ttabsnl94: TTABSNL Digest Number 1868

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Topics in this digest:

1. Fw: TTABSNL BEWARE OF HAKAM SINGH ALIAS HARJINDER SINGH & HIS RUMOUR
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

2a. File - database
From: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

3. (no subject)
From: Gola Singh

4a. GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: surinder mittal
4b. Re: GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4c. Re: GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
From: Sandip Solanki

5. Re: weeping is needed for votes
From: surinder mittal

6. tta fightin
From: kalyan kar

7a. Regarding war between TTAs
From: Komal Preet Singh
7b. Re: Regarding war between TTAs
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

8. Fw: TTABSNL clearfication SNATTA Amritsar
From: dhiraj Prajapati

9. regarding modrator
From: bally

10a. Re: Mobile Connection for TTAs Must have Free-Unlimited Calling to B
From: Verma Gyanendra

11a. REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
From: Balwinder Mehmi

12a. some latest news from www.snatta.org
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

13. No big name from corporate sector for BSNL top job
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

14. Corns and Callus: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

15. Food Made in China -Must Know and Avoid it.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

16a. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
From: Kp Singh

17. Mutual Transfer from chennai to Bangalore
From: nalini vasu

18. KINDLY STOP IT
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH

19. DONT WORRY ABOUT MY IDENTITY SUDESH , ITS MY GOOD LUCK YOU CALL ME H
From: Gola Singh

20. (no subject)
From: Balwinder Mehmi

21. Introductory Mail
From: Circle Secretary

22a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solutiontothedeadlock !!!!
From: raj upadhyay

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1. Fw: TTABSNL BEWARE OF HAKAM SINGH ALIAS HARJINDER SINGH & HIS RUMOUR
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:52 am ((PDT))

Dear Hakam alias Gola alias harjinder,

This shows your frustrations, but I am true, so I'll answer. your very cheap activities are continuing, you are requesting JUJHAR which is very openly a NFTE Leader , so you are misguiding all the TTAs of SNATTA, you have done nothing for the TTAs, see tour report card

Name : Hakam Singh
1. As Circle Secy. SNATTA Punjab: Fail to put TTAs common issue (incentive for Broadband engineers, GSM for all TTAs etc. ) against Circle management. Fail to motivate TTAs for the unity of SNATTA. Using dictatorship style with your followers.

2. RCM Member: fail to solve problems of Punjab TTAs. Every time you wrote Balbeer Singh CS BSNLEU, didn't show your leadership.

3. Wage Revision Committe Member: Ever Young TTAs knows it very well, reduction in thei salaries. Fail to get us Executive scale, whereas Central employees equalent to our cadre are enjoying. This hurts much more to me.

4: Designation Change committe Member: Fail to bulid pressure regarding designation change of TTAs.

I am not afraid your such type of cheap activities & I promise I'll continue to nake your original image.

Now I come to know what you are doing to keep CS post be fixed with you, your one more cheap activity is you are making groups in SSAs & making fake distt. bodies, then later you call for Circle conference only those peoples & these so namesake bodies will make you CS again, but we don't care.

: SUDESH
TTA (AMRITSAR)

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL BEWARE OF SUDESH KUMAR BHARDWAJ & HIS RUMOURS ABOUT SNATTA.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com, snattapunjab@gmail.com, rajeevmalik43@yahoo.com, kpsingh_007@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 5:05 PM

Jujhar ji ,

             Sudesh is a leader from BSNLEU , he is not a leader of SNATTA. Please think on following---

1. Not a single ttas from amritsar has given him a support TO BECOME A ORGANISING SECRETARY OF BSNLEU.

2. He never consulted ANY BODY from AMRITSAR or any one to BECOME LEADER OF BSNLEU.

3. He secretaly became a leader of BSNLEU  & NOT CONSULTED ANY ONE DUE TO GREED OF LEADERSHIP.

4. Please forgive him because he is VICTIM of BSNLEU , due to this he has STARTED THE RUMOURS EPISODE ABOUT CEC PUNJAB.

5. Jujhar you are right , that not a single ttas from AMRITSAR WITH HIM , because he is man of BSNLEU.

6. You are right , he never represented SNATTA but always represented BSNLEU.

7. he selected easy thing because , to represents SNATTA is very hard job.

