Topics in this digest:
1. JTO LICE Stay case : Next hearing on 20th Sept 2010
From: Manish Samadhiya
2a. Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
From: shailendra saraswat
2b. Re: Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
From: Gola Singh
3a. Re: problem regards NIC card
From: Rajendra Choudhary
4a. Re: Out door Wi-Max
From: shailendra saraswat
4b. Re: Out door Wi-Max
From: inderpal singh
5a. Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana t
From: shailendra saraswat
5b. Re: Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhia
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
6.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA
7a. TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: Jasvant Parmar
7b. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7c. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: Jasvant Parmar
7d. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
From: priyanka jadhav
8. MEETING WITH MR P. ABHIMANYU, GS, BSNLEU
From: Deepak Kumar
9. higher studies
From: Geetanjali Pandit
10a. Re: Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
From: sridhar rama
10b. Re: Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
From: M K SAHA
11. Must for TTAs & CHQ Leaders >>> Argue With Your Boss And Win.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
12a. some latest news from www.snatta.org
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
13a. Re: (unknown)
From: sonal mahajan
14. Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding bla
From: shailendra saraswat
15. DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
From: Gola Singh
16. Motive documents
From: M K SAHA
17. Fw: ABOUT Aurora Presto
From: M K SAHA
18. For Kind Attention to Ludhiana Friends
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
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1. JTO LICE Stay case : Next hearing on 20th Sept 2010
Posted by: "Manish Samadhiya" m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in m_samadhiya
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:58 am ((PDT))
Hi,
As per information from Kerala side the next hearing of JTO LICE Stay case is
on 20th sept 2010.
No reply from BSNL Management.
your Manish
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2a. Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:00 am ((PDT))
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in;
snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To,
The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA
As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER
SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason
,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir
petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover
On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a
few ssa’s of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any
single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members
WE however came to know from some of my friends of other ssa and attended the
meeting to discuss regarding such kind of action . Around 35 to 40 TTA’s of
Ludhiana SSA reached the meeting venue without any invitation or formal
notice and showed their deep disconsent in this kind of behavior and urged the
circle representatives to solve the issues first but Hakam singh told us that
this is only a simple meeting and nothing else .But recently it was observed on
SNATTA site that Circle conference was held on that particular day which is
completely false .he also mentioned some objectionable remarks to our CHQ n said
that he has nothing to do with previous wage negotiation n was forced to signed
that by CHQ ,he was trying to convince our new TTA FRIENDS. BY this improper n
false remark what he want to do would he try to support the SNATTA or trying to
blemish on its existance n noble motives ??
i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present
circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA
movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the
punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA
cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab
circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new
circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTA’s who are the
strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of
Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta
Hence CHQ is particularly being requested to intervene in this matter and order
circle representatives to held the circle conference immediately in LUDHIANA so
that before ACM GOA we may also be able to send its actual representatives their
n take poper decision in the total welfare of TTAs.
HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >
Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana
SNATTA
09417545999-01612071503
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2b. Re: Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:22 pm ((PDT))
Dear shalendre,
KINDLY EXPLAIN YOUR WORK DONE FOR WELFARE OF TTA FRIENDS OF LUDHIANA. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE THINGS AS A WELFARE OF TTA OF LUDHIANA.
Harjinder singh,
ssa-ludhiana.
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:41 PM
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in; snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To,
The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA
As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason ,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover
On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a few ssa’s of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members
WE however came to know from some of my friends of other ssa and attended the meeting to discuss regarding such kind of action . Around 35 to 40 TTA’s of Ludhiana SSA reached the meeting venue without any invitation or formal notice and showed their deep disconsent in this kind of behavior and urged the circle representatives to solve the issues first but Hakam singh told us that this is only a simple meeting and nothing else .But recently it was observed on SNATTA site that Circle conference was held on that particular day which is completely false .he also mentioned some objectionable remarks to our CHQ n said that he has nothing to do with previous wage negotiation n was forced to signed that by CHQ ,he was trying to convince our new TTA FRIENDS. BY this improper n false remark what he want to do would he try to support the SNATTA or trying to blemish on its existance n noble motives ??
i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTA’s who are the strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta
Hence CHQ is particularly being requested to intervene in this matter and order circle representatives to held the circle conference immediately in LUDHIANA so that before ACM GOA we may also be able to send its actual representatives their n take poper decision in the total welfare of TTAs.
HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >
Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana SNATTA
09417545999-01612071503
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3a. Re: problem regards NIC card
Posted by: "Rajendra Choudhary" ttabjla@yahoo.in ttabjla
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:00 am ((PDT))
OPERATING SYSTEM IS WIN XP
SID / NID IS PROPERLY DEFINED.
--- On Tue, 17/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL problem regards NIC card
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 4:45 PM
hi,
first of all tell us operating system of the system and whether it is 32 or 64 bit.??
second see the configuration of the NIC whether SID and NID is defined properly.
bandhan preet singh
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Rajendra Choudhary <ttabjla@yahoo.in> wrote:
hi friends
i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
even no order is pending and signal is also ok
please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
from
Rajendra Choudhary
TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
+91 9414857273
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4a. Re: Out door Wi-Max
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:01 am ((PDT))
u may wait for a while n try to use cat 6 cable.u can also change the speed of
lan card from 100mbps to 10mbps
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From: prasad <prasad_rtsh@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 12:55:10 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Out door Wi-Max
I have facing problem in outdoor Wi-max . The LAN shows Unpluged. I have changed
many RJ-45 cable but problem is same.
Ritesh Ranjan Prasad
TTA Kotkhai
Shimla
94591-27134
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4b. Re: Out door Wi-Max
Posted by: "inderpal singh" inderpalece@yahoo.co.in inderpalece
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:13 am ((PDT))
You have to change the LAN speed to 10Mbps or use the CAT-6 cable with good quality connectors.............If you want to use it in N/wking 4 multiple PCs then only option is CAT-6 cable.
