Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
From: sushil choudhary
1b. Re: Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
From: raj upadhyay
2a. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: sushil choudhary
2b. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: Pr Yadav
2c. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: Pr Yadav
3a. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: M K SAHA
3b. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: M K SAHA
4. regarding transfer
From: shashi123436
5a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution tothedeadlock !!!!
From: raj upadhyay
6a. Re: Fw: ABOUT Aurora Presto
From: Harish Kumar Janjua
7a. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: shailendra saraswat
8a. Re: higher studies
From: M K SAHA
9a. REQUEST FROM LUDHIANA SSA TO EACH SNATTA MEMBER OF PUNJAB.
From: shailendra saraswat
10. Fw: TTABSNL Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
11a. Re: Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
From: Shiv(Raja2u)
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1a. Re: Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
Posted by: "sushil choudhary" lakshya2001@gmail.com lucky_nagaur
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:31 am ((PDT))
Dear Bandhan,
I do agree with your suggestions that it needs a strong protest to deliver
our demands and to attract mass media towards the difficulties and ignorance
faced by the TTA cadre.I also appreciate the views regarding the
restructuring of SNATTA body. To add a little more this restructuring should
also be extended to circle SNATTA bodies. There are many circles where the
circle body is totally non functional and we never have their views on this
platform.Many circles have not conducted the circle conference and i find it
very difficult that it will be conducted before AIC.
I am of the opinion that the foundation must be strong enough for the large
building. This restructuring must be started at district level body. A
district secretary must have email ids and contact no. of all the TTAs in
his/her SSA. Then circle secretary must have email ids and contact no. of
all the district secretaries in his circle.Every message from SNATTA CHQ
should reach every member of the association via CS & DS. This will enhance
confidence amongst ourselves that we are involved and informed of every
decision at CHQ level.
We all together can make a difference. Can't we.....?
Thanks
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary
SNATTA
Nagaur- Rajasthan
09413394233
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> i am of the View that we should* do some Restructuring among SNATTA body*and We should involve more people for brainstorming in CHQ Body.
>
> In my opinion, like BSNLEU in past and recently SNATTA Haryana Circle made
> 3 Assistant CS likewise *CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General
> Secretaries (AGS)*. *We can also have Vice-Presidents *to look after the
> entire affairs of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role.
> We should choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan,
> JK etc. so that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can
> send our AGS to represent our view in every meeting with management. We
> should try to attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. *We can have more
> democratic, liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries.* It
> will provide some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with
> so many requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some
> work to other members and make them responsible towards association. *
> EXAMPLE*, we can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any
> AGS. likewise we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee
> or Wage-Revision committee. *Everybody should have independent charge to
> look after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among
> themselves.*
>
> We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in *Circle Body* to have
> their more involvement.
>
> i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I
> will present my views on this platform so that people coming there for
> participation can take this points to further level. *i want that whoever
> attending AIC there should come up with something new and fresh to fight for
> our battle.* One can make a long list out of all discussions happened on
> this group and present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some
> matter before hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join
> there because of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.
>
> *I also want to share one of my personal thought (sorry for the delay in
> expressing it) with the group that we could have AIC meeting in New Delhi
> also so that everyone comes there and we could even show our protest march
> for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one
> shot. We don't have enough time to show our real concern We have to show our
> resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in Practical form. We could generate Media
> and public awareness with our protest march as done by JTOs in past.
> Everybody should know the pain and dissatisfaction prevailing among
> Qualified and Talented TTAs of BSNL. We have to do some type of
> Drama/Stunt to make them realize about our genuine demands. Now is the
> high Time to show some revolt against BSNL Mgmt like some Indians did
> against Britsihers in 1857. i shared the same with Punjab TTAs in Ludhiana
> meeting recently where i told them that we should went to Sanchar Bhavan in Full
> Black Dress to show our protest. Can't we do this ..?? Is there Anybody who
> agrees with me.??
> *
> *These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense
> only. anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest
> aside.* i will post my more views in coming days.
>
> *Comments, Criticism and Compliments are welcomed as always.*
>
> --
> regards,
>
> *Bandhan Preet Singh,*
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
--
With warm regards,
From,
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary, SNATTA
Nagaur. Rajsthan.
09413394233
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1b. Re: Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
Posted by: "raj upadhyay" raj.ku@indiatimes.com raj.ku73
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:59 am ((PDT))
VERY WELL SAID, WE MUST KEEP THE FOUNDATION STRONG.
----- Original Message -----
From: sushil choudhary
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:11:09 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Suggestion >>> Restructuring among SNATTA body.
Dear Bandhan,
I do agree with your suggestions that it needs a strong protest to deliver our demands and to attract mass media towards the difficulties and ignorance faced by the TTA cadre.I also appreciate the views regarding the restructuring of SNATTA body. To add a little more this restructuring should also be extended to circle SNATTA bodies. There are many circles where the circle body is totally non functional and we never have their views on this platform.Many circles have not conducted the circle conference and i find it very difficult that it will be conducted before AIC.
