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From: sandip relekar
2a. Re: NO WORDS NECESSARY...
From: prashant baviskar
3a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WE
From: abhilash v
3b. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WE
From: Priyesh Varghese
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1. Fw: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indian s
Posted by: "sandip relekar" sandip_relekar@yahoo.com sandip_relekar
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 5:42 am ((PDT))
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Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 12:48:13 PM
Subject: What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... a every Indian should know
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>Hi Friends,
>Again Tatas have to be real BHARAT RATNA - Ratan Tata.
>Ashok
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>Dear All,
>>It is some thing remarkable, which is not known to many
>>The Parsi-Community is the smallest community in India;
>>but has done so much for so many and that too in so
>>short time.
>>Forward this info. to as many as you know.
>>In the poor land like India people are dazzled by the
>>wealth collected by Ambanis and Laxmi Mittal and
>>others, we know how these wealthy families go about
>>with their opulence. We still admire them!
>>Tatas do not need any such admiration; but the following
>>is worth taking a notice of and worth words of appreciation
>>and thanks.
>>Kiran Shah
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>>Ratan Tata is the chairman of Indian Hotels who own the Taj Mahal Hotel Mumbai, which was the target of the terrorists last year.Hotel President a 5 star property also belongs to Indian Hotels.
>>The following is really touching.
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>>What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... Don't miss!!!!!!
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>>SALUTE TO
>>SHRI RATAN TATA
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>>A. The Tata Gesture
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>>1. All category of employees including those who had completed even 1 day as casuals were treated on duty during the time the hotel was closed.
>>2. Relief and assistance to all those who were injured and killed
>>3. The relief and assistance was extended to all those who died at the railway station, surroundings including the "Pav- Bha ji" vendor and the pan shop owners.
>>4. During the time the hotel was closed, the salaries were sent by money order.
>>5. A psychiatric cell was established in collaboration with Tata Institute of Social Sciences to counsel those who needed such help.
>>6. The thoughts and anxieties going on people's mind was constantly tracked and where needed psychological help provided.
>>7. Employee outreach centers were opened where all help, food, water, sanitation, first aid and counseling was provided. 1600 employees were covered by this facility.
>>8. Every employee was assigned to one mentor and it was that person's responsibility to act as a "single window" clearance for any help that the person required.
>>9. Ratan Tata personally visited the families of all the 80 employees who in some manner – either through injury or getting killed – were affected.
>>10. The dependents of the employees were flown from outside Mumbai to Mumbai and taken care off in terms of ensuring mental assurance and peace. They were all accommodated in Hotel President for 3 weeks.
>>11. Ratan Tata himself asked the families and dependents – as to what they wanted him to do.
>>12. In a record time of 20 days, a new trust was created by the Tatas for the purpose of relief of employees.
>>13. Whatg is unique is that even the other people, the railway employees, the police staff, the pedestrians who had nothing to do with Tatas were covered by compensation. Each one of them was provided subsistence allowance of Rs. 10K per month for all these people for 6 months.
>>14. A 4 year old granddaughter of a vendor got 4 bullets in her and only one was removed in the Government hospital. She was taken to Bombay hospital and several lacs were spent by the Tatas on her to fully recover her.
>>15. New hand carts were provided to several vendors who lost their carts.
>>16. Tata will take responsibility of life education of 46 children of the victims of the terror.
>>17. This was the most trying period in the life of the organisation. Senior managers including Ratan Tata were visiting funeral to funeral over the 3 days that were most horrible.
>>18. The settlement for every deceased member ranged from Rs. 36 to 85 lacs [One lakh rupees tranlates to approx 2200 US $ ] in addition to the following benefits:
>>a. Full last salary for life for the family and dependents;
>>b. Complete responsibility of education of children and dependents – anywhere in the world.
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>>c. Full Medical facility for the whole family and dependents for rest of their life.
>>d. All loans and advances were waived off – irrespective of the amount.
>>e. Counselor for life for each person
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>>B. Epilogue
>>1. How was such passion created among the employees? How and why did they behave the way they did?
>>2. The organisation is clear that it is not something that someone can take credit for. It is not some training and development that created such behaviour. If someone suggests that – everyone laughs
>>3. It has to do with the DNA of the organisation, with the way Tata culture exists and above all with the situation that prevailed that time. The organization has always been telling that customers and guests are #1 priority
>>4. The hotel business was started by Jamshedji Tata when he was insulted in one of the British hotels and not allowed to stay there.
>>5. He created several institutions which later became icons of progress, culture and modernity. IISc is one such institute. He was told by the rulers that time that he can acquire land for IISc to the extent he could fence the same. He could afford fencing only 400 acres.
>>6. When the HR function hesitatingly made a very rich proposal to Ratan – he said – do you think we are doing enough?
>>7. The whole approach was that the organisation would spend several hundred crore in re-building the property – why not spend equally on the employees who gave their life?
>>This is NOT COVERED BY Any NEWS CHANNELS
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>>Like JOKERS RUNNING AAJTAK, ZEE NEWS , IBN These People Busy SHOWING DOGS CATS and ,, and covers all BULLSHIT .
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>>Forward to all people who you know to show what Ratan Tata DID for his Employees !
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2a. Re: NO WORDS NECESSARY...
Posted by: "prashant baviskar" prash_baviskar@yahoo.co.in prash_baviskar
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 5:45 am ((PDT))
Dear Santosh,
Plz don't try to excuse yourself from funny moments of life.
These are nice pictures which spread smile and happiness.
Atlest these are better than personal allegations/misunderstandings on small things (which became very common thing in the group).
buy TC
Prashant Baviskar
TTA BB
Jalgaon
--- On Mon, 24/5/10, Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] NO WORDS NECESSARY...
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 24 May, 2010, 1:26 PM
hi frnds,
I have a small suggestion. Let us refrain ourselves from forwarding mails not in the interest of the group.
If somebody wants to receive/send mails, pls arrange to send it on the personal ids.
Once again this is a suggestion.
regards,
Santosh J. Devadiga.
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NO WORDS NECESSARY....
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just remember, if it made you smile, your friends
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HAVE A GREAT DAY FRIENDS.
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3a. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WE
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 5:45 am ((PDT))
Dear Santhosh,
Not a single responsible leader never told that "FITMENT SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO POST 2007 TTAs"
But many leaders informed that the fitment was not going to be given to the post 2007 employees(not only TTAs). Even before the wage revision discussions started I had written many times that why it was not going to be given. It was a warning. But some new TTAs took it otherwise and thought that we are saying that fitment should not be given to the newly posted TTAs. Many of them didn't try to understand what we are saying. Even in this May some new TTAs told me that management would at least give us a couple of thousands(after talking with me the same subject 100 times!)
Even with fed up, here I write the old mails once again. Please excuse..
1,The multiplication factor 1.91 was used to revise the existing scales for the post 01.01.2007 employees. This villain 1.91 was used not only for TTAs, not only for all the non executives, not only for executives & non executives of BSNL. And this multiplication factor was not invented by the BSNL management too. It is the DPE guide lines for the executives in CPSEs. So all the PSUs used the 1.91 multiplication factor for executives(they must had to). It will adversely affect all the young people of India who chooses to earn their bread and butter from the public sector. Do you hope that all the youngsters in the PSUs will unite against it? If you watch any job advertisement for any PSU then you can notice that E1(16400) and E2(20600) scales are same for all the PSUs. BSNL management had to follow the same and did it.(JTO's midscale.i.e.E1A-9850 - revised 18850- is still pending). Since the management gave the 1.91 MF to the executives one can't
expect 2.19 to non executives .Then how only for the TTAs?
You can see that no executive union including AIGETOA asking for the fitment for post 2007 JTOs since practically it is not possible. They were asking for Only 2005 batch JTOs who joined in 2007,due to delay in training, got the fitment. Many of them were seniors than the pre-2007 JTOs in the rank list, their training started in 2006, were on service as on 01.01.2007(But were in training with stipend. Fitment cannot be given to stipend). But you can see that executive unions are asking for the pay scale up gradation for new JTOs(E2) and SDEs(E3). It is a possible one.
2, The only non executive cadre that was direct recruited in BSNL after 01.01.2007 are TTAs. It is definitely heart breaking for them that they are not getting hike in salary but others are getting - whatever be the reasons. SNATTA had to look after this. We had some remedies to this problem. The IDA 7100 scale was equivalent to the CDA 5000 scale of diploma engineers in the Govt. This 5000, 5500 and 6500 merged together to form a revised 'executive scale' of 9300+4200 grade pay. B.Tech holders got 9300+4600. Considering all the facts we demanded the pre-revised 9200 scale for TTAs. We had a hope of getting at least 8570(E0) or 8600(E1) scale revised of which comes to 16400( JTO's scale going to be 18850).
