ttabsnl94: TTABSNL Digest Number 1863[1 Attachment]

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to thedeadlock !!!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

2a. supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: Pr Yadav
2b. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: shahulhameed noorulameen

3.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: rajani kartik

4a. SNATTA Plateform
From: pankaj212001
4b. Re: SNATTA Plateform
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH

5a. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: shailendra saraswat
5b. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: pradip panigrahy
5c. DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: Razz Dcool
5d. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: Gola Singh

6a. Broadband modem problem
From: B.S.SWAMY
6b. Re: Broadband modem problem
From: kalaivani
6c. Re: Broadband modem problem
From: M K SAHA

7. Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

8. Latest Poll Trend for Designation Change till date.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9. Calm Down my dear friends
From: pradip panigrahy

10. BSNL can buy equipment from Chinese vendors: Govt
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

11. Altitude Sickness: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

12. regarding DSLAM port problem error '678'
From: chaudhari

13a. Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
From: Suraj Preet
13b. Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
From: Suraj Preet

14. Fw: NIB working
From: M K SAHA

15. BSNL can buy equipment from Chinese vendors
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

16. BSNL to launch 'Mobile Money Transfer' service soon
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

17. BSNL to restructure business to make it profitable
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

Messages
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1a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to thedeadlock !!!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:55 am ((PDT))

hi dear,
understand the flow of communication rather than words used.
chaps means fellow man, pls check the oxford dictionary.
i have not got ur mail when young guys used absurd word for their elder
brothers. why u kept silent then.?
i understand ur feelings but at the same time pls do understand and regard
us like elder brothers.
we are always with u my dear.

regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:34 AM, raj upadhyay <raj.ku@indiatimes.com>wrote:

>
>
> A well thought,well worked out acceptable thought.I am in
> agreement with you to discuss the issue.
> New TTAs also are coming in line to understand and work to achieve
> the goal of SNATTA. They have started participating actively. Let's call
> them friends. *The use of words like chaps doesn't fit to the degree of
> love/ affection/respect, we have for our members.
> *----- Original Message -----
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:06:14 +0530 (IST)
> Subject: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to the
> deadlock !!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> To the some extent i am also *agree with Mr. VK Anand and Vikas* about the
> *thinking of reverse engineering.*
> We have to *start looking back now*. We have to see some* alternative
> plans.* Pls negotiate with them all at the earliest and Call an unofficial
> meeting with Union and management to resolve the Issue. We can make it out
> of the court settlement.
>
> this *yahoo group platform has already generated a lot of Ideas and
> Enthusiasm* among its member TTAs but what about those still left
> untouched by the ongoing activities of SNATTA. We have to generate awareness
> about SNATTA activities among all TTAs so our strength becomes more strong.
> All are requested to let other TTAs also join this group and make it large
> and strong.
>
> We have a lot of *Talented Technical Associates* (TTAs), everyone is
> having some or the other unique skill. Pls use them appropriately. *We
> talk a lot about every damn thing on this planet but what about our
> PROMOTION..??*
>
> These young chaps ( TTAs 2007, 2009) think about their salaries only... the
> only mail coming from them is about fit-ment only. Have they ever thought
> about Promotion..?? We too agree that pay revision has not taken place to
> its best but u all New TTAs are not only concerned with this issue u have to
> involve urself with bigger opportunities also. I request everyone to think
> more about ur future also like* CS Santosh of Kolkatta doing. i like his
> gutsy attitude.I request him to enroll all New TTAs in SNATTAs fold and make
> our family large and Strong.*
>
> i am* highly impress with the way Mr.Anand took pain and generated new
> FRESH IDEAS* for us to think about. Its not easy to gather all Ideas for a
> particular cause. The worries of Amit Sharma should also taken into concern
> while thinking of any new line of action.
>
> i am of the View that we should* do some Restructuring among SNATTA body*and We should have more people in CHQ Body.
>
> in my opinion, like BSNLEU and SNATTA Haryana Circle made 3 Assistant CS
> likewise *CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General Secretaries (AGS)*.
> *We can also have more Vice-Presidents *to look after the entire affairs
> of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role. We should
> choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan, JK etc. so
> that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can send our AGS
> to represent our view in every meeting with management. We should try to
> attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. *We can have more democratic,
> liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries.* It will provide
> some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with so many
> requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some work to
> other members and make them responsible towards association. *EXAMPLE*, we
> can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any AGS. likewise
> we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee or
> Wage-Revision committee. *Everybody should have independent charge to look
> after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among themselves.
> *
> We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in *Circle Body* to have
> their more involvement.
>
> i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I
> will present my views on this platform so that people coming there can take
> this points to further level. *i want that whoever attending AIC there
> should come up with something new and fresh to fight for our battle.* One
> can make a long list out of all discussions happened on this group and
> present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some matter before
> hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join there because
> of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.
>
> *I also want to share one of my personal thought with the group that we
> could have AIC meeting in New Delhi also so that everyone comes there and we
> could even show our protest march for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar
> Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one shot. We don't have enough time to show
> our real concern We have to show our resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in
> Practical form. We could generate Media and public awareness with our
> protest march as done by JTOs in past. Everybody should know the pain and
> dissatisfaction prevailing among Qualified and Talented TTAs of BSNL. We
> have to do some type of Drama/Stunt to make them realize about our genuine
> demands. Now is the high Time to show some revolt against BSNL Mgmt like
> some Indians did against Britsihers in 1857. i shared the same with Punjab
> TTAs in Ludhiana meeting recently where i told them that we should went to
> Sanchar Bhavan in Full Black Dress to show our protest. Can't we do this
> ..?? Is there Anybody who agrees with me.??
> *
> *These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense
> only. anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest
> aside.* i will post my more views in coming days.
>
> regards,
> Bandhan Preet Singh
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>> it was certainly a very well thought and an eye opener post as what we
>> have achieved and what we could have achieved since the formation of SNATTA.
>>
>> I also personally feel that the court cases and the subsequent judgments
>> are going to take us nowhere,number one-the legal machinery is time
>> consuming and breadth taking we all would agree.number two-the judgments are
>> too vague and one is left with own wisdom to interpret it.The court said the
>> diverted personnel should be reverted back and the post should be restored
>> but this left BSNL clue less as how this can be done when they actually have
>> taken charge as JTOs and many have even been promoted to higher cadres.Yes
>> they can be reverted back outright but this will again cause a rippling
>> chain of court cases we never know.
>>
>> **
>> But mind all I am/was not against SNATTAs court case to restore the
>> diverted post.This is and was our most revered achievement so far that truly
>> took us to new high and got us the respect from the adversaries.
>>
>> I am just saying that we did this we did that but we still are TTAs and
>> would remain for some time I think because some or the other feel that they
>> have the right on post of JTO and they approach court and the court gives a
>> stay.And BSNL also is in no mood to vacate the stay.
>>
>> So in this case we should look for some greener pastures beyond the
>> premises of court and see if there is some middle path.
>>
>> And what Anand has suggested has certainly something to be given a deep
>> thought by all.
>>
>> *Vikas Kumar Gupta*
>>
>> *TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand*
>>
>> *9431100511*
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tue, 17 August, 2010 12:26:55 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Friends!!
>>
>> This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I
>> am sure this is going to be a historical one.
>>
>> Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important
>> agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it
>> possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is
>> remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit
>> till now.
>>
>> We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in
>> rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing
>> the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and
>> after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock.
>> Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the
>> solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle
>> path to solve the problem.
>>
>> As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying
>> top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to
>> convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to
>> device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
>>
>> **
>>
>> *The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:*
>>
>> Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of
>> JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be
>> considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled
>> according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In
>> subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some
>> posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and
>> given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and
>> now these diversions are pending.
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Let us first see who stake holders are:*
>>
>> **
>> **
>>
>> 1. *Management*: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal
>> post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be
>> accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects
>> Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
>>
>> 2.*OJTOS* : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173
>> OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no
>> waiting list. Details are as follows:
>>
>> KRL *398* ,AP *293*, MHR *208* , GJR *107* , WB *95* ,UPE *70*, HRN *24,*KTK
>> *316,*TND *258,*MPCHG *163,*COLCTD *104* ,RJST *75,*CHTD *53*,JK *9*
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>> 3*.DR TTA *: We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in
>> vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd
>> batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle.
>> this might slightly differ with other circles.
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> *The proposed solution : *
>> **
>>
>> - OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
>> - We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to
>> fulfillment of following demands.
>> - Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
>> - BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the
>> case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or
>> in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far
>> less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test
>> only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.
>> - Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to
>> bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be
>> conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for
>> coming batches.
>> - LICE should be conducted regularly.
>> - Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have
>> completed AMIE/ Degree.
>>
>> These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks
>> like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we
>> might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution
>> will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO,
>> NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
>>
>> Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will
>> require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not
>> to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with
>> different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
>>
>> I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss.
>> I hope CHQ will think over it.
>>
>> May god bless us to achieve our goal .
>>
>> Thanks for your time!!!!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> V.K.Anand
>>
>> TTA MSC , Jharkhand
>>
>> 9431103335
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
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2a. supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "Pr Yadav" pryadav55@yahoo.com pryadav55
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:52 am ((PDT))

Dear Chq
kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
"senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"

regards
PANCHAM R YADAV
TTA BSNL

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2b. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:03 pm ((PDT))

Dear Pr Yadav
This is what called as 'Pay Anomaly' and this can be represented through
personal application through Accts channel. This used to be always happened when
a new pay commission is implemented. When the problem is convinced by the
finance authorities, the senior and junior will be brought at par with same pay.
This will occur with one who gets his annual increment in the month of february
or march etc... Pse represent ur case in the existing procedure.
Union/association office bearers may better highlight this info to all.
SN Ameen

Jeddah,KSA

________________________________
From: Pr Yadav <pryadav55@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 2:21:26 PM
Subject: TTABSNL supplimentary item for 24th NCM

Dear Chq
kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
"senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"

        regards
PANCHAM R YADAV
      TTA BSNL

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3.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "rajani kartik" rajanikartik@yahoo.co.in rajanikartik
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:52 am ((PDT))

The management has taken about more than one year, after completing the pay revision to executives, for pay revision to non-executives. Now how can we think about out of court settlement with management. It will take about four to five years for convincing management and after that the conclusion will be "Management is not considering us and we must now go to court." so instead of this situation, the present situation is good. At this stage, we will get, may be with some more time, what we are elligible for. But negotiating, we won't get nothing. If one platform is with us for unlocking the deadlock, someone else will go for CAT or COURT and we will be there. So my personal view is that 'we are at favourable position and we should not go back from here'. We should go to CAT or Court for stopping the LICE conducting for JTO to SDE. And for this, we have genuine reason that since we are suppposed to become JTO and we might also elligible for this LICE
(i.e. jto to sde) if no injustice had happened to us. so we can ask for stay on LICE for JTO to SDE until our issue (JTO lice) gets resolved.