I am of the opinion that the foundation must be strong enough for the large building. This restructuring must be started at district level body. A district secretary must have email ids and contact no. of all the TTAs in his/her SSA. Then circle secretary must have email ids and contact no. of all the district secretaries in his circle.Every message from SNATTA CHQ should reach every member of the association via CS & DS. This will enhance confidence amongst ourselves that we are involved and informed of every decision at CHQ level.
We all together can make a difference. Can't we.....?
Thanks
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary
SNATTA
Nagaur- Rajasthan
09413394233
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,
i am of the View that we should do some Restructuring among SNATTA body and We should involve more people for brainstorming in CHQ Body.
In my opinion, like BSNLEU in past and recently SNATTA Haryana Circle made 3 Assistant CS likewise CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General Secretaries (AGS). We can also have Vice-Presidents to look after the entire affairs of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role. We should choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan, JK etc. so that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can send our AGS to represent our view in every meeting with management. We should try to attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. We can have more democratic, liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries. It will provide some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with so many requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some work to other members and make them responsible towards association. EXAMPLE, we can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any AGS. likewise we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee or Wage-Revision committee. Everybody should have independent charge to look after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among themselves.
We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in Circle Body to have their more involvement.
i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I will present my views on this platform so that people coming there for participation can take this points to further level. i want that whoever attending AIC there should come up with something new and fresh to fight for our battle. One can make a long list out of all discussions happened on this group and present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some matter before hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join there because of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.
I also want to share one of my personal thought (sorry for the delay in expressing it) with the group that we could have AIC meeting in New Delhi also so that everyone comes there and we could even show our protest march for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one shot. We don't have enough time to show our real concern We have to show our resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in Practical form. We could generate Media and public awareness with our protest march as done by JTOs in past. Everybody should know the pain and dissatisfaction prevailing among Qualified and Talented TTAs of BSNL. We have to do some type of Drama/Stunt to make them realize about our genuine demands. Now is the high Time to show some revolt against BSNL Mgmt like some Indians did against Britsihers in 1857. i shared the same with Punjab TTAs in Ludhiana meeting recently where i told them that we should went to Sanchar Bhavan in Full Black Dress to show our protest. Can't we do this ..?? Is there Anybody who agrees with me.??
These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense only. anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest aside. i will post my more views in coming days.
Comments, Criticism and Compliments are welcomed as always.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
--
With warm regards,
From,
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary, SNATTA
Nagaur. Rajsthan.
09413394233
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2a. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "sushil choudhary" lakshya2001@gmail.com lucky_nagaur
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:32 am ((PDT))
Dear pancham,
Did you take a notice that there is no item regarding conduction of LICE.
and that the CAT cases should be properly & timely replied by management..
This is a major issue to be added.
thanks
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Pr Yadav <pryadav55@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Chq
> kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
> * "senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"*
>
>
> * regards*
>
> *PANCHAM R YADAV*
>
> * TTA BSNL*
>
> * <http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://navneetengineers.com/images/logos/bsnl-logo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://navneetengineers.com/projects.htm&usg=__Qdwk8P3NHtmEN8h2dWQ6nBQlX2g=&h=70&w=100&sz=3&hl=en&start=28&itbs=1&tbnid=xIN-gP1J8qq04M:&tbnh=57&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbsnl%2Blogos%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1>
> *
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With warm regards,
From,
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary, SNATTA
Nagaur. Rajsthan.
09413394233
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2b. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "Pr Yadav" pryadav55@yahoo.com pryadav55
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:33 am ((PDT))
same problem is occure in jto/jao case in this case an order is circulated by corporate office ,so as per order of executive one order can be circulate in case of non exicutive. order copy is attached.
regards
PANCHAM R YADAV
TTA BSNL
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL supplimentary item for 24th NCM
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 9:38 PM
Dear Pr Yadav
This is what called as 'Pay Anomaly' and this can be represented through personal application through Accts channel. This used to be always happened when a new pay commission is implemented. When the problem is convinced by the finance authorities, the senior and junior will be brought at par with same pay. This will occur with one who gets his annual increment in the month of february or march etc... Pse represent ur case in the existing procedure.
Union/association office bearers may better highlight this info to all.
SN Ameen
Jeddah,KSA
From: Pr Yadav <pryadav55@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 2:21:26 PM
Subject: TTABSNL supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Dear Chq
kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
"senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"
regards
PANCHAM R YADAV
TTA BSNL
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2c. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "Pr Yadav" pryadav55@yahoo.com pryadav55
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:55 am ((PDT))
I am fully agree with sushil choudhary this is most important item for SNATTA & all TTA. So i request to our CHQ pl send the sulimentary item.
regardsPANCHAM R YADAV TTA BSNL
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, sushil choudhary <lakshya2001@gmail.com> wrote:
From: sushil choudhary <lakshya2001@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL supplimentary item for 24th NCM
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 6:44 AM
Dear pancham,Did you take a notice that there is no item regarding conduction of LICE. and that the CAT cases should be properly & timely replied by management.. This is a major issue to be added.
thanks
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Pr Yadav <pryadav55@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Chq
kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
"senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"
regards
PANCHAM R YADAV
TTA BSNL
--
With warm regards,
From,
Sushil Choudhary
District Secretary, SNATTA
Nagaur. Rajsthan.
