: Sanjib

2. (no subject)
From: J-Saravanan

3a. Re: Good News :Chances for EXTRA INCREMENT to all DR TTA. [1 Attachm
From: abhilash v

4a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN W
From: santosh

5. (no subject)
From: Vijay Bohra

6a. Re: STOP TO BLAME.......TIME TO ACT NOW...........HAI DUM TUJHME????
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab

7. be careful while online
From: G S Rajawat

8. Fw: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL COO
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH

9. Re: Digest Number 1778[1 Attachment]
From: Suraj Manchanda

10a. ITR 1 (SARAL II)
From: G S Rajawat
10b. guidelines for rule - 8 transfers..reg.
From: satyanarayana arigela

11a. Re: Fw: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indi
From: Manish Solanki

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1. Is there any TTA from Haryana who recruited after 01.01.2007 ?
Posted by: "Sanjib" sanjib_mnp@rediffmail.com sanjib_r2006
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:02 am ((PDT))

Dear all,
Is there any TTA from Haryana who recruited after 01.01.2007 ?please provide your contact number immediately. its very urgent.

Thanks,
Sanjib Saha
TTA/BNG/Extl
Calcutta Telephone District.
MOB: 09432983394

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Posted by: "J-Saravanan" jayaraman.saravanan@gmail.com jayaraman_saravanan
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:02 am ((PDT))

Well said Abilash, our brother santosh seems to be short sighted..
Hope now he is clear

regards

Er.J.Saravanan
TTA, SULUR ,COIMBATORE.TAMILNADU
09443212708

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3a. Re: Good News :Chances for EXTRA INCREMENT to all DR TTA. [1 Attachm
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:02 am ((PDT))

Dear Manish,
We will not get an extra increment. But our increment date will be advanced to the date of increment of our junior if he starts to get a higher pay than us from his increment date onwards. The post 2007 TTAs will not get this benefit( This is a fact only and I am not speaking against the post 2007 friends)

Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

--- On Thu, 10/6/10, Manish Samadhiya <m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Manish Samadhiya <m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Good News :Chances for EXTRA INCREMENT to all DR TTA. [1 Attachment]
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "manish samadhiya" <m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Thursday, 10 June, 2010, 12:58 PM

 

[Attachment(s) from Manish Samadhiya included below]

Hi friends,
               Most of the senior TTA are receiving less salary as compared to juniors because on revised scales immediate juniors get there next increment before the senior & in this way pay anomaly is generated. In case of Executives BSNL Corporate office issued order( atteched with this mail pls open with PDF)  for one Extra increment (with some condition) to such seniors, in order to remove the anomaly.
But as in case of DR TTA every year recruitment is going on so we may have chance to get more then one increment( Even post 2007 TTA's) . SNATTACHQ is well aware with this situation & hopeful for some extra increments to almost all DR TTA's.
 I request all TTA's to arrange pay slips of such cases, give representation at your unit & circle to get this extra increment.
For post 2007 batch TTA's we are very hopeful that there problem will be solved, as the issue is raised at different level from SNATTACHQ level & individual level also.
 
 from SNATTACHQ side
  Manish Samadhiya
  09425441486

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4a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN W
Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:55 am ((PDT))

thank you sir,
for your kind reply.........

actually i dont want that you should forward may mail to GM's

i have uploaded a filr "GM.RAR" in this group......

tehre you can edit the same.

sir when i submitted the letter to GM/finance.......she asked me same that it is not the issue of a circle.......but whole country.......so, i'll forward your letter to corporate office.....with my remarks.

second point is that the copy of this letter is to be submitted to GS/BSNLEU.........you are hereby humbly requested that pls. submit the copy to CS/BSNLEU...& ask him to forward it to GS/BSNLEU with his remarks...............i have submitted to AGS/BSNLEU......he agreed to forward this letter to GS/BSNLEU......& he also promise to send a xerox copy of remarks, whtever he do on the cover letter......

sir.........i am not here to heart the feelings of anyone.......ALL OF YOU SENIORS ARE VERY RESPECTFUL FOR ME........I /WE WANT A REVOLUTIONARY ACTION FROM YOUR SIDE.............

I HAVE FULL FAITH ON CHQ......AFTERALL........IT IS ONLY SNATTA CHQ.........WHO ALWAYS FIGHT FOR TTA's..............