           My requeest to all members of amritsar that please BEWARE OF SUDESH KUMAR.

Harjinder Pal Singh,
ssa-ludhiana.

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 1:43 AM

i am not join NFT but u have join the BSNLEU .i know you are totally biased by bsnleu.what ever you have written on yahoo group it is a written script of bsnleu because BSNLEU can't digest the unity of BSNLEU in Punjab and you take the benift from them .In my opinion you are the most dangerous for snatta.I request chq to avoided this type of people . Our distt secretary already disagree your stetment on yahoogroup. so should stop writting on yahoogroup and not play with snatta.I warn you don't say ' shut your mouth, again it will be ...............
--- On Sat, 8/21/10, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: "JUJHAR AMRITSAR" <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>
Cc: circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com, "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com>, "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com>, "snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>, "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 4:41 PM

Dear jujhar singh

why you have joined NFTE not followed the SNATTA alliance with BSNLEU . You type of people talk about unity & do opposite to SNATTA decisions. you type of people are dangerous to our SNATTA unity & are playing games with SNATTA
Reply what were your problems to join NFTE
If you have any answer then also reply to my district quetions to circle body punjab
Must reply otherwise shut your mouth

Balwinder singh
District secretary
SNATTA Jallandharl

REGARDING CEC PUNJAB

Saturday, 21 August, 2010 3:25 PM

From:

"sudesh kumar bhardwaj" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>View contact details

To:
"TTA" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>

Cc:
jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com

Dear Jujhar,
You are Hakam's follower or NFTE's please clear first. See LCM Agenda submitted to GMTD Amritsar, then write on group. You should keep busy in making NFTE Branches at Local level. If your type of people support Hakam type of leader, then nobody want to follow Hakam's leadership. You never support BSNLEU on any matter/any stage/any demonstration, but keep busy to strrong NFTE.
: SUDESH
Amritsar.

--- On Sat, 21/8/10, jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 21 August, 2010, 5:28 PM

Mr Sudesh first you should talk about the A mritsar unity. you are LCM member but
you never put any question regarding tta problem before GM. so please stop spreading
the rumours and save the unity of snatta

Jujhar singh TTA
amritsar
- On Sat, 8/21/10, sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: "TTA" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>, "Balwinder TTA" <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>, "BANDHAN CHD" <email13@gmail.com>, snattachq@gmail.com
Cc: "DINKAR" <dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in>, gsrandhawa4u@yahoo.co.in, "HARMEET SINGH" <harsingh77@gmail.com>, "IQBAL SINGH" <isd1313@rediffmail.com>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 6:58 AM

(Sorry moderator, as per your suggestion I wanted to keep myself out from this issue, but I don't remain to express my issue because as per my knowledge it becomes necessary for the unity of SNATTA in Punjab Circle. So sorry again)

To remove the dis-satisfactions among the entire Punjab Circle. CHQ leaders are requested to conduct Circle conference in Punjab by themselves. But I again requested following points must be keep in mind before its commencement :
1. Conference date should be fixed atleast 10 days before its declaration.
2. Date of CEC should be put on CHQ website & also on yahoo group.
3. Make sure that all SSA's TTAs attend the CEC.
4. Presence of at least one Senior leaders from CHQ is solicited.
5. Organization of conference must be at the centre place of Punjab (Jalandhar or nearabout)
6. Young TTAs from 2007-08-09 batches are also peculiarly invited.
7. Election of Circle posts must be by democratic way.
8. Present Circle leaders must bound to reply each question of every TTA. Open House session may be conducted for this purpose.
9. Young TTAs may be enter in next CEC.

Remember this is only for the unity of SNATTA in Punjab Circle.

: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg)
Amritsar.