--- On Wed, 18/8/10, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 3:49 PM

Dear All,
it was certainly a very well thought and an eye opener post as what we have achieved and what we could have achieved since the formation of SNATTA.

I also personally feel that the court cases and the subsequent judgments are going to take us nowhere,number one-the legal machinery is time consuming and breadth taking we all would agree.number two-the judgments are too vague and one is left with own wisdom to interpret it.The court said the diverted personnel should be reverted back and the post should be restored but this left BSNL clue less as how this can be done when they actually have taken charge as JTOs and many have even been promoted to higher cadres.Yes they can be reverted back outright but this will again cause a rippling chain
of court cases we never know.

But mind all I am/was not against SNATTAs court case to restore the diverted post.This is and was our most revered achievement so far that truly took us to new high and got us the respect from the adversaries.
I am just saying that we did this we did that but we still are TTAs and would remain for some time I think because some or the other feel that they have the right on post of JTO and they approach court and the court gives a stay.And BSNL also is in no mood to vacate the stay.So in this case we should look for some greener pastures beyond the premises of court and see if there is some middle path.And what Anand has suggested has certainly something to be given a deep thought by all.
Vikas Kumar
GuptaTTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand9431100511

From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 12:26:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!

Dear Friends!!

This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.

Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.

We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.

As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.

The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:

Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.

Let us first see who stake holders are:

1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
ã€€
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9

3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.

The proposed solution :

OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.

We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.

Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.

BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.

Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.

LICE should be conducted regularly.

Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.

Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.

May god bless us to achieve our goal .

Thanks for your time!!!!

Kind regards,

V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335

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4a. SNATTA Plateform
Posted by: "pankaj212001" pankaj212001@yahoo.com pankaj212001
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:53 am ((PDT))

Dear PUNJAB SNATTIAN

Of days we have reading mails blaming each other for one or other thing.The centre of discussion involves only four to five persons Mr Hakam Singh,Pritpal singh,Shailendra etc.I personally believe that we should make use of Snatta Plateform in a more constructive way rather blaming each other.there are problem related with staff para 8 transfers.
I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM MR PRITPAL SINGH DP BSNLEU DS SNATTA THAT THERE ARE TWO TO/THREE GENIUNE CASES OF PARA-8 LYING PENDING IN HIS OWN SSA HOSHIARPUR INCLUDING MINE.

SO AS A LEADER OF TWO ORGANISATIONS EU/SNATTA HE SHOULD FIRST TRY TO SORT OUT PROBLEM IN HIS OWN SSA AND THEN MOVE TOWARDS MATTERS NATIONAL URGENGY.

Pankaj Saini
TTA(Project vijay)
Mukerian,9417900179

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4b. Re: SNATTA Plateform
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:06 am ((PDT))

Mr Pankaj Saini

Thx aapko yaad to aaya SNATTA Platform. Call me tommarow you will be transfered within two months. Its my promise dear. I am angree with u that whenever i met u u never discuused the same issue with me.SNATTA paltform aaye ho to yeh jaan lo i m DP of both BSNLEU and beloved SNATTA byeeeeee

WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556

preet

--- On Thu, 19/8/10, pankaj212001 <pankaj212001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: pankaj212001 <pankaj212001@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL SNATTA Plateform
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 8:16 PM

Dear PUNJAB SNATTIAN

SO AS A LEADER OF TWO ORGANISATIONS EU/SNATTA HE SHOULD FIRST TRY TO SORT OUT PROBLEM IN HIS OWN SSA AND THEN MOVE TOWARDS MATTERS NATIONAL URGENGY.

Pankaj Saini
TTA(Project vijay)
Mukerian,9417900179

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5a. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:53 am ((PDT))

DEAR friednds:
COME to me and pls go through the mail already send to chq and circle
coordinator along with the attachments of signatures and resolution passed by
the distt body of then ludhiana body? Then only gve me the reply attached to
that n come to ask for any ur query. the wrritten letter n signature of all the
ludhiana TTAs was attaced with that along with urs mr herjinder singh first u n
pritpal ask to circle body the valid reason behind that,then pls cme to me and u
people r trying to divide it between local n outsiders i never wrote this thing
in any mail or letter.I have pity on u people' mentality n sick thought level. I
again request to CHQ to intervene in this matter n come forward for the new
circle body formation here in democratic way, Because there is no end of the
blame n excuses so dear friends call the circle confrence here n give the
reasons in front of all ludhiana TTAs not to harjinder singh or in a single
locked room of ur peers.

________________________________
From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com; snattapunjab@gmail.com;
circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com; snattakerala@gmail.com;
snattarajasthan@gmail.com; snattaap@gmail.com; snattabihar@gmail.com;
snattagujrat@gmail.com; snattaharyana@gmail.com; snattahp@gmail.com;
snattajharkhand@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com; snattajk@gmail.com;
snattamp@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 8:26:57 AM
Subject: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .

Now it is my questions to all tta friends that WHTHER IS A
SUFFICIENT REASON TO dissolve circle body ? kindly think on this ill-logical
demand of shalender.

From the last two years your contribution to snatta ludhiana
is well know to all.

some a few queries from you-----

1. Have you attended meeting at delhi in last - september for 10 to 7 years
reduction ?

answer is NO .

2. Have you attended meeting at residence of com. namboodiri for 2 YEARS
RELAXATION FOR JTO-EXAM.

answer is NO.

3. Have you attended AIC-GOA at bhopal ?

answer is NO.

4. Have you attended any meeting of SNATTA EVER AT ANY PLACE ?

answer is NO .

5. Have you attended AIC-Hyderabad ?

answer is NO.

6. Have you atteneded ANY DHARNAS & DEMONSTRATIONS call by UNITED FORUM on
behalf of ludhiana.

answer is NO.

7. FOR MANY MORE QUESTIONS , YOU HAVE MANY MORE NOs.

SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN GROUND YOUR SCORE IS ZEROS, BUT
ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE YOU ARE VERY EXCELLENT.

Request to all & all chq leadres & all cc , PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY
CONCLUSION ON A BASE OF LIP SERVICE OF SHALENDER , KINDLY LOOK HIS SERVICE FOR
SNATTA IN GROUND.

Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

>From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: TTABSNL Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in
SNATTA.
>To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:41 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Forwarded Message ----
>From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
>To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in;
>snattachq@gmail.com
>Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
>Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
>Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>To,
>The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA
>
As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER
SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason
,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir
petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover

On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a
few ssaâ€™s of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any
single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members

i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present
circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA
movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the
punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA
cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab
circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new
circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTAâ€™s who are the
strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of
Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta

HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >

Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana
SNATTA

09417545999-01612071503

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5b. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "pradip panigrahy" pradip_panigrahy@yahoo.co.in pradip_panigrahy
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 pm ((PDT))

Mr Gola Urf Mr Harjinder urf Mr
Would u mind just stopping all these foolish things
what u want to prove from it . U are doing doing nothing just spoiling the much
awaited peace of snatta

Do u know after so many efforts Mr hakkam and mr shailendra ( The Ex ds Ludhiana
) agreed to dissolve the matter by sitting on one table .
Then why are u doing these things .let us forget the acctions of Mr Shailendra
would u mind in counting us the acctions taken by you in the welfare of
ludhiana tta's

and secondly on ur chargesheet issue i think u are having at least that much
memory to remind that in complete ludhiana u just informed only to hakkam singh
only ur chargesheet issue and when we came to know regarding this we just tried
to be with u and asked u about this then why are u asking somebody regarding
the acction .
Secondly i am the person who talked to ur JTO,SDE ( which if u need can be
verified from ur JTO Mr faisal-9417300052)

Then my dear friend just stop all these things and dont spoil urs as well as
others peace of mind and precious time of the readers of this group .

So u better know nobody in snatta has done anything constructively so far . so
dont blame any body and if possible if u cant do any good things then just
prevent urself from spreading worst of the things

A humble request dude

Pradip Kumar Panigrahy
Corporate Cell,BSNL
Punjab Telecom Circle ,Ludhiana
Contact No- 0161-2771977,2099002,9417233777

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >

Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana
SNATTA

09417545999-01612071503

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5c. DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "Razz Dcool" razzdcool@yahoo.com razzdcool
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 pm ((PDT))

Shailendra Saraswat is write, the old circle body is needed to be desolved
not only because of the culprits but also because we have new stuff who should
be the part of the body.Now CS needs to take rest as every one is now aware of
his dirty tricks & we have got very intelligent & better new commanders.

________________________________
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 11:23:30 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .

SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN GROUND YOUR SCORE IS ZEROS, BUT
ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE YOU ARE VERY EXCELLENT.

Request to all & all chq leadres & all cc , PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY
CONCLUSION ON A BASE OF LIP SERVICE OF SHALENDER , KINDLY LOOK HIS SERVICE FOR
SNATTA IN GROUND.

Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >

                                                                     Regargs,
                                                            Shailendra Saraswat
                                                            Ex D S Ludhiana
SNATTA

09417545999-01612071503

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5d. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:03 pm ((PDT))

Dear Shalendra ,

                   Kindly give the reply to MY 7 QUESTIONS asked to you , Again i guess that your answer will be NO, NO ,NO.........................

                  Kndly accept that beyond LIP SERVICE your contribution to snatta is only NOTING OR BIG ZERO. Your problem is that you WANT LEADERSHIP ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE.

               Kindly MOVE FOR CAUSE OF SNATTA , i promise to you that i will favour to you to become circle secretary of snatta punjab.

               Kindly show me any proof of any meeting attended by you for cause of snatta.

              My request to you , please dont become VICTOM

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:53 AM

DEAR friednds:
COME to me and pls go through the mail already send to chq and circle coordinator along with the attachments of signatures and resolution passed by the distt body of then ludhiana body? Then only gve me the reply attached to that n come to ask for any ur query. the wrritten letter n signature of all the ludhiana TTAs was attaced with that along with urs mr herjinder singh first u n pritpal ask to circle body the valid reason behind that,then pls cme to me and u people r trying to divide it between local n outsiders i never wrote this thing in any mail or letter.I have pity on u people' mentality n sick thought level. I again request to CHQ to intervene in this matter n come forward for the new circle body formation here in democratic way, Because there is no end of the blame n excuses so dear friends call the circle confrence here n give the reasons in front of all ludhiana TTAs not to harjinder singh or in a single locked room of ur peers.

