Topics in this digest:
1. Regarding Dynamic lock
From: Hemant Sharma
2a. Re: regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with fl
From: ashish kalani
2b. Re: regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with fl
From: ravi karra
3. Fw: Fwd: Survey on Mobile Handset Preferences
From: Harish Kumar Janjua
4.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: V.K.Anand
4.2. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: abhilash v
5a. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment
From: Ashok.K.Pandey
5b. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment
From: dharmendra sharma
5c. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
6a. Re: regarding promotion to JTO.
From: abhilash v
6b. service quarter
From: chandan101204@indiatimes.com
7a. Re: REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
From: Harmesh Lal
7b. Re: REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY
8. crises in punjab
From: sanjay gupta
9. bak file
From: bally
10a. Re: URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
From: lalit singh
10b. Re: URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY
11. Union or Association for AIC Goa
From: Gaurav Singh
12a. Fw: [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
From: shahulhameed noorulameen
12b. Re: Fw: [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
13a. IMPORTANT
From: ramesh kannan
14. BSNL goes for tech tie up to revive its manufacturing units
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
15. Award of Departmental scholarship for Technical / Non-Technical educ
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
16. Grant of Awards to outstanding school going children for the year 20
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
Messages
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1. Regarding Dynamic lock
Posted by: "Hemant Sharma" heman_india12@yahoo.co.in heman_india12
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:56 am ((PDT))
Hi , is it possible to use dynamic lock in LMT ?
Please tell me.
regards,
Hemant Sharma(BSNL)
07543209444
Ashoknagar(MP)
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2a. Re: regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with fl
Posted by: "ashish kalani" ashish_kavi@yahoo.co.in ashish_kavi
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:59 am ((PDT))
Please visit bsnleuchq website circular was recently(in aug) flashed on websit
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, l jha <lakshmeshwarjha@gmail.com> wrote:
From: l jha <lakshmeshwarjha@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with flight
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 24 August, 2010, 3:21 PM
Hi Friends,
Can any one provide me the latest circular regarding visit of J&k with flight as per rcommendation for central govt emloyee.
L JHA
TTA, CCN, HZB, JKD
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2b. Re: regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with fl
Posted by: "ravi karra" kravi_bsnl@yahoo.co.in kravi_bsnl
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:42 pm ((PDT))
Dear ashisk
please find the attachment of LTC to visit J&K
--- On Wed, 25/8/10, ashish kalani <ashish_kavi@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: ashish kalani <ashish_kavi@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with flight
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 12:27 PM
Please visit bsnleuchq website circular was recently(in aug) flashed on websit
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, l jha <lakshmeshwarjha@gmail.com> wrote:
From: l jha <lakshmeshwarjha@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL regrding recent LTC rule/ cicular from BSNL to visit J&K with flight
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 24 August, 2010, 3:21 PM
Hi Friends,
Can any one provide me the latest circular regarding visit of J&k with flight as per rcommendation for central govt emloyee.
L JHA
TTA, CCN, HZB, JKD
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1034280138/item/list
CCS%20(LTC)%20Rules.pdf
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3. Fw: Fwd: Survey on Mobile Handset Preferences
Posted by: "Harish Kumar Janjua" h_k_janjua@yahoo.co.in h_k_janjua
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:02 am ((PDT))
HARISH KUMAR
T.T.A. [Broadband]
BSNL,Faridabad
Haryana
cell: 9868842548
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Harish Kumar <hkjanjua1980@gmail.com>
To: h_k_janjua@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Wed, 25 August, 2010 12:52:37 PM
Subject: Fwd: Survey on Mobile Handset Preferences
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kuldeep Janjua <kuldeepjanjua@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Subject: Survey on Mobile Handset Preferences
To: "ankush. makkar" <ankush.makkar@gmail.com>, ashish
<gupta.ashish@gmail.com>, goutam <goutam@teaminfinity.info>, Harish
Kumar <hkjanjua1980@gmail.com>, "jerath.rohit"
<jerath.rohit@gmail.com>, kuldeep.kumar@bhartitelesoft.com,
kuldeepjanjua@gmail.com, kumar anurag <anurag_cancer@rediffmail.com>,
kumarkuldeep82@yahoo.co.uk, manoj <manojprasad.in@gmail.com>, Mukesh
Bansiwal <mukesh.bansiwal@gmail.com>, mukesh_bansiwal@yahoo.com,
neha_nigam2002 <neha_nigam2002@yahoo.com>, playocean@yahoo.co.in,
priyatos@cdotd.ernet.in, vedpal daksh <vedonline@gmail.com>
Hi,
I am a student at IIM-Lucknow. I am conducting a study for finding the
mobile handset preferences. I request you to please fill this survey
and help me conducting the research. I will be highly grateful to you.
I sincerely appreciate your time and effort to fill this survey.
Following is the link:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDd1UlgxbjQzVXFTcDN2QUhQaXQxR3c6MQ
Thanks and Regards,
Kuldeep Kumar
kuldeep.kumar@iiml.org
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4.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "V.K.Anand" vkanand810@yahoo.com vkanand810
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:06 am ((PDT))
Hi Dhiraj,
I am trying to call but could not manage to reach you. Sometimes your phone is
busy and sometime there is no responce.
If you don't mind , kindly call me as per your ease on 09431103335.
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , JKD
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From: dhiraj chaudhary <dc_bsnlfbd@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 6:01:37 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Dear V K Anand
It appears that you do not have the better understaning of this subject.
Sorry to say but your suggestions are misleaden to others.
However I know that your intentions are not so.
It is good to see that at least you have tried your level best.
I requst you to please refrain yourself to suggest others.
Most probably we will discuss it with all our members over this matter in our
forthcoming AIC at GOA. Please come there, otherwise call me at 09412777798.
Pl treat it friendly.
Yours
Dhiraj Chaudhary
EX-GS SNATTA
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From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 11:56:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am
sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important
agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it
possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is
remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till
now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough
weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of
new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some
thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that
figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be
very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top
posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince
the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a
win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs
.BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered
against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit
list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union
(NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these
left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before
regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.Let
us first see who stake holders are:
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are
waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list.
Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG
163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9 3The proposed solution :
* OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
* We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of
following demands.
* Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
* BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now
only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if
RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the
vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample
vacancies will be unfilled.
* Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down
eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as
2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
* LICE should be conducted regularly.
* Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed
AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like
we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain
7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain
support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and
BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require
a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve
this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to
explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I
hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335 .DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in
vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch
in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might
slightly differ with other circles.1. Management: Needs man power, as per one
information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This
figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new
projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
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4.2. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:06 am ((PDT))
Dear Anand,
It is sure that your intention is a good one only - win win situation for all ! It seems good. But I don't know what is the need for such a deep "thought and developed ideas" for this very first & easy solution! And do you think that our leaders are not up to the minimum standard to think about this simple solution? Do you remember that we first demanded one time up gradation for all the remaining officiating JTOs? That means we were never against our seniors and still not. Then why we filed petition? Chandan and Dhiraj had answered it thousand times in the past.
I would like to quote some of your points:-
You wrote vacancies were filled according to merit list and low ranked candidates left out. No dear. It was a screening test and vacancies were filled as per the seniority only.
The left out qualified TTAs(later became officiating JTOs) were around 6500. And the present internal vacancies are not around 9200 as you said. The over all vacancies are around 16000. We are eligible for 35% of it. That is around less than 6000 only(I will give you exact figures later). If the above said vacancies were given back to the outside quota due to illegal diversion then there won't be any internal quota to you for the internal exam. Now you have some internal quota remains just because the illegal diversion got stopped by our leaders. Then one may refer about super numerary. When 3500 supernumerary posts were declared then itself Dhiraj explained the danger in it. That is, these supernumery would stand in papers only and in practical effect it will fetch our internal vacancies. Your SSA administration would count them as JTOs only when vacancies are counted. If there is a JTO then one vacancy is not there and so on. It proved
right through some RTI figures.
Who said management need to promot us as JTOs for the new projects? It is your imagination only. They are not at all hurry and not bothered about these things.
Your very first solution - Officiating JTOs lift the CAT case and we will lift contempt case. Then my question is "who will lift other cases?" The Sr. TOAs filed a case to conduct the exam with 10 year condition. Do you know about it? Who will lift this one and other like minded cases?