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in> wrote:

From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL REGARDING CECPUNJAB
To: circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Cc: "snatta chq" <snattachq@yahoogroups.com>, "snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>, "TEKBIR SINGH" <razzdcool@yahoo.com>, "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>, "shalendra saraswat" <shailendrasaraswat@yahoo.co.in>, "surajpreet singh" <surajpreetsingh@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 11:18 PM

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Dear circle body punjab (CS &CC )
Why you have not reply to our SSA quries regading cec punjab (have you not any answer). What we shoud think about you
If you have any answer then also reply who is responsible for injustice with mr surajpreet singh & all other TTAs attending broadband complaints. who is responsible for passing TA bill proposal in RCM meeting which is not benifial to TTAs. will you blame to our chq for TA bill as you have done in case of wage revision. Must reply before its too much late.

TTABSNL REGARDING CWC PUNJAB
Saturday, 14 August, 2010 10:46 AM

From:

"Balwinder Mehmi" <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>Add sender to Contacts

To:
TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

Cc:
snattachq@yahoogroups.com, circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com, "lucky ASR" <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>

DEAR CIRCLE BODY PUNJAB & ALL DEAR FRINDS

THERE ARE SOME QUETIONS RELATED TO CWC MEETING OF PUNJAB CIRCLE HELD ON DATED 08-08-2010 KINDLY REPLY:-

1. WHY NOT CWC MEETING NOTICE LOADED ON SNATTA.ORG OR YAHOO GROUPS AS PER RESOLUTION OF CWC HAS BEEN LOADED

2. AS THE LAST DATE OF SENDING LIST OF DELEGATES FOR AIC AT GOA & COLLECTION OF RS-100 FUND FOR COURT CASES WAS 31-07-2010
WHY NOT CWC MEETING HOLD BEFORE 31-07-2010

3. FUND COLLECTION OF RS-500 EACH BY ALL MEMBERS OF SNATTA PUNJAB. IT HAS COME TO KNOW BY RELIABLE RESOURCES (MR JASVIR KUMAR JASSAL IN DEC MEETING OF JALLANDHAR) THAT THIS FUND ALSO INCLUDES FUND FOR CIRCLE CONFERENCE OF PUNJAB CIRCLE
WHY NOT MENTION ABOUT CIRCLE CONFERENCE IN RESOLUTION PASSED BY CWC

4. IT HAS COME TO KNOW THAT TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND MEETING, WHY
IS THEY ARE NOT MEMBER OF SNATTA

5. WHY NOT GIVEN ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO TTAs RECRUITED AFTER 01-01-2007 IN CIRCLE BODY OF PUNJAB IN CWC.

ALONG WITH REPLY TO ABOVE MENTION QUETIONS ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED CWC MEETING ON 08-08-2010 WITH THE POST THEY HOLD IN CIRCLE BODY OR SSA BODY

BALWINDER SINGH
DISTRICT PRESIDENT
SNATTA JALLANDHAR
PUNJAB

TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Friday, 13 August, 2010 2:50 PM

From:

"atul kumar" <atulkumar014@gmail.com>View contact details

To:
TTABSNL@YAHOOGROUPS.COM

JALANDHAR SSA IS NOT SATISFIED WITH CEC PUNJAB DECISIONS

A District Body meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar SSA took place at LCM Room JL on dt

12-08-2010. In this meeting the resolution passed by CEC were discussed in detail. The

meeting was presided by Sh Balwinder Singh, President. Sh Jasveer Jassal,vice Circle

President was also present. Following points were raised unanimously-

1. Circle conference should immediately be organized by the circle body in order to keep

the faith of all its member.

2. The whole Jalandhar District Body is not satisfied with the decision of continuing the

existing CEC as no District Body member was present in Ludhiana during the process

due to formal intimation by the Circle Body.

3. The members of Jalandhar are not ready to raise any fund, any financial contribution

without Circle Conference.
                                                                                                  Atul Kumar
                                                                                                Distt Secretary
                                                                                                SSA - Jalandhar

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2a. File - database
Posted by: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:48 am ((PDT))

Hello friends

pls update your and y our ssa details at this link, its urgent....

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/database?method=addRecord&tbl=8

--
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
Group Moderator TTABSNL
Rajasthan Circle
9413424883
gsrajawat@gmail.com

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3. (no subject)
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:06 am ((PDT))

Hi
some anti-snattian in ludhiana r putting hurdles in the path of cc hakam singh n r wrkng against him.i let him know one thing dat he is not alone, we r always with him for the welfare of snatta. Gola singh.