From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com; snattapunjab@gmail.com; circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com; snattakerala@gmail.com; snattarajasthan@gmail.com; snattaap@gmail.com; snattabihar@gmail.com; snattagujrat@gmail.com; snattaharyana@gmail.com; snattahp@gmail.com; snattajharkhand@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com; snattajk@gmail.com; snattamp@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 8:26:57 AM
Subject: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .

Dear EX-DS Ludhiana,

                                Yes , i fully understnad your demand for dissolution of circle body & the base you have given for dissulution is given below--

1. Hakam & Tejinder are DICTATORs only.

2. You & some ttas dont like him for no reasons.

                          Above are the clear reason for YOUR CAUSE FOR DISSOLUTION ONLY.

            Now it is my questions to all tta friends that WHTHER IS A SUFFICIENT REASON TO dissolve circle body ? kindly think on this ill-logical demand of shalender.

                  From the last two years your contribution to snatta ludhiana is well know to all.

some a few queries from you-----

1. Have you attended meeting at delhi in last - september for 10 to 7 years reduction ?

answer is NO .

2. Have you attended meeting at residence of com. namboodiri for 2 YEARS RELAXATION FOR JTO-EXAM.

answer is NO.

3. Have you attended AIC-GOA at bhopal ?

answer is NO.

4. Have you attended any meeting of SNATTA EVER AT ANY PLACE ?

answer is NO .

5. Have you attended AIC-Hyderabad ?

answer is NO.

6. Have you atteneded ANY DHARNAS & DEMONSTRATIONS call by UNITED FORUM on behalf of ludhiana.

answer is NO.

7. FOR MANY MORE QUESTIONS , YOU HAVE MANY MORE NOs.

                     SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN GROUND YOUR SCORE IS ZEROS, BUT ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE YOU ARE VERY EXCELLENT.

             Request to all & all chq leadres & all cc , PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY CONCLUSION ON A BASE OF LIP SERVICE OF SHALENDER , KINDLY LOOK HIS SERVICE FOR SNATTA IN GROUND.

Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:41 PM

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in; snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.

To,
The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA

As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason ,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover
On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a few ssaâ€™s of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members

WE however came to know from some of my friends of other ssa and attended the meeting to discuss regarding such kind of action . Around 35 to 40 TTAâ€™s of Ludhiana SSA reached the meeting venue without any invitation or formal notice and showed their deep disconsent in this kind of behavior and urged the circle representatives to solve the issues first but Hakam singh told us that this is only a simple meeting and nothing else .But recently it was observed on SNATTA site that Circle conference was held on that particular day which is completely false .he also mentioned some objectionable remarks to our CHQ n said that he has nothing to do with previous wage negotiation n was forced to signed that by CHQ ,he was trying to convince our new TTA FRIENDS. BY this improper n false remark what he want to do would he try to support the SNATTA or trying to blemish on its existance n noble motives ??
i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTAâ€™s who are the strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta

Hence CHQ is particularly being requested to intervene in this matter and order circle representatives to held the circle conference immediately in LUDHIANA so that before ACM GOA we may also be able to send its actual representatives their n take poper decision in the total welfare of TTAs.

HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >

                                                                     Regargs,
                                                            Shailendra Saraswat
                                                            Ex D S Ludhiana SNATTA
                                                            09417545999-01612071503

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6a. Broadband modem problem
Posted by: "B.S.SWAMY" bsswamy_73@yahoo.co.in bsswamy_73
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:56 am ((PDT))

hi,
we have Two dslams, one is huawei and other is utstar. old utstar com type 1 modems are not getting adsl (even in gmtd mode also) where as the same modem will work in utstarcom dslam . I am wexed with this modems. this problem not only in bsnl supplied modems and other modems like netpro etc same problem. I have made max permutations and combinations . (in adsl 2plus mode we didn't get adsl).

bsswamy
9422961414

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6b. Re: Broadband modem problem
Posted by: "kalaivani" jkalaivani_j@yahoo.com jkalaivani_j
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:24 am ((PDT))

Hi,
No need to wex. Take it Easy.

Just do the following settings to get the ADSL link up in old UTstar modems.

1. Advanced settings
2. ADSL
3. ADSL mode - ADSL Auto syncup
4. ADSL Type - ANNEX A/I/J/L/M

then save.
Kalaivani J

________________________________
From: B.S.SWAMY <bsswamy_73@yahoo.co.in>
To: ttabsnl <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 5:50:07 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Broadband modem problem

hi,
we have Two dslams, one is huawei and other is utstar. old utstar com type 1
modems are not getting adsl (even in gmtd mode also) where as the same modem
will work in utstarcom dslam . I am wexed with this modems. this problem not
only in bsnl supplied modems and other modems like netpro etc same problem. I
have made max permutations and combinations . (in adsl 2plus mode we didn't
get adsl).

bsswamy
9422961414

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
6c. Re: Broadband modem problem
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:28 am ((PDT))

while setting parameters, see if it works in multi-mode or not. We also have
both type of DSLAMs in 2.2, and multi-mode just works fine.

mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229

________________________________
From: B.S.SWAMY <bsswamy_73@yahoo.co.in>
To: ttabsnl <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 5:50:07 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Broadband modem problem

hi,
we have Two dslams, one is huawei and other is utstar. old utstar com type 1
modems are not getting adsl (even in gmtd mode also) where as the same modem
will work in utstarcom dslam . I am wexed with this modems. this problem not
only in bsnl supplied modems and other modems like netpro etc same problem. I
have made max permutations and combinations . (in adsl 2plus mode we didn't
get adsl).

bsswamy
9422961414

Messages in this topic (3)
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7. Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:55 am ((PDT))

Hi Friends,

i am of the View that we should* do some Restructuring among SNATTA
body*and We should involve more people for brainstorming in CHQ Body.

In my opinion, like BSNLEU in past and recently SNATTA Haryana Circle made 3
Assistant CS likewise *CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General
Secretaries (AGS)*. *We can also have Vice-Presidents *to look after the
entire affairs of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role.
We should choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan,
JK etc. so that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can
send our AGS to represent our view in every meeting with management. We
should try to attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. *We can have more
democratic, liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries.* It will
provide some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with so
many requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some work
to other members and make them responsible towards association. *EXAMPLE*,
we can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any AGS.
likewise we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee or
Wage-Revision committee. *Everybody should have independent charge to look
after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among themselves.*

We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in *Circle Body* to have
their more involvement.

i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I will
present my views on this platform so that people coming there for
participation can take this points to further level. *i want that whoever
attending AIC there should come up with something new and fresh to fight for
our battle.* One can make a long list out of all discussions happened on
this group and present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some
matter before hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join
there because of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.

*I also want to share one of my personal thought (sorry for the delay in
expressing it) with the group that we could have AIC meeting in New Delhi
also so that everyone comes there and we could even show our protest march
for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one
shot. We don't have enough time to show our real concern We have to show our
resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in Practical form. We could generate Media and
public awareness with our protest march as done by JTOs in past. Everybody
should know the pain and dissatisfaction prevailing among Qualified and
Talented TTAs of BSNL. We have to do some type of Drama/Stunt to make them
realize about our genuine demands. Now is the high Time to show some revolt
against BSNL Mgmt like some Indians did against Britsihers in 1857. i shared
the same with Punjab TTAs in Ludhiana meeting recently where i told them
that we should went to Sanchar Bhavan in Full Black Dress to show our
protest. Can't we do this ..?? Is there Anybody who agrees with me.??
*
*These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense only.
anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest aside.* i
will post my more views in coming days.

*Comments, Criticism and Compliments are welcomed as always.*

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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8. Latest Poll Trend for Designation Change till date.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:10 am ((PDT))

Hi friends,

*In last few days we witnessed additions of more than 60 votes in Poll.*

i have attached the Poll file containing the *Designation Change Poll Trend
till date.*

hope we can have some idea what TTAs are thinking on this subject.

Those who have not voted yet pls come forward and vote for your desired
listed designation.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/surveys?id=2308883

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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9. Calm Down my dear friends
Posted by: "pradip panigrahy" pradip_panigrahy@yahoo.co.in pradip_panigrahy
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:06 pm ((PDT))

My dear Busiest ( > Chief min of Punjab ) Mr Pritpal ji

Firstly for any single persons reason how can u just blame the whole ssa and i
would like to question the moderator of this group also how he can just pass and
allow such messages on this group . and secondly u doesnt have that decisive
power to say that the problem of ludhiana ssa is ingenuine , it will be better
if u confine ur self to the problems of ur ssa only .
Secondly we aLL DO AGREE that u had just done fabulous job for BSNL
by ur great commitment to BSNL's service but a humble request man dont just
spoil it by challenging others job . In Ludhiana for this financial year 2010
i.e from april 2010 to till date we managed to provide 19 internet leased line
service not only booked but are maintaining all of them on daily basis .the
total revenue from this ILL only is around 76 lacs per annum . likewise so many
things are there . so please dont .............

Thirdly we do praise Mr Nigam sir a lot . We do also agree with the fact that
when he is in ludhiana ssa he has given this freedom to all tta's to attend
faults of BB by vehicles only .

So Dont hurt a group of people by just saying and fingerpointing the whole ssa
of ludhiana because for ur good knowledge today also we are the number 1 SSA in
acheiving targets ( Be it EVDO/EB Targets ) and anything else and i must say
here that in Ludhiana ( Not only in ludhiana but everywhere else ) each and
every tta are contributing up to his extreme level towards the service of BSNL
.and u can get this confirmed from ur ex GM - Nigam sir also

So please let us stop all these sorts of things and move on to build a great
BSNL / a great SNATTA and like wise a great INDIA

Pradip Kumar Panigrahy
Corporate Cell,BSNL
Punjab Telecom Circle ,Ludhiana
Contact No- 0161-2771977,2099002,9417233777

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10. BSNL can buy equipment from Chinese vendors: Govt
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:20 am ((PDT))

BSNL can buy equipment from Chinese vendors: Govt
NEW DELHI: After a temporary bar due to security concerns, the government
has lifted ban on state-run telecom firm BSNL to procure equipment from
Chinese vendors, Parliament was informed.

"In the interest of national security, the government had directed BSNL in
May, 2009 that resources should not be procured from the Chinese vendors for
deployment in the sensitive regions (especially border states)," Minister of
State for Telecom and IT Sachin Pilot said in a written reply to the Rajya
Sabha.

New guidelines have been issued for procuring telecom equipment from foreign
vendors in consultation with the Ministry of Home Affairs to address
security concerns, Pilot said, adding "accordingly, now BSNL may enter into
agreement with foreign vendors for purchase of equipments/ software/
services."

In its last tender for about five million GSM lines, the PSU had invited
bids only from three European and American vendors and Chinese companies
were totally left out.

BSNL employee unions raised the issue with the Department of Telecom (DoT)
last week. They alleged that ban on BSNL for buying equipment from Chinese
vendors was "discriminatory", as private players were allowed the imports
from China.

Elaborating on the reasons for "discrimination" against BSNL, Pilot said
that participation of foreign companies in strategic sector has bearing on
national security. "BSNL being a public sector undertaking, it network has
to be relied upon in emergency," he added.

Earlier, DoT had barred BSNL from deploying Chinese equipment in sensitive
regions -- Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Sikkim, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh,
Mizoram, Meghalaya, West Bengal, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Jammu and
Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Maharashtra.

Now, with the new guidelines and template of agreement between telecom
service providers and equipment vendors in place, BSNL would be able to
place the orders with any foreign firm including from China.

Questioning the rationale behind the move, Sanchar Nigam Employees
Association had said, "This is absolutely ridiculous for the simple reason
that the move is just intended to jeopardise the growth of BSNL.

"How are the security interests of the country protected while allowing
private operators to install Chinese GSM equipment and restraining BSNL from
doing so?"

BSNL plans to expand network capacity manifold in the coming months in view
of growing demand for mobile telephony, especially in the rural areas.
Allowing BSNL to buy equipment freely from foreign vendors will help the
state-owned firm in taking commercially viable decisions.t
--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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11. Altitude Sickness: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:29 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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12. regarding DSLAM port problem error '678'
Posted by: "chaudhari" bhavesh_ec2006@yahoo.co.in bhavesh_ec2006
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:21 am ((PDT))

hi frds pl help. I have problem in one dslam (1-45) port ok. but after (46-64)error '678'. if their any config command pl tell me. i have tried shutdown & no shutdown command but it will not work.

Bhavesh chaudhari
TTA(C-DOT)
VISNAGAR,MEHSANA
GUJARAT CIRCLE
9429729497

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13a. Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:22 am ((PDT))

To all,

It is to intimate that I Surajpreet Singh T.T.A (outdoor) B.S.N.L, Ropar,
Punjab.

I came from Mohali to Ropar daily by bus covers distance of 55 kms. It is very
difficult to manage complaints depending upon official vehicle because at the
time of complaint the vehicle is busy in managing other factors of Exchange, so
I buy a scooter to look after the complaints as Iâ€™m in outdoor section. I manage
the petrol & maintenance cost of my scooter from my monthly salary only. None of
any official gives any kind of T.A / stipend for filling up of fuel. This is my
toughest job and around half of my pay I spends upon this which includes bus
fair, petrol, maintenance cost.
I donâ€™t feel that this is a kind of govt. job. In govt. sector, a person who
buys a single tip of a pen got fully charges back including the cost of the
distance from where it was buy.
            Today around 11 am I had gone to attend a Broadband(B.B) complaint
at Sukrampur Tapriya opposite Bhata Sahib Chownk on my scooter. The shop lies on
the main G.T road. At the movement I park my scooter near the side of road I
move hardly 5 step from my scooter toward that shop where I went for attending
B.B complaint a speedy Mohindra Belaro of Registration no. HP-12C-4421 came from
Kurali side hit my scooter from back with a powerful impact. I seen that my
scooter hip up in the air around 5 to 8 foots and when it land its spin with 3
to 4 rounds with heavy bumps. I was shocked at the movement. A person nearby
noticed and note the registration No. of that Mohindra Belaro.
            Soon after I called my office and police on 100 number and explained
the situation. The police official took 20 minutes to come on that site, but
nobody came from my office. I alone handle this situation, even the police
official had give me proper courage to come out from this shock. Beside that the
main think which was pinched in my heart was that even 4 hrs. of this accident
no B.S.N.L official visited me to give a moral support.
            Image that if I would have been on the scooter then what would have
happened to me. Thank god Iâ€™m lucky but not my scooter, it was totally damage.
But if that will happen, our department doesnâ€™t matter. Nobody cares about
anybody. This I have seen only in B.S.N.L

                  Surajpreet Singh

                                          T.T.A (Outdoor)

                  Ropar, Punjab

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13b. Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
Posted by: "Suraj Preet" surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com surajpreetsingh
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:27 am ((PDT))

To all,

It is to intimate that I Surajpreet Singh T.T.A (outdoor) B.S.N.L, Ropar,
Punjab.

                  Surajpreet Singh


T.T.A (Outdoor)

                  Ropar, Punjab

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14. Fw: NIB working
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:25 am ((PDT))

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com>
To: s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 11:44:28 AM
Subject: Re: NIB working

Dear Shahnawaz,
It is very nice to get you reply. yesterday also I have uploaded some documents
regarding Motive and Aurora Presto. In fact just check all the mails in last 10
days.
For departmental and official knowledge, visit www.elearning.bsnl.co.in,
Register with your HRMS no and you can do all the online training, give exams
etc. which gets reflected in your records also.
Here, any body gets the vehicle for customers premises visit.

mANAs kUMAr sAHa

________________________________
From: s h <shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in>
To: maansaha@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 12:16:26 PM
Subject: NIB working

Dear Manas
It is very nice that you are working in NIB for 3 years and getting training in
this field. I am,too,working in NIB , but couldn't attend a single training,
even after many times reminder to my SDEs and DEs. They didn't want to send me
for any departmental training related to my work. I do all the jobs what you
mentioned except to visit the customer's premises. As I refused to do it without
vehicle and proper training.
Still I am very much interested in getting updated in this field. I will be
glad if you let me know the latest technology/ softaware/any news.

regards

Shahnawaz Akhtar
CS SNATTA, Bihar Cirlce
9431094583

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15. BSNL can buy equipment from Chinese vendors
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:29 am ((PDT))

After a temporary bar due to security concerns, the government has lifted ban on state-run telecom firm BSNL to procure equipment from Chinese vendors, Parliament was informed today.
"In the interest of national security, the government had directed BSNL in May, 2009 that resources should not be procured from the Chinese vendors for deployment in the sensitive regions (especially border states)," Minister of State for Telecom and IT Sachin Pilot said in a written reply to the Rajya Sabha.
New guidelines have been issued for procuring telecom equipment from foreign vendors in consultation with the Ministry of Home Affairs to address security concerns, Pilot said, adding "accordingly, now BSNL may enter into agreement with foreign vendors for purchase of equipmentâ€™s/ software/ services."
In its last tender for about five million GSM lines, the PSU had invited bids only from three European and American vendors and Chinese companies were totally left out.
BSNL employee unions raised the issue with the Department of Telecom (DoT) last week. They alleged that ban on BSNL for buying equipment from Chinese vendors was "discriminatory", as private players were allowed the imports from China.
Elaborating on the reasons for "discrimination" against BSNL, Pilot said that participation of foreign companies in strategic sector has bearing on national security.
"BSNL being a public sector undertaking, it network has to be relied upon in emergency," he added.
Earlier, DoT had barred BSNL from deploying Chinese equipment in sensitive regions -- Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Sikkim, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, Meghalaya, West Bengal, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Maharashtra.
Now, with the new guidelines and template of agreement between telecom service providers and equipment vendors in place, BSNL would be able to place the orders with any foreign firm including from China.
Questioning the rationale behind the move, Sanchar Nigam Employees Association had said, "This is absolutely ridiculous for the simple reason that the move is just intended to jeopardise the growth of BSNL.
"How are the security interests of the country protected while allowing private operators to install Chinese GSM equipment and restraining BSNL from doing so?"
BSNL plans to expand network capacity manifold in the coming months in view of growing demand for mobile telephony, especially in the rural areas. Allowing BSNL to buy equipment freely from foreign vendors will help the state-owned firm in taking commercially viable decisions.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg) Amritsar

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16. BSNL to launch 'Mobile Money Transfer' service soon
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:29 am ((PDT))

The state-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) will soon launch a new service called 'Mobile Money Transfer' to provide banking facilities to its customers at its doorstep, a BSNL official said today.
Under the proposed service, the customers will be able to pay their bills on either mobile or landline phones by simply making a call to their banks to transfer money for payment of bills, the BSNL's (Bihar Circle) General Manager Vijay Kumar told reporters here.
The BSNL has tied up with the State Bank of India (SBI) for the implementation of the proposed money transfer scheme, he said.
Referring to the congestion on the BSNL network in Kishanganj district, Kumar said that it has been proposed to set up 10 new BTS in the district to ease off the problem.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg) Amritsar

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17. BSNL to restructure business to make it profitable
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:31 am ((PDT))

The state owned telecom firm has undertaken an exercise of organisational restructuring with the help of Boston Consulting Group (BCG), a management consulting firm.
The transformational exercise has been named Project Shikhar and will attempt to arrest the company's financial decline, and restructure the business to make it profitable.
As part of this exercise, BSNLâ€™s organisational structure has also being redesigned along different business verticals to provide end to end focus on key growth segments and to clearly define accountability for different businesses and functions at all levels of the organisation, Sachin Pilot, Minister of State for Communications and Information Technology, said in a written reply to the Rajya Sabha.
A separate vertical has been created to focus on growth in mobile, broadband and enterprise segments.
BSNL had earlier reported a net loss of over Rs 1,800 crore during 2009-2010. This was the first-ever loss registered by the public sector unit since its inception in October 2000.
Sachin Pilot, in his reply, added that the loss â€œis mainly on account of reduction in revenue and increase in expenditure. The reduction in BSNL revenue is mainly because of decline in revenue from wire lines due to churning of fixed line subscribers in view of preference to mobile telephony and fall in ARPU (average revenue per user). Though there is a net increase in number of wireless connections, yet revenue decreased mainly due to reduction in tariff by BSNL in the competitive market.â€
The main reason for increase in expenditure was attributed to the increase in staff expenditure, which alone has caused an additional expenditure of Rs 2,900 crore over the previous year.
Also, increase in depreciation is due to amortisation of one time spectrum fee for 3G and (broadband wireless access) BWA spectrum.

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