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, prasad <prasad_rtsh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: prasad <prasad_rtsh@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Out door Wi-Max
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 12:55 PM
I have facing problem in outdoor Wi-max . The LAN shows Unpluged. I have changed many RJ-45 cable but problem is same.
Ritesh Ranjan Prasad
TTA Kotkhai
Shimla
94591-27134
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5a. Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana t
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:09 am ((PDT))
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: shailendra <shailly1979@gmail.com>; SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 11:15:52 AM
Subject: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
dear pal GOLA alias Harjinder singh,
u n ur master hakam singh well known for ur miscreativity and making false
charges n u r seems to be well infuenced by him.But if u have at least morality
and honest confession gesture than only u could get the genuine
facts n able to understand the game played by your master hakam singh.
firstly u put blame on Ludhiana TTAs that they have done nothing,as u know that
the executive district body was dissolved by your worthy hakam singh a long time
before ur chargesheet n any other chargesheet matter,for which what u have
done???And even u have casted ur vote for the democratically elected body of
Ludhiana SSA, HAVE u ANY answer or even ur master hakam ??
-Who is creating such ruckuks n hurdles by just putting up the issues n matters
of individual benefit like MR.pritpal singh n hakam singh?
- I have ur signature on the district body meeting held at community hall brs
nagar ,Ludhiana along with all other TTAs of ludhiana n u r the first guy to
surrender ur moral to hakam singh .I further want to ask u that who was the
personn who invite u to that gathering n are u pressurised to attend the meeting
and cast ur vote along with 80 other TTas there,ask urself or ur aka hakam singh
??CAN any body done this by his single wit n will?
-Further regarding ur charge sheet ,Do u have the guts to say that what u have
done, done rightful? You have a daily visit to Bharat nagar to hakam n sitting
in front of his office like a peon i hv the witness for that after 15 to 20 days
u have got to pay ur sincere obedience to DISTRICT secrty. BSNLEU MR. balwinder
singh in front of mine U have done a SASHTANG DANDVAT to his feet .I was prsent
there n this was the way ur master hakam singh was dealing with ur matter at the
very next moment i told to BALWINDER singh to sort out the matter earliest and
he have committed to do that u was also present there alongwith MR. RAJINDER
singh (HINDI OFFICER).
I also want to ask with other so called justice defenders mr.Pritpal singh that
what he have done for Ludhiana issue whether he ever tried to call any body or
me to know the matter? Now he wants that SNATTA must go for his so called
SANCHAR DOOT mission! THESE people like try to solve their
personal issues using this mighty platform like SNATTA. Could he able to say
that none other TTA deserving the AWARD or reccommendation or nobody is doing
work here in BSNL Punjab?
-TTAs in PUNJAB or all over india except Chandigarh doing the job of BROADBAND
outdoor on there own arrangements what the SNATTA Punjab and CHQ done for that
despite of this so called award recommendation mission??
I have lot to say n tell their n your mischievios acts but better the way u
people ask urself n try to confess that honest confess can cure ur ill deeds and
mentality!!!
pls do work for noble n proper causes with right approach to maintain the SNATTA
n its virtue.
Appealant
Shailendra Saraswat
Ludhiana
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5b. Re: Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhia
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:24 pm ((PDT))
Dear Shailendra
First of all its my request you to dont mix my genuine operation with ur non genuine fight of Ludhiana SSA.What r u doing for Ludhiana thats up to u but one thing i must wanna to ask you "Mind ur language Mr shailendra""
According to u i m fighting for individual benifit, this shows that how ur thinking is very short.
Its not a individual fight i m fighting for whole cadre beacuse i cant demand for ANY type of AWARD. Management first nominate my name and then delayed my case this is my fight. this time i was the victim next time u and other may the victims instead of me. But one thing very cleard from ur writing that if u were the victim then u will not raise ur voice. Because persons like u cant understand what i want to say.
Secondly My dear friend u r right there may be more cases who will be deserving for Award then my dear friend why their GMs not sent their recommendation to Circle in my case my GM sent my case to circle even the DPC completed it means what i have did he was very well influenced with him. Do u want know the name of GM Mr S.K NIgam ur ex GM.When he in ur SSA they dont ready to solve ur Vehicle problem but when he is in Our SSA he alwys gave priority to vehicles for Broadbands.
Thirdly My dear firend if u have the figures of TTA who will be deserving for AWARD and management first nominate his then nit sending his recommendation and also their work done with projection as i have projecting my work with performas and reports then why r u silent why not u join me for jsutifying their work. Peoples like u always seeing the match not participating for batting, bowling or Fielding but always ready for criticising the batsman that our team lost the match because batsman batting very slowly and played for their Centuary.I am challenging u give the name of TTAs i will fight for them also read my mail of 22 when i raise my voice, before writing anything against to me.
MY DEAR FRIEND DURING MY CAMPS I AM SO MUCH BUSY THAT I HAVE SLEPT FOR ONLY 4-5 HOURS AND THE NOS OF SIMS WAS ACTIVATED AND ALSO REACHARGED BY ME FOR BEST UTILISING THE TIME I HAVE DONE THE BOTH ACTIVITIES BY SITTING IN BUS AND TOILET OF MY HOUSE. AND OUR GM VERY WELL KNOWING THIS AND AT THAT I WAS MORE BUSY THAN CHIEF MINISTER OF PUNJAB.
also if u still not understand then see the progress of BB and other products also.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST NEITHER I AFRAID FORM UR CRITICISM OR MANAGEMENT BEACUSE I M FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE WITH PROOFS IF SNATTA NOT READY THEN I M NOT FORCING HIM I HAVE THE GUTS AND U WILL SEE THE ACTION AND RESULT. THIS FIGHT FOR TTA CADRE NOT FOR AWARD BUT U NEVER UNDERSTAND IT .................