Dear friend; it is not only the officiating JTOs who tries to stop the exam. Many unions are trying for it in the under ground. If we lift the case today then left out TTAs, Sr TOAs, TM promoted TTAs etc would come forward to stop the exam with some other hidden agenda. Do you know it was AIGETOA who first filed a petition against diversion?
When we first demanded the service reduction, the then DIRHRD told us that diversion of 500 each of the 6500 will last long upto 2013. Until then management can't think of an internal exam. Still his question - answers with Vikas is available in our website.
What happens after 2013? Internal vacancies would have given back to outside quota. All the outside vacancies upto 2013 plus re-diverted vacancies have to be filled up through the outside exams. How long it will take to conduct many outside exams and trainings? Now we are watching outside exams and trainings for the vacancies upto 1999(as per management's affidavit before a court, all the outside exams conducted after 2001 were for the vacancies counted before the formation of BSNL!). After 2013, we may watch outside exams upto the vacancies of 2013 or so. After clearing all those outside exams you will work and retire as TTA itself because the posts are calculated mainly as per the number of land line connections(not mainly on installations as you said) and when management re-asses the number of posts then there won't be anything due to land line reduction. Now a days land line connections are decreasing fast. What would be the fate after 5
or 10 years? On the top of it, as per BCG's recommendations regarding new staff norms, the vacancies are two or three hundred only.(presently sanctiond posts are 36,000+ , existing JTOs are 20,000+ , So vacancies are 16000+ .But as per BCG, only 21,000+ posts are enough. Is it sufficiant for you?)
You should have read "an insight to diversion game" by CC of Maharashtra, Mr.Nitin Pohare.
Dear friend! Don't think that our leaders are school boys. Don't try to pull us back two steps when our leaders try to push us one step forward.
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
NB: The year 2013 is mentioned here because diversion of 500 each per year for around 6500 people started in 2013. But a number of them would retire before 2013.
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-- On Thu, 19/8/10, V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 11:53 AM
Dear Amit ,
Thanks for the mail . Nice to see your ideas .
1.Now Initially we all supported the diversion case ... and I am still not saying it is useless. Infact it is this case which has given us power to negotiate ... If management does not comply with these steps we can always go back to court. Lifting of court case might be post step of LICE implementation.
2. Regarding vacancies : It is calculated based on installed capacity of dells. So with every installation of switch, vacancies get created. Since the sector is growing, It can be assumed that vacancies will keep on coming. However it will definitely depend on financial health of BSNL. In any case BSNL will always need manpower.
Secondaly, as per Dir HRD, every year 18000 people are retiring, They have JTOs also ,every year jtos are getting promotion there by again creating vacancies... 50% of all of these vacancies goes to internal quota.
Now even if majority of TTAs are promoted ... there will be regular vacancies ... so this process must start. The huge vacancy right now is a result of accumulation since 2001 to 2009.
One very important thing : If we go by the present RR DR TTAs do not have any right for the vacancies of 2008 and before. SO even if stay is vacated and exams are conducted. some one will definitely go to court to bar us from appering against vacancies from 2000-2008 or 2009. (Take ref. from SDE LICE )
These court cases have not born any fruits till now but has given us power of negotiation . We can use it wisely and who knows it might click and gain 7000 + vacancies for us which is not going to come to us any way ....?
have a regirous and break free discussion on this topic ... any short of criticisiom/suggesation/comments are welcomed.
wishing you all a great carrer in BSNL...
your friend
V.K.Anand
Still :TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
From: amit sharma <a1amit2005@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:50:30 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Hi..
Good to see your views and efforts for the cadre...
One thing i want to ask..
if there will be no or very less external vacancy of jto for next 5 to 7 years or for any other reason there will be no recruitment for some more years in DRJTO cader .. than from where the internal post will be created.. who will gurantee that post will be created for internal candidates and our newly recruited TTA will get that.. AT that time Mg-mt. will say .. there is no vacancy left for internal competition..
i just have a doubt on this ...
it seems to me that the situation resembles what actually happening in Kashmir... after 1947 some one came up with the idea NOW, to give away KASHMIR... after sacrificing many soilders/paramiltary personnel s.. so that the rest of the country remain in peace.. but there are many problem in our country likewise CHINA for Arunachal Pardesh and LINE OF ACTUAL CONTROL ....
Let Kashmir go..(which is already half due to POK) but who will guarantee about China for Arunachal and LOAC..((((((((( don't take my comments otherwise..Please.. )))))))))
let WE sacrifice some no. for diversion and after that if we still didn't ABLE to get any thing.. you can never know .. this is BSNL..
I don't have any doubts on your intentions Mr. Anand but i have on our Mgmt..
Also, i don't know exactly the technicality of the possibilities... .Mr.Dhiraj/ Mr Abhilash/Mr.Verma/Mr. Vikas/Mr.Bhandhan and many more our prestigious members/CHQ might be having some expert comment on this...
Regards,
Amit
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:26 PM
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
　
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :
OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.
Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.
Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
LICE should be conducted regularly.
Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
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5a. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment
Posted by: "Ashok.K.Pandey" akpforms@yahoo.co.uk akpforms
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:09 am ((PDT))
don't worry nityanand u will be eligible for promotional examination with your old ssa service included not EXCLUDED. just carry on don't be confused
Er. Ashok Kumar Pandey
TTA , BSNL , Karauli(Raj.)
07464-215999,9461836600
--- On Wed, 25/8/10, NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment]
To: "rajesh rathore" <rajeshrathore03@yahoo.co.in>, "g.s. rajawat" <gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in>, "TTAGROUPS GROUP" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 11:10
[Attachment(s) from NITYANAND AGRAWAL included below]
pls give me meaning of attached rule according to para-8,
what is meaning of Examination based promotion linked with seniority.and next point clarification no. (e).
give me detailed as soon as possible.
Nityanand Agrawal
TTA Sawai Madhopur (Raj)
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5b. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment
Posted by: "dharmendra sharma" dks_bsnl@yahoo.com dks_bsnl
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:26 pm ((PDT))
hi dear,
Dharmendra from mount-abu. ur batchmate. I also enquired about the same clause of point-8 from recruitment section jaipur. I met shri sharmaji, SDE in that section he told me that if i transfered from one SSA to other ssa, than my entire service of previous SSA will not be count in the Departmental competition exam for promotion from TTA to JTO. That's why i stopped myself to do so. If u r thinking to the same than first Enquire all points and than proceed. Also inform me for the same as soon as possible.
Dharmendra Sharma
TTA, Mount-Abu
02974-203000
--- On Wed, 25/8/10, NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1 Attachment]
To: "rajesh rathore" <rajeshrathore03@yahoo.co.in>, "g.s. rajawat" <gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in>, "TTAGROUPS GROUP" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 11:10 AM
[Attachment(s) from NITYANAND AGRAWAL included below]
pls give me meaning of attached rule according to para-8,
what is meaning of Examination based promotion linked with seniority.and next point clarification no. (e).
give me detailed as soon as possible.
Nityanand Agrawal
TTA Sawai Madhopur (Raj)
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5c. Re: Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:54 pm ((PDT))
hi dear,
pls clarify again. as per my good knowledge i talked to Chandan for this and
he said that transfer wont effect length of service which is essential for
LICE exam.
i am also a transferee from Haryana to Punjab.
bandhan
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:13 PM, dharmendra sharma <dks_bsnl@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> hi dear,
> Dharmendra from mount-abu. ur batchmate. I also enquired about the same
> clause of point-8 from recruitment section jaipur. I met shri sharmaji, SDE
> in that section he told me that if i transfered from one SSA to other ssa,
> than my entire service of previous SSA will not be count in the Departmental
> competition exam for promotion from TTA to JTO. That's why i stopped myself
> to do so. If u r thinking to the same than first Enquire all points and than
> proceed. Also inform me for the same as soon as possible.
>
> Dharmendra Sharma
> TTA, Mount-Abu
> 02974-203000
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 25/8/10, NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in>* wrote:
>
>
> From: NITYANAND AGRAWAL <nityabsnl@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: TTABSNL Fw: about intra/inter ssa tranfer according rule-8 [1
> Attachment]
> To: "rajesh rathore" <rajeshrathore03@yahoo.co.in>, "g.s. rajawat" <
> gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in>, "TTAGROUPS GROUP" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 11:10 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> pls give me meaning of attached rule according to para-8,
> what is meaning of Examination based promotion linked with seniority.and
> next point clarification no. (e).
> give me detailed as soon as possible.
> Nityanand Agrawal
> TTA Sawai Madhopur (Raj)
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6a. Re: regarding promotion to JTO.
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:09 am ((PDT))
Dear Arun,
You have written that "so finally we decided that all of us go with NFTE to help me". Who is this 'we'? Do you think that all the DRTTAs are fools so that if anybody use a word 'we' then they think that it is all of theirs decision? Too silly man! Come to AIC and take a decision.
Don't say that all are selfish and thinking of themselves only. It is absolutely right in your case and in many cases but not for every one. OK? You think that still you are a child. When a child open its mouth somebody may feed it. GS, NFTE assured you! In dream? What assurance? Even Prime minister can't do anything if there is some court stay. OK, Let them feed you exam alone. We had a signed assurance from EU. What happened to that assurance? BSNLEU didn't keep their promise. That doesn't mean NFTE or FNTO will do everything for us. All the unions want us as their members for vote and subscription. But in return they will give nothing. As long as we are not strengthened by ourselves nobody can save us.
Dear moderator, Criticisms are welcome. But don't approve any mail against SNATTA since this platform is meant for strengthening SNATTA.
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Mon, 23/8/10, arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL regarding promotion to JTO.
To: "TTA GROUP" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "snatta chq" <snattachq@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 2:44 PM
After suffering since eight years no SNATTA or BSNLEU help us and fight for us all are thinking only yourself ,some thinking for completing your seven year service to appear in examination,some thinking to compleate your five year of service and then they change the RR.some wants if we getting B.E degree then why not my post upgraded.all are thinking yourself.so finally we decided that all of us go with NFTE to help me < GS NFTE assured us . let us try to go with NFTE if BSNLEU no do any more for us.
ARUN KUMAR SINGH
TTA ( Transmission)
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6b. service quarter
Posted by: "chandan101204@indiatimes.com" chandan101204@indiatimes.com chandrakesh1
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:02 am ((PDT))
dear friends
i have joint bsnl in sep 2008. since then i am trying to get service quarter. but there is no any cercular which say that which type of quarter is intitled for DRTTA. some says it is type two which have one room one hall and kitchen. but here some gets type two which has got only one room and kitchen.
can anyone say that what is actual permitted type and discription of type one type quarters.
is it counted by area???? some where type one is 1BHK some where is type one 1BK.
pls clearify.
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7a. Re: REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Posted by: "Harmesh Lal" harmeshduggal@yahoo.com harmeshduggal
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:10 am ((PDT))
sir
i am harmesh lal tta of 2008 batch i just joined this group i have attended cec at ludhiana along with new ttas we r informed to come at 2.00 pm at bharat ngr exchange
when we reached there conference was already over ,the representive present there asked us what's ur problem ,firstly we r amazed that the meeting was already over moreover everybody knows we r facing pay anamoly , i told them about pay anomoly and asked how snatta help us , they replied u have to solve ur problem own ur own and ,u have to go to court ,In court u will get the justice campared to union mr tajinder & inderpreet r the persons present there ,not getting any encouraging , helpful hand from their side , message was clear solve ur problem own ur own ,it seems meeting was complete eye wash
i appeal to new ttas to come forward ,many new tta r active on this issue ,already met the advocate i myself went to chandigarh twice .WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT AND WILL GET IT
--- On Tue, 8/24/10, RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com> wrote:
From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 8:03 AM
MR. BALWINDER SINGH JI !
I THINK THERE IS SOME SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH YOU BOTH. BOTH OF YOU SHOULD SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND SOLVE THE ISSUE FOR THE SAKE OF YOURSELF AND THE GROUP AS A WHOLE. IF YOU BOTH DON'T HAVE GUTS TO FACE EACHOTHER TO SOLVE THE ISSUE THEN I AM SURE OF BOTH OF YOU THINKING YOURSELVES GTREATER THAN THE GROUP, WHICH CAN NEVER BE TRUE.
BOTH OF YOU MUST REFRAIN YOURSELVES FROM MUDSLINGING. BY DOING SO, YOU WILL WASTE YOUR ENERGY IN NON PRODUCTIVE ACTIVITIES. PL THINK BEYOND SELF AT LEAST WHEN YOU ARE IN GROUP.
YOU ARE MEMBERS OF SAME GROUP. HAVE BROTHERHOOD. TAKE HELP OF SOME COMMON FRIEND OF YOURS AND SOLVE THE ISSUE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. ALTHOUGH IT'S BETTER TO LATE THAN NEVER.
HOPING OF SOME POSITIVE AND ENCOURAGING SOLUTION FROM BOTH OF MY WELL EDUCATED, WELL MANNERED, SPECIAL FRIENDS.
THE GROUP NEEDS YOU BOTH, SO PL USE POSITIVE ENERGY FORV BETTERMENT OF THE GROUP. WE REALLY NEED YOU IN OUR GROUP, SO PLEASE REPEAT PLEASE DON'T LET EVILS WIN OVER YOU.
THANKING YOU BOTH AND HOPING TO TO SEE YOU BOTH AS BEST FRIENDS OF EACHOTHER IN GOA.
YOUR'S
RK UPADHYAY
TTA (MKTG)
MATHURA
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in> wrote:
Dear friends
i expect this kind of words from sick thinking person gola singh for me & all my SSA TTAs who demand for circle conference in DEC meeting at jallandhar to maintain faith & unity in our TTAs. Neither CS Punjab nor any other from circle body reply to our SSA queries . moreover CS Punjab or mr gola singh (harjinder singh) did respond to my request to arrange meeting in their own SSA Ludhiana to discuss the issues & maintain unity,either they have no responsibility or guts. I think gola singh has gone mentally disturb after licking sole of trade union leaders to protect him from chargesheet. What we can expect from this kind of person who had put our SNATTA to shame .Its my humble request to CHQ & my all dear driends to interfere to protect our SNATTA from such persons..
Balwinder singh
District president
SNATTA Jallandhar
Re: TTABSNL TRIANGLE STORY CREATED BY THREE IDIOTS (SUDESH , BALWINDER & SHAILENDER.
Tuesday, 24 August, 2010 5:07 AM
From:
"RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>Add sender to Contacts
MAY I REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY HAVE A CONTROL OVER WORDS. LET'S DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY BY THE SITUATION.
THANKS.
RK UPADHYAY
TTA (MKTG)
MATHURA
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Friends ,
I want to share with you a story created about CEC-PUNJAB by OUR THREE BROTHERS , you can call them due to their MAD ACT as THREE IDIOTS.My brothers as from all mails on yahoo groups , one can easly conclude that---
1. Our first brother ( Idiot) , Sudesh who started whole MAD ACT about CEC -PUNJAB.As i confirmed from circle body members , sudesh was duly invited but he never attended CEC.At last all responsible members from his ssa , explained ALL ABOUT SUDESH on yahoo group.Now he has no moral right to PUT ANYTHING ON GROUP. I request to chq please sacked him from YAHOO GROUP ATLEAST.
2. Our second brother Shailender ( idiot) , as i am belong to ssa ludhiana & i know him very well. As known to all that he has given RESIGN FROM DS-LUDHIANA by his own MAD ACT ( EGO ) .Now he suddenly become DS-LUDHIANA by his own again by his mad act . Now he is talking about all time , day & night about democracy in snatta.
3. Our third Brother (Balwinder ) , i know him through the mail on group , he is crying on group about CEC-PUNJAB & Favouring sudesh & shailender.
These three brothers ( idiots ) , if they have problem with CEC then why they are SPOILING THE WHOLE SNATTA-PUNJAB on following lines --
1. the situation created by wage loss to new ttas & THESE BROTHERS TRYING TO EXPLOIT THE SITUATION.
2. New ttas & Old ttas. etc. etc. etc...
Harjinder pal singh ,
ssa-punjab.
TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Monday, 23 August, 2010 7:00 PM
From:
"Balwinder Mehmi" <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>Add sender to Contacts
To:
"snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc:
circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com, "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com>, "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com>, "gola singh" <gola.singh@yahoo.com>, "surinder mittal" <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>, "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>... more
you kind of people can never understand the feelings of our dear TTAs ,The demand of CEC was of my SSA in DEC meeting not my alone.moreover tell me who is responsible for
1. wage loss
2. not designation change
my answer & all knows only designation change comitte member & wage revision comitte member only our circle secretary punjab (who did not show any knowledge & guts to get any thing done for our dear TTAs instead of blaming others ). So why you do not cry in front of him for all these.
My dear friend we do not want to repeat story by again giving responsibility to that uncapable leader
For wage loss to TTAs we arranged DEC meeting at jallandhar & put agenda to DS BSNLEU who forward de demands of TTAs to CS & GS of BSNLEU ,we also forward the agenda to our CS.
We again raise the demand to give five increments to TTAs affected by wage revision in DEC meeting of BSNLEU & again remind the demands to CS & GS BSNLEU on mobile by me & DS BSNLEU
Now the quetion is
1. have you or CS Punjab put wage loss agenda to CHQ or CS BSNLEU before it was pick-up by CHQ itself.
2. have your goodself arranged any meeting in your SSA for demands of our dear TTAs.
3. is there any district body in your SSA if not then why & where are your activities.
Moreover instead of asking any quetion to me first just reply my SSA five queries.
Instead to keep blaming continously on yahoo group it will be better you arrange meeting in your SSA to discuss all these issues to maitain unity of our SNATTA
Balwinder singh
District president
SNATTA Jallandhar
Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Monday, 23 August, 2010 12:05 PM
From:
"Gola Singh" <gola.singh@yahoo.com>View contact details
Balwinder ji ,
Why are you crying on yahoo group about CEC , please it is better if you CRY for following--
1. Wage loss to new ttas.
2. JTO-INTERNAL EXAM.
3. Designation Chnage.
Above are our long pending demand , but you are crying for CEC ONLY , Please start crying for above issues NOW. Above issues are important than CEC ,Punjab.Please agree with request of your younger brother.
Harjinder Pal Singh,
ssa-ludhiana.
Dear jujhar singh
my dear friend if in your SSA any trade union leaders are threating our dear TTAs, The SSA District body can increase its activities by arranging meeting at SSA level to protect our dear TTAs from any harm by management or trade union . moreover your SSA can complain to our circle body & chq SNATTA (If u have complain to cs or cc punjab, the steps they taken are u satisfied with them)
I assure u we will stand by u against any injustice with our dear TTAs.
My dear i want to clear that i do not follows mr sudesh kumar ,the demand to conduct circle conference is of my SSA in DEC meeting. We take any decision in democrative way in DEC meeting & always stands with truth.
my dear our circle leaders are not ready to discuss issue regarding CEC Punjab, if they had responsibility or sense to maitain unity they had arranged meeting to discuss the issue & stop increasing conflict between TTAs ,moreover all new TTAs say that if they had any post in SNATTA leadership they did not have pay anomally , so its our responsibility to give them proper representation to maintain our SNATTA unity
For ur kind information we had already declare to give the post of DP to new TTA in our SSA in democrative way. so my dear friends try to understand our feelings to maintain unity of SNATTA
Its out of understandig that TTAs who are being harrassed by management or any trade union instead of having district body & circle body are opposing to conduct circle conference in democrative way to maintain faith in all dear TTAs & discuss all issues like yours in detail at circle level.
Balwinder singh
District president
SNATTA Jallandhar
Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Sunday, 22 August, 2010 2:20 AM
From:
"jujhar Singh" <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>View contact details
Mr Balwinder
You donot know the matter in Amritsar .what ever Sudesh have tell you don't repeated it .even not one people agree with Sudesh Kumar. You know that why a single person of SNATTA member didn’t attend the CEC meeting last tow week ago, because BNSLEU threading the SNATTA member in different way and Sudesh Kumar with them. if you have some proble with CEC you talk them and put question in meeting don't write in yahoogroup it will not faver in SNATTA
.So please stop questioning
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL REGARDING CECPUNJAB
To: circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Cc: "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com>, "snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>, "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com>, "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>, "surajpreet singh" <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 11:18 PM
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Dear circle body punjab (CS &CC )
Why you have not reply to our SSA quries regading cec punjab (have you not any answer). What we shoud think about you
If you have any answer then also reply who is responsible for injustice with mr surajpreet singh & all other TTAs attending broadband complaints. who is responsible for passing TA bill proposal in RCM meeting which is not benifial to TTAs. will you blame to our chq for TA bill as you have done in case of wage revision. Must reply before its too much late.
TTABSNL REGARDING CWC PUNJAB
Saturday, 14 August, 2010 10:46 AM
From:
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Cc:
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DEAR CIRCLE BODY PUNJAB & ALL DEAR FRINDS
THERE ARE SOME QUETIONS RELATED TO CWC MEETING OF PUNJAB CIRCLE HELD ON DATED 08-08-2010 KINDLY REPLY:-
1. WHY NOT CWC MEETING NOTICE LOADED ON SNATTA.ORG OR YAHOO GROUPS AS PER RESOLUTION OF CWC HAS BEEN LOADED
2. AS THE LAST DATE OF SENDING LIST OF DELEGATES FOR AIC AT GOA & COLLECTION OF RS-100 FUND FOR COURT CASES WAS 31-07-2010
WHY NOT CWC MEETING HOLD BEFORE 31-07-2010
3. FUND COLLECTION OF RS-500 EACH BY ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA PUNJAB. IT HAS COME TO KNOW BY RELIABLE RESOURCES (MR JASVIR KUMAR JASSAL IN DEC MEETING OF JALLANDHAR) THAT THIS FUND ALSO INCLUDES FUND FOR CIRCLE CONFERENCE OF PUNJAB CIRCLE
WHY NOT MENTION ABOUT CIRCLE CONFERENCE IN RESOLUTION PASSED BY CWC
4. IT HAS COME TO KNOW THAT TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND MEETING, WHY
IS THEY ARE NOT MEMBER OF SNATTA
5. WHY NOT GIVEN ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 IN CIRCLE BODY OF PUNJAB IN CWC.
ALONG WITH REPLY TO ABOVE MENTION QUETIONS ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED CWC MEETING ON 08-08-2010 WITH THE POST THEY HOLD IN CIRCLE BODY OR SSA BODY
BALWINDER SINGH
DISTRICT PRESIDENT
SNATTA JALLANDHAR
PUNJAB
TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Friday, 13 August, 2010 2:50 PM
From:
"atul kumar" <atulkumar014@gmail.com>View contact details
JALANDHAR SSA IS NOT SATISFIED WITH CEC PUNJAB DECISIONS
A District Body meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar SSA took place at LCM Room JL on dt
12-08-2010. In this meeting the resolution passed by CEC were discussed in detail. The
meeting was presided by Sh Balwinder Singh, President. Sh Jasveer Jassal,vice Circle
President was also present. Following points were raised unanimously-
1. Circle conference should immediately be organized by the circle body in order to keep
the faith of all its member.
2. The whole Jalandhar District Body is not satisfied with the decision of continuing the
existing CEC as no District Body member was present in Ludhiana during the process
due to formal intimation by the Circle Body.
3. The members of Jalandhar are not ready to raise any fund, any financial contribution
without Circle Conference.
Atul Kumar
Distt Secretary
SSA - Jalandhar
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7b. Re: REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Posted by: "RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" ttamktgmtr@gmail.com raj.ku73
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:48 pm ((PDT))
*MR. HARMESH LAL JI !*
*PL DON'T GET DISHURTENED BY ONE INCIDENT. PL DON'T ANALIZE THE INCIDENT IN
ISOLATION. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WHICH HAS NOT COME TO OUR KNOWLEDGE YET.
ALL THESE PROBLEMS WERE FACED BY OUR SENIOR TTAs PRIOR TO FORMATION OF
SNATTA. BUT FACING SUCH PROBLEM AT PRESENT IS UNEXPECTED. ANY WAY BYGONE IS
BYGONE. LET'S UNITE OURSELVES AND FIGHT AGAINST THE INJUSTICE. I AM SURE YOU
WILL FIGHT YOUR LEVEL BEST FOR JUSTICE THAT ALSO BEING UNITED WITH YOUR
FRIENDS.*
*MY DEAR!*
*IT IS BITTER TRUTH THAT ALL THE ASSOCIATIONS AND UNIONS HAVE COMMITED A
MISTAKE BY ACCEPTING WAGE REVISION ORDERS OR BY SIGNING THE AGREEMENT AND
SNATTA IS NO EXCEPTION TO IT. NOW THERE IS NO USE OF BLAMING ANYBODY IN THIS
REGARD. LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SAVE THE FACE OR TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE.