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4a. GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:08 am ((PDT))

Dear Friends...
Plz rethink...
TTABSNL Group is for wht...?

It is to have a common plateform for the discussion of TTA's problems...Then from where the question arose dat who had joined BSNLEU or NFTE.
SNATTA too is not of the concern. Its a democratic right of every TTA to join or refuse BSNLEU, NFTE or Even SNATTA. For SNATTA's matter, SNATTA's Portal itself is enough for updation informings.
Dont accuse any TTA for his / her associations wid any union or Group. To join SNATTA is our priority but not an obligation, and being a SNATTAian, we are automatically a part of recognised front or alliance.
If we TTAs querels for who joined what, its really a big shame for the qualificatory minds like us. There remains no difference between us & subordinatory minds. None of u guys have less thinking than any ITS mind, so please be constructive and act democratively not politically. If we act politically, plz ask urself, u r acting politically for what and with whom...?

Individually, we are nothing but collectively we are everything...

Comments Welcomed as Always...

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

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4b. Re: GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:08 am ((PDT))

hi *SNATTA-ians *and *SMART-ians*,

i am totally agree with surinder mittal.

*Don't put your Affiliations first rather Put your Associations first.*

We need to give strength to SNATTA. What we are trying to show to the
outside world.??

pls *behave like an Educated class*. i request everybody to* refrain from
personal comments and distortion of facts*.

*Think Deep inside yourself before speaking/writing on this platform/group
which has been doing a great role in building relationships since 2005*.
Dont pollute it with negativity. i dont want to pin-point anyone as all are
smart enough to understand and act.

*Let the Punjab Circle Conference date be announced and i assure all sides
would be given equal weight-age.
I won't allow anybody to create mess in the conference. Pls leave your Union
Affiliations at home before coming to conference, you would be welcomed as a
SNATTAian only.*

regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh*

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM, surinder mittal <
mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Dear Friends...
> Plz rethink...
> TTABSNL Group is for wht...?
>
> It is to have a common plateform for the discussion of TTA's
> problems...Then from where the question arose dat who had joined BSNLEU or
> NFTE.
> SNATTA too is not of the concern. Its a democratic right of every TTA to
> join or refuse BSNLEU, NFTE or Even SNATTA. For SNATTA's matter, SNATTA's
> Portal itself is enough for updation informings.
> Dont accuse any TTA for his / her associations wid any union or Group. To
> join SNATTA is our priority but not an obligation, and being a SNATTAian, we
> are automatically a part of recognised front or alliance.
> If we TTAs querels for who joined what, its really a big shame for the
> qualificatory minds like us. There remains no difference between us &
> subordinatory minds. None of u guys have less thinking than any ITS mind, so
> please be constructive and act democratively not politically. If we act
> politically, plz ask urself, u r acting politically for what and with
> whom...?
>
> Individually, we are nothing but collectively we are everything...
>
> Comments Welcomed as Always...
>
> Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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4c. Re: GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 am ((PDT))

Now
it's the point.
Now a days this group is not a fair platform to discuss any healthy matters.
It may be felt by the fact that so many positive thinkers have stopped writing on Groups. I was wondered that good ideas are now not shared by my dear friend ABHILASH, PAWAN MEENA, and above all Dhiraj Chaudhary. They were continuously writing the thoughts which were helping us to improve our ideas and thinkings.
Now a days only people are fighting for his own view ( to prove his view right ).
I think

" WE NEED THE TEAM OF DHIRAJ, VERMA, CHANDAN now......."

What all thinkers says on this line ?????

Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL GROUP FOR WHAT....?..... Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 10:37 PM

hi SNATTA-ians and SMART-ians,

i am totally agree with surinder mittal.

Don't put your Affiliations first rather Put your Associations first.

We need to give strength to SNATTA. What we are trying to show to the outside world.??

pls behave like an Educated class. i request everybody to refrain from personal comments and distortion of facts.