THNX

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@...> wrote:
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> 1, I referred the executive unions to explain the reality in this issue. It doesn't mean SNATTA should follow BSNLEU blindly. The executive unions especially AIGETOA(they stands only for the new JTO/JAOs) approach this situation in a practical way and they may get a positive result. We(use this word for avoiding confusion only) had faced the same situation when we joined. TTAs had to get the 7800 scale at that time. But unions agreed for the 7100 scale. After then the JTOs who were supposed to get the 8600 scale got the 9850 scale. If we do not move in the right direction then TTAs will stay in the 13600 scale instead of 16400 and JTOs will be placed in the 20600 scale instead of 18850 scale.
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> 2, Even if some PSU provide fitment to the new people then too we can't challenge it legally. Because in the case of non-executives, management can decide the pay as per the scenario in the company. See, MTNL NHPC etc. were giving the 7800 scales to diploma engineers. Why we didn't file a case?. It won't stand legally but the recognised union can ask for it to the management.
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> 3, You have referred it to the Prime Minister. You are very correct in this regard. It was a Govt. decision to grand the 1.91 MF to revise the executive's pay scales in CPSEs. The same was followed in the case of non executives.
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> 4, How can you say that I have the same opinion of management? Don't be blind when you hear something that doesn't please you. Even before the wage revision discussions started I had raised the point of merger of NE-9, NE 10 & NE-11scales and granting the proposed 9200 scale to TTAs. I had talked to Namboodiri and state leaders of BSNLEU several times regarding this matter. But they were of the same opinion of the management that 6TH pay commission or Govt. pay structure are not applicable to BSNL. But for every other cadre's scales, gratuity, 3% annual increment, 6 month maternity leave, 10, 20, 30 %of HRA, 20 year of service for full pension etc. they followed 6TH pay commission/Govt.orders. Ask to Namboodiri or co that how hard and harsh I was for the deserved pay scale. Some of new TTAs were attended  Pathanamthitta SSA conference of BSNLEU. In that meeting the Circle secretary of BSNLEU got the extreme criticism from me that he never got
> personally in his entire union career. But the most of the new TTAs were not ready to do something. Not a single voice raised in most of the SSAs.
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> 5, It is not at all demotivating. It was only an indication from my own experience in conducting some court cases. Many people will be there to motivate the leaders. But when it progresses only some people will be there to face the isolation. In some cases I co ordinated the applicants for their satisfaction even though I found no scope for a hope. I will be ready to do my level best if new TTAs are ready to come forward(not through mails and mere talks).
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> 6, In the revised scale too your contribution towards EPF goes on increasing. The negative figure comes into picture only when compared to the old scale.
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> 7. I feel that the fitment or pay up gradation cannot be settled at GM level. It has to be dealt with higher level. Only the representative union can force the management in this regard( it is the fact- even though it is very hard to digest). We can force the representative union in this matter. Our CHQ is there to do the best and we have to support them at the local level.
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> 8. How I can simply forward your mail to GMs ? Would you forward any mail to GMs that somebody had sent you?
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> 9. We participated in the strike due to the alliance commitments. They never strike for any of our cause.
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> 10. Definitely it is heart breaking for anybody that pay is not increasing after revision. One is watching others getting a better pay. It is a problem and we have to find the solution for this problem. But we should be open minded to the facts. Every ways should be analysed. But you are selecting a way and believes it is the right way that leads to the goal. If somebody says there is some troubles in this way then you stamp him as the enemy instead of checking the way.
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> 11, Your moto should not be "just to stop the loss". It will get only some personal pay. There is all the possibility to get the personal pay if we move to court. But it is not enough at all.
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> 12, You would be happy if I say that fitment should be given to new TTAs. But How can I do that if I believe that it is too difficult?. I will be happy if you get the fitment. But it doesn't mean I should not talk about the difficulties.
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> Best of luck for you and you are never alone. We all are with you.                                         
> Abhilash V>CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
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> --- On Tue, 8/6/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@...> wrote:
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> From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@...>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WELCOME...........
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 8 June, 2010, 5:43 PM
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> hallo abhilash  ji,
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> Go through the main stream executive unions-SNEA, AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA. They all are asking for a revised scale for new JTOs; not for fitment. Why?
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> it means that as SNATTA blindly follow BSNLEU, in the same manner new JTO's should belong to SNEA, AIBSNLEA,AIGETOA. ......they never should knock to other unions/association. ...
> it is not the fact that "WHO HAS DEMANDED???"..but fact is that "WHAT IS DEMANDED???? ?".....
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> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> Legally no Govt. or PSU is liable to give the fitment for post 'revision cut of date' employees. But using its powers Tamilnadu Govt. given it. So we are lucky to have a point in the court. Definitely you can claim it. But that too cannot be guaranteed. Govt. of India didn't give that fitment.
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> it means you'll raise your voice "WHEN ANY PSU WILL PROVIDE FITMENT TO NEW EMPLOYEES... ...../... ....OR MR. MANMOHAN SINGH JI WILL ISSUED AN ORDER REGARDING THIS "
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> BSNLEU had the same opinion of management
> sorry to say but i think sir, you too have the same opinion like management.. .......
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> Even if you win in the CAT then management will appeal to high court. Then another appeal to Supreme court. Make sure that sufficient fund, time and people ready for all of this.
> Personally I don't support the CHQ to take it legally.
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> you don't have to be worry for the new TTA's that how you'll collect fund.......
> pls. don't try to demotivate any person...it doesn't mean that if you don't do anything then all person will watch to you with crossing fingers.
> YOUR MENTALITY IS VERY CLEAR THAT "THIS IS YOUR ISSUE .SO YOU FIGHT"
> bcz.you always use the word "you" not "we".
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> Santhosh is doing a good work. But the EPF point too may not stand legally. Your contribution is not decreasing. As per the DA increases in three months, your contribution increases. Salary too increases. You can't show any reduction in money in your pay slip even thogh you are getting a less salary compared to the old one. Only in April, May & June you are getting the reduced pay(EPF contribution is not decreasing even in these period-you can show negative contribution only when compared to the present structure).
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> i am surprised to see that "how such experienced employee can say that"
> i think you've not properly study the calculations of my first message..
> and it is reduced from OCTOBER 2009.....(NOT TYPING MISTAKE)..you can calculate.
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> You people have a misunderstanding that  our batch got a plenty of hike.
> sir very much thankyou to show us mirror?? 
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> now my question to you (leader like same thought)
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> 1. HAVE YOU SUBMITTED A SINGLE LETTER TO YOUR CGM/GM CONCERNING THE ISSUE???????
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> 2. I HAD MAIL YOU THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY ME TO GM/FINANCE.. ...& REQUESTED TO YOU TO    DO THE SAME.......
>    YOU'VE NO TIME FOR THAT........ BUT A LOT OF TIME TO SCRACTH THE WOUND OF NEW TTA's.
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> 3. A PERSON IS WORKING FOR 18 MONTHS.& SUDDENLY HE LOOKS THAT HIS SALARY IS DECREASING.THEN HE SHOULD CLAPPING TO HIS LEADERS????? ?
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> 4. I MET WITH MR. SAIBAL SENGUPTA AGS/BSNLEU..& DISCUSSED ALL THE POINTS WITH HIM.......HE AGREES TO SEND AREPORT TO BSNLEUCHQ & JOINT FORM REGARDING LOOSE IN SALARY (BCZ ALSO JTO's ARE LOOSER)..... ...WHAT HAVE YOU DONE???????? ??
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> 5. JOINT FORUM CAN CALL 2 DAY STRIKE (INCLUDING SNATTA) FOR INCREASING THE FITMENT FROM 30 %.........BUT NO ONE IN JOINT FORUM CAN CALL STRIKE...... .FOR THE LOSS IN SALARY TO  APPROX 12000 EMPLOYEES (TTA+JTO)... .......
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> hoping best for you!!!!!!!!! !!!!
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5. (no subject)
Posted by: "Vijay Bohra" vijaybohra_1978@yahoo.in vijaybohra_1978
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:00 am ((PDT))

Firstly it is to be checked that rent of modem charged for the 9 month period is justified or not . If it is ok than you cannot get the rebate of rent you have paid .In case you go for purchase of that modem you have to pay 1680-500-451=729 for that modem .