09413394233
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3a. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:33 am ((PDT))
IT IS VIRUS/WORM problem. Also install firewall if not using already. Windows
Firewall is worthless. Download 'zonealarm firewall' free for home and personal
use. Update your antivirus. disconnect internet. scan your computer with 'all
files' and 'all types' option. delete any virus from virus chest or quarantine
after scan is over. Delete all cookies, history, offline files and all temp
files in C:\windows\Temp folder. There may be some files in this folder which
cannot be deleted. Restart your computer. it should work just fine.
Don't tweak any parameters in Zonealarm firewall. Install it and forget it. Any
new program try to access net it will ask your permission.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
(0)94343-09229
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From: Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 10:32:23 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
To
Bandhanji
OS XP,PPP mode,Modem UTSTARCOM..My Problem is sometime opens
all website(for 20 seconds)...and sometime it opens for long time i.e for
through out day...
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
>From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:40 PM
>
>
>
>hi.
>
>ping the website like this
>
>ping www.google.com
>and see the results.
>r u using bridge or pppoe.?
>
>pls tell all details like operating system and modem make etc..??
>
>Anybody whoever asks question in this forum pls tell all details alongwith ur
>question.
>
>bandhan preet singh
>
>
>On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>>
>>HI
>> DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page can not
>>be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this type of
>>fault?????
>>
>> Jasvant Parmar
>>TTA(Broadband)
>>Palanpur-Gujarat
>>9426655777
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>regards,
>
>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
>Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
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3b. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:33 am ((PDT))
Hi!
Don't use open DNS just found on the net. Ping it see the Latency. The smaller
latency, the faster page opens. Always try to get the DNS from your BNG config
file. I have included here the screeshot of latency tests of open DNS and our
own DNS.
Please don't use the DNS mentioned here as they are only for Eastern Zone. For
your zone, get it from Node In-charge.
Otherwise use 'nslookup' from command prompt to find the DNS server.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229
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From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 10:50:13 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
hi..
have u tried any other PC/Laptop for Troubleshooting??
In PPP mode pls select NAT, Firewall, Default Route, WAN service, IGMP service
inside modem settings page.
in modem setting page under advance setup there is written DNS. Click on it then
on right side uncheck the box then enter following DNS address
8.8.8.8
156.154.70.1
click on save.
reboot the modem, Don't enter the IP address in LAN TCP/IP properties in
Windows. let it take them from modem automatically.
have u Checked the SNR or Attenuation values.?
Is PC clean from Viruses or Malware.?
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
wrote:
>To
> Bandhanji
> OS XP,PPP mode,Modem UTSTARCOM..My Problem is sometime opens
>all website(for 20 seconds)...and sometime it opens for long time i.e for
>through out day...
>
>
> Jasvant Parmar
>TTA(Broadband)
>Palanpur-Gujarat
>9426655777
>
>
>--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: TTABSNL TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:40 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>hi.
>>
>>ping the website like this
>>
>>ping www.google.com
>>and see the results.
>>r u using bridge or pppoe.?
>>
>>pls tell all details like operating system and modem make etc..??
>>
>>Anybody whoever asks question in this forum pls tell all details alongwith ur
>>question.
>>
>>bandhan preet singh
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>HI
>>> DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page can not
>>>be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this type of
>>>fault?????
>>>
>>> Jasvant Parmar
>>>TTA(Broadband)
>>>Palanpur-Gujarat
>>>9426655777
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>regards,
>>
>>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>>Think Different...Think Good..!!
>>
>>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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DNS 3.jpg
DNS 2.jpg
DNS 4.jpg
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4. regarding transfer
Posted by: "shashi123436" shashi123436@yahoo.com shashi123436
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:33 am ((PDT))
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5a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution tothedeadlock !!!!
Posted by: "raj upadhyay" raj.ku@indiatimes.com raj.ku73
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:34 am ((PDT))
Thanks a lot to take pain to respond.
I never mean to hurt your ego.
Any way elder is elder and is always respectable and to be respected, no doubt about it.
I don't need to refer to the dictionary as my purpose of communicating my feelings is fulfilled.
I have joined in 2009, so what you have refered to is not in my knowledge. Otherwise also we shouldn't resort to this practice because of somebody in our group does it.
With warmest regards.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:24:59 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to thedeadlock !!!!
hi dear,
understand the flow of communication rather than words used.
chaps means fellow man, pls check the oxford dictionary.
i have not got ur mail when young guys used absurd word for their elder brothers. why u kept silent then.?
i understand ur feelings but at the same time pls do understand and regard us like elder brothers.
we are always with u my dear.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:34 AM, raj upadhyay <raj.ku@indiatimes.com> wrote:
A well thought,well worked out acceptable thought.I am in agreement with you to discuss the issue.
New TTAs also are coming in line to understand and work to achieve the goal of SNATTA. They have started participating actively. Let's call them friends. The use of words like chaps doesn't fit to the degree of love/ affection/respect, we have for our members.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:06:14 +0530 (IST)
Subject: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to the deadlock !!!!
Dear friends,
To the some extent i am also agree with Mr. VK Anand and Vikas about the thinking of reverse engineering.