Think Deep inside yourself before speaking/writing on this platform/group which has been doing a great role in building relationships since 2005. Dont pollute it with negativity. i dont want to pin-point anyone as all are smart enough to understand and act.

Let the Punjab Circle Conference date be announced and i assure all sides would be given equal weight-age.
I won't allow anybody to create mess in the conference. Pls leave your Union Affiliations at home before coming to conference, you would be welcomed as a SNATTAian only.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM, surinder mittal <mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Friends...
Plz rethink...
TTABSNL Group is for wht...?

Individually, we are nothing but collectively we are everything...

Comments Welcomed as Always...

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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5. Re: weeping is needed for votes
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:19 am ((PDT))

ys Mr Baltej Singh...

U r absolutly right. I forget the alliee Partner's name, bt surely its urs team's effort. If u r nt an alliee partner of BSNLEU or NFTE, thn where r u Sir...' why dnt u involve urself actively in the discussion going on in the TTABSNL group. We need ur association's view and may be u convience TTAs and collectively there becomes a third front this time to teach lesson to both BSNLEU & NFTE.

Reply Must Please....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939

On Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 7:32 AM PDT Baltej Singh ashat wrote:

>Dear Surinder,
> Hi,
>       The upgradation was a outcome of decision of anomaly commitee and neither BSNL management nor BSNLEU/NFTE has playedany role in this.This and internal exam for JTO was done with due pressure from Bhartia Telecom technician unon BTEF-BMS and Now that union is struggling to survive.
>                   Other unions took lesson from it that "JAB TAK MAZDOOR BHUKHA RAHEGA, UNION JHANDE KE NICHE RAHEGA"
>               Now dont expect foolishness from Trade Unions As they will lose membership If TTA is promoted /having no issues to cry.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> JAI HIND,
> BALTEJ SINGH
>CIR. SEC.
>BTEF -BMS
>09815696411,09417003970
>

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6. tta fightin
Posted by: "kalyan kar" kalyan_7fru@yahoo.co.in kalyan_7fru
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:23 am ((PDT))

hi frnds
lot of fightin is going on regarding hakam singh, bsnleu etcccc
this doesnt give us(ttas) any benefit,i appeal to u all guys please verify facts before accusing any one,all of u simply blaming n targettin few people with baseless allegations
i would like to ask u all ,does this benefit us by discussing all this in public place like yahoogroup,this sort of fightin will damage our spirit, also strengthens the people who wanna disintegrate snatta

before acusing just call them personally and get their opinion regardin ur doubts, most of the doubts will be clarified if u talk personallyn still if ur not satisfied mail(personally) to them, ur allegations n try to get reply

dear frnds there is lot to be done
though we r not satisfied with various issues like wage revision ,jto ldce etcccc but still we must support snatta, also our leaders r new to union politics some times knowingly or unknowingly they do commit mistakes, if we hang on those mistakes we will go nowhere
so my humble appeal to all of us lets not commit any such thing which weakens snatta

with regards

S kalyankartta,ndl+91-8008345665+91-9493459456

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7a. Regarding war between TTAs
Posted by: "Komal Preet Singh" kpsingh_007@yahoo.com kpsingh_007
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

dear snattians,
i read statements by sh. sudesh kumar regarding various matters like fund
scandal, some one joined some other union etc. etc..
i strongly disagree with sh sudesh kumar,,
i have already explained about fund scandal,,
now the new matter has arosen about sh jujhar singh,,
its just nothing but to get the intensions diverted to other issues,,

sh. jujhar singh has neither joined bsnleu nor nfte,
these are all rumours,,he is 100 % with us snattians...

now as whole amritsar knows that the persons from amritsar who are spreading
rumours are with which union,, so i dont feel need to explain this again as this
is already clearly explained by sh jujhar singh.

now i request those persons for not spreading false statements,,

regards,

K P Singh

Distt. Secy.
SNATTA Amritsar.