I
WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 6:12 PM
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: shailendra <shailly1979@gmail.com>; SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 11:15:52 AM
Subject: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
dear pal GOLA alias Harjinder singh,
u n ur master hakam singh well known for ur miscreativity and making false charges n u r seems to be well infuenced by him.But if u have at least morality and honest confession gesture than only u could get the genuine
facts n able to understand the game played by your master hakam singh.
firstly u put blame on Ludhiana TTAs that they have done nothing,as u know that the executive district body was dissolved by your worthy hakam singh a long time before ur chargesheet n any other chargesheet matter,for which what u have done???And even u have casted ur vote for the democratically elected body of Ludhiana SSA, HAVE u ANY answer or even ur master hakam ??
-Who is creating such ruckuks n hurdles by just putting up the issues n matters of individual benefit like MR.pritpal singh n hakam singh?
- I have ur signature on the district body meeting held at community hall brs nagar ,Ludhiana along with all other TTAs of ludhiana n u r the first guy to surrender ur moral to hakam singh .I further want to ask u that who was the personn who invite u to that gathering n are u pressurised to attend the meeting and cast ur vote along with 80 other TTas there,ask urself or ur aka hakam singh ??CAN any body done this by his single wit n will?
-Further regarding ur charge sheet ,Do u have the guts to say that what u have done, done rightful? You have a daily visit to Bharat nagar to hakam n sitting in front of his office like a peon i hv the witness for that after 15 to 20 days u have got to pay ur sincere obedience to DISTRICT secrty. BSNLEU MR. balwinder singh in front of mine U have done a SASHTANG DANDVAT to his feet .I was prsent there n this was the way ur master hakam singh was dealing with ur matter at the very next moment i told to BALWINDER singh to sort out the matter earliest and he have committed to do that u was also present there alongwith MR. RAJINDER singh (HINDI OFFICER).
I also want to ask with other so called justice defenders mr.Pritpal singh that what he have done for Ludhiana issue whether he ever tried to call any body or me to know the matter? Now he wants that SNATTA must go for his so called SANCHAR DOOT mission! THESE people like try to solve their
personal issues using this mighty platform like SNATTA. Could he able to say that none other TTA deserving the AWARD or reccommendation or nobody is doing work here in BSNL Punjab?
-TTAs in PUNJAB or all over india except Chandigarh doing the job of BROADBAND outdoor on there own arrangements what the SNATTA Punjab and CHQ done for that despite of this so called award recommendation mission??
I have lot to say n tell their n your mischievios acts but better the way u people ask urself n try to confess that honest confess can cure ur ill deeds and mentality!!!
pls do work for noble n proper causes with right approach to maintain the SNATTA n its virtue.
Appealant
Shailendra Saraswat
Ludhiana
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6.1. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:31 am ((PDT))
Dear All,
it was certainly a very well thought and an eye opener post as what we have
achieved and what we could have achieved since the formation of SNATTA.
I also personally feel that the court cases and the subsequent judgments are
going to take us nowhere,number one-the legal machinery is time consuming and
breadth taking we all would agree.number two-the judgments are too vague and one
is left with own wisdom to interpret it.The court said the diverted personnel
should be reverted back and the post should be restored but this left BSNL clue
less as how this can be done when they actually have taken charge as JTOs and
many have even been promoted to higher cadres.Yes they can be reverted back
outright but this will again cause a rippling chain of court cases we never
know.
But mind all I am/was not against SNATTAs court case to restore the diverted
post.This is and was our most revered achievement so far that truly took us to
new high and got us the respect from the adversaries.
I am just saying that we did this we did that but we still are TTAs and would
remain for some time I think because some or the other feel that they have the
right on post of JTO and they approach court and the court gives a stay.And BSNL
also is in no mood to vacate the stay.
So in this case we should look for some greener pastures beyond the premises of
court and see if there is some middle path.
And what Anand has suggested has certainly something to be given a deep thought
by all.
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
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From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 12:26:55 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am
sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda
of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible.
Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable.
But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough
weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of
new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some
thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that
figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be
very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top
posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince
the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a
win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs
.BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered
against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit
list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union
(NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these
left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before
regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of
JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but
correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to
fill up the vacancies fast.
　
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are
waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list.
Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG
163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against
2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed
batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly
differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :
* OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
* We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of
following demands.
* Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
* BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now
only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if
RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the
vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample
vacancies will be unfilled.
* Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down
eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as
2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
* LICE should be conducted regularly.
* Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed
AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like
we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain
7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain
support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and
BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a
very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this
. We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to
explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I
hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
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7a. TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:32 am ((PDT))
HI
DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page can not be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this type of fault?????
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
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7b. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:59 am ((PDT))
hi.
ping the website like this
ping www.google.com
and see the results.
r u using bridge or pppoe.?
pls tell all details like operating system and modem make etc..??
Anybody whoever asks question in this forum pls tell all details alongwith
ur question.
*bandhan preet singh*
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> *HI *
> * DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page
> can not be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this
> type of fault?????*
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7c. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:21 pm ((PDT))
To
Bandhanji
OS XP,PPP mode,Modem UTSTARCOM..My Problem is sometime opens all website(for 20 seconds)...and sometime it opens for long time i.e for through out day...
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:40 PM
hi.
ping the website like this
ping www.google.com
and see the results.
r u using bridge or pppoe.?
pls tell all details like operating system and modem make etc..??
Anybody whoever asks question in this forum pls tell all details alongwith ur question.
bandhan preet singh
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com> wrote:
HI
DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page can not be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this type of fault?????
Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7d. Re: TO BROADBAND ENGINEERS
Posted by: "priyanka jadhav" priyanka.jadhav5@gmail.com priyanka.jadhav89
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:26 pm ((PDT))
this might be a line fault
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> *HI *
> * DNS ping continuously getting..But website not continously open..Page
> can not be displayed..Also LAN ping ok...have anybody suffered from this
> type of fault?????*
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
>
--
priyakshay
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8. MEETING WITH MR P. ABHIMANYU, GS, BSNLEU
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:36 am ((PDT))
The circle executive committee meeting of BSNLEU, Bihar Circle held on
17.08.2010(yesterday) at SARAOGI ATITHI SADAN, Kishanganj, Bihar. Apart from
circle leaders of BSNLEU Mr P Abhimanyu, GS, BSNLEU and Mr Swapan Chakroborty,
AGS, BSNLEU were also present. The CGMT bihar circle Mr Vijay Kumar addressed
the Open Session.
Although I attended this meeting, but I think I have missed a good chance to
represent our case with well drafted letters on that platform due to
my hectic departmental assignments prior to this. I did not get any type of help
in this regards from my circle friends too.
The meeting was focussed on the forthcoming elections in 2011.
In my speech , i raised the following points-
1. Loss of pay to new recruits. I emphasized on fitments as in the case of
Tamilnadu Govt.
2.Free mobile connections to TTAs and non-executives in Bihar as in HP and AP. I
handed over the printed orders from these circles.
3.EPF problems.
4. Early LICE for JTO. For this I said that there is a need of negotiation among
SNATTA, OJTOs and BSNLEU. I appealed that the court cases will not get the
desired results to anyone. Best way is negotiation as OJTOs are also facing
genuine problems so BSNLEU should step in and take steps to safe guard the
interest of all.
5. Llaziness of management in sending nominations for SANCHAR AWARDS in various
SSAs in Bihar.
During my speech GS Mr Abhimanyu had not reached the venue. But after his
arrival Mr Swapan Chakraborty, AGS apprised him the points raised by me.
While GS was addressing the meeting he said that we had a good wage revision and
he saw his pay increased by Rs7000. On this I instantly forwarded a slip writing
"WHAT ABOUT THE LOSS OF PAY TO THE EMPLOYEES RECRUITED ON OR AFTER 01.01.2007"
After reading the slip what he said is recorded in my mobile and here I am
trying to reproduce his word here as he addressed in HIS Hindi please read full
jo log 31.12.2006 tak service me the ye sirf ve logon ka wage revision hai. jo
01.01.207 ya usake baad appointment mila unka wage revision nahin hai. lekin
isme kya galti hui? jin logon ka appointment 01.01.2007 ke baad mila ve logon ko
bhi galti se 50% IDA merger de diya. salary advance bhi de diya, lekin unka wage
revision nahin hua. abhi central govt me kya hua jo 01.01.06 se wage revision
mila matlab jo 31.12.05 koun koun service me the sirf we logon ko wage revision
hai. isi vajah se problem hua. phir bhi hum ek principle ko maante hain. jo wage
kal mila kal tak mil raha tha aaj usse kam nahin milna chahiye. us principle ko
main maanta hun. isliye jab wage revision hua wage revision ka baatchit hua to
us samay me hum ko maloom hai ye logon ka wage kam hoga. isliye management se
discuss kiya ye sab logon ko fitment benifit dene ke liye management mana kar
diya. wage revision me kaafi delayed hone ke vakah se logon ko bahut naaraz
hua, gaali bhi de rahe the hamare union neta logon ko. hamare upar kafi dabab
tha uske vajah se kuchh na kuchh jaldi karne ka jaroorat the. isliye humne kiya.
bahut discuss hua. management ek cheese ke liye taiyar hua. kya cheez ke liye?
jo log 01.01.07 se baad appointment hua agar ve logon ko wage differences hoga
to usko personal pay ke roop me compensation milega. iska matlab kisi ko wage
kam nahin hoga. lekin jab order nikale to point ko aisa kiya ki on the date of
entry, isliye jo lodon ko date of increment wage revision ke pahle tha ve logon
kopersonal pay mila. lekin kai logon ko appointment ke 4 mahine 5 mahine ke baad
pay difference hua uska personal pay nahin mila. ye to bada mudda hai. is par
31.8.2010 ko NCM hoga usme isko discuss karenge.
hum ye bhi maang kar rahe hain Tamilnaadu govt jo wage revision kiya jis tarah
se jo logon ko wage revision hua ve logon ke liye bhi fitments diya, hamara
maang ye hai ki jo order Tamilnadu Govt implement kiya vahi BSNL me bhi
implement karo. isko karne ke liye NCM me koshish karenge.
Our friend Mr Madhuranjan Jha, DS, SNATTA, Bhagalpur escorted the GS from
airport and had detailed discussion on various issues especially on JTO LICE
with him for nearly two hours.During this discussions the GS said that the
reduction in the qualifying service conditions from 7 years to 5years is
his challenge and he will see that it is done.
While chatting during lunch hour with me he said that this 10 or 7 year
condition is due to Mr. S C Mishra now member services as he said we need
skilled man power for longer. If it is 3 or 5 years then people come and become
JTO and there will be always shortage of staff at this level. on this i said
that in this condition BSNL will not get quality manpower and it will get filled
with kachra from the market as any qualified and skilled person always looks for
career up gradation. From the First batch of TTAs there are majority of well
qualified B Tech engineers, they will not come at this level now if u not
attract them with good future. On this he said that this is the good point and
genuine too.
Lastly he assured us of our better future and said that look on for the next
NCM.
deepak kumar
9431610399
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9. higher studies
Posted by: "Geetanjali Pandit" geetanjalipanditbsnl@yahoo.com geetanjalipanditbsnl
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:37 am ((PDT))
hello to all.
i have joined BSNL on 19th October 2009.Dat time i finished 4 semesters of
B.tech and 4 semesters are left.earlier i hav done diploma engg also.now i want
to complete them.but i m finding no way to complete it.i m asking for
extraordinary leave.still no use.plz suggest.i want leave rules of bsnl or any
PSU.
thanx
regards
geetanjali pandit
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10a. Re: Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
Posted by: "sridhar rama" sri_wgl007@yahoo.co.in sri_wgl007
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:38 am ((PDT))
hi,
We bb-people in our ssa, dont know about that, Please can anybody tell how to utilise it.
bye.
Sridhar,TTA
wgl ssa, AP
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 11:13 AM
Hi all!
We the people working in Broadband section in field, how many of us take help of Aurora Presto, the ADSL Tester. It was supplied by UTSTAR COM to all over India. This is very useful to check the line parameters etc, in outdoor like DP, Pillar or cabinet, where no power supply or Laptop is required. It is not required for day-to-day operation, but to solve critical fault this is just great. It operates in Battery, has got a built in Modem etc.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229
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10b. Re: Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:23 pm ((PDT))
here is some documents, but over email it is not possible to explain. it has to
be face to face.
The user manual I have kept somewhere. I will try to find and upload it.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
________________________________
From: sridhar rama <sri_wgl007@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 3:13:37 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
hi,
We bb-people in our ssa, dont know about that, Please can anybody tell how to
utilise it.
bye.
Sridhar,TTA
wgl ssa, AP
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com>
>Subject: TTABSNL Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
>To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 11:13 AM
>
>
>
>Hi all!
> We the people working in Broadband section in field, how many of us take
>help of Aurora Presto, the ADSL Tester. It was supplied by UTSTAR COM to all
>over India. This is very useful to check the line parameters etc, in outdoor
>like DP, Pillar or cabinet, where no power supply or Laptop is required. It is
>not required for day-to-day operation, but to solve critical fault this is just
>great. It operates in Battery, has got a built in Modem etc.
>
>mANAs kUMAr sAHa
>TTA
>NIB Node
>Siliguri
>West Bengal
>(0)94343-09229
>
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dsl presentation.pps
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11. Must for TTAs & CHQ Leaders >>> Argue With Your Boss And Win.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:01 am ((PDT))
*hi friends,*
*Dear CHQ Leaders, pls pay attention to the below article, its really a
delight to read.*
*there is a great article for all of us pls read it fully, it might help us
in any way.*
Apple's people told Steve Jobs the new iPhone had antenna problems that
needed fixing. They didn't get through, though, and as a result Apple
brought a faulty product to market. It's hard to disagree with the boss,
especially a hard-driving, charismatic one like Jobs. But it's part of a
manager's responsibility to push back against a decision, a plan or a
directive that's faulty. *Here's how you can argue successfully with the
boss--and live to tell about it. *
*Take these three steps.*
1. *Get all the facts.* Is the boss's decision really boneheaded? Maybe
there are reasons for it that you don't understand. The company's strategy
could be shifting in response to competitors' moves, a pending cash crunch,
a regulatory problem, M&A activity, or other conditions not yet apparent to
you. *It's possible that the boss understands there will be problems but
feels that from a big-picture perspective the plan makes sense.*
You'll encourage an open discussion about the decision if you *listen
respectfully as the boss announces* it rather than reflexively arguing
against it or, worse, disagreeing in public or losing your temper. Ask for
"background" about the plan, not a "rationale" for it, which can sound
confrontational. *Learn what it's meant to achieve*. Learn in what ways the
decision is based on solid evidence, and in what ways on assumptions. Ask
open-ended questions about the effect it will have on staff, the supply
chain, finances, the company's reputation and so on.
Tell the boss you agree with his objectives, or you agree that change is
needed, or that there are parts of the plan that sound really good to you.
Ask for permission to study it and discuss it later. Schedule a meeting.
*Gather all the intelligence that's available so you can develop an
alternate plan that achieves the original decision's objectives but avoids
its problems.*
2. *Develop your plan.* Don't let your disappointment about the decision
make you feel you have to start from scratch. Identify what's good about the
boss's plan. Try to retain those parts, not only because they're right but
also to give the boss some ownership of your version. Get creative. *Think
about all the other ways the expected goals could be reached.* You can begin
by picturing an ideal solution and thinking forward to see what would be
needed to make it work.
*Mine your network for ideas*. *Ask people across the company how they can
add value to your proposition*. Suppliers can be especially useful to talk
with, since they may have processes that can help. As you talk with others,
make it clear that you're looking for the best way to make the boss's plan
work, not trying to supplant it with your own.
Test your plan with trusted advisors. They may identify flaws you don't see.
Maybe your plan won't generate revenue quickly enough. Maybe it relies on
resources that are no longer available. Your advisors can help you make the
process you're proposing faster, cheaper and even more effective. They also
can tell you if it will threaten someone who might try to block it. Working
with them, you can find ways to get that person's support.
Think about the boss's personal motivators as well. Maybe he's playing it
safe because of a pending retirement, or maybe he's accepting some risk to
earn a huge bonus. *You can't get into someone else's mind, but you can try
to get into the boss's shoes, to look at the plan from his
perspective.*(While you're at it, examine your own motives: Are you
against the plan
because it hurts you in some way? Because you weren't consulted? Because the
boss is a dork who couldn't have any good ideas?)
3. *Present your plan*. *Anticipate what questions the boss may ask about
your plan, and prepare concise, persuasive answers to them. Prepare a
written summary that you'll leave behind. Present your plan with confidence
and enthusiasm, because if you don't show you believe in it, the boss won't
either.*
Begin by describing the plan's payoffs, and then go into details of its
implementation. *Don't burden the boss with too much detail, though, unless
you're asked for it.* Once the boss is satisfied with your answer to a
question, stop explaining and move on with your presentation. *Avoid
digressing from your main message or mentioning other people's criticisms of
the boss's plan.*
*Choose your words carefully*. *When discussing the original plan, never use
the word "disagree."* That might get the boss's back up. Even a "but" might
infer you're negating what the boss says. Present "recommendations" or
"suggestions," not the "conclusion" you reached about what's needed, which
would sound pompous.
*Despite your best efforts, the boss may insist that you carry out the
original plan. If that happens, the best solution may be to get approval to
do so on a test basis.* Be sure you make it an honest test, not one intended
to showcase the plan's weaknesses. Document every step. Let staff members
who don't have an interest in the results help you make your evaluation.
Cite their participation when you report the results.
What can you do if the boss remains unpersuaded? Come to the meeting
prepared for that possibility. If the plan violates law or compromises
ethics, you may choose to refuse and accept the consequences. Absent those
kinds of problems, though, you can agree to move ahead and feel good about
it because *you've met your obligation to make a strong case against the
decision.* Be sure the boss understands that you're ready to move forward
with dedication and enthusiasm.
*At some point every manager has to argue with the boss. Whether or not
you're successful, the challenge can provide a payoff. **You get to
demonstrate leadership, **creativity, **an ability to negotiate and deep
concern for the well being of both your boss and the company.*
*-- *
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
*
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"*
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12a. some latest news from www.snatta.org
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:12 am ((PDT))
* Dt 18-08-2010It has been decided that the Circle who would be depositing
delegate fees up to 31-08-2010 will be extended stay/boarding facilities and
the remaining circles will have to make their own stay arrangements. In
their case they will have to deposit `300 as delegate fees per member. *
* The members who are coming along with their families will also be required
to pay `300 as delegate fees and for their stay at GOA they are suppose to
be in contact with the Maharashtra Circle Team.*
* Those Circles who have not conducted Circle Conference atleast once after
IVth membership verification are instructed to complete their Circle
Conference well in time before the AIC at GOA.*
* Dt 18-08-2010Circle Conference of M.P. SNATTA notified on 29-Aug-2010. Click
here. <http://snatta.org/news/snatta_cc%5B1%5D.doc>*
* Dt 18-08-2010A grand District Executive Committee meeting of Varanasi SSA,
UP (E) was held on 15.08.2010. Click
Here<http://snatta.org/news/meeting%20varanasi.doc>
*
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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13a. Re: (unknown)
Posted by: "sonal mahajan" annu_mahajan@yahoo.com annu_mahajan
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:20 pm ((PDT))
hi santosh,
use ZTE WIRELESS TERMINAL software for installing NIC on Win7
Sonal
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL (unknown)
To: "TTA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:46 PM
Dear frnds,
I anyone has drivers of HUAWEI NIC card for windows 7 pls arrange to upload.
regards,
Santosh J. Devadiga.
CDMA MSC Nasik.
9422268970
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14. Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding bla
Posted by: "shailendra saraswat" shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in shailendrasaraswat
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:21 pm ((PDT))
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
To: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 10:46:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim
on ludhiana ttas
dear pritpal,
THANKS FOR UR PROMPT ACTION AS EXPECTED FOR MY MAIL IN GROUP WRITTEN FOR
HARJINDER SINGH ALIAS "GOLA"
now u feel the same what i feel for my or TTA cause i must say that u must mind
ur language before commenting on any issue about which u even dont know any
thing or dont ever tried to understand the problem. as much as u r trying to
solve the case of so called injustice by CGM or any body else other than ur SSA
,the same voice of justice n proper cause i have raised here in ludhiana in very
proper n decorative manner in last year u can see my mail n resignation on the
circle cordinators mail and if u can u will get the detail of matter very clear
and concluded.This was not done by CGM or anybody else but by our circle
coodinator and circle secrty .Further every body here is victim of management
in ur words the reason is different but in my opinion we must see our home
first.Have u ever tried to know that why there is no district body till date in
ludhiana despite having all the news in ur notice in the home ssa of our circle
secrty? Why Mr hakam singh is not supported by the local TTAs here despite he is
a RCM,LCM,CC,So called defender and fighter for good causes ? How can all the
TTas of SSA could be influenced by a single miscreant? In this reference Mr.
Balwant Dhindsa TTA raikot also wrote a mail to our leaders WHO is the newcomer
in Ludhiana n that mail never came to our group to save the skin of culprits ?
So have the guts to say right thing and dnt believe on any body blindly go
through facts ,this is because that u have made some comments on the
instructions of somebody in ur previous mails on me and the ingenuinity of
Ludhiana TTAs problem!!! YOU are nobody to decide the seriousness of the
other's matter if u feel that u r right on ur point then other may also.Tell
those buddies to conduct the circle confrence in democratic way n let the people
decide that what they desreve they get, there is no question of doubt?? So pls
go through my mail cool n calm i can also write to u this personaly , but let
the people feel the same problem .
HERE NOTHING IS PERSONAL MY DEAR U AND ME, EVERY BODY IS WORKING FOR THE SAKE OF
SNATTA IF SOMEBODY TRY TO PRACTISE HIPPOCRACY THAT WILL NOT TOLERABLE AT ALL.
MAY BE SOME PEOPLE ACCEPT IT BUT I AND MY KIND OF PEOPLE NEVER.
REGARDS;
shailendra saraswat
________________________________
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
To: hakam singh <circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com>;
shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 10:01:05 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim
on ludhiana ttas
Dear Shailendra
>
>First of all its my request you to dont mix my genuine operation with ur non
>genuine fight of Ludhiana SSA.What r u doing for Ludhiana thats up to u but one
>thing i must wanna to ask you "Mind ur language Mr shailendra""
> According to u i m fighting for individual benifit, this shows that how ur
>thinking is very short.
>Its not a individual fight i m fighting for whole cadre beacuse i cant demand
>for ANY type of AWARD. Management first nominate my name and then delayed my
>case this is my fight. this time i was the victim next time u and other may the
>victims instead of me. But one thing very cleard from ur writing that if u were
>the victim then u will not raise ur voice. Because persons like u cant
>understand what i want to say.