We have to start looking back now. We have to see some alternative plans. Pls negotiate with them all at the earliest and Call an unofficial meeting with Union and management to resolve the Issue. We can make it out of the court settlement.
this yahoo group platform has already generated a lot of Ideas and Enthusiasm among its member TTAs but what about those still left untouched by the ongoing activities of SNATTA. We have to generate awareness about SNATTA activities among all TTAs so our strength becomes more strong. All are requested to let other TTAs also join this group and make it large and strong.
We have a lot of Talented Technical Associates (TTAs), everyone is having some or the other unique skill. Pls use them appropriately. We talk a lot about every damn thing on this planet but what about our PROMOTION..??
These young chaps ( TTAs 2007, 2009) think about their salaries only... the only mail coming from them is about fit-ment only. Have they ever thought about Promotion..?? We too agree that pay revision has not taken place to its best but u all New TTAs are not only concerned with this issue u have to involve urself with bigger opportunities also. I request everyone to think more about ur future also like CS Santosh of Kolkatta doing. i like his gutsy attitude.I request him to enroll all New TTAs in SNATTAs fold and make our family large and Strong.
i am highly impress with the way Mr.Anand took pain and generated new FRESH IDEAS for us to think about. Its not easy to gather all Ideas for a particular cause. The worries of Amit Sharma should also taken into concern while thinking of any new line of action.
i am of the View that we should do some Restructuring among SNATTA body and We should have more people in CHQ Body.
in my opinion, like BSNLEU and SNATTA Haryana Circle made 3 Assistant CS likewise CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General Secretaries (AGS). We can also have more Vice-Presidents to look after the entire affairs of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role. We should choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan, JK etc. so that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can send our AGS to represent our view in every meeting with management. We should try to attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. We can have more democratic, liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries. It will provide some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with so many requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some work to other members and make them responsible towards association. EXAMPLE, we can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any AGS. likewise we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee or Wage-Revision committee. Everybody should have independent charge to look after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among themselves.
We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in Circle Body to have their more involvement.
i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I will present my views on this platform so that people coming there can take this points to further level. i want that whoever attending AIC there should come up with something new and fresh to fight for our battle. One can make a long list out of all discussions happened on this group and present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some matter before hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join there because of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.
I also want to share one of my personal thought with the group that we could have AIC meeting in New Delhi also so that everyone comes there and we could even show our protest march for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one shot. We don't have enough time to show our real concern We have to show our resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in Practical form. We could generate Media and public awareness with our protest march as done by JTOs in past. Everybody should know the pain and dissatisfaction prevailing among Qualified and Talented TTAs of BSNL. We have to do some type of Drama/Stunt to make them realize about our genuine demands. Now is the high Time to show some revolt against BSNL Mgmt like some Indians did against Britsihers in 1857. i shared the same with Punjab TTAs in Ludhiana meeting recently where i told them that we should went to Sanchar Bhavan in Full Black Dress to show our protest. Can't we do this ..?? Is there Anybody who agrees with me.??
These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense only. anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest aside. i will post my more views in coming days.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,
it was certainly a very well thought and an eye opener post as what we have achieved and what we could have achieved since the formation of SNATTA.
I also personally feel that the court cases and the subsequent judgments are going to take us nowhere,number one-the legal machinery is time consuming and breadth taking we all would agree.number two-the judgments are too vague and one is left with own wisdom to interpret it.The court said the diverted personnel should be reverted back and the post should be restored but this left BSNL clue less as how this can be done when they actually have taken charge as JTOs and many have even been promoted to higher cadres.Yes they can be reverted back outright but this will again cause a rippling chain of court cases we never know.
But mind all I am/was not against SNATTAs court case to restore the diverted post.This is and was our most revered achievement so far that truly took us to new high and got us the respect from the adversaries.
I am just saying that we did this we did that but we still are TTAs and would remain for some time I think because some or the other feel that they have the right on post of JTO and they approach court and the court gives a stay.And BSNL also is in no mood to vacate the stay.
So in this case we should look for some greener pastures beyond the premises of court and see if there is some middle path.
And what Anand has suggested has certainly something to be given a deep thought by all.
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 12:26:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :
OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.
Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.
Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
LICE should be conducted regularly.
Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
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Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:34 am ((PDT))
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7a. Re: DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:34 am ((PDT))
DEAR FRIENDS N SO CALLED JOB EXECUTIONISTS FOR snatta I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS IN YES WHAT U HAVE ASKED TO ME IN UR N INFACT HAKAM SINGH MAIL WRITTEN THROUGH UR MAIL ID AS GOLA SINGH,N I WILL GIVE BRIRF REPLY N EXPLANATION TO ALL THE CIRCLE BODY N MEMBERS OF SNATTA IF U N HAKAM HAVE COURAGE THEN CALL CIRCLE CONFRENCE IN PUNJAB N READY TO ACCEPT A LOT OF YES ANSWERS FOR MANY QUESTIONS WHICH HAVE U DONT ASKED OR EVEN HAVE COURAGE TO ASK BESIDE THESE CHILDISH QUESTIONS MY DEAR GOLA ALIAS HAKAM SINGH. PLS CALL CIRCLE CONFRENCE LEAVE THE THINGS TO THE SNATTA MEMBERS TO DECIDE THE CONTRIBUTION OF INDIVIDUAL N I THINK HAKAM SINGH FEELING TIRED FOR HIS EFFORTS DONE SO HE MUST TAKE SOME REST FOR A WHILE N LET THE FRESH PEOPLE TAKE CHARGE. CALL THE CIRCLE CONFRENCE
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 11:01 PM
Dear Shalendra ,
Kindly give the reply to MY 7 QUESTIONS asked to you , Again i guess that your answer will be NO, NO ,NO.........................
Kndly accept that beyond LIP SERVICE your contribution to snatta is only NOTING OR BIG ZERO. Your problem is that you WANT LEADERSHIP ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE.
Kindly MOVE FOR CAUSE OF SNATTA , i promise to you that i will favour to you to become circle secretary of snatta punjab.
Kindly show me any proof of any meeting attended by you for cause of snatta.
My request to you , please dont become VICTOM
--- On Thu, 8/19/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:53 AM
DEAR friednds:
COME to me and pls go through the mail already send to chq and circle coordinator along with the attachments of signatures and resolution passed by the distt body of then ludhiana body? Then only gve me the reply attached to that n come to ask for any ur query. the wrritten letter n signature of all the ludhiana TTAs was attaced with that along with urs mr herjinder singh first u n pritpal ask to circle body the valid reason behind that,then pls cme to me and u people r trying to divide it between local n outsiders i never wrote this thing in any mail or letter.I have pity on u people' mentality n sick thought level. I again request to CHQ to intervene in this matter n come forward for the new circle body formation here in democratic way, Because there is no end of the blame n excuses so dear friends call the circle confrence here n give the reasons in front of all ludhiana TTAs not to harjinder singh or in a single locked room of ur peers.
From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com; snattapunjab@gmail.com; circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com; snattakerala@gmail.com; snattarajasthan@gmail.com; snattaap@gmail.com; snattabihar@gmail.com; snattagujrat@gmail.com; snattaharyana@gmail.com; snattahp@gmail.com; snattajharkhand@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com; snattajk@gmail.com; snattamp@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 8:26:57 AM
Subject: TTABSNL DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Dear EX-DS Ludhiana,
Yes , i fully understnad your demand for dissolution of circle body & the base you have given for dissulution is given below--
1. Hakam & Tejinder are DICTATORs only.
2. You & some ttas dont like him for no reasons.
Above are the clear reason for YOUR CAUSE FOR DISSOLUTION ONLY.
Now it is my questions to all tta friends that WHTHER IS A SUFFICIENT REASON TO dissolve circle body ? kindly think on this ill-logical demand of shalender.
From the last two years your contribution to snatta ludhiana is well know to all.
some a few queries from you-----
1. Have you attended meeting at delhi in last - september for 10 to 7 years reduction ?
answer is NO .
2. Have you attended meeting at residence of com. namboodiri for 2 YEARS RELAXATION FOR JTO-EXAM.
answer is NO.
3. Have you attended AIC-GOA at bhopal ?
answer is NO.
4. Have you attended any meeting of SNATTA EVER AT ANY PLACE ?
answer is NO .
5. Have you attended AIC-Hyderabad ?
answer is NO.
6. Have you atteneded ANY DHARNAS & DEMONSTRATIONS call by UNITED FORUM on behalf of ludhiana.
answer is NO.
7. FOR MANY MORE QUESTIONS , YOU HAVE MANY MORE NOs.
SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN GROUND YOUR SCORE IS ZEROS, BUT ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE YOU ARE VERY EXCELLENT.
Request to all & all chq leadres & all cc , PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY CONCLUSION ON A BASE OF LIP SERVICE OF SHALENDER , KINDLY LOOK HIS SERVICE FOR SNATTA IN GROUND.
Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:41 PM
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From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in; snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To,
The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA
As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason ,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover
On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a few ssa's of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members
WE however came to know from some of my friends of other ssa and attended the meeting to discuss regarding such kind of action . Around 35 to 40 TTA's of Ludhiana SSA reached the meeting venue without any invitation or formal notice and showed their deep disconsent in this kind of behavior and urged the circle representatives to solve the issues first but Hakam singh told us that this is only a simple meeting and nothing else .But recently it was observed on SNATTA site that Circle conference was held on that particular day which is completely false .he also mentioned some objectionable remarks to our CHQ n said that he has nothing to do with previous wage negotiation n was forced to signed that by CHQ ,he was trying to convince our new TTA FRIENDS. BY this improper n false remark what he want to do would he try to support the SNATTA or
trying to blemish on its existance n noble motives ??
i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTA's who are the strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta
Hence CHQ is particularly being requested to intervene in this matter and order circle representatives to held the circle conference immediately in LUDHIANA so that before ACM GOA we may also be able to send its actual representatives their n take poper decision in the total welfare of TTAs.
HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >
Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana SNATTA
09417545999-01612071503
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8a. Re: higher studies
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:35 am ((PDT))
First of all you have to to take official permission, then only you can try to
sit on exam. Contact TTA Jagannath of my section (almost same case as yours).
See how he is doing it.
0353-2535100 (10.00 to 17.00)
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From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 12:13:07 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL higher studies
Please refer Swamy's book in which Local authority can give permission for
regular study (not on leave only in off duty hours), taking into consideration
that there will be no harm to your efficiency and they can get back the
permission if they found any violation of the rule.
: Sudesh
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, Geetanjali Pandit <geetanjalipanditbsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: Geetanjali Pandit <geetanjalipanditbsnl@yahoo.com>
>Subject: TTABSNL higher studies
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 3:08 PM
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>i have joined BSNL on 19th October 2009.Dat time i finished 4 semesters of
>B.tech and 4 semesters are left.earlier i hav done diploma engg also.now i want
>to complete them.but i m finding no way to complete it.i m asking for
>extraordinary leave.still no use.plz suggest.i want leave rules of bsnl or any
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>geetanjali pandit
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9a. REQUEST FROM LUDHIANA SSA TO EACH SNATTA MEMBER OF PUNJAB.
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:37 am ((PDT))
I REQUEST TO ALL PUNJAB SNATTIANS PLS CONVEY THE MESSAGE OF LUDHIANA SSA TO CALL THE CIRCLE CONFRENCE WHICH IS DUE BY GIVING PROPER INFORMATION ON SNATTA WEBSITE WELL IN TIME BEFORE IT .AS THE PREVIOUS WAS THE CEC ONLY OF A FEW SELECTED PERSONS AND STRONGLY OPPOSED BY LUDHIANA TTAs AT THE VERY SAME TIME N DAY THERE.
THANKS, PRITPAL AS YOU KNOW THE GEOGRAPHY OF PUNJAB VERY WELL SO PLS TELL MR HAKAM SINGH WHO IS DEAF I THINK , NEARER SOUNDS OF DISSATISFACTION FROM HIS OWN SSA IS NOT LISTENED BY HIM SO PLS CONVEY HIM IN THE MANNER SO THAT HE COULD UNDER STAND THE THINGS CLEARLY PLS DO THE SAME THING WITH MR. TEJINDER SINGH ON TTA LUDHIANA'S BEHALF I THINK HE COULD NOT ABLE TO READ THE PREVIOUS MAILS I HAVE SENT TO HIM IN GENERAL URGE FROM SNATTA LUDHIANA , AS U ARE MORE NEARER TO HIM THAN ME. THIS WILL A GREAT SUPPORT FROM UR SIDE N NOBLE CONTRIBUTION FOR SNATTA LUDHIANA ASWELL AS PUNJAB. HOPE FOR FAVOURABLE REPLY N ACTION FROM OUR BELOVED DEVOTED N HARDWORKING SNATTIANS
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 10:59 AM
Dear Shailender
I am always feel the pain of my beloved TTA Cadre.I m not a new commers dear Secondly i u r more near to CC Hakam Singh than me i am more than 200 km away from him. If you realy want my help then tell me i will be there time and place will be of ur
choice. &n
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WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 10:47 PM
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From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 10:46:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
dear pritpal,
THANKS FOR UR PROMPT ACTION AS EXPECTED FOR MY MAIL IN GROUP WRITTEN FOR HARJINDER SINGH ALIAS "GOLA"
now u feel the same what i feel for my or TTA cause i must say that u must mind ur language before commenting on any issue about which u even dont know any thing or dont ever tried to understand the problem. as much as u r trying to solve the case of so called injustice by CGM or any body else other than ur SSA ,the same voice of justice n proper cause i have raised here in ludhiana in very proper n decorative manner in last year u can see my mail n resignation on the circle cordinators mail and if u can u will get the detail of matter very clear and concluded.This was not done by CGM or anybody else but by our circle coodinator and circle secrty .Further every body here is victim of management in ur words the reason is different but in my opinion we must see our home first.Have u ever tried to know that why there is no district body till date in ludhiana despite having all the news in ur notice in the home ssa of our circle secrty? Why Mr hakam
singh is not supported by the local TTAs here despite he is a RCM,LCM,CC,So called defender and fighter for good causes ? How can all the TTas of SSA could be influenced by a single miscreant? In this reference Mr. Balwant Dhindsa TTA raikot also wrote a mail to our leaders WHO is the newcomer in Ludhiana n that mail never came to our group to save the skin of culprits ?
So have the guts to say right thing and dnt believe on any body blindly go through facts ,this is because that u have made some comments on the instructions of somebody in ur previous mails on me and the ingenuinity of Ludhiana TTAs problem!!! YOU are nobody to decide the seriousness of the other's matter if u feel that u r right on ur point then other may also.Tell those buddies to conduct the circle confrence in democratic way n let the people decide that what they desreve they get, there is no question of doubt?? So pls go through my mail cool n calm i can also write to u this personaly , but let the people feel the same problem .
HERE NOTHING IS PERSONAL MY DEAR U AND ME, EVERY BODY IS WORKING FOR THE SAKE OF SNATTA IF SOMEBODY TRY TO PRACTISE HIPPOCRACY THAT WILL NOT TOLERABLE AT ALL. MAY BE SOME PEOPLE ACCEPT IT BUT I AND MY KIND OF PEOPLE NEVER. REGARDS;
shailendra saraswat
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
To: hakam singh <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 10:01:05 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
Dear Shailendra
First of all its my request you to dont mix my genuine operation with ur non genuine fight of Ludhiana SSA.What r u doing for Ludhiana thats up to u but one thing i must wanna to ask you "Mind ur language Mr shailendra""
According to u i m fighting for individual benifit, this shows that how ur thinking is very short.
Its not a individual fight i m fighting for whole cadre beacuse i cant demand for ANY type of AWARD. Management first nominate my name and then delayed my case this is my fight. this time i was the victim next time u and other may the victims instead of me. But one thing very cleard from ur writing that if u were the victim then u will not raise ur voice. Because persons like u cant understand what i want to say.
Secondly My dear friend u r right there may be more cases who will be deserving for Award then my dear friend why their GMs not sent their recommendation to Circle in my case my GM sent my case to circle even the DPC completed it means what i have did he was very well influenced with him. Do u want know the name of GM Mr S.K NIgam ur ex GM.When he in ur SSA they dont ready to solve ur Vehicle problem but when he is in Our SSA he alwys gave priority to vehicles for Broadbands.
Thirdly My dear firend if u have the figures of TTA who will be deserving for AWARD and management first nominate his then nit sending his recommendation and also their work done with projection as i have projecting my work with performas and reports then why r u silent why not u join me for jsutifying their work. Peoples like u always seeing the match not participating for batting, bowling or Fielding but always ready for criticising the batsman that our team lost the match because batsman batting very slowly and played for their Centuary.I am challenging u give the name of TTAs i will fight for them also read my mail of 22 when i raise my voice, before writing anything against to me.
MY DEAR FRIEND DURING MY CAMPS I AM SO MUCH BUSY THAT I HAVE SLEPT FOR ONLY 4-5 HOURS AND THE NOS OF SIMS WAS ACTIVATED AND ALSO REACHARGED BY ME FOR BEST UTILISING THE TIME I HAVE DONE THE BOTH ACTIVITIES BY SITTING IN BUS AND TOILET OF MY HOUSE. AND OUR GM VERY WELL KNOWING THIS AND AT THAT I WAS MORE BUSY THAN CHIEF MINISTER OF PUNJAB.
also if u still not understand then see the progress of BB and other products also.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST NEITHER I AFRAID FORM UR CRITICISM OR MANAGEMENT BEACUSE I M FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE WITH PROOFS IF SNATTA NOT READY THEN I M NOT FORCING HIM I HAVE THE GUTS AND U WILL SEE THE ACTION AND RESULT. THIS FIGHT FOR TTA CADRE NOT FOR AWARD BUT U NEVER UNDERSTAND IT .................
I
WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 6:12 PM
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: shailendra <shailly1979@gmail.com>; SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 11:15:52 AM
Subject: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
dear pal GOLA alias Harjinder singh,
u n ur master hakam singh well known for ur miscreativity and making false charges n u r seems to be well infuenced by him.But if u have at least morality and honest confession gesture than only u could get the genuine
facts n able to understand the game played by your master hakam singh.
firstly u put blame on Ludhiana TTAs that they have done nothing,as u know that the executive district body was dissolved by your worthy hakam singh a long time before ur chargesheet n any other chargesheet matter,for which what u have done???And even u have casted ur vote for the democratically elected body of Ludhiana SSA, HAVE u ANY answer or even ur master hakam ??
-Who is creating such ruckuks n hurdles by just putting up the issues n matters of individual benefit like MR.pritpal singh n hakam singh?
- I have ur signature on the district body meeting held at community hall brs nagar ,Ludhiana along with all other TTAs of ludhiana n u r the first guy to surrender ur moral to hakam singh .I further want to ask u that who was the personn who invite u to that gathering n are u pressurised to attend the meeting and cast ur vote along with 80 other TTas there,ask urself or ur aka hakam singh ??CAN any body done this by his single wit n will?
-Further regarding ur charge sheet ,Do u have the guts to say that what u have done, done rightful? You have a daily visit to Bharat nagar to hakam n sitting in front of his office like a peon i hv the witness for that after 15 to 20 days u have got to pay ur sincere obedience to DISTRICT secrty. BSNLEU MR. balwinder singh in front of mine U have done a SASHTANG DANDVAT to his feet .I was prsent there n this was the way ur master hakam singh was dealing with ur matter at the very next moment i told to BALWINDER singh to sort out the matter earliest and he have committed to do that u was also present there alongwith MR. RAJINDER singh (HINDI OFFICER).
I also want to ask with other so called justice defenders mr.Pritpal singh that what he have done for Ludhiana issue whether he ever tried to call any body or me to know the matter? Now he wants that SNATTA must go for his so called SANCHAR DOOT mission! THESE people like try to solve their
personal issues using this mighty platform like SNATTA. Could he able to say that none other TTA deserving the AWARD or reccommendation or nobody is doing work here in BSNL Punjab?
-TTAs in PUNJAB or all over india except Chandigarh doing the job of BROADBAND outdoor on there own arrangements what the SNATTA Punjab and CHQ done for that despite of this so called award recommendation mission??
I have lot to say n tell their n your mischievios acts but better the way u people ask urself n try to confess that honest confess can cure ur ill deeds and mentality!!!
pls do work for noble n proper causes with right approach to maintain the SNATTA n its virtue.
Appealant
Shailendra Saraswat
Ludhiana
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10. Fw: TTABSNL Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:55 am ((PDT))
Dear Suraj,
Really a very sad story my brother, may God help you !
: Sudesh
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, Suraj Preet <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Suraj Preet <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
To: "TTA GROUPS" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 11:32 AM
To all,
It is to intimate that I Surajpreet Singh T.T.A (outdoor) B.S.N.L, Ropar, Punjab .
I came from Mohali to Ropar daily by bus covers distance of 55 kms. It is very difficult to manage complaints depending upon official vehicle because at the time of complaint the vehicle is busy in managing other factors of Exchange, so I buy a scooter to look after the complaints as I'm in outdoor section. I manage the petrol & maintenance cost of my scooter from my monthly salary only. None of any official gives any kind of T.A / stipend for filling up of fuel. This is my toughest job and around half of my pay I spends upon this which includes bus fair, petrol, maintenance cost.
I don't feel that this is a kind of govt. job. In govt. sector, a person who buys a single tip of a pen got fully charges back including the cost of the distance from where it was buy.
Today around 11 am I had gone to attend a Broadband(B.B) complaint at Sukrampur Tapriya opposite Bhata Sahib Chownk on my scooter. The shop lies on the main G.T road. At the movement I park my scooter near the side of road I move hardly 5 step from my scooter toward that shop where I went for attending B.B complaint a speedy Mohindra Belaro of Registration no. HP-12C-4421 came from Kurali side hit my scooter from back with a powerful impact. I seen that my scooter hip up in the air around 5 to 8 foots and when it land its spin with 3 to 4 rounds with heavy bumps. I was shocked at the movement. A person nearby noticed and note the registration No. of that Mohindra Belaro.
Soon after I called my office and police on 100 number and explained the situation. The police official took 20 minutes to come on that site, but nobody came from my office. I alone handle this situation, even the police official had give me proper courage to come out from this shock. Beside that the main think which was pinched in my heart was that even 4 hrs. of this accident no B.S.N.L official visited me to give a moral support.
Image that if I would have been on the scooter then what would have happened to me. Thank god I'm lucky but not my scooter, it was totally damage. But if that will happen, our department doesn't matter. Nobody cares about anybody. This I have seen only in B.S.N.L
Surajpreet Singh
T.T.A (Outdoor)
Ropar, Punjab
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11a. Re: Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
Posted by: "Shiv(Raja2u)" rajsharma_1960@yahoo.com rajsharma_1960
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:57 am ((PDT))
Hellow Mr. Surajpreetsingh ,
First of all thank God that you are safe . I am also very much shocked to read this . This is very shame action for local BSNL employees and Officers . I am sorry to say that really we are loosing communication and feelings with each other . We should be together and should feel sorrows of each other . I hope that this type incident will never occur to any BSNL employee again .
Thanks .
Shiv Kumar Sharma TTA Pallu ( RSU )
SSA Sri GangaNagar (Raj.)
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Suraj Preet <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Suraj Preet <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Don't proud to be a B.S.N.L employee
To: "TTA GROUPS" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 11:02 PM
To all,
It is to intimate that I Surajpreet Singh T.T.A (outdoor) B.S.N.L, Ropar, Punjab .
I came from Mohali to Ropar daily by bus covers distance of 55 kms. It is very difficult to manage complaints depending upon official vehicle because at the time of complaint the vehicle is busy in managing other factors of Exchange, so I buy a scooter to look after the complaints as I'm in outdoor section. I manage the petrol & maintenance cost of my scooter from my monthly salary only. None of any official gives any kind of T.A / stipend for filling up of fuel. This is my toughest job and around half of my pay I spends upon this which includes bus fair, petrol, maintenance cost.
I don't feel that this is a kind of govt. job. In govt. sector, a person who buys a single tip of a pen got fully charges back including the cost of the distance from where it was buy.
Today around 11 am I had gone to attend a Broadband(B.B) complaint at Sukrampur Tapriya opposite Bhata Sahib Chownk on my scooter. The shop lies on the main G.T road. At the movement I park my scooter near the side of road I move hardly 5 step from my scooter toward that shop where I went for attending B.B complaint a speedy Mohindra Belaro of Registration no. HP-12C-4421 came from Kurali side hit my scooter from back with a powerful impact. I seen that my scooter hip up in the air around 5 to 8 foots and when it land its spin with 3 to 4 rounds with heavy bumps. I was shocked at the movement. A person nearby noticed and note the registration No. of that Mohindra Belaro.
Soon after I called my office and police on 100 number and explained the situation. The police official took 20 minutes to come on that site, but nobody came from my office. I alone handle this situation, even the police official had give me proper courage to come out from this shock. Beside that the main think which was pinched in my heart was that even 4 hrs. of this accident no B.S.N.L official visited me to give a moral support.
Image that if I would have been on the scooter then what would have happened to me. Thank god I'm lucky but not my scooter, it was totally damage. But if that will happen, our department doesn't matter. Nobody cares about anybody. This I have seen only in B.S.N.L
Surajpreet Singh
T.T.A (Outdoor)
Ropar, Punjab
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