We had an agreement with BSNLEU in this matter. But neither BSNLEU nor management was interested in giving justice to TTAs. Our CHQ leaders tried their best for it. But they were alone in that battle. I wrote many letters with charts to BSNLEU leaders explaining the coming fate of new TTAs. I asked many friends to attend EU's meetings or contact the local and district leaders of EU and pressurise them. But our friends(except few) were not ready to do anything other than criticising the leaders. They wanted the leaders to do everything for them.
Our leaders did their best. They put maximum pressure on EU leaders. But Namboodiri was ready to accept anything offered by the management as wage revision was severely delayed and around 10000 members resigned. Finally we threaten them of not signing the agreement. Then only EU asked the management for the merger of NE9(7100), NE10(7800) &NE11(8570) scales as equivalent to Govt departments. Then TTAs would get 16370 scale(revised NE11 scale). But the management rejected it and EU was not ready to delay the revision for it due to the heavy pressure from their members and other alliance partners. Finally Naboodiri agreed us to put the 'up gradation of some cadres' in the future . It is clearly mentioned in the agreement and will be decided in the coming NCMs. So still we have chances.
The agenda of the NCM is submitted to the management by the GS of BSNLEU. They may try to cheat us by avoiding the pay scale merger issue. CHQ alone can't pressurise them. So all the TTAs have to take their own responsibility. Contact EU leaders locally and make them understand the losses for new TTAs. One may be too angry towards EU. But it is a fact that only the recognised union can do something. If you resign from EU then you can't attend their meetings and put your demands. Better to reject the building funding of Rs.600 because they ask it to the members in the name of wage revision. No need for a new TTa to give it. If one want to resign then explain "why" in the resignation letter.
As in the past many friends will shout at me reading the first portion of the mail because it explains why the fitment is difficult to get. They will close their eyes to the second part because it needs some action from your side(as per our nature, action is the duty of CHQ only!)
Anyway, for the satisfaction, we should try for the fitment. CHQ already wrote a letter to EU. We may approach the court too (since some wonder may happen only if we are very lucky). But the chance is still there in the form of merger of scales or up gradation. It can be done only through the recognised union and it is the duty of everybody to pressurise EU for it
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Tue, 1/6/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WELCOME...........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 1 June, 2010, 9:51 PM
dear all,
many leadres(?) have quoted a lot of views/facts on the issue that "FITMENT SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO POST 2007 TTA's" & "THERE NO SALARY DECREASES TO NEW TTA's AS THEY WILL GET PERSONAL PAY"
pls answer my following qns.......
1. ON THE BASIS OF DPE GUIDLINES (http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a25. pdf) SNATTACHQ (WITH BSNLEU)DEMANDING THE DA RATE TO 78.2 % INSTEAD OF 68.8 %........... .(PARA NO 2(i))
NOW AS PER SAME PARA (http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a23. pdf &
http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a25. pdf), THERE IS NO ANY MENTION THAT
FITMENT WILL BE NOT GIVEN TO POST 2007 EMPLOYEES... ...
THEN WHY ALL OF YOU ARE IGNORING THE SAME????????
2. AS PER "THE EMPLOYEES PROVIDENT FUNDS AND MISCELLANEOUS PRROVISIOS ACT,1952, VIDE SEC-12 PARA-31" LINK--> http://employment. mizoram.gov. in/files/ pdf/Emp%20provt% 20fund%20n% 20misc%20prov. pdf------------ -
IT IS MENTIONED TAHT EPF CONTRIBUTION SHOULD NEVER BE DECREASE FROM PREVIOUS IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. ....
BUT UNDER NEW SCALE
FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL 2010 (WITH OLD PAY SCALE)
BASIC-7300
DP----3650
DA----8486
TOTAL-19436
EPF (12%)-----2332
FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 2010 (WITH WITH PAY SCALE)
BASIC-14010
DA----4875
TOTAL-18886
EPF (12%)-----2266
HERE CONTRIBUTION OF EPF DECREASES, WHICH IS THE CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED ACT......... ..HERE PERSONAL PAY CAN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE
MY RESPECTED SENIORS , HERE IS THE NO WAY OTHER THAN INCREASING THE BASIC PAY ...........
FOLLOWING MAY BE SOLUTIONS... ......
> MERGING OF NE9 NE10 & NE 11 SCALES TO E1......
> PROVIDE 5 BUNDLE INCREMENT TO TTA AS DONE IN THE CASE OF JTO's (8600 + 5* 250= 9850) PREVIOUSLY.. ...
> GRANTING FITMENT TO ALL EMPLOYEES RECTD. BEFORE 06/05/2010, BCZ ORDER ISSUED ON 07/05/2010 (AS IN THE CASE OF GOVT. OF TAMILNADU WAGE-REVISION)
i hope for sympathetic consideration from seniors..... ...
thnx
REMEMBER TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE
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3b. Re: WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER????????? THEN WE
Posted by: "Priyesh Varghese" mail2priyesh@gmail.com priyeshvarghese
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:49 am ((PDT))
Dear abhilash,
Thanks for your valuable suggestions, but I can't give hand to everything
that you have mentioned in the mail.
1) I don't like to think (only my opinion) fitment to all is not practically
possible and pay scale upgradation is
the only way to resolve the issue.
There was same anomaly in Tamil Nadu Government which has been resolved by
giving fitment on national pay to all affected employees only on the basis
of Representations received from certain employees association ( plz go
through reference no:2 of the order).The associations took initiative for
getting fitment to all employees, if they tried for scale up gradation what
might be the final result��?
How can you say practically it is not possible��?
BSNL is not only creating big discrimination among same cadre of non
executives performing same role and responsibilities but also violating the
provisions of Article-14( *right to equality before the law and equal
protection of the laws*) of Constitution of India in the name of cutoff date
of pay revision.
2)According to your mail executive associations are not trying for fitment
to 2006 and 2007 batch JTOs.
Executive unions already started asking for the fitment for post 2007
JTOs.plz go through the aibsnloa letter attached
plz go through AIBSNLOA letter to CMD .
Here they showing a clear picture of difference between pay
scale up-gradation and fitment benefit.
I decided to approach court and legally fight till reach a favourable
decision.
Expecting your valuable suggestions and guidelines.
--
Regards
Priyesh Varghese
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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> Dear Santhosh,
> Not a single responsible leader never told that *"FITMENT SHOULD NOT BEGIVEN TO POST 2007 TTAs"
> *
> But many leaders informed that the fitment was not going to be given to the
> post 2007 employees(not only TTAs). Even before the wage revision
> discussions started I had written many times that why it was not going to be
> given. It was a warning. But some new TTAs took it otherwise and thought
> that we are saying that fitment should not be given to the newly posted
> TTAs. Many of them didn't try to understand what we are saying. Even in this
> May some new TTAs told me that management would at least give us a couple of
> thousands(after talking with me the same subject 100 times!)
> Even with fed up, here I write the old mails once again. Please excuse..
> **
> *1*,The multiplication factor 1.91 was used to revise the existing scales
> for the post 01.01.2007 employees. This villain 1.91 was used not only for
> TTAs, not only for all the non executives, not only for executives & non
> executives of BSNL. And this multiplication factor was not invented by the
> BSNL management too. It is the DPE guide lines for the executives in CPSEs.
> So all the PSUs used the 1.91 multiplication factor for executives(they must
> had to). It will adversely affect all the young people of India who chooses
> to earn their bread and butter from the public sector. Do you hope that all
> the youngsters in the PSUs will unite against it? If you watch any job
> advertisement for any PSU then you can notice that E1(16400) and E2(20600)
> scales are same for all the PSUs. BSNL management had to follow the same and
> did it.(JTO's midscale.i.e.E1A-9850 - revised 18850- is still pending).
> Since the management gave the 1.91 MF to the executives one can't expect
> 2.19 to non executives .Then how only for the TTAs?
> You can see that no executive union including AIGETOA asking for the
> fitment for post 2007 JTOs since practically it is not possible. They were
> asking for Only 2005 batch JTOs who joined in 2007,due to delay in
> training, got the fitment. Many of them were seniors than the pre-2007 JTOs
> in the rank list, their training started in 2006, were on service as on
> 01.01.2007(But were in training with stipend. Fitment cannot be given to
> stipend). But you can see that executive unions are asking for the pay scale
> up gradation for new JTOs(E2) and SDEs(E3). It is a possible one.
> **
> *2*, The only non executive cadre that was direct recruited in BSNL after
> 01.01.2007 are TTAs. It is definitely heart breaking for them that they are
> not getting hike in salary but others are getting - whatever be the
> reasons. SNATTA had to look after this. We had some remedies to this
> problem. The IDA 7100 scale was equivalent to the CDA 5000 scale of diploma
> engineers in the Govt. This 5000, 5500 and 6500 merged together to form a
> revised 'executive scale' of 9300+4200 grade pay. B.Tech holders got
> 9300+4600. Considering all the facts we demanded the pre-revised 9200 scale
> for TTAs. We had a hope of getting at least 8570(E0) or 8600(E1) scale
> revised of which comes to 16400( JTO's scale going to be 18850).
> We had an agreement with BSNLEU in this matter. But neither BSNLEU nor
> management was interested in giving justice to TTAs. Our CHQ leaders tried
> their best for it. But they were alone in that battle. I wrote many letters
> with charts to BSNLEU leaders explaining the coming fate of new TTAs. I
> asked many friends to attend EU's meetings or contact the local and district
> leaders of EU and pressurise them. But our friends(except few) were not
> ready to do anything other than criticising the leaders. They wanted the
> leaders to do everything for them.
> Our leaders did their best. They put maximum pressure on EU leaders. But
> Namboodiri was ready to accept anything offered by the management as wage
> revision was severely delayed and around 10000 members resigned. Finally we
> threaten them of not signing the agreement. Then only EU asked the
> management for the merger of NE9(7100), NE10(7800) &NE11(8570) scales as
> equivalent to Govt departments. Then TTAs would get 16370 scale(revised NE11
> scale). But the management rejected it and EU was not ready to delay the
> revision for it due to the heavy pressure from their members and other
> alliance partners. Finally Naboodiri agreed us to put the 'up gradation of
> some cadres' in the future . It is clearly mentioned in the agreement and
> will be decided in the coming NCMs. So still we have chances.
>
> The agenda of the NCM is submitted to the management by the GS of BSNLEU.
> They may try to cheat us by avoiding the pay scale merger issue. CHQ alone
> can't pressurise them. So all the TTAs have to take their own
> responsibility. Contact EU leaders locally and make them understand the
> losses for new TTAs. One may be too angry towards EU. But it is a fact that
> only the recognised union can do something. If you resign from EU then you
> can't attend their meetings and put your demands. Better to reject the
> building funding of Rs.600 because they ask it to the members in the name of
> wage revision. No need for a new TTa to give it. If one want to resign then
> explain "why" in the resignation letter.
>
> As in the past many friends will shout at me reading the first portion of
> the mail because it explains why the fitment is difficult to get. They will
> close their eyes to the second part because it needs some action from your
> side(as per our nature, action is the duty of CHQ only!)
> Anyway, for the satisfaction, we should try for the fitment. CHQ already
> wrote a letter to EU. We may approach the court too (since some wonder may
> happen only if we are very lucky). But the chance is still there in the form
> of merger of scales or up gradation. It can be done only through the
> recognised union and it is the duty of everybody to pressurise EU for it
> Abhilash V
> CC,Kerala.
> 09447700766
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 1/6/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>* wrote:
>
>
> From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] WAGE REVISION OF NEW TTA's........HAVE U ANSWER?????????
> THEN WELCOME...........
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 1 June, 2010, 9:51 PM
>
>
> *dear all,*
> *many leadres(?) have quoted a lot of views/facts on the issue that
> "FITMENT SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO POST 2007 TTA's" & "THERE NO SALARY
> DECREASES TO NEW TTA's AS THEY WILL GET PERSONAL PAY"*
> *pls answer my following qns.......*
> *1. ON THE BASIS OF DPE GUIDLINES (**http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a25.
> pdf* <http://dpe.nic.in/newgl/glch04a25.pdf>*) SNATTACHQ (WITH
> BSNLEU)DEMANDING THE DA RATE TO 78.2 % INSTEAD OF 68.8 %........... .(PARA
> NO 2(i))*
> * NOW AS PER SAME PARA (**http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a23. pdf*<http://dpe.nic.in/newgl/glch04a23.pdf>
> * &*
> *http://dpe.nic. in/newgl/ glch04a25. pdf*<http://dpe.nic.in/newgl/glch04a25.pdf>
> *), THERE IS NO ANY MENTION THAT *
> *FITMENT WILL BE NOT GIVEN TO POST 2007 EMPLOYEES... ...*
> *THEN WHY ALL OF YOU ARE IGNORING THE SAME????????*
>
> *2. AS PER "THE EMPLOYEES PROVIDENT FUNDS AND MISCELLANEOUS PRROVISIOS
> ACT,1952, VIDE SEC-12 PARA-31" LINK--> **http://employment. mizoram.gov.