>
>Secondly My dear friend u r right there may be more cases who will be deserving
>for Award then my dear friend why their GMs not sent their recommendation to
>Circle in my case my GM sent my case to circle even the DPC completed it means
>what i have did he was very well influenced with him. Do u want know the name of
>GM Mr S.K NIgam ur ex GM.When he in ur SSA they dont ready to solve ur Vehicle
>problem but when he is in Our SSA he alwys gave priority to vehicles for
>Broadbands.
>
>
>Thirdly My dear firend if u have the figures of TTA who will be deserving for
>AWARD and management first nominate his then nit sending his recommendation and
>also their work done with projection as i have projecting my work with performas
>and reports then why r u silent why not u join me for jsutifying their work.
>Peoples like u always seeing the match not participating for batting, bowling or
>Fielding but always ready for criticising the batsman that our team lost the
>match because batsman batting very slowly and played for their Centuary.I am
>challenging u give the name of TTAs i will fight for them also read my mail of
>22 when i raise my voice, before writing anything against to me.
>
>MY DEAR FRIEND DURING MY CAMPS I AM SO MUCH BUSY THAT I HAVE SLEPT FOR ONLY 4-5
>HOURS AND THE NOS OF SIMS WAS ACTIVATED AND ALSO REACHARGED BY ME FOR BEST
>UTILISING THE TIME I HAVE DONE THE BOTH ACTIVITIES BY SITTING IN BUS AND TOILET
>OF MY HOUSE. AND OUR GM VERY WELL KNOWING THIS AND AT THAT I WAS MORE BUSY THAN
>CHIEF MINISTER OF PUNJAB.
>also if u still not understand then see the progress of BB and other products
>also.
>
>
>AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST NEITHER I AFRAID FORM UR CRITICISM OR MANAGEMENT BEACUSE
>I M FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE WITH PROOFS IF SNATTA NOT READY THEN I M NOT FORCING
>HIM I HAVE THE GUTS AND U WILL SEE THE ACTION AND RESULT. THIS FIGHT FOR TTA
>CADRE NOT FOR AWARD BUT U NEVER UNDERSTAND IT .................
>
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>
>
> I
>
> WITH REGARDS
> Er.PRITPAL SINGH
> DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
> LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
> PUNJAB 09417073556
>
>
>preet
>
>
>
>--- On Wed, 18/8/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
wrote:
>
>
>>From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: TTABSNL Fw: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on
>>ludhiana ttas
>>To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 6:12 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>----- Forwarded Message ----
>>From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Cc: shailendra <shailly1979@gmail.com>; SNATTA <snattachq@gmail.com>
>>Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 11:15:52 AM
>>Subject: reply of harjinder singh GOLA mail regrding blaim on ludhiana ttas
>>
>>
>>dear pal GOLA alias Harjinder singh,
>>u n ur master hakam singh well known for ur miscreativity and making false
>>charges n u r seems to be well infuenced by him.But if u have at least morality
>>and honest confession gesture than only u could get the genuine
>>facts n able to understand the game played by your master hakam singh.
>>firstly u put blame on Ludhiana TTAs that they have done nothing,as u know that
>>the executive district body was dissolved by your worthy hakam singh a long time
>>before ur chargesheet n any other chargesheet matter,for which what u have
>>done???And even u have casted ur vote for the democratically elected body of
>>Ludhiana SSA, HAVE u ANY answer or even ur master hakam ??
>>-Who is creating such ruckuks n hurdles by just putting up the issues n matters
>>of individual benefit like MR.pritpal singh n hakam singh?
>>- I have ur signature on the district body meeting held at community hall brs
>>nagar ,Ludhiana along with all other TTAs of ludhiana n u r the first guy to
>>surrender ur moral to hakam singh .I further want to ask u that who was the
>>personn who invite u to that gathering n are u pressurised to attend the meeting
>>and cast ur vote along with 80 other TTas there,ask urself or ur aka hakam singh
>> ??CAN any body done this by his single wit n will?
>>-Further regarding ur charge sheet ,Do u have the guts to say that what u have
>>done, done rightful? You have a daily visit to Bharat nagar to hakam n sitting
>>in front of his office like a peon i hv the witness for that after 15 to 20 days
>>u have got to pay ur sincere obedience to DISTRICT secrty. BSNLEU MR. balwinder
>>singh in front of mine U have done a SASHTANG DANDVAT to his feet .I was prsent
>>there n this was the way ur master hakam singh was dealing with ur matter at the
>>very next moment i told to BALWINDER singh to sort out the matter earliest and
>>he have committed to do that u was also present there alongwith MR. RAJINDER
>>singh (HINDI OFFICER).
>> I also want to ask with other so called justice defenders mr.Pritpal singh that
>>what he have done for Ludhiana issue whether he ever tried to call any body or
>>me to know the matter? Now he wants that SNATTA must go for his so called
>>SANCHAR DOOT mission! THESE people like try to solve their
>>personal issues using this mighty platform like SNATTA. Could he able to say
>>that none other TTA deserving the AWARD or reccommendation or nobody is doing
>>work here in BSNL Punjab?
>>-TTAs in PUNJAB or all over india except Chandigarh doing the job of BROADBAND
>>outdoor on there own arrangements what the SNATTA Punjab and CHQ done for that
>>despite of this so called award recommendation mission??
>>I have lot to say n tell their n your mischievios acts but better the way u
>>people ask urself n try to confess that honest confess can cure ur ill deeds and
>>mentality!!!
>>pls do work for noble n proper causes with right approach to maintain the SNATTA
>>n its virtue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Appealant
>>
>> Shailendra Saraswat
>>
>> Ludhiana
>>
>>
>>
>
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15. DEMAND BY SOME BODY ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE .
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:22 pm ((PDT))
Dear EX-DS Ludhiana,
Yes , i fully understnad your demand for dissolution of circle body & the base you have given for dissulution is given below--
1. Hakam & Tejinder are DICTATORs only.
2. You & some ttas dont like him for no reasons.
Above are the clear reason for YOUR CAUSE FOR DISSOLUTION ONLY.
Now it is my questions to all tta friends that WHTHER IS A SUFFICIENT REASON TO dissolve circle body ? kindly think on this ill-logical demand of shalender.
From the last two years your contribution to snatta ludhiana is well know to all.
some a few queries from you-----
1. Have you attended meeting at delhi in last - september for 10 to 7 years reduction ?
answer is NO .
2. Have you attended meeting at residence of com. namboodiri for 2 YEARS RELAXATION FOR JTO-EXAM.
answer is NO.
3. Have you attended AIC-GOA at bhopal ?
answer is NO.
4. Have you attended any meeting of SNATTA EVER AT ANY PLACE ?
answer is NO .
5. Have you attended AIC-Hyderabad ?
answer is NO.
6. Have you atteneded ANY DHARNAS & DEMONSTRATIONS call by UNITED FORUM on behalf of ludhiana.
answer is NO.
7. FOR MANY MORE QUESTIONS , YOU HAVE MANY MORE NOs.
SO IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN GROUND YOUR SCORE IS ZEROS, BUT ON BASE OF LIP SERVICE YOU ARE VERY EXCELLENT.
Request to all & all chq leadres & all cc , PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY CONCLUSION ON A BASE OF LIP SERVICE OF SHALENDER , KINDLY LOOK HIS SERVICE FOR SNATTA IN GROUND.
Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shailendra saraswat <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Fw: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:41 PM
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shailendra saraswat <shailly1979@gmail.com>
To: shailly_1979@hotmail.com; shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in; snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: snattaupwest@gmail.com; snattaupeast@gmail.com; snattamaharastra@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:17:26 PM
Subject: Request to CHQ TO save THE unity n faith of TTAs in SNATTA.
To,
The CHQ/ general secretrary SNATTA
As u already know that previously Our so called CS Hakam singh n CC TEJINDER SINGH has dissolved the district body at Ludhiana SSA without any valid reason ,only to destabilize the existence of SNATTA at grass root level to quench teir petty ego n damn foolishness dues. moreover
On Last Sunday Hakam singh secretly called a meeting of district bearers of a few ssa’s of his own choice in a short time of notice, without informing any single tta of Ludhiana and especially the Ex district body members
WE however came to know from some of my friends of other ssa and attended the meeting to discuss regarding such kind of action . Around 35 to 40 TTA’s of Ludhiana SSA reached the meeting venue without any invitation or formal notice and showed their deep disconsent in this kind of behavior and urged the circle representatives to solve the issues first but Hakam singh told us that this is only a simple meeting and nothing else .But recently it was observed on SNATTA site that Circle conference was held on that particular day which is completely false .he also mentioned some objectionable remarks to our CHQ n said that he has nothing to do with previous wage negotiation n was forced to signed that by CHQ ,he was trying to convince our new TTA FRIENDS. BY this improper n false remark what he want to do would he try to support the SNATTA or trying to blemish on its existance n noble motives ??
i have an strong n honest urge along with my SSA TTA friends that the present circle body must be dissolve n fresh team may form to took charge of the SNATTA movement in PUNJAB as there is a very large scale dissatisfaction among the punjab TTAs specially in ludhiana SSA from where the seeds of SNATTA cultivated.Hence I would like to urge CHQ to dissolve the circle body of Punjab circle so that a circle conference can be organized at Ludhiana and new circlebody can be formed democratically otherwise most of TTA’s who are the strength of SNATTA who are already having dissatisfaction on the working of Hakkam singh n Tejinder singh THE DICTATERs will detach themselves from snatta
Hence CHQ is particularly being requested to intervene in this matter and order circle representatives to held the circle conference immediately in LUDHIANA so that before ACM GOA we may also be able to send its actual representatives their n take poper decision in the total welfare of TTAs.
HOPE FOR EARLY N REMEDIAL ACTION >
Regargs,
Shailendra Saraswat
Ex D S Ludhiana SNATTA
09417545999-01612071503
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16. Motive documents
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:23 pm ((PDT))
Hi friends,
I have given some of the documents available with me, except the portal
manual, which cannot be given here in open portal.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1828224415/item/list
Motive documents.rar
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17. Fw: ABOUT Aurora Presto
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:23 pm ((PDT))
It was supplies at SSA level. I think 1 or 2 for each SSA
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
________________________________
From: swarup <swarup_raju2007@rediffmail.com>
To: maansaha@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 7:59:10 AM
Subject: ABOUT Aurora Presto
CAN U PLEASE TELL ME WHERE SHALL I GET THIS Aurora Presto.
I AM WORKING IN COOCHBEHAR SSA.
swarup
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18. For Kind Attention to Ludhiana Friends
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:26 pm ((PDT))
My Shailender and Ludhiana Friends
I have no personal problems with u but from ur big mails i have following observations.
1. Earlier you said not a single TTA of Ludhaina with Hakam Singh now if Harjinder Singh supported him then u called Harjinder Singh a PEON of Hakam Singh. This is very shameful designation for a TTA by a EX DS of Ludhiana.
2. U have said that Mr Harjinder Singh has performed SASHTANG DANDVAT on his feet to D.S BSNLEU Mr Balwinder Singh in ur presence, again this is very shameful to the EX DS SNATTA.
3. It is clear and self evident that if all other TTAs of Ludhiana with u then they all are peon of EX. DS Ludhiana ? what a shameful remark.
4. That u have no respect for feelings of TTAS and CHQ Punjab beacuse u calling him with words AAKAA and DICTATOR.
This is my humble request u to please dont divide the all TTA friend of Punjab on a line of Punjabi and Non Punjabi and plz think on it try to become a responsible commando of SNATTA Punjab and also tried to Cooperate Circle body so that a team of Commandos will rise as a distt, body of Ludhiana very soon.
WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556
preet
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