THEY ARE READY FOR THE SAME, IT IS EVIDENT AS THEY HAVE TAKEN THE ISSUE
SERIOUSLY. NOW IT'S THE TIME TO GET UNITED AND FIGHT THE ISSUE AS UNITED.
NOW WE CANN'T AFFORD TO WASTE OUR TIME IN BLAMING EACHOTHER. AT THE SAME
TIME WE CANN'T AFFORD TO LOOSE ANY OF OUR MEMBER AS EACH ONE OF US HAS SAME
IMPORTANCE IN THIS WAR AGAINST INJUSTICE.*
*AT THIS JUNCTURE I REQUEST ALL THE MEMBERS OF SNATTA TO KINDLY CONCENTRATE
ON:*
*1. UNITY OF SNATTA.*
*2. FUND MANAGEMENT FOR AIC, GOA.*
*3. CONDUCT OF CIRCLE CONFERENCES.*
*4. SENDING DELEGATION FEE.*
*5. AGENDA OF AIC GOA.*
**
**
*I ONCE AGAIN REQUEST ALL TTAs AFFECTED BY WAGE REVISION TO ATTEND CIRCLE
CONFERENCES ACTIVELY AND TO COME FORWAED TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT
AS OFFICEBEARER IN CIRCLE BODY. THEY MUST ATTEND THE AIC IN HUGE NUMBER TO
SHOW THAT THEY REALY WANT JUSTICE AND ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO SNATA.*
**
*I NOT ONLY HOPE BUT AM SURE THAT THEIR LARGE ATTENDANCE AT AIC GOA WILL
ENCOURAGE CHQ BODY TO ACT MORE SERIOUSLY ON THE ISSUE.*
**
*YOUR'S *
*RK UPADHYAY*
*TTA (MKTG)*
*MATHURA*
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Harmesh Lal <harmeshduggal@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> sir
> i am harmesh lal tta of 2008 batch i just joined this group i have
> attended cec at ludhiana along with new ttas we r informed to come at 2.00
> pm at bharat ngr exchange
> when we reached there conference was already over ,the representive present
> there asked us what's ur problem ,firstly we r amazed that the meeting was
> already over moreover everybody knows we r facing pay anamoly , i told them
> about pay anomoly and asked how snatta help us , they replied u have to
> solve ur problem own ur own and ,u have to go to court ,In court u will get
> the justice campared to union mr tajinder & inderpreet r the persons
> present there ,not getting any encouraging , helpful hand from their
> side , message was clear solve ur problem own ur own ,it seems meeting was
> complete eye wash
> i appeal to new ttas to come forward ,many new tta r active on this
> issue ,already met the advocate i myself went to chandigarh twice .WE
> WILL FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT AND WILL GET IT
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/24/10, RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 8:03 AM
>
>
>
> *MR. BALWINDER SINGH JI !*
> *I THINK THERE IS SOME SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH YOU BOTH. BOTH OF YOU SHOULD
> SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND SOLVE THE ISSUE FOR THE SAKE OF YOURSELF AND THE GROUP
> AS A WHOLE. IF YOU BOTH DON'T HAVE GUTS TO FACE EACHOTHER TO SOLVE THE ISSUE
> THEN I AM SURE OF BOTH OF YOU THINKING YOURSELVES GTREATER THAN THE GROUP,
> WHICH CAN NEVER BE TRUE. *
> *BOTH OF YOU MUST REFRAIN YOURSELVES FROM MUDSLINGING. BY DOING SO, YOU
> WILL WASTE YOUR ENERGY IN NON PRODUCTIVE ACTIVITIES. PL THINK BEYOND SELF AT
> LEAST WHEN YOU ARE IN GROUP.*
> *YOU ARE MEMBERS OF SAME GROUP. HAVE BROTHERHOOD. TAKE HELP OF SOME COMMON
> FRIEND OF YOURS AND SOLVE THE ISSUE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. ALTHOUGH IT'S
> BETTER TO LATE THAN NEVER.*
> *HOPING OF SOME POSITIVE AND ENCOURAGING SOLUTION FROM BOTH OF MY WELL
> EDUCATED, WELL MANNERED, SPECIAL FRIENDS.*
> *THE GROUP NEEDS YOU BOTH, SO PL USE POSITIVE ENERGY FORV BETTERMENT OF
> THE GROUP. WE REALLY NEED YOU IN OUR GROUP, SO PLEASE REPEAT PLEASE DON'T
> LET EVILS WIN OVER YOU.*
> *THANKING YOU BOTH AND HOPING TO TO SEE YOU BOTH AS BEST FRIENDS OF
> EACHOTHER IN GOA.*
> **
> *YOUR'S*
> **
> *RK UPADHYAY*
> *TTA (MKTG)
> MATHURA*
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
> > wrote:
>
>
> Dear friends
> i expect this kind of words from sick thinking person gola
> singh for me & all my SSA TTAs who demand for circle conference in DEC
> meeting at jallandhar to maintain faith & unity in our TTAs. Neither CS
> Punjab nor any other from circle body reply to our SSA queries . moreover CS
> Punjab or mr gola singh (harjinder singh) did respond to my request to
> arrange meeting in their own SSA Ludhiana to discuss the issues & maintain
> unity,either they have no responsibility or guts. I think gola singh has
> gone mentally disturb after licking sole of trade union leaders to protect
> him from chargesheet. What we can expect from this kind of person who had
> put our SNATTA to shame .Its my humble request to CHQ & my all dear driends
> to interfere to protect our SNATTA from such persons..
>
> Balwinder singh
> District president
> SNATTA Jallandhar
> Re: TTABSNL TRIANGLE STORY CREATED BY THREE IDIOTS (SUDESH , BALWINDER &
> SHAILENDER.
> Tuesday, 24 August, 2010 5:07 AM
> From:
> "RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>
> >
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> To:
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>
> *MAY I REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY HAVE A CONTROL OVER WORDS. LET'S DON'T GET
> CARRIED AWAY BY THE SITUATION.*
> *THANKS.*
>
> *RK UPADHYAY*
> *TTA (MKTG)*
> *MATHURA*
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Friends ,
>
>
> I want to share with you a story created about CEC-PUNJAB by
> OUR THREE BROTHERS , you can call them due to their MAD ACT as THREE
> IDIOTS.My brothers as from all mails on yahoo groups , one can easly
> conclude that---
>
> 1. Our first brother ( Idiot) , Sudesh who started whole MAD ACT about CEC
> -PUNJAB.As i confirmed from circle body members , sudesh was duly invited
> but he never attended CEC.At last all responsible members from his ssa ,
> explained ALL ABOUT SUDESH on yahoo group.Now he has no moral right to PUT
> ANYTHING ON GROUP. I request to chq please sacked him from YAHOO GROUP
> ATLEAST.
>
> 2. Our second brother Shailender ( idiot) , as i am belong to ssa ludhiana
> & i know him very well. As known to all that he has given RESIGN FROM
> DS-LUDHIANA by his own MAD ACT ( EGO ) .Now he suddenly become DS-LUDHIANA
> by his own again by his mad act . Now he is talking about all time , day &
> night about democracy in snatta.
>
> 3. Our third Brother (Balwinder ) , i know him through the mail on group ,
> he is crying on group about CEC-PUNJAB & Favouring sudesh & shailender.
>
>
> These three brothers ( idiots ) , if they have problem
> with CEC then why they are SPOILING THE WHOLE SNATTA-PUNJAB on following
> lines --
>
> 1. the situation created by wage loss to new ttas & THESE BROTHERS TRYING
> TO EXPLOIT THE SITUATION.
>
> 2. New ttas & Old ttas. etc. etc. etc...
>
>
> Harjinder pal singh ,
> ssa-punjab.
> TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
> Monday, 23 August, 2010 7:00 PM
> From:
> "Balwinder Mehmi" <balmehmi555@yahoo.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
> >
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> To:
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> >
> Cc:
> circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>,
> "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snattachq@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=razzdcool@yahoo.com>>,
> "gola singh" <gola.singh@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gola.singh@yahoo.com>>,
> "surinder mittal" <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com>
> >, "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
> >*... more*
> **
>
> you kind of people can never understand the feelings
> of our dear TTAs ,The demand of CEC was of my SSA in DEC meeting not my
> alone.moreover tell me who is responsible for
> 1. wage loss
> 2. not designation change
> my answer & all knows only designation change comitte member & wage
> revision comitte member only our circle secretary punjab (who did not show
> any knowledge & guts to get any thing done for our dear TTAs instead of
> blaming others ). So why you do not cry in front of him for all these.
> My dear friend we do not want to repeat story by again giving
> responsibility to that uncapable leader
> For wage loss to TTAs we arranged DEC
> meeting at jallandhar & put agenda to DS BSNLEU who forward de demands of
> TTAs to CS & GS of BSNLEU ,we also forward the agenda to our CS.
> We again raise the demand to give five
> increments to TTAs affected by wage revision in DEC meeting of BSNLEU &
> again remind the demands to CS & GS BSNLEU on mobile by me & DS BSNLEU
>
> Now the quetion is
> 1. have you or CS Punjab put wage loss agenda to CHQ or CS BSNLEU before
> it was pick-up by CHQ itself.
> 2. have your goodself arranged any meeting in your SSA for demands of our
> dear TTAs.
> 3. is there any district body in your SSA if not then why & where are your
> activities.
>
> Moreover instead of asking any quetion to me first just reply my
> SSA five queries.
>
> Instead to keep blaming continously on yahoo group it will be better you
> arrange meeting in your SSA to discuss all these issues to maitain unity of
> our SNATTA
>
> Balwinder singh
> District president
> SNATTA Jallandhar
>
>
>
>
> Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
> Monday, 23 August, 2010 12:05 PM
> From:
> "Gola Singh" <gola.singh@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gola.singh@yahoo.com>
> >
> View contact details<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTBtamlsNmJjBF9TAzM5ODMyMTAyNwRhYwN2aWV3QUI-/SIG=1p710i4hj/**http%3A//address.mail.yahoo.com/yab%3Fv=YM%26A=t%26simp=1%26em=gola.singh%2540yahoo.com%26fn=Gola%2BSingh%26.done=http%253A%252F%252Fin.mc950.mail.yahoo.com%252Fmc%252FshowMessage%253FsMid%253D0%2526filterBy%253D%2526.rand%253D2084551231%2526midIndex%253D0%2526mid%253D1_452293_AIUSaMsAAKlgTHKUfg42QRrACbI%2526f%253D1%2526fromId%253Dgola.singh%252540yahoo.com%2526m%253D1_452293_AIUSaMsAAKlgTHKUfg42QRrACbI%25252C1_450827_AIwSaMsAAN5CTHJPKQW0tB8euxk%25252C1_445678_AIwSaMsAAMj2THIjiQWkQ1XYpvQ%25252C1_438168_AJASaMsAAIPITHIjNA6agAW1Eow%25252C1_439067_AIcSaMsAAPC1THIjTgSbPVP2%25252BHE%25252C1_437360_AIUSaMsAAL8gTHIjKQ49PzJqybg%25252C%2526sort%253Ddate%2526order%253Ddown%2526startMid%253D0%2526hash%253Dbe45cd52f16be59edea14b17b7357e90%2526.jsrand%253D1767682%2526acrumb%253DstqcwLYMCgh%2526enc%253Dauto>
> To:
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>
>
>
>
>
> Balwinder ji ,
>
>
> Why are you crying on yahoo group about CEC , please it
> is better if you CRY for following--
>
> 1. Wage loss to new ttas.
>
> 2. JTO-INTERNAL EXAM.
>
> 3. Designation Chnage.
>
> Above are our long pending demand , but you are crying for
> CEC ONLY , Please start crying for above issues NOW. Above issues are
> important than CEC ,Punjab.Please agree with request of your younger
> brother.
>
>
> Harjinder Pal Singh,
> ssa-ludhiana.
>
>
>
> Dear jujhar singh
> my dear friend if in your SSA any
> trade union leaders are threating our dear TTAs, The SSA District body can
> increase its activities by arranging meeting at SSA level to protect our
> dear TTAs from any harm by management or trade union . moreover your SSA can
> complain to our circle body & chq SNATTA (If u have complain to cs or cc
> punjab, the steps they taken are u satisfied with them)
> I assure u we will stand by u against any injustice with our dear TTAs.
> My dear i want to clear that i do not
> follows mr sudesh kumar ,the demand to conduct circle conference is of my
> SSA in DEC meeting. We take any decision in democrative way in DEC meeting &
> always stands with truth.
> my dear our circle leaders are not ready to
> discuss issue regarding CEC Punjab, if they had responsibility or sense to
> maitain unity they had arranged meeting to discuss the issue & stop
> increasing conflict between TTAs ,moreover all new TTAs say that if they had
> any post in SNATTA leadership they did not have pay anomally , so its our
> responsibility to give them proper representation to maintain our SNATTA
> unity
> For ur kind information we had already declare to give the post of
> DP to new TTA in our SSA in democrative way. so my dear friends try to
> understand our feelings to maintain unity of SNATTA
> Its out of understandig that TTAs who are being harrassed by management or
> any trade union instead of having district body & circle body are opposing
> to conduct circle conference in democrative way to maintain faith in all
> dear TTAs & discuss all issues like yours in detail at circle level.
>
> Balwinder singh
> District president
> SNATTA Jallandhar
> Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
> Sunday, 22 August, 2010 2:20 AM
> From:
> "jujhar Singh" <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>
> >
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> To:
> TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Mr Balwinder
> You donot know the matter in Amritsar .what ever Sudesh have tell you
> don't repeated it .even not one people agree with Sudesh Kumar. You know
> that why a single person of SNATTA member didn't attend the CEC meeting last
> tow week ago, because BNSLEU threading the SNATTA member in different way
> and Sudesh Kumar with them. if you have some proble with CEC you
> talk them and put question in meeting don't write in yahoogroup it will
> not faver in SNATTA
> .So please stop questioning
>
> --- On *Fri, 20/8/10, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
> >
> Subject: TTABSNL REGARDING CECPUNJAB
> To: circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>
> Cc: "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snattachq@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=razzdcool@yahoo.com>>,
> "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>>,
> "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>>,
> "surajpreet singh" <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com>
> >
> Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 11:18 PM
>
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> Dear circle body punjab (CS &CC )
> Why you have not reply to our SSA quries
> regading cec punjab (have you not any answer). What we shoud think about
> you
> If you have any answer then also reply who is responsible for injustice
> with mr surajpreet singh & all other TTAs attending broadband
> complaints. who is responsible for passing TA bill proposal in RCM meeting
> which is not benifial to TTAs. will you blame to our chq for TA bill as you
> have done in case of wage revision. Must reply before its too much late.
> TTABSNL REGARDING CWC PUNJAB
> Saturday, 14 August, 2010 10:46 AM
> From:
> "Balwinder Mehmi" <balmehmi555@yahoo.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
> >
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> To:
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> Cc:
> snattachq@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snattachq@yahoogroups.com>,
> circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>,
> "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
> >
>
> DEAR CIRCLE BODY PUNJAB & ALL DEAR FRINDS
>
> THERE ARE SOME QUETIONS RELATED TO CWC MEETING OF PUNJAB CIRCLE HELD ON
> DATED 08-08-2010 KINDLY REPLY:-
>
> 1. WHY NOT CWC MEETING NOTICE LOADED ON SNATTA.ORG <http://snatta.org/> OR
> YAHOO GROUPS AS PER RESOLUTION OF CWC HAS BEEN LOADED
>
> 2. AS THE LAST DATE OF SENDING LIST OF DELEGATES FOR AIC AT GOA &
> COLLECTION OF RS-100 FUND FOR COURT CASES WAS 31-07-2010
> WHY NOT CWC MEETING HOLD BEFORE 31-07-2010
>
> 3. FUND COLLECTION OF RS-500 EACH BY ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA PUNJAB. IT HAS
> COME TO KNOW BY RELIABLE RESOURCES (MR JASVIR KUMAR JASSAL IN DEC MEETING OF
> JALLANDHAR) THAT THIS FUND ALSO INCLUDES FUND FOR CIRCLE CONFERENCE OF
> PUNJAB CIRCLE
> WHY NOT MENTION ABOUT CIRCLE CONFERENCE IN RESOLUTION PASSED BY CWC
>
> 4. IT HAS COME TO KNOW THAT TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 WERE NOT
> ALLOWED TO ATTEND MEETING, WHY
> IS THEY ARE NOT MEMBER OF SNATTA
>
> 5. WHY NOT GIVEN ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 IN
> CIRCLE BODY OF PUNJAB IN CWC.
>
> ALONG WITH REPLY TO ABOVE MENTION QUETIONS ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT
> MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED CWC MEETING ON 08-08-2010 WITH THE POST THEY HOLD IN
> CIRCLE BODY OR SSA BODY
>
> BALWINDER SINGH
> DISTRICT PRESIDENT
> SNATTA JALLANDHAR
> PUNJAB
> TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
> Friday, 13 August, 2010 2:50 PM
> From:
> "atul kumar" <atulkumar014@gmail.com<http://us.mc1204.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=atulkumar014@gmail.com>
> >
> View contact details<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTBtamlsNmJjBF9TAzM5ODMyMTAyNwRhYwN2aWV3QUI-/SIG=1r6a5ikd1/**http%3A//address.mail.yahoo.com/yab%3Fv=YM%26A=t%26simp=1%26em=atulkumar014%2540gmail.com%26fn=atul%2Bkumar%26.done=http%253A%252F%252Fin.mc950.mail.yahoo.com%252Fmc%252FshowMessage%253FsMid%253D2%2526fid%253DInbox%2526sort%253Ddate%2526order%253Ddown%2526startMid%253D0%2526filterBy%253D%2526.rand%253D657045229%2526midIndex%253D2%2526mid%253D1_431_AIISaMsAASNHTGVhzQh73WxvJ90%2526fromId%253Datulkumar014%252540gmail.com%2526m%253D1_348347_AIMSaMsAAOrdTGZaGwDabkrKEHI%25252C1_347824_AIcSaMsAAJaiTGZBAgS8qi3O3Gk%25252C1_431_AIISaMsAASNHTGVhzQh73WxvJ90%25252C1_1309_AIsSaMsAAEikTGTe3gv4wjbH9%25252Bg%25252C1_2055_AIoSaMsAAJ%25252B4TGQfuAStSXbTE64%25252C1_2727_AIoSaMsAAPt3TFGjhAsToyXvxQA%25252C1_3567_AIwSaMsAADvCTE%25252BilgMnsn%25252F%25252FovY%25252C1_4260_AJASaMsAAFe4TE%25252BifgU5ImerCaw%25252C%2526.jsrand%253D8350564%2526acrumb%253DNLXw2h84Fdb%2526enc%253Dauto>
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>
> *JALANDHAR SSA IS NOT SATISFIED WITH CEC PUNJAB DECISIONS *
> * *
> A District Body meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar SSA took place at LCM Room
> JL on dt
>
> 12-08-2010. In this meeting the resolution passed by CEC were discussed
> in detail. The
>
> meeting was presided by Sh Balwinder Singh, President. Sh Jasveer
> Jassal,vice Circle
>
> President was also present. Following points were raised unanimously-
>
> 1. Circle conference should immediately be organized by the circle body in
> order to keep
>
> the faith of all its member.
>
> 2. The whole Jalandhar District Body is not satisfied with the decision of
> continuing the
>
> existing CEC as no District Body member was present in Ludhiana during
> the process
>
> due to formal intimation by the Circle Body.
>
> 3. The members of Jalandhar are not ready to raise any fund, any financial
> contribution
>
> without Circle Conference.
> *
> Atul Kumar*
>
> Distt Secretary
>
> SSA - Jalandhar
>
>
>
>
>
>
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8. crises in punjab
Posted by: "sanjay gupta" sanju515631@yahoo.co.in sanju515631
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:14 am ((PDT))
What is happening in Punjab is clear to all member,if somebody is using this platform to explore what is hapenning in punjab specially in ludhiana than instead of solving the problem,people like GOLA are using such kind of word ,which is not acceptable to anybody. I think the word he is using is fit for himself .There is lot of problem in ludhiana for last 1 year and CHQ is taking it lightly.It is in the interest of SNATTA to solve the matter as early as possible .Our tta friend in broadband section is spending money from there pocket for last two year to install braoadband and to attend complaint and no one is taking this matter seriously.There are many more problem
Why the question put up by district president jalandher is unanswered ?Why chq close there eyes towards this serious problem?Who is going to solve this problem?
sanjay kumar
tta ludhiana
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9. bak file
Posted by: "bally" ballypb@gmail.com ballypb
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:22 am ((PDT))
which software is suitable to read .bak file
bakaran singh
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10a. Re: URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))
SANDEEP SIR
YES, SANDEEP JI IT IS VERY IMPORTENT FOR SUCCESSFUL AIC WHICH WILL PROVIDE FUTURE DIRECTION TO SNATTA AND AT THIS POINT CO OPARATION FROM ALL THE CIRCLE IS INDISSPANCIBLE. FUND IS THE FIRST AND UTMOST IMPORTANCE NOT ONLY FOR AIC BUT FOR BETTER FUNCTIONING OF SNATTA ALSO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE IGNORED THIS IMPORTENT ISSUE FROM THE FORTHCOMING AIC AGENDA AND JUST INCLUDED IT AS FUND MANAGEMENT BUT NOT TO WORK AS UNION OR FUND COLLETION SYSTEM, THOUGH WE ARE FACING THE FINANCIAL CRUNCH EVERY NOW & THEN. I THINK FOR SNATTA IT IS VERY IMPORTENT TO WORK AS UNION THAN AN ASSOCIATION BY WHICH WE WILL GET A PLATEFORM FOR AUTOMATIC FUND COLLECTION SYSTEM.
THOUGH OUR FEW FRIENDS HAVE SOME RESERVATION TO WORK AS UNIONIEST BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT AS A UNION THEIR ROLE IS LIMITED TO FIGHT FOR THE TOWEL AND DUSTER ONLY. BUT FRIENDS IT IS UPTO WE TO DECIDE FOR THE ISSUES FOR WHICH SNATTA WILL WORK AND DEFINATELY FOR SNATTA IT WILL NOT BE DUSTER AND WATER BOTTLE.
I REQUEST IT TO ALL CIRCLE PL. DO IT BEFORE 31ST AUG. AND FROM UP(E) I HOPE I WILL DO IT BY 27TH AUG.
THANKS
LALIT
CS UP(E)
--- On Mon, 16/8/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
To: "Group" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Monday, 16 August, 2010, 19:17
Hello ALL !!!
Despite of all issues which are currently most favourite in Yahoo Group, I feel now the follwing Topic is to be discussed now up to 1st Oct.
SUBMITTING DELEGATION FEES FOR AIC
I am surprised that no one accept GUJARAT have submitted the delegation fees for AIC to Maharashtra Circle.
We should think about our HOST ( MAHARASHTRA ). It will not be easy to arrange the AIC without fund for Maharashtra Circle.
Keep all things on side.
Think about the AIC now. Help Maharashtra Circle in arrangements for AIC...
I expect comments from all ACTIVE MEMBERS of Yahoo Groups on the matter so that all circles try to do it fast...
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
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10b. Re: URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
Posted by: "RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" ttamktgmtr@gmail.com raj.ku73
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:41 pm ((PDT))
*I THINK UP (W) ALSO SHOULD MOVE FAST IN THIS REGARD.*
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*RK UPADHYAY*
*T**TA (MKTG)*
*MATHURA*
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>
> SANDEEP SIR
> YES, SANDEEP JI IT IS VERY IMPORTENT FOR SUCCESSFUL AIC WHICH WILL
> PROVIDE FUTURE DIRECTION TO SNATTA AND AT THIS POINT CO OPARATION FROM ALL
> THE CIRCLE IS INDISSPANCIBLE. FUND IS THE FIRST AND UTMOST IMPORTANCE NOT
> ONLY FOR AIC BUT FOR BETTER FUNCTIONING OF SNATTA ALSO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY
> WE IGNORED THIS IMPORTENT ISSUE FROM THE FORTHCOMING AIC AGENDA AND JUST
> INCLUDED IT AS FUND MANAGEMENT BUT NOT TO WORK AS UNION OR FUND COLLETION
> SYSTEM, THOUGH WE ARE FACING THE FINANCIAL CRUNCH EVERY NOW & THEN. I THINK
> FOR SNATTA IT IS VERY IMPORTENT TO WORK AS UNION THAN AN ASSOCIATION BY
> WHICH WE WILL GET A PLATEFORM FOR AUTOMATIC FUND COLLECTION SYSTEM.
> THOUGH OUR FEW FRIENDS HAVE SOME RESERVATION TO WORK AS UNIONIEST BECAUSE
> THEY FEEL THAT AS A UNION THEIR ROLE IS LIMITED TO FIGHT FOR THE TOWEL AND
> DUSTER ONLY. BUT FRIENDS IT IS UPTO WE TO DECIDE FOR THE ISSUES FOR WHICH
> SNATTA WILL WORK AND DEFINATELY FOR SNATTA IT WILL NOT BE DUSTER AND WATER
> BOTTLE.
> I REQUEST IT TO ALL CIRCLE PL. DO IT BEFORE 31ST AUG. AND FROM UP(E) I HOPE
> I WILL DO IT BY 27TH AUG.
> THANKS
> LALIT
> CS UP(E)
>
> --- On *Mon, 16/8/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>* wrote:
>
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> From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: TTABSNL URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
> To: "Group" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
> Date: Monday, 16 August, 2010, 19:17
>
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>
> Hello ALL !!!
>
>
> Despite of all issues which are currently most favourite in Yahoo Group, I
> feel now the follwing Topic is to be discussed now up to 1st Oct.
>
> SUBMITTING DELEGATION FEES FOR AIC
>
> I am surprised that no one accept GUJARAT have submitted the delegation
> fees for AIC to Maharashtra Circle.
> We should think about our HOST ( MAHARASHTRA ). It will not be easy to
> arrange the AIC without fund for Maharashtra Circle.
>
> Keep all things on side.
> Think about the AIC now. Help Maharashtra Circle in arrangements for AIC...
>
>
> I expect comments from all ACTIVE MEMBERS of Yahoo Groups on the matter so
> that all circles try to do it fast...
>
>
> Er. Sandip Solanki
>
> C.C., SNATTA,
>
> Rajkot - GUJARAT
>
> 09429244440
>
>
>
>
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11. Union or Association for AIC Goa
Posted by: "Gaurav Singh" gks_bsnl@yahoo.co.in gks_bsnl
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:26 pm ((PDT))
Dear Lalit ji,
I am agree with you, fund management is very important for snatta future.union deduction form salary to snatta is much better than collecting funds by each one,and it happens when we registered as union. With Regards Gaurav Kumar Singh Executive member up-east TTA Azamgarh
Sent from my Nokia phone
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12a. Fw: [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:30 pm ((PDT))
Dear Rajawatji
Namaste
I am forwarding an important email related to one absconding girl child of 4
years old who was kidnapped by a beggar and forced to beg in public places. Her
photo as well as the website dealing with search of her parent/guardians is
given here. If u publish this mail in our yahoo group, some one across the BSNL
may have any information about this missing child. Though we r not aware of the
success of our efforts, some times, this may lead to reaching the correct
persons. Though, the attached mail is in Tamil Language, the website may give
information about the child. You may edit and paste it as a social welfare.
Note: All other handlers of this mail may disseminate to their known contacts.
With regards.
SN Ameen
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To: PSA2000 <PSAPSA1971@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Wed, 25 August, 2010 10:59:16 AM
Subject: [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
AS Received
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Jeddah, KSA.
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12b. Re: Fw: [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:59 pm ((PDT))
Dear Noorulameen,
i could not expect this from you. the website is not functional and the mail
is supposed to be a HOAX.
i again request all my friends to check the contents of the mail before
forwarding to the group.
bandhan
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:15 AM, shahulhameed noorulameen <
noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Dear Rajawatji
> Namaste
>
> I am forwarding an important email related to one absconding girl child of
> 4 years old who was kidnapped by a beggar and forced to beg in public
> places. Her photo as well as the website dealing with search of her
> parent/guardians is given here. If u publish this mail in our yahoo group,
> some one across the BSNL may have any information about this missing child.
> Though we r not aware of the success of our efforts, some times, this may
> lead to reaching the correct persons. Though, the attached mail is in Tamil
> Language, the website may give information about the child. You may edit and
> paste it as a social welfare.
>
> Note: All other handlers of this mail may disseminate to their known
> contacts.
> With regards.
> SN Ameen
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* Peer Mohamed A.M. <peerappa@yahoo.com>
> *To:* PSA2000 <PSAPSA1971@YAHOO.COM>
> *Sent:* Wed, 25 August, 2010 10:59:16 AM
> *Subject:* [JTS] Fw: Please forward this message - If U wish
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> Dear all ,
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> The below said child (4 yr old) is in search of her father and mother .
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13a. IMPORTANT
Posted by: "ramesh kannan" rameshkannan79@yahoo.co.in rameshkannan79
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:31 pm ((PDT))
Friends
All The Nagercoil SNATTA's want the punjab issue to be stopped in this forum bcs the support we r getting from the 2002 batch to new recruited TTA 's r shakey after the whole issue so we want the moderator to stop the discussion on this issue and concentrate on the other issues .The whole discussion in this forum made us to think that in the AIC this will be the main issue raised by the punjab friends so we fear that whole purpose to travel from nagercoil to Goa is going to be a Question mark so think on it and its the responsibility of the CHQW to give a strong reply .
J Ramesh
TTA Nagercoil,Tamilnadu
Organising Secretary
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14. BSNL goes for tech tie up to revive its manufacturing units
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:04 am ((PDT))
BSNL is the only service provider in India that runs manufacturing facilities, but its factories are in a state of disarray and it lacks the technology to compete with global hardware majors.
To revive the fortunes of these manufacturing units, BSNL is exploring the potential of a technology tie-up to get the required expertise.
R P Nigam, senior general manager, BSNL, said, "Earlier we failed to secure a JV partner as the interested partner was from China and the government had reservations about security. So we have decided to go on our own. To acquire latest technology, we are looking for a technology tie-up, but JV route is not on the cards".
When asked about the problems facing these factories, Nigam said, "Money is not an issue, we are facing manpower crunch, and technology is another problem."
For instance, at BSNL’s Jabalpur plant, against the sanctioned staff strength of 688, there are only 452 technicians actually working leaving 236 positions vacant.
When asked about the importance these factories have in the overall business, he said, "These factories are always of secondary importance; primary focus is on telecom operations."
He denied any plans to hive off the business into a separate entity, saying that they will not be sustainable on their own.
Nigam also added that final decisions about the future of these factories will be taken by a new team. He said, "I will retire in a couple of days; some of the other senior officials will also retire in next couple of months. We will have a completely new team by July next year, which will chalk out the details of the plan and implement it."
BSNL’s telecom factories are located at seven places in India viz. Jabalpur, Richhai, Bhilai, Kolkata, Gopalpur, Kharagpur and Mumbai. Together they employ 3,000 people.
These factories manufacture a range of telecom products including SIM cards, telecom towers, telecom poles, modems, pay phones and other accessories such as joining kits, SS drop wire etc.
All the equipment manufactured in these factories is meant only for BSNL.
: Sudesh
TTA, Amritsar
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15. Award of Departmental scholarship for Technical / Non-Technical educ
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:04 am ((PDT))
Applications are invited by BSNL, from Telecom employees for grant of Departmental scholarship for 2010-2011 for Technical and Non-Technical education of their son/daughter/spouse, who are dependent on them. For details & performa see attched document.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj
TTA (Amritsar)
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1872542175/item/list
Scholarship 2010-11.pdf
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16. Grant of Awards to outstanding school going children for the year 20
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:05 am ((PDT))
Applications for the Awards are invited for the year 2010-11 based on the performance in Standard I to XI, in academic year 2009-2010. For details & performa see attachment.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj
TTA (Amritsar)
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/881914588/item/list
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