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7b. Re: Regarding war between TTAs
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:53 am ((PDT))

hi..

if anybody still DISAGREE then he/she could see jujhar singh's past salary
statement, from where we can see where his Monthly funds going...!!

am i right.??

anyway... i dont want anybody to drag me into this fuss.

bandhan

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Komal Preet Singh <kpsingh_007@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> dear snattians,
> i read statements by sh. sudesh kumar regarding various matters like fund
> scandal, some one joined some other union etc. etc..
> i strongly disagree with sh sudesh kumar,,
> i have already explained about fund scandal,,
> now the new matter has arosen about sh jujhar singh,,
> its just nothing but to get the intensions diverted to other issues,,
>
> sh. jujhar singh has neither joined bsnleu nor nfte,
> these are all rumours,,he is 100 % with us snattians...
>
> now as whole amritsar knows that the persons from amritsar who are
> spreading rumours are with which union,, so i dont feel need to explain this
> again as this is already clearly explained by sh jujhar singh.
>
> now i request those persons for not spreading false statements,,
>
> regards,
>
> K P Singh
>
> Distt. Secy.
> SNATTA Amritsar.
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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8. Fw: TTABSNL clearfication SNATTA Amritsar
Posted by: "dhiraj Prajapati" bsnl1977@yahoo.in bsnl1977
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am ((PDT))

yes rajiv is wright jujhar is not a NFTE member.before blaming dear sudesh tell us what is your achivement for SNATTA and as LCM member what you have done for TTA in amritsar.dear balwinder DS SNATTA JLD please dont interfar in this matter because you dont know about the truth.

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Rajeev Malik <rajeevmalik43@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rajeev Malik <rajeevmalik43@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL clearfication SNATTA Amritsar
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 2:51 PM

To all of TTA Punjab

I have watching war in yahoo group from last few days.
I am here to clear that Mr Jujhar singh not join NFTE. He is the member of SC/ST association those support the rights of SC/ST members. It is a reserved association to protect the rights of sc/st members.In this association GM,DE,SDO,JTO,TTA etc also a member. In this association BSNLEU,NFTE ,SNATTA and of others union also have members..But Mr Sudesh spread the rumors that Mr.Jujhar singh join the NFTE.I know that mr sudesh is good in writing but it is not favor of SNATTA.I and Dist Secretary ASR Mr Komal preet singh take the help from Mr.Jujhar singh for TTA matter in Amritsar . Mr Sudesh if you have any problem from any member you should talk first to Dist Secretary or me.

Dist President SNATTA

RAJEEV MALIK
AMRITSAR

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9. regarding modrator
Posted by: "bally" ballypb@gmail.com ballypb
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am ((PDT))

i request to our mail modrator please dont approve such kind of mails which are harmful to our unity and our member should also be careful about this as there are lots of our issues are pending for decision which are directly concerned with our future and can be solved with our collective approach we are fighting at many fronts at al front our unity is must otherwise we all will be tta forever
balkaran singh
shri muktsar sahib
punab
9417345152

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10a. Re: Mobile Connection for TTAs Must have Free-Unlimited Calling to B
Posted by: "Verma Gyanendra" gv7629@yahoo.in gv7629
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am ((PDT))

Actually friends i m not in favour of service mobile connections. What i want that we shuold demand Rs.300/- teriff voucher for us all.
--- On Sat, 21/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Mobile Connection for TTAs Must have Free-Unlimited Calling to BSNL Network atleast.
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 21 August, 2010, 6:32 PM

hi friends,

If BSNL Mgmt gives BSNL Mobile connection to Non-Executive specially to TTAs working in field then Don't accept it until and unless we get Unlimited Calling to BSNL Network as 300 odd bucks are very less. BSNL going into losses and they charging its own employees to earn revenue..?? ridiculous..!! GREAT POLICY of BSNL Mgmt.

BSNL is not offering any scheme/discounts/offers for its own employees. the only scheme thats prevalent is 20% discount to Govt Employees which we avail indirectly. BUT...BSNL has never given any discounts/ schemes/ offers/ incentives to its own employees. the policies of BSNL since beginning are very poorly framed up.

there is hardly any motivation for employees in BSNL. One of the live example is of non-conductance of promotional exam for the last 8 yrs.

See the below chart and you will find that BSNL gives special vouchers through which General subscribers can get unlimited SMS, STD, Local calling, GPRS etc... Can BSNL give below scheme to Employees on their service connection..??