> in/files/ pdf/Emp%20provt% 20fund%20n% 20misc%20prov. pdf*<http://employment.mizoram.gov.in/files/pdf/Emp%20provt%20fund%20n%20misc%20prov.pdf>
> *------------ -*
> *IT IS MENTIONED TAHT EPF CONTRIBUTION SHOULD NEVER BE DECREASE FROM
> PREVIOUS IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. ....*
> *BUT UNDER NEW SCALE*
> *FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL 2010 (WITH OLD PAY SCALE)
> BASIC-7300
> DP----3650
> DA----8486
> TOTAL-19436
> EPF (12%)-----2332*
> *FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 2010 (WITH WITH PAY SCALE)
> BASIC-14010
> DA----4875
> TOTAL-18886
> EPF (12%)-----2266*
>
> *HERE CONTRIBUTION OF EPF DECREASES, WHICH IS THE CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE
> ABOVE MENTIONED ACT......... ..HERE PERSONAL PAY CAN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE*
> **
> *MY RESPECTED SENIORS , HERE IS THE NO WAY OTHER THAN INCREASING THE BASIC
> PAY ...........*
> *FOLLOWING MAY BE SOLUTIONS... ......*
> *> MERGING OF NE9 NE10 & NE 11 SCALES TO E1......
> > PROVIDE 5 BUNDLE INCREMENT TO TTA AS DONE IN THE CASE OF JTO's (8600 +
> 5* 250= 9850) PREVIOUSLY.. ...
> > GRANTING FITMENT TO ALL EMPLOYEES RECTD. BEFORE 06/05/2010, BCZ ORDER
> ISSUED ON 07/05/2010 (AS IN THE CASE OF GOVT. OF TAMILNADU WAGE-REVISION)*
> **
> **
> *i hope for sympathetic consideration from seniors..... ...*
>
> *thnx*
>
> *REMEMBER TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE*
>
> **
>
>
>
>
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4. About JTO LICE
Posted by: "Ravi" r2.bsnl@yahoo.com r2.bsnl
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 5:46 am ((PDT))
Hi Friends,
I am 2002 batch TTA. I want to know about JTO LICE. What is happening about it ? Is any possibility to conduct exam in 2010 ? Is SNATTA doing anything against courtcase or waiting. If someone has any information about it please tell me.
With Regards
Ravi Ranjan,TTA
WLL, Ara
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5. Re: pay revision
Posted by: "raman gupta" rg_jandial@yahoo.co.in rg_jandial
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 6:51 am ((PDT))
just wake up its time to .......... get united and fight for the justice of pay revision
with regards
raman gupta
tta bsnl jk
9469300904
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6. wage revision of DRTTA joining after 1-1-2007
Posted by: "Rahul Shinde" rahul_sh33@yahoo.com rahul_sh33
Date: Sat Jun 5, 2010 11:38 am ((PDT))
REQ. SNATTA
SNATTA ONLY FITMENT DEMAND FOR BETTER WAGE RIVISION OF DRTTA JOINING AFTER 1-1-2007.
In future Order will be issued 78.2 % of Basic pay should be merged with basic pay instead of 68.8% .
FOLLOWING CHART SHOW THAT FIVE INCREMENT DEMAND WILL BE LOSE BENEFIT IN FUTURE .
BASIC
7100
BASIC
7100
NEW BASIC
13600
68.80%
4884.8
78.20%
5552
First incriment
14010
B + 68.8%
11985
B + 78.2%
12652
second incriment
14440
FIT 30%
3595.2
FIT 30%
3796
third incriment
14880
forth incriment
15330
TOTAL
15590
TOTAL
16450
five incriment
15790
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7. Name in selection list no guarantee for job: SC
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:50 am ((PDT))
* Name in selection list no guarantee for job: SC
*
The Supreme Court has ruled that aspirants for government jobs cannot stake
their claim to appointment just because they have made it to the �select
list� containing names in excess of the number of vacancies.
A Bench of Justices BS Chauhan and Swatanter Kumar delivered the verdict on
Thursday, clarifying the legal position in two situations arising from the
government bringing out the selection lists with candidates equal to or more
than the number of vacancies. The purpose of making a list in excess of the
vacancies was to fill all the vacancies even if some candidates refused to
accept the appointment offer.
�It does not give any vested right in favour of the candidates whose names
appeared therein,� the Bench ruled. Once the number of vacancies determined
was filled, the selection process would come to an end and no further
appointment could be made from the same select list to fill positions that
were available later, the court clarified further.
The court delivered the verdict while disposing of an appeal by the Orissa
government challenging the High Court order.
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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8. Mobile SMS Prize Contests (game) are fake and fetch money from you
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:52 am ((PDT))
Mobile SMS Prize Contests (game or lottery) are fake and fetch money from
you.
*Just like email scams, *If you are getting spam SMS about any contest or
game etc, do not participate in it. All games are just made for making money
from your mobile account.
They usually send you sms about contest and ask you to send something to
certain number or call at certain number. *The cost for sending sms to that
number is usually high, or if you call at given number, call rate is also
high. *
The sender is working with mobile service provider. If you participate in
these contests you will sure lose your money as sms charge or call charge.
The sender of SMS will get commission of that money.
They never declare you winner or anything even if you participated
correctly.
Just don�t call or send SMS at any number provided in spam SMS or emails.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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9. How Soft-Drink can make your health miserable.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:54 am ((PDT))
*How Soft-Drink can make your health miserable.*
Each time you consume soft-drink, it takes away thin layer of bone from your
body. In one experiment one person kept a broken tooth in a bottle of of a
soft-drink and in 10 days tooth got dissolved into soft drink. Your tooth
and bone will decay each time you take soft- drink. Our human body stops
building bones after around the age of 30. Dissolved bone in soft-drink
accumulate at other organ of body like liver or kidney and can damage it.
The other true story is- Few months ago, there was a competition in Delhi
University (India) �Who can drink the most Soft-Drink?� The winner drank 8
bottles of Soft-Drink and Died at the spot because of too much carbon
dioxide in the blood and not enough oxygen.
The calorie in soft-drink is very high. It can affect adversely to your
health. *So, it will be better to consume Fresh Fruit Juice, Lassi,
Jal-jeera, Rooafza Sharbat, Lemon or Milk Shakes instead of soft-drinks.*
Pls forward such life saving messages to all your friends and *keep kids
away from soft-drink or aerated water.*
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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10. We should change our Attitude.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 5:00 am ((PDT))
hi friends,
pls see attached presentation on Attitude.
*Its a b'ful presentation on how one should change his approach on failures.
*
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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11. BSNL launched Annual Discounted Scheme for EVDO Data Cards.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 5:01 am ((PDT))
Hi friends,
BSNL has launched the much Annual payment option for its EVDO Data Card
Services like prevailing in its all Broadband Plans.
Now, we can save two months rent if we pay the Annual bills in advance.
For example, if someone has unlimited postpaid EVDO plan of 750 Rs. Then in
monthly option we have to pay 750 x 12 = 9000 Rs + 10.3 % Service tax = 9927
Rs.
But in Annual option scheme we need to pay only 7500 Rs + 10.3 % Service Tax
= 8272.5 Rs
Hence, *we can save exactly 1654.5 Rs*....!!!!
So what are you waiting for.... Go and Grab it..!!
The above discount tariff will be implemented w.e.f. 1st June 2010.
*Pls forward this email to your friends.*
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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12. Service Quality of BSNL to be Closely Monitored
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Jun 6, 2010 5:04 am ((PDT))
Service Quality of BSNL to be Closely MonitoredSachin Pilot, the Union
Minister of State for Communications and Information Technology, has
directed that quality of services being offered by BSNL be closely
monitored. *The exercise has been first launched in Rajasthan, Bihar,
Maharashtra, Kerala, and North-East- I Circles.*
*Quality of service will be monitored in the areas of call drops, traffic
congestion, downtime of telecom towers, promptness and effectiveness of
customer service, broadband expansion, push marketing and expansion. *
The performance of these circles would be measured not only against the
benchmarks prescribed by the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI),
but also against the best performance of any telecom operator in these
circles.
Steps will be taken to strengthen marketing for better brand building
through effective advertising, financial incentives, and exploration of new
distribution channels.
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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