Topics in this digest:
1. How to Slim Down: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
2. cec punjab
From: sanjay gupta
3. Information urgent required
From: Er. Munish Bhatheja
4a. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: muralidharan muralidharan
5a. Re: 3G Training
From: LALUNAIK
6a. Re: service quarter
From: Devarshi Shukla
7a. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
From: Devarshi Shukla
7b. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
From: Devarshi Shukla
8. Tinnitus: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
9. regarding 3g
From: manish raj
10. 3g O&M
From: shasikanta mutum
11. RPR. TO CHD. M.TRANSFER
From: Suraj Preet
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1. How to Slim Down: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:33 am ((PDT))
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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2. cec punjab
Posted by: "sanjay gupta" sanju515631@yahoo.co.in sanju515631
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:23 am ((PDT))
I also thank CHQ for organising circle conference in punjab.I fully agreed with Naveen to conduct meeting in either ludhiana or jalandhar for the ease of all our tta friend.Also two member from chq should be there.Once again thank for this positive step for all our tta brother.
sanjay kumar
tta ludhiana
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3. Information urgent required
Posted by: "Er. Munish Bhatheja" getmoni2001@yahoo.com bhatheja_munish
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:26 pm ((PDT))
U.P. Friends,
one bsnl no 8004424462 is calling me all the day and disturbing me for whole the day. Any CCN friend pl give me details of this no either on my mail id or by sms to 09417078787. Thanks
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4a. Re: Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:36 pm ((PDT))
Dear VK Anand
"
Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree. " This seems to be that like me Diploma holders will be untouched for the up gradation. I already mentally prepared as I have completed 55 years of age ( I think a some amount of TTAs will be there in my category ) about the promotion which is not in sight for the year or two? ( one think I can be satisfied with the name of designation change at least ) . Though the CHQ has done the comandable job, it has the responsibility to look after all TTAs welfare too. For this, the time bound promotion like excicutives will be the suitable choice . But is it possible???? . Negociation with all concerened can fetch us early result.
A Muralidharan TTA
District President SNATTA Trichy SSA
Tamil Nadu
--- On Sat, 28/8/10, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 28 August, 2010, 4:44 PM
Rakesh,
Who are you to ask this question to Dhiraj? What you did for us in these 8 years? Could you point out a single effort other than an elephant zero? You can't ask this question just because your contribution is just a mosquito compared to Dhiraj's. If there was no court case then definitely you would retire as TTA. We had a situation which can't be handled by even "United Nations". Now that is being handled by the CHQ. If they fails then it is our fate only. Nobody else can do better than them. Right? Your dream and hope is given only by them, man! The likes of Dhiraj, Pardeep etc are hard working for you even after becoming JTOs? For what? They are becoming fools since they are doing it for people like you. Dear Dhiraj, please do just one percentage of your efforts for your pet dog. It Will have 100 times more gratitude than us.
LOVELY! ..What lovely in you man?
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: LOVELY KOUNDAL <lovelykoundal@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Then wht is the Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 10:12 PM
Dear Mr. diraj choudhary
then pls clear it ....
wht solution you and SNATTA got in 8 years...???
All we got is....
Just court case and Contempt of court case
regards
Rakesh Choudhary 9418030555
TTA (TRANS)
Dalhousie , HP
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 6:31 PM
Dear V K Anand
It appears that you do not have the better understaning of this subject.
Sorry to say but your suggestions are misleaden to others.
However I know that your intentions are not so.
It is good to see that at least you have tried your level best.
I requst you to please refrain yourself to suggest others.
Most probably we will discuss it with all our members over this matter in our forthcoming AIC at GOA. Please come there, otherwise call me at 09412777798.
Pl treat it friendly.
Yours
Dhiraj Chaudhary
EX-GS SNATTA
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 11:56:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :
OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.
Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.
Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
LICE should be conducted regularly.
Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
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5a. Re: 3G Training
Posted by: "LALUNAIK" successlalu@yahoo.com successlalu
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:38 pm ((PDT))
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, shasikanta mutum <shasi_mutum@...> wrote:
>
> Hai,
> Is there any one who is working in 3G section and anyone who got 3 weeks 3G O&M training from JABALPUR. Please give me your contact no.
>
> Regards,
> M Shasikanta,
> TTA-Mobile,
> NE-II Circle.
> 9436023007
>
>
>
>hi i am lalunaik
i am interested to take 3 g training
my mobile no.9440161922
mail:successlalu@yahoo.com
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6a. Re: service quarter
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:38 pm ((PDT))
DEAR FRIENDS
WE ARE PAYING HRA AS A PERCETAGE OF BASIC PAY. IF ANY INDIVIDUAL "A" IN NE 9
PAY BAND WHICH BASIC PAY IS GREATER THAN THAT OF THE INDIVIDUL"B" IN E-1, THEN
"A" IS PAYING MORE AS COMPARED TO "B".THIS RULING IS UNJUSTIFIED AND SHOULD BE
RAISED IN NCM.
FOR EXAMPLE:-
E-1 NE-9
BASIC PAY 16400 18500
HRA @ 20% 3280 3700
ELIGIBLE FOR TYPE III NOT ELIGIBLE FOR TYPE III
Devarshi Shukla
LUDHIANA SSA
MB9417222200
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From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 9:11:56 PM
Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
Friend
You can get type III rd quarter by paying 3times of the licence fee subject to
type IIIrd quarter must be vacent for more than 90 days because of absence of
eligible candidate and you will vacate the quarter if any eligible candidate
requires so. Regarding this you can study swami's handbook for central
government employees rules.
regards
lalit
CS UP(E)
--- On Fri, 27/8/10, chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
wrote:
>From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com <chandan101204@indiatimes.com>
>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Friday, 27 August, 2010, 15:34
>
>
>
>dear friends
>is there any letter which shows that we can get type three with extra pay if
>intitled type two???
>is there any letter for area discription of type two and type three.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: lalit singh
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:20:32 +0530 (IST)
>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Dear Friends
> Before wage revision TTAs below Basic of 7900 was entitled for typeII quarter
>and having 7900 or above was entitled for the type IIIrd. But after wage
>revision person having NE9 scale are entitled for typeII and NE10, NE11, E1A and
>E2A are entitled for type III quarter.
>Lalit
>cs UP(E)
>
>--- On Thu, 26/8/10, Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Er. Munish Bhatheja <getmoni2001@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: RE: TTABSNL service quarter
>>To: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>>Cc: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>>Date: Thursday, 26 August, 2010, 20:15
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Actually quarter allotment is based on pay scale. Wherever i think after old
>>scale of 8500, one get entitled for type 3 quarters. And if you want type 3
>>quarter while you are entitled for type 2 then you can get that on payment of
>>extra amount per month.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
>>Sent: 26/08/2010 12:46:29 pm
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Cc: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: TTABSNL service quarter
>>
>>dear friends
>>i have joint bsnl in sep 2008. since then i am trying to get service quarter.
>>but there is no any cercular which say that which type of quarter is intitled
>>for DRTTA. some says it is type two which have one room one hall and kitchen.
>>but here some gets type two which has got only one room and kitchen.
>>
>>can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one
>>type quarters.
>>
>>is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one
>>1BK.
>>
>>
>>pls clearify.
>>
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7a. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:58 pm ((PDT))
dear friends,
We are expecting from our Circle Executive to set the Circle Conference in
Ludhiana or Jalander SSA. It is convenient for all Punjab TTAs to attend the
Conference. We are also requesting to CHQ to intervene n send their at least
two senior member to ensure success n faith.
Devarshi Shukla
Ludhiana SSA
Mob:-9417222200
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From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com; dharmen24@yahoo.co.in
Cc: SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 August, 2010 8:34:03 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punjab,
SNATTA.
DEAR, GS Dharmendra Verma,
first, I want to extend my heartiest thanks on behalf of all punjab SNATTA
members that ultimately you haveconsidered our long time pending judiscious
demand for circle confrence here in punjab and request to circle body Punjab to
act upon the suggestions made by SNATTA CHQ as well as urge of all the
(old/new) TTAs of Punjab for a open session and equal chance of reprsentation in
SNATTA.
some points of serious concern are also to be noticed and act upon;
That there should be two to three senior representative from SNATTA CHQ must
attend the confrence and to ensure the success of the confrence. I strongly urge
to YOUR GODSELF to attend the meeting and give us chance to welcome you in
punjab.
That the venue and time of the confrence must be convenient to all the TTAs as
it should be like in Ludhiana or Jalandhar and on sunday or on a holiday so that
all the tta could attend it, ie Ludhiana / Jalandhar are at the centre place n
geographicaly suitable to all .
I again request to THE CHQ to please ensure your presence and convey this to
circle body if there is any kind of problem we all ttas from Ludhiana/Punjab are
ready to support CHQ and Circle body to make the circle confrence successful n
fruitful for SNATTA.
THANKING YOU ALL N IN HOPE FOR THE GREAT FUTURE OF ALL THE
TTAs
REGARDS
SHAILENDRA
SARASWAT
EX-DS,
SNATTA, LUDHIANA
From: dharmen24 <dharmen24@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 12:39:24 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
Dear Friends of Punjab Circle
Since last few weeks a campaign of sort has been started by certain districts in
Punjab to conduct the Circle Conference. While appreciating the concerns of all
the parties I would like to convey my resent towards the language used by the
participants. This shows that we still lack compassion and respect towards each
other.
I had conveyed my feelings to Sh. Hakam Singh, Circle Secretary, Punjab about
the Circle Conference. I have requested him to notify the Circle Conference at
the Earliest by giving ample time to all the Districts to attend. He has agreed
to conduct the Circle Conference and soon intimate CHQ about the dates.
I wish all the best to the Punjab Circle and have full faith in the abilities of
Shri. Tejinder Pal Singh, Circle Coordinator and Shri. Hakam Singh that they
will make all out efforts for the Circle Conference.
Regards
Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA
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7b. Fw: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punj
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:58 pm ((PDT))
dear friends,
We are expecting from our Circle Executive to set the Circle Conference in
Ludhiana or Jalander SSA. It is convenient for all Punjab TTAs to attend the
Conference. We are also requesting to CHQ to intervene n send their at least
two senior member to ensure success n faith.
Devarshi Shukla
Ludhiana SSA
Mob:-9417222200
________________________________
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com; dharmen24@yahoo.co.in
Cc: SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 August, 2010 8:34:03 AM
Subject: TTABSNL Re: Thanks and urgent urge for Circle Conference of Punjab,
SNATTA.
DEAR, GS Dharmendra Verma,
first, I want to extend my heartiest thanks on behalf of all punjab SNATTA
members that ultimately you haveconsidered our long time pending judiscious
demand for circle confrence here in punjab and request to circle body Punjab to
act upon the suggestions made by SNATTA CHQ as well as urge of all the
(old/new) TTAs of Punjab for a open session and equal chance of reprsentation in
SNATTA.
some points of serious concern are also to be noticed and act upon;
That there should be two to three senior representative from SNATTA CHQ must
attend the confrence and to ensure the success of the confrence. I strongly urge
to YOUR GODSELF to attend the meeting and give us chance to welcome you in
punjab.
That the venue and time of the confrence must be convenient to all the TTAs as
it should be like in Ludhiana or Jalandhar and on sunday or on a holiday so that
all the tta could attend it, ie Ludhiana / Jalandhar are at the centre place n
geographicaly suitable to all .
I again request to THE CHQ to please ensure your presence and convey this to
circle body if there is any kind of problem we all ttas from Ludhiana/Punjab are
ready to support CHQ and Circle body to make the circle confrence successful n
fruitful for SNATTA.
THANKING YOU ALL N IN HOPE FOR THE GREAT FUTURE OF ALL THE
TTAs
REGARDS
SHAILENDRA
SARASWAT
EX-DS,
SNATTA, LUDHIANA
From: dharmen24 <dharmen24@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 12:39:24 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Circle Conference of Punjab, SNATTA.
Dear Friends of Punjab Circle
Since last few weeks a campaign of sort has been started by certain districts in
Punjab to conduct the Circle Conference. While appreciating the concerns of all
the parties I would like to convey my resent towards the language used by the
participants. This shows that we still lack compassion and respect towards each
other.
I had conveyed my feelings to Sh. Hakam Singh, Circle Secretary, Punjab about
the Circle Conference. I have requested him to notify the Circle Conference at
the Earliest by giving ample time to all the Districts to attend. He has agreed
to conduct the Circle Conference and soon intimate CHQ about the dates.
I wish all the best to the Punjab Circle and have full faith in the abilities of
Shri. Tejinder Pal Singh, Circle Coordinator and Shri. Hakam Singh that they
will make all out efforts for the Circle Conference.
Regards
Dharmendra Verma
General Secretary
SNATTA
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8. Tinnitus: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:00 am ((PDT))
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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9. regarding 3g
Posted by: "manish raj" manish240885@yahoo.com manish240885
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:12 am ((PDT))
i have not done any 3g training but i can give you commands for resefting and to see 3g sites status i am tta in ad msc and i am monitring 3g sites
con-9452095587
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10. 3g O&M
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:49 am ((PDT))
Hai,
Is there any one who is working in 3G section and anyone
who got 3 weeks 3G O&M training from JABALPUR. Please give me your
contact no. We have some RF issues at Imphal.
Regards,
M Shasikanta,
TTA-Mobile,
NE-II Circle.
9436023007
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11. RPR. TO CHD. M.TRANSFER
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:56 am ((PDT))
IF ANYBOBY INTRESED TO COME IN ROPAR FROM CHD. CONTACT ME.
SURAJPREET SINGH
9779112806
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