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6a. Re: STOP TO BLAME.......TIME TO ACT NOW...........HAI DUM TUJHME????
Posted by: "Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab" circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:01 am ((PDT))

*Dear Santosh,*
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* After discussing , presenting & suggesting about the
WAGE REVISION LOSS related to batch2007 & 2008 ttas since about last two
months , I think now you come to a REAL POINT i.e*
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*"STOP TO BLAME.......TIME TO ACT NOW...........HAI DUM TUJHME " *

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*Actually the whole thing to achieve
anything AGAINST INJUSTICE CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED THROUGH DUM , and THIS DUM
IS NOT RELATED TO A DUM OF ONLY SINGLE MAN BUT INSTEAD RELATED TO THE
LEADING TEAM & THE SINGLE HEARTED SUPPORT FROM ALL MEMBERS.Moreover the
FUNDA which i have experienced from my last about four years for SNATTA is
that the demands can not be achieved by PRESENTATION BUT INSTEAD ONLY BY
OUR COLLECTIVE INFLUENCES. *
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so if you feel that you can give your 1000%(thausand).then call
me.............otherwise you should just send message on this group & blame
another one...............ok??????
*The above line is very crucial & decide our RESULTS.*
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So again thanks for your CONCLUSION about the whole matter & how we can ?*
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*with regards,*
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*Hakam singh,*
*CS-SNATTA-PB,*
*09417277177. *
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On 6/10/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:
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> *NOW IT'S QUITE ENOUGH.............*
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> *I CAN'T WAIT MORE.............*
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> *ANY TTA, WHO WANT TO HELP ME......CALL ME IMMEDIATELY 94328444555*
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> *IN SNATTA CTD WE HAVE FORMED A COMMITTE TO WORK FOR FITMENT-BENEFIT TO
> ALL TTA's (rectd. before 7/5/2010)...........if you want to be a part then
> call me.........*
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> *there are some strategy of this committee...........*
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> *the common mail id of this committe is "**ctdaicc@rediffmail.com*<ctdaicc@rediffmail.com>
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> *if you have any documents.......then send it to on this mail......
> (pls. don't mail your suggestion here, for any suggestion you can feel free
> to call/sms me....).....*
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> *members of this committe are 100% dedicated.......*
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> me.............otherwise you should just send message on this group & blame
> another one...............ok??????
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> *santosh anand
> CS/SNATTA CTD
> 9432844455*
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> *YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT TO:-----
> MR. KOUSHIK GHOSH
> CC/SNATTACTD
> 9477240256*
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> *MR. PROSUN GHOSH
> PRESIDENT/SNATTACTD
> 9477210784*
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> REMEMBER TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE
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7. be careful while online
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gsrajawat@gmail.com
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:12 am ((PDT))

http://www.bhaskar.com/article/RAJ-UDA-c-17-27774-1046746.html
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
B S N L
9413424883

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8. Fw: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL COO
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:19 am ((PDT))

Reminder-1 plz do needful.Its again my request to CC Punjab plz provide me a copy if u really feel that its a time to Act. thanks

 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] KIND ATTENTION TO ALL CIRCLE SECRETARY AND CENTRAL COORDINATERS
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 6 June, 2010, 6:54 PM

 

Dear Friends
 
I want to know about the constitution of SNATTA.Every unions and associations' s memebers should know about their association. Its my request to all CC and CHQ members if they have the copy then they must upload either on yahoo group or SNATTA site plz so that we can know where we stand what are our roots. i think for future strategy first everybobdy have to know about the constitution then they can send suggestion according to our constitution. Today i have read app 300 mails because due to busy days what i got nothing after reading mails except criticism, Legpulling etc dont mind but its the fact.Happy to read the letter of SNATTA CHQ to BSNLEU regarding wage injustice to newly recruited our friends.

 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

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9. Re: Digest Number 1778[1 Attachment]
Posted by: "Suraj Manchanda" surajmanchanda@gmail.com surajmanchanda_innovative
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:31 pm ((PDT))

wORST PAY REVISION -- HALLA BOL

yaar aise faltu mein bashaan baaji se kuch nahi hoga .........

take some decisions.........

1. quit old union membership from today itself and clear cut told them
u have did nthg for us that is why weare leaving u.....any bsnleu,
nfte, snatta etc...

2. try to form a group in ur SSA city ..........

3. Make contacts with other SSA...

4. Just give letters to all concerned G.M's and Carbon copy to CGM

5. If still they do not listen atleast if we can not afford to go on
strike then go on mass leave for one week then bsnl management is get
to know that in bsnl all new technology is even backend or front end
is managed by new recrited TTA

we are the most talented and the most qualified cadre in Non
executives but still least paid in all non executives......

so only one mission halla bol............