Atleast they can barred us from calling private operators but they must give free calling to its Own network so that BSNL don't have to pay Access Deficit Charges to any operator. Whenever an employees calls a subscriber on its BSNL network he/she should not think that after 10, 20 or say 30 mins i will be getting charged for any extra minute spent on helping subscriber. especially in broadband section we need to talk a lot on phone to make user understand the solution. Most of the complaints get solved if there is an IT literate over the other side. Also there are various broadband plans by BSNL so queries about them are common on phone.

In a nutshell, we need mobile phone with unlimited Calling and SMS to BSNL Network as we need to promote our own services and use them excessively.

Details of Recharge Vouchers/Special Tariff Vouchers/Top-Up Coupons :

Type of Voucher

MRP in Rs.

Total Service Tax @ 10.30% in Rs.

Card Value in Rs.

Processing Fee / (Bonus TV) in Rs.

Talk Value in Rs.

Validity in days

Approx. Minutes of Usage

Top-up Voucher

0.93

9.07

7.07

Local & National SMS @ Rs.0.01/SMS

1.21

11.79

Local/STD On-net Night @ 0.20/Min

1.59

15.41

Top-up Voucher

1.87

18.13

16.13

Unlimited P2P SMS Local (FUL-100 SMS/Day or 2000 SMS per month)**

1.87

18.13

Unlimited Local /STD On-Net-1 day

2.80

27.20

2000 Local & 1000 National SMS Free

2.89

28.11

Local On-Net @ Rs.0.20/MIN

3.27

31.73

Student Power 0.90 for own net/off net call

3.74

36.26

1 Second Pulse
Local & STD calls @ 1p/sec on own network

Local & STD calls @ 1.2p/sec on other networks

4.20

40.80

365

Local & STD On-Net @ Rs.0.20/Min

4.39

42.61

Local On-Net @ 1p/3 sec

4.67

45.33

Recharge Voucher

5.14

49.86

14.86

Top-up Voucher

5.14

49.86

Local Any Network @ Rs.0.30/Min

5.70

55.30

Local On-net @ Rs.0.10/Min

6.07

58.93

Recharge Voucher

110

10.27

99.73

24.73

Top-up Voucher

110

10.27

99.73

111

Unlimited Local /STD On-Net-7 days

150

14.01

135.99

Unlimited Local /STD On-Net-30 days

500

46.69

453.31

Recharge Voucher

220

20.54

199.46

39.46

160

178

Top-up Voucher

220

20.54

199.46

222

GPRS Pack- Unlimited usage free while in home LSA and in roaming.

274

25.59

248.41

Recharge Voucher

280

26.15

253.85

213.85

365

Local call- Own Network Unlimited free

300

28.01

271.99

Recharge Voucher

330

30.82

299.18

49.18

250

278

Recharge Voucher

550

51.36

498.64

98.64

400

180

444

Top-up Voucher

550

51.36

498.64

554

Recharge Voucher

1100

102.72

997.28

(2.72)

1000

365

1111

Recharge Voucher

3300

308.16

2991.84

(308.16)

3300

365

3667

The validity period for special tariffs mentioned above is applicable to Anant plans. For other plans, the validity is 30 days.

own net denotes BSNL network and off net denotes others network .

Note :

1. Recharge coupans with validity more than 90 days are not available in Assam, J&K, NE.

2. This facility of reduced rate will not be available on 5 black-out days, i.e. New Year Eve 31st Dec., New Year Day 1st Jan., Valentine Day, Diwali & Christmas Day. (Except Super one India & One sec pulse)

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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11a. REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:39 am ((PDT))