On 6/10/10, TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> There are 14 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1a. Re: post 2007 friends
> From: rajeshsekharc
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> 2a. Re: BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home Unlimited Plans.
> From: avijit biswas
> 2b. Re: BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home Unlimited Plans.
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh
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> 3.
> From: joykakkayam john
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> 4. Congrats to Newly elected Maharashtra SNATTA body.
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh
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> 5a. LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> From: Jasvant Parmar
> 5b. Re: LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> From: abhilash v
> 5c. Re: LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> From: jigar mehta
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> 6. STOP TO BLAME.......TIME TO ACT NOW...........HAI DUM TUJHME???????
> From: santosh
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> 7. SERVICE MOBILE CONNECTION TO NON-EXECUTIVES
> From: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj
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> 8a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN W
> From: abhilash v
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> 9. Good News :Chances for EXTRA INCREMENT to all DR TTA.
> From: Manish Samadhiya
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> 10. Fw: regarding tcil african pam project
> From: ravinder yadav
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> 11. Fw: [TTABSNL] LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> From: Balvinder singh
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> Messages
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> 1a. Re: post 2007 friends
> Posted by: "rajeshsekharc" rajeshsekharc@yahoo.co.in rajeshsekharc
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 8:51 am ((PDT))
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> Hello
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> I personally feel that the demands of post 2007 TTas are
> fair .They are seperated from us due to this fitment formula . I think
> CHQ should back their efforts .
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> In kerala post 2007 TTAs are planning to file a court case for 30%
> fitment . They talked with competent lawyers, and they are optimistic .
> Those who are interested in it can conact with them and share ur
> valuable sugetions and contributions.
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> At the same time CHQ should try for scale upgradation of TTA cadre to
> 16400/-(NE11/E1)which is another option that is still open to us. Post
> 2007 TTAs will get the same benefit as 30% fitment . Even 2002 TTA will
> get small benefit from it when time bound promotion come into effect.
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> I appreciate all efforts taken by SNATTA to raise this issue before
> management. Eventhough they agreed to consider the scale upgradation of
> TTa cadre , I dont think they will do that. We will not get support from
> any of the union either , whether it is BSNLEU or NFTE.
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> In kerala we are planning to file a court case for scale upgradation and
> against desparity met by BSNL TTAs in timebound promotion. Now we have
> only one point to argue for scale upgradation , that is VI th pay
> commission recommendations. We will finalise it after consulting with
> CHQ.
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> My humble request to all TTA ( including post 2007 ) is that please dont
> weaken the unity of TTA group by fighting against each other for group
> interests.
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> One more thing. I personally feel that the reactions of post 2007 TTA
> batch is quite natural .They were with us (at least morally). All of a
> sudden they feel inferior to us due to this fitment formula. Remember
> SNATTA was formed when we experienced similar kind of treatement from
> unions like BSNLEU and NFTE. We should forget the scale anomaly we faced
> when we joined BSNL( ie 7100/- instead of 7800/-)and try for new scale
> upgradation .It is the right time.
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> We should not treat our juniors in the same way we were treated by our
> seniors .
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> If CHQ feels 30% fitment is not practical then group should try for
> scale upgradation.
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> all the best,
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> Rajesh Sekhar.C
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> --- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, sanu bangar <sanjayverma88@...> wrote:
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>> hello grp leader my aim is not to� leg pulling� of our leaders
> if we appreciate the effort of our leaders then we have also the right
> to realise u the actual things. because of one sayee that "jake per phte
> na biwai so kya jane peer prayi"means jis per bitti h wo hi janta
> hai.we� have� say to mr hakam ji to� not� sign the aggrement
> but they sign if he says that one sign does'nt matter for wage revision
> to occur but it matters for us that he is with him but unfortunately he
> signs.now snatta has to take some solid action (like withdrawl of
> membership or support to bsnleu or some court case etc) sop that ur
> younger brother tta makes believe in you.secondly the aim of nambodri is
> to take this issue pending till the election so that they try to keep
> their voting by false promises. so say nambordri in harsh word today not
> tommorow. �
>> --- On Fri, 4/6/10, abhilash v abhilash_ok@... wrote:
>>
>> From: abhilash v abhilash_ok@...
>> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, 4 June, 2010, 3:06 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> �
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Sanu,
>> Your frustration and pain generates such wordings. You may go to the
> extreme harsh. But still you are our younger brother. So nobody will
> reply in the same language to you.
>> If you were watching the TTA cadre before getting the new salary then
> you could not have said this. During the wage revision's discussion time
> Namboodiri was� continuiosy getting the calls and mails from our
> leaders. It was a routine for Manish to make at least one call in every
> two days. Our GS had written letter to CMD. If they had suceeded then
> you people would have been getting higher pay. But you might never know
> who tried for it because you are not interested in such things.
>> We failed to get a good pay to new ones. It is not because of the
> negligence of leaders.� They didn't get the sufficient support from
> the TTAs. When we joined in BSNL,� we failed to get the deserved 7800
> scale to TTAs. We failed in getting 5 year condition, JTO exam, JE
> designation etc. One can easily blame it on leaders. But even Mahatma
> Gandhi can't achieve something� for TTAs. That is the situation in
> BSNL. You must know it.
>> �
>> You can easily ask to resign. Because you don't know how they become
> leaders. They were not simply appointed by CMD. They did a lot of things
> to SNATTA. No use of explaining it now. If they resign then are you able
> to lead us?
>>
>>
>> Abhilash V
>> CC,Kerala.
>> 09447700766
>>
>> --- On Thu, 3/6/10, sanu bangar <sanjayverma88@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sanu bangar <sanjayverma88@ yahoo.co. in>
>> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>> Date: Thursday, 3 June, 2010, 2:58 PM
>>
>>
>> �
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> hello our group leaders. what r u doing for the salary of post2007
> batch. its ur moral responsibilty to take the issu urgently and discuss
> with namboodri and management to sort out this as soon as possible
> othrwise u have to resigns from the leaderships and supporting bsnleu.
>>
>> --- On Mon, 31/5/10, Sandip Solanki sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Sandip Solanki sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>> Date: Monday, 31 May, 2010, 4:22 PM
>>
>>
>> �
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear B.P. you are right. I think that there is no use of posting a
> sincere mail in group by CHQ.
>> Because there is no patience and faith in CHQ now. All are acusing CHQ
> for not doing anything for TTAs. What is the meaning of Fitment is still
> not understood.
>> What all are talking about is To get Higher Salary and the LOGICs
> behind that are right obviously but to implement that WE SHOULD GET HELP
> OF LAW.
>> As it is the issue of 12000 people out of 2.5 lacs, no one is expected
> for help.
>> We should approach� LAWYER for the matter i think.
>> Why someone is not trying to approach a LAWYER. Here the help of court
> gives� result for all. When there is no meaning of filing Case, there
> we have filed a CASE.
>> Try to approach a Lawyer for the matter....
>> �
>> Er. Sandip Solanki
>> C.C., SNATTA,
>> Rajkot - GUJARAT
>> 09429244440
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bandhan.P.Singh email13@gmail. com>
>> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>> Sent: Mon, 31 May, 2010 11:02:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends
>>
>> �
>>
>> very nice post Amit...
>>
>> atleast CHQ should post some sincere msg to the group so that the
> unrest prevailing among all new TTAs get cools down a bit. CHQ should
> act like big brother and listen patiently to all.
>>
>> we all knew that CHQ tried to get good pay scale for all but could not
> reach upto the expectation of all. No worries.... we all are with CHQ if
> they initiate any further action for the betterment of all.
>> CHQ alone could not do anything until and unless all quarters of
> SNATTA echo the same voice.
>>
>> i remember CHQ gave call for meeting in Delhi on feb 7, 2010. but only
> 25% reached there. Now tell me what a GS or President can do when
> official members could not act accordingly and responsibly.
>>
>>
>> bandhan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Amit amit.kr_co@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> �
>>
>>
>>
>> everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is
> advising leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or
> rather they are worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they
> are not letting us known .
>>
>> as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I
> request our top leaders to address this issue .
>>
>> following is a letter I got from one of our members
>>
>> hi
>> there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007
> TTAs due
>> to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this
> vital issue
>> which fuels this anger.
>>
>> actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak
> ki
>> drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare
> me maze le
>> rahe hain.
>>
>> is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to
> kahne hi
>> chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
>>
>> circle secy,
>> circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq tak
>> pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
>>
>> AMIT KUMAR
>> DIST SECY PATNA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bandhan Preet Singh,
>> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>> Think Different... Think Good..!! �
>> � �
>> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, � DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (9)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2a. Re: BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home Unlimited Plans.
> Posted by: "avijit biswas" avijit_rio@yahoo.co.in avijit_rio
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 8:53 am ((PDT))
>
> �� Hi Bandhan,
> ������������� Thanks for your mail, Is any new unlimited plan for bussiness
> pourpose where we can get
> high speed ?
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Avijit Biswas
> TTA/BB/Kalyani,
> CTD
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> To: bandhan-preet-singh <Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 12:02:47 PM
> Subject: [TTABSNL] BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home Unlimited
> Plans.
>
>
> hi...
> Due to the mounting pressure from the rival Broadband companies, BSNL has
> also increased the Broadband speed of its Home Unlimited Plans. But BSNL
> plans are less costly than the rivals in comppparison. Now home users can
> enjoy High Speed at no extra cost.
>
> BSNL has doubled the speed of 750 Home unlimited plan from 256 kbps to 756
> Kbps and the speed of 1350 plan is increased 4 Times from 512 Kbps to 2Mbps.
>
> The more details are below:-
>
>
>
> Existing Name & Bandwidth Revised Name & Bandwidth
> Plan Name Bandwidth Speed Plan Name Bandwidth Speed
> BB Home UL 750 256 Kbps BB Home UL 750 (no change) 512 Kbps
> BB Home Combo UL 750 256 Kbps BB Home Combo UL 750(no change) 512 Kbps
> BB Home Combo UL 1350 512 Kbps BB Home Combo ULF 1350 2 Mbps upto 15 GB,
> 512 Kbps beyond 15 GB
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different... Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, � DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2b. Re: BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home Unlimited Plans.
> Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 11:48 am ((PDT))
>
> yes my dear...
> bsnl launched 256 kbps unlimited plan for business including phone rent at
> rs.2150. with additional 250 all india free calls per month.
> more details here below
> http://bsnl.in/service/new_BB/BB_COMBO_Unlim.htm
>
> bandhan
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:12 PM, avijit biswas <avijit_rio@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bandhan,
>> Thanks for your mail, Is any new unlimited plan for
>> bussiness
>> pourpose where we can get
>> high speed ?
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Avijit Biswas
>> TTA/BB/Kalyani,
>> CTD
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>> *To:* bandhan-preet-singh <Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tue, 8 June, 2010 12:02:47 PM
>> *Subject:* [TTABSNL] BSNL increases the Broadband Speed of its Home
>> Unlimited Plans.
>>
>>
>>
>> hi...
>> Due to the mounting pressure from the rival Broadband companies, BSNL has
>> also increased the Broadband speed of its Home Unlimited Plans. But BSNL
>> plans are less costly than the rivals in comppparison. *Now home users can
>> enjoy High Speed at no extra cost.*
>>
>> BSNL has *doubled *the speed of *750 Home unlimited plan from 256 kbps to
>> 756 Kbps *and the *speed of 1350 plan is increased 4 Times from 512 Kbps
>> to 2Mbps.
>>
>> **The more details are below:-**
>> *
>>
>> *Existing Name & Bandwidth *
>>
>> *Revised Name & Bandwidth *
>>
>> *Plan Name *
>>
>> *Bandwidth Speed*
>>
>> *Plan Name *
>>
>> *Bandwidth Speed *
>>
>> BB Home UL 750
>>
>> 256 Kbps
>>
>> *BB Home UL 750 (no change) *
>>
>> *512 Kbps *
>>
>> BB Home Combo UL 750
>>
>> 256 Kbps
>>
>> *BB Home Combo UL 750(no change) *
>>
>> *512 Kbps *
>>
>> BB Home Combo UL 1350
>>
>> 512 Kbps
>>
>> *BB Home Combo ULF 1350 *
>>
>> *2 Mbps upto 15 GB, 512 Kbps beyond 15 GB*
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bandhan Preet Singh,
>> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>> Think Different... Think Good..!!
>>
>> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 3.
> Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 10:39 am ((PDT))
>
> Hi........santhosh, Hats off to u...It is high time we do something.Please
> contact me on 9447869310 and visit dataoneinfo.co.cc ,also provide your
> phone no.......:TTA Joy John� Tele Exch Panamaram,wayanad,kerala.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 4. Congrats to Newly elected Maharashtra SNATTA body.
> Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 11:44 am ((PDT))
>
> * Congrats to Newly elected Maharashtra SNATTA body.
> *
>
> *
> *
>
> * Dt 06.06.2010.*The Maharashtra Circle Conference was conducted on 30th May
> 2010. The newly elected CEC for Maharashtra Circle SNATTA is as below. For
> detailed minutes of conference *pl click
> here<http://snatta.org/news/minutes_pune_conf_30052010.pdf>
> .*
>
> * Central Coordinator - Mr Nitin Pohare (Nashik)*
>
> * Circle President - Mr Shailesh Dhande (Nashik)*
>
> * Vice President - Sudhir Wadmare (Beed), Deepak Mahajan
> (Raigad), Somanth Suryawanshi (Pune), Prakash Korate (Kolhapur)*
>
> * Circle Secretary - Mr Amit Kulkarni (Jalgaon)*
>
> * Asst. Circle Secretary- Mr Prasad Despande (Aurangabad), Mr Abasaheb
> Kadam (Ahmednagar), Mr Vinay Gadshi (Ratnagiri), Mr Santosh Kumar (Goa)*
>
> * Circle Treasurer - Mr Tejas Tadsare (Satara)*
>
> *Executive members - ** Jyoti Jha (Pune),* * Sujata Narkhede
> (Kalyan),* *Siddhesh Gauns (Goa),* *Harsh Sharma (Pune),* * Rupesh
> Waghale(Wardha)*
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 5a. LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com
> jasvantparmar@ymail.com
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 11:47 am ((PDT))
>
> Friends,
> ���������� I m 2002 batch TTA...I m getting less pay then my junior who were
> posted after 6-10 month of my posting..I have increment in the month of
> November...what is the solution?
> please post your suggetion.
>
>
> FROM:-
> J B PARMAR
> TTA (B/B)
> GUJARAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 5b. Re: LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 11:15 pm ((PDT))
>
> Dear Jaswant,
> Don't worry.�Take this matter to the anomally committee. You will get your
> increment from the date� of increment of your junior. i.e. now onwards your
> increment date will be advanced from November to the juniors increment date.
>
> Abhilash V
> CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
>
> --- On Wed, 9/6/10, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> To: "tta bsnl" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 9 June, 2010, 11:20 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Friends,
> ���������� I m 2002 batch TTA...I m getting less pay then my junior who were
> posted after 6-10 month of my posting..I have increment in the month of
> November...what is the solution?
> please post your suggetion.
>
>
> FROM:-
> J B PARMAR
> TTA (B/B)
> GUJARAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 5c. Re: LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> Posted by: "jigar mehta" jigar_r_mehta@yahoo.co.in jigar_r_mehta
> Date: Wed Jun 9, 2010 11:16 pm ((PDT))
>
> hello jasvant give me your mobile no
>
> TTA BB
> MODASA
> GUJARAT
>
>
> �JIGAR
>
> --- On Wed, 9/6/10, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> To: "tta bsnl" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 9 June, 2010, 11:20 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Friends,
> ���������� I m 2002 batch TTA...I m getting less pay then my junior who were
> posted after 6-10 month of my posting..I have increment in the month of
> November...what is the solution?
> please post your suggetion.
>
>
> FROM:-
> J B PARMAR
> TTA (B/B)
> GUJARAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 6. STOP TO BLAME.......TIME TO ACT NOW...........HAI DUM TUJHME???????
> Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:37 am ((PDT))
>
>
> HALLO FRNDZ........
>
> NOW IT'S QUITE ENOUGH.............
>
> I CAN'T WAIT MORE.............
>
> ANY TTA, WHO WANT TO HELP ME......CALL ME IMMEDIATELY 94328444555
>
> IN SNATTA CTD WE HAVE FORMED A COMMITTE TO WORK FOR FITMENT-BENEFIT TO
> ALL TTA's (rectd. before 7/5/2010)...........if you want to be a part
> then call me.........
>
> there are some strategy of this committee...........
>
> the common mail id of this committe is "ctdaicc@rediffmail.com
> <mailto:ctdaicc@rediffmail.com> "..............
>
> if you have any documents.......then send it to on this mail......
> (pls. don't mail your suggestion here, for any suggestion you can feel
> free to call/sms me....).....
>
>
> members of this committe are 100% dedicated.......
>
> so if you feel that you can give your 1000%(thausand).then call
> me.............otherwise you should just send message on this group &
> blame another one...............ok??????
>
>
> thnx...
>
>
> santosh anand
> CS/SNATTA CTD
> 9432844455
>
> YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT TO:-----
> MR. KOUSHIK GHOSH
> CC/SNATTACTD
> 9477240256
>
> MR. PROSUN GHOSH
> PRESIDENT/SNATTACTD
> 9477210784
>
>
>
>
>
> REMEMBER TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 7. SERVICE MOBILE CONNECTION TO NON-EXECUTIVES
> Posted by: "Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:37 am ((PDT))
>
> Please upload, if anybody having order from Corporate office regarding the
> provision of Service GSM connection to non-executive in the interest of
> service.
> : Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
> TTA (Mktg) Amritsar
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 8a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN W
> Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:37 am ((PDT))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Santhosh,
> 1, I referred the executive unions to explain the reality in this issue.�It
> doesn't mean SNATTA should follow BSNLEU blindly. The executive unions
> especially AIGETOA(they stands only for the new JTO/JAOs) approach this
> situation in a practical way and they may get a positive result. We(use this
> word for avoiding confusion only) had faced the same situation when we
> joined. TTAs had to get the 7800 scale at that time. But unions agreed for
> the 7100 scale. After then the JTOs who were supposed to get the 8600 scale
> got the 9850 scale. If we do not move in the right direction then TTAs will
> stay in the 13600 scale instead of 16400 and JTOs will be placed in the
> 20600 scale instead of 18850 scale.
>
> 2, Even if some PSU provide fitment to the new people then too we can't
> challenge it legally. Because in the case of non-executives, management can
> decide the pay as per the scenario in the company. See, MTNL NHPC etc. were
> giving the 7800 scales to diploma engineers. Why we didn't file a case?. It
> won't stand legally but the recognised union can ask for it to the
> management.
>
> 3, You have referred it to the Prime Minister. You are very correct in this
> regard. It was a Govt. decision to grand the 1.91 MF to revise the
> executive's pay scales in CPSEs. The same was followed in the case of non
> executives.
>
> 4, How can you say that I have the same opinion of management? Don't be
> blind when you hear something that doesn't please you. Even before the wage
> revision discussions started I had raised the point of merger of NE-9, NE 10
> & NE-11scales and granting the proposed 9200 scale to TTAs. I had talked to
> Namboodiri and state leaders of BSNLEU several times regarding this matter.
> But they were of the same opinion of the management that�6TH pay commission
> or Govt. pay structure are not applicable to BSNL. But for every other
> cadre's scales, gratuity, 3% annual increment, 6 month maternity leave, 10,
> 20, 30 %of HRA, 20 year of service for full pension etc. they followed 6TH
> pay commission/Govt.orders. Ask to Namboodiri or co that how hard and harsh
> I was for the deserved pay scale. Some of new TTAs were attended
> Pathanamthitta SSA conference of BSNLEU. In that meeting the Circle
> secretary of BSNLEU got the extreme criticism from me that he never got
> personally in his entire union career. But the most of the new TTAs were
> not ready to do something. Not a single�voice raised in most of the SSAs.
>
> 5, It is not at all demotivating. It was only an indication from my own
> experience in conducting some court cases. Many people will be there to
> motivate the leaders. But when it progresses only some people will be there
> to face the isolation.�In some cases I co ordinated the applicants for their
> satisfaction even though I found no scope for a hope. I will be ready�to�do
> my level best�if�new TTAs are ready to come forward(not�through mails and
> mere talks).
>
> 6, In the revised scale too your contribution towards EPF goes on
> increasing. The negative figure comes into picture only when compared to the
> old scale.
>
> 7. I feel that the fitment or pay up gradation cannot be settled at GM
> level. It has to be dealt with higher level. Only the representative union
> can force the management in this regard( it is the fact- even though it is
> very hard to digest). We can force the representative union in this matter.
> Our CHQ is there�to do the best and we have to support them at the local
> level.
>
> 8. How I can simply forward your mail to GMs�? Would you forward any mail to
> GMs that somebody had sent you?
>
> 9. We participated in the strike due to the alliance commitments. They�never
> strike for any of our cause.
>
> 10. Definitely it is heart breaking for anybody that pay is not increasing
> after revision. One is watching others getting a better pay. It is a problem
> and we have to find the solution for this problem. But we should be open
> minded to the facts. Every ways should be analysed. But you are selecting a
> way and believes it is the right way that leads to the goal. If somebody
> says�there is some troubles in this way�then you stamp him as the enemy
> instead of checking the way.
>
> 11, Your moto should not be "just to stop the loss". It will�get only some
> personal pay. There is all the possibility to get the personal pay if we
> move to court. But it is not enough at all.
>
> 12, You would be happy if I�say that fitment should be given to new TTAs.
> But How can I do that if I believe that it is too difficult?. I will be
> happy if you get the fitment. But it doesn't mean I should not talk about
> the difficulties.
>
> Best of luck for you and you are never�alone. We all are with
> you.
> Abhilash V>CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
>
> --- On Tue, 8/6/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U
> ANSWER????????? THEN WELCOME...........
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 8 June, 2010, 5:43 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hallo abhilash� ji,
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> Go through the main stream executive unions-SNEA, AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA. They
> all are asking for a revised scale for new JTOs; not for fitment. Why?
>
> it means that as SNATTA blindly follow BSNLEU, in the same manner new JTO's
> should belong to SNEA, AIBSNLEA,AIGETOA. ......they never should knock to
> other unions/association. ...
> it is not the fact that "WHO HAS DEMANDED???"..but fact is that "WHAT IS
> DEMANDED???? ?".....
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> Legally no Govt. or PSU is liable to give the fitment for post 'revision cut
> of date' employees. But using its powers Tamilnadu Govt. given it. So we are
> lucky to have a point in the court. Definitely you can claim it. But that
> too cannot be guaranteed. Govt. of India didn't give that fitment.
>
> it means you'll raise your voice "WHEN ANY PSU WILL PROVIDE FITMENT TO NEW
> EMPLOYEES... ...../... ....OR MR. MANMOHAN SINGH JI WILL ISSUED AN ORDER
> REGARDING THIS "
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> BSNLEU had the same opinion of management
> sorry to say but i think sir, you too have the same opinion like
> management.. .......
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> Even if you win in the CAT then management will appeal to high court. Then
> another appeal to Supreme court. Make sure that sufficient fund, time and
> people ready for all of this.
> Personally I don't support the CHQ to take it legally.
>
> you don't have to be worry for the new TTA's that how you'll collect
> fund.......
> pls. don't try to demotivate any person...it doesn't mean that if you don't
> do anything then all person will watch to you with crossing fingers.
> YOUR MENTALITY IS VERY CLEAR THAT "THIS IS YOUR ISSUE .SO YOU FIGHT"
> bcz.you always use the word "you" not "we".
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> Santhosh is doing a good work. But the EPF point too may not stand legally.
> Your contribution is not decreasing. As per the DA increases in three
> months, your contribution increases. Salary too increases. You can't show
> any reduction in money in your pay slip even thogh you are getting a less
> salary compared to the old one. Only in April, May & June you are getting
> the reduced pay(EPF contribution is not decreasing even in these period-you
> can show negative contribution only when compared to the present structure).
>
> i am surprised to see that "how such experienced employee can say that"
> i think you've not properly study the calculations of my first message..
> and it is reduced from OCTOBER 2009.....(NOT TYPING MISTAKE)..you can
> calculate.
>
> ACCORDING TO YOU:-------- -
> You people have a misunderstanding that� our batch got a plenty of hike.
> sir very much thankyou to show us mirror??
>
>
> now my question to you (leader like same thought)
>
> 1. HAVE YOU SUBMITTED A SINGLE LETTER TO YOUR CGM/GM CONCERNING THE
> ISSUE???????
>
> 2. I HAD MAIL YOU THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY ME TO GM/FINANCE.. ...& REQUESTED
> TO YOU TO��� DO THE SAME.......
> �� YOU'VE NO TIME FOR THAT........ BUT A LOT OF TIME TO SCRACTH THE WOUND OF
> NEW TTA's.
>
> 3. A PERSON IS WORKING FOR 18 MONTHS.& SUDDENLY HE LOOKS THAT HIS SALARY IS
> DECREASING.THEN HE SHOULD CLAPPING TO HIS LEADERS????? ?
>
> 4. I MET WITH MR. SAIBAL SENGUPTA AGS/BSNLEU..& DISCUSSED ALL THE POINTS
> WITH HIM.......HE AGREES TO SEND AREPORT TO BSNLEUCHQ & JOINT FORM REGARDING
> LOOSE IN SALARY (BCZ ALSO JTO's ARE LOOSER)..... ...WHAT HAVE YOU
> DONE???????? ??
>
> 5. JOINT FORUM CAN CALL 2 DAY STRIKE (INCLUDING SNATTA) FOR INCREASING THE
> FITMENT FROM 30 %.........BUT NO ONE IN JOINT FORUM CAN CALL STRIKE......
> .FOR THE LOSS IN SALARY TO� APPROX 12000 EMPLOYEES (TTA+JTO)... .......
>
> 6. I/WE NEVER SAY THAT WE ARE JUST WANTING FITMENT....OUR MOTTO IS TO STOP
> THE LOSS.......EITHER THROUGH 5 INCREMENT... .THROUGH MERGING OF NE 9, NE
> 10, NE 11 SCALE.....OR FITMENT..... ...
>
> �� BUT ALL NEW TTA'S ARE MORE HOPEFULL TO FITMENT-STRATEGY. ...BECAUSE IT IS
> CONDUCTED IN GOVT. OF TAMILNADU... ...
>
>
> hoping best for you!!!!!!!!! !!!!
> (bcz you are looser...... )
>
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> 9. Good News :Chances for EXTRA INCREMENT to all DR TTA.
> Posted by: "Manish Samadhiya" m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in m_samadhiya
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:40 am ((PDT))
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> Hi friends,
> �������������� Most of the senior TTA are receiving less salary as compared
> to juniors because on revised scales immediate juniors get there next
> increment before the senior & in this way pay anomaly is generated.�In case
> of Executives BSNL Corporate office issued�order( atteched with this mail
> pls open with�PDF) �for�one Extra�increment (with some condition)�to such
> seniors, in order to remove the anomaly.
> But as in case of DR TTA every year recruitment is going on so we may have
> chance to get more then one increment( Even post 2007 TTA's) . SNATTACHQ is
> well aware with this situation & hopeful for some extra increments to almost
> all DR TTA's.
> �I request all TTA's to arrange pay slips of such cases, give
> representation at your unit & circle to get this extra increment.
> For post 2007 batch TTA's we are very hopeful that there problem will be
> solved, as the issue is raised at different level from SNATTACHQ level &
> individual level also.
>
> �from SNATTACHQ side
> � Manish Samadhiya
> � 09425441486
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> 1 of 1 File(s)
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> 10. Fw: regarding tcil african pam project
> Posted by: "ravinder yadav" ryadav_456@yahoo.co.in ryadav_456
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:48 am ((PDT))
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/6/10, ravinder yadav <ryadav_456@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: ravinder yadav <ryadav_456@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: regarding tcil african pam project
> To: dtssai@gmail.com
> Date: Thursday, 10 June, 2010, 2:10 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> sir
> i�hv some quries regarding tcil,plz help me in this matter.My quries are
> :-
> 1) as per ur knowledge how many tta are working in this project frm india.I
> f u hv someone email idf & contacts plz mentioned
> 2)wat v hv to show in our profile 2 attaract the interviewer or short liste
> r ,plz tell me.
> 3)wats is the avervage temperature in working envirment.
> 4)wat is the per day expenditure,which v hv 2 pay frm our pocket.
> 5)in how much time compy send us back 2 indiia on his own expenditure(compa
> ny expenditure) .
> 6)wen v cn visit 2 our home country & wats the to & fro air fair frm india
> 2 africa
> 7)wat is the nature of job,wats are benifit company will provide 2 us during
> working.
> 8) wat is the facility in ecomodation they provide like cooling system i
> n summer season.
> 9)how much time u hv spend in africa & how much in bsnl.
>
> plz reply point wise so that v can understand easily,& plan to visit.
> thanks
> Regards
> Ravinder Yadav
> 9810169368
> tta caf rewari
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> 11. Fw: [TTABSNL] LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
> Posted by: "Balvinder singh" channni03@yahoo.co.in channni03
> Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:52 am ((PDT))
>
> Hello Dear friends
> ��� When ever any body writes any mail please mention your mobile so that
> any body have any doubt can contact
> Balvinder
> TTA
> Kalka Haryana
> 9416460600
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
> To: tta bsnl <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 9 June, 2010 11:20:04 PM
> Subject: [TTABSNL] LESS PAY THEN JUNIOR-REG
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> Friends,
> ���������� I m 2002 batch TTA...I m getting less pay then my junior who were
> posted after 6-10 month of my posting..I have increment in the month of
> November...what is the solution?
> please post your suggetion.
>
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> FROM:-
> J B PARMAR
> TTA (B/B)
> GUJARAT
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10a. ITR 1 (SARAL II)
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gsrajawat@gmail.com
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:53 pm ((PDT))

Dear Group
here is the ITR 1 form excel utility with pdf form and instructions.
I hope you people find it useful while filling you returns.

Regards:-

G S Rajawat

B S N L

9413424883

3 of 3 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/350902801/item/list

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10b. guidelines for rule - 8 transfers..reg.
Posted by: "satyanarayana arigela" satyaarigela@yahoo.co.in satyaarigela
Date: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:39 am ((PDT))

hi friends...
cany anybody tell me, what is the procedure to be followed by the ssa heads while forwarding the rule -8 transfer.
whether they consider senior (length of service) first
or
Date of registration of rule -8 application form
kindly reply...

satyanarayana
tta
Adilabad
call me @9441473123

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11a. Re: Fw: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indi
Posted by: "Manish Solanki" manishsolanki3@yahoo.com manishsolanki3
Date: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:36 am ((PDT))

dear
after reading of ratan tata story real life...help ..
this is just "BHARAT RATNA"
real RATAN OF INDIA
by...
manish

--- On Sat, 6/5/10, sandip relekar <sandip_relekar@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: sandip relekar <sandip_relekar@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Fw: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indian should know [1 Attachment]
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 9:14 AM

 

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Subject: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indian should know

 

Hi Friends,
Again Tatas have to be real BHARAT RATNA - Ratan Tata.
Ashok

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Dear All,
It is some thing remarkable, which is not known to many
The Parsi-Community is the smallest community in India;
but has done so much for so many and that too in so
short time.
Forward this info. to as many  as you know.
In the poor land like India people are dazzled by the
wealth collected by Ambanis and Laxmi Mittal and
others, we know how these wealthy families go about
with their opulence. We still admire them!
Tatas
do not need any such admiration; but the following
is worth taking a notice of and worth words of appreciation
and thanks.
Kiran Shah
  
 
 

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Ratan Tata is the chairman of Indian Hotels who own the Taj Mahal Hotel Mumbai, which was the target of the terrorists last year. Hotel President a 5 star property also belongs to Indian Hotels.
The following is really touching.

What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... Don't miss!!!!!!

SALUTE TO
SHRI RATAN TATA

A. The Tata Gesture

1. All category of employees including those who had completed even 1 day as casuals were treated on duty during the time the hotel was closed.
2. Relief and assistance to all those who were injured and killed
3. The relief and assistance was extended to all those who died at the railway station, surroundings including the "Pav- Bha ji" vendor and the pan shop owners.
4. During the time the hotel was closed, the salaries were sent by money order.
5. A psychiatric cell was established in collaboration with Tata Institute of Social Sciences to counsel those who needed such help.
6. The thoughts and anxieties going on people's mind was constantly tracked and where needed psychological help provided.
7. Employee outreach centers were opened where all help, food, water, sanitation, first aid and counseling was provided. 1600 employees were covered by this facility.
8. Every employee was assigned to one mentor and it was that person's responsibility to act as a "single window" clearance for any help that the person required.
9. Ratan Tata personally visited the families of all the
80 employees who in some manner – either through injury or getting killed – were affected.
10. The dependents of the employees were flown from outside Mumbai to Mumbai and taken care off in terms of ensuring mental assurance and peace. They were all accommodated in Hotel President for 3 weeks.
11. Ratan Tata himself asked the families and dependents – as to what they wanted him to do.
12. In a record time of 20 days, a new trust was created by the Tatas for the purpose of relief of employees.
13. Whatg is unique is that even the other people, the railway employees, the police staff, the pedestrians who had nothing to do with Tatas were covered by compensation. Each one of them was provided subsistence allowance of Rs. 10K per month for all these people for 6 months.
14. A 4 year old granddaughter of a vendor got 4 bullets in her and only one was removed in the
Government hospital. She was taken to Bombay hospital and several lacs were spent by the Tatas on her to fully recover her.
15. New hand carts were provided to several vendors who lost their carts.
16. Tata will take responsibility of life education of 46 children of the victims of the terror.
17. This was the most trying period in the life of the
organisation. Senior managers including Ratan Tata were visiting funeral to funeral over the 3 days that were most horrible.
18. The settlement for every deceased member ranged from Rs. 36 to 85 lacs [One lakh rupees tranlates to approx 2200 US $ ] in addition to the following benefits:
a. Full last salary for life for the family and dependents;
b. Complete responsibility of education of children and dependents – anywhere in the world.
 
c. Full Medical facility for the whole family and dependents for rest of their life.
d. All loans and advances were waived off – irrespective of the amount.
e. Counselor for life for each person

B. Epilogue
1. How was such passion created among the employees? How and why did they behave the way they did?
2. The organisation is clear that it is not something that someone can take credit for. It is not some training and development that created such behaviour. If someone suggests that – everyone laughs
3. It has to do with the DNA of the organisation, with the way Tata culture exists and above all with the situation that
prevailed that time. The organization has always been telling that customers and guests are #1 priority
4. The hotel business was started by Jamshedji Tata when he was insulted in one of the British hotels and not allowed to stay there.
5. He created several institutions which later became icons of progress, culture and modernity. IISc is one such institute. He was told by the rulers that time that he can acquire land for IISc to the extent he could fence the same. He could afford fencing only 400 acres.
6. When the HR function hesitatingly made a very rich proposal to Ratan – he said – do you think we are doing enough?
7. The whole approach was that the organisation would spend several hundred crore in re-building the property – why not spend equally on the employees who gave their life?
This is NOT COVERED BY Any NEWS CHANNELS

Like JOKERS RUNNING AAJTAK, ZEE NEWS , IBN These People Busy SHOWING DOGS CATS and ,, and covers
all BULLSHIT .

Forward to all people who you know to show what Ratan Tata DID for his Employees !
  

 

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