Dear jujhar singh
                                     my dear friend if in your SSA any trade union leaders are threating our dear TTAs, The SSA District body can increase its activities by arranging meeting at SSA level to protect our dear TTAs from any harm by management or trade union . moreover your SSA can complain to our circle body & chq SNATTA (If u have complain to cs or cc punjab, the steps they taken are u satisfied with them)
I assure u we will stand by u against any injustice with our dear TTAs.
                                My dear i want to clear that i do not follows mr sudesh kumar ,the demand to conduct circle conference is of my SSA in DEC meeting. We take any decision in democrative way in DEC meeting & always stands with truth.
                                my dear our circle leaders are not ready to discuss issue regarding CEC Punjab, if they had responsibility or sense to maitain unity they had arranged meeting to discuss the issue & stop increasing conflict between TTAs ,moreover all new TTAs say that if they had any post in SNATTA leadership they did not have pay anomally , so its our responsibility to give them proper representation to maintain our SNATTA unity
         For ur kind information we had already declare to give the post of DP to new TTA in our SSA in democrative way. so my dear friends try to understand our feelings to maintain unity of SNATTA
Its out of understandig that TTAs who are being harrassed by management or any trade union instead of having district body & circle body are opposing to conduct circle conference in democrative way to maintain faith in all dear TTAs & discuss all issues like yours in detail at circle level.

Balwinder singh
District president
SNATTA Jallandhar

Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Sunday, 22 August, 2010 2:20 AM

From:

"jujhar Singh" <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>View contact details

To:
TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

Mr Balwinder
You donot know the matter in Amritsar .what ever Sudesh have tell you don't repeated it .even not one people agree with Sudesh Kumar. You know that why a single person of SNATTA member didn't attend the CEC meeting last tow week ago, because BNSLEU threading the SNATTA member in different way and Sudesh Kumar with them. if you have some proble with CEC you talk them and put question in meeting don't write in yahoogroup it will not faver in SNATTA
.So please stop questioning

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Saturday, 14 August, 2010 10:46 AM

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TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
Friday, 13 August, 2010 2:50 PM

From:

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To:
TTABSNL@YAHOOGROUPS.COM

JALANDHAR SSA IS NOT SATISFIED WITH CEC PUNJAB DECISIONS

A District Body meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar SSA took place at LCM Room JL on dt

12-08-2010. In this meeting the resolution passed by CEC were discussed in detail. The

meeting was presided by Sh Balwinder Singh, President. Sh Jasveer Jassal,vice Circle

President was also present. Following points were raised unanimously-

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12a. some latest news from www.snatta.org
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:50 pm ((PDT))

* **Related News:*

* All the Circle Secretaries are requested to collect the Rs.100/- towards
annual fee for the year 2010-11 and deposit the CHQ quota of each member
till 31st July, 2010 without fail in the SNATTA CHQ Axis bank S/B A/C
204010100060738, Rohtak, Haryana. It will be the responsibility of each
circle secretary to deposit fund by 31st July, 2010.*

* Dt 23-08-2010*CHQ writes to *Shri. D.P. De. General Manager (Estt),
BSNL*for granting pay protection to the non executives recruited on
and after
1.1.2007 by according suitable fitment benefit.* Click
here<http://snatta.org/news/Pay%20Protection%2022.08.2010.pdf>
*

* Dt 21-08-2010Photos of the Venue at GOA for AIC. Click
here<http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/sredir?uname=snattachq&target=ALBUM&id=5507530653091528145&authkey=Gv1sRgCOmzjKOE4I-k2QE&feat=email>
*

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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13. No big name from corporate sector for BSNL top job
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:48 pm ((PDT))

No big name from corporate sector for BSNL top job
NEW DELHI: As many as 132 applicants, mostly from the PSUs, have applied for
the top post of BSNL's CMD, while there was a lukewarm response from the
corporate sector.

Out of 132 applications that the PSU has received, 84 are from officials
working with BSNL itself or two other government owned firms -- MTNL and
TCIL.

According to sources, very few people have applied from the private sector.

Additional Secretary in Department of Telecom Subodh Kumar, who has already
been empanelled for the post of Secretary, is understood to have applied for
the post.

Besides, other big names include TCIL Chairman and Managing Director RK
Upadhyay, ITI Chairman K L Dhingra and others.

The government had invited applications from candidates in the public and
private sector for the post of Chairman and Managing Director of BSNL.

August 16, 2010 was the last day for submitting the applications.

If a candidate from the private sector is selected, it will be the first
time that the telecom PSU will be headed by a chief from the private sector.

The government has constituted a Search-cum-Selection panel headed by the
Cabinet Secretary for finding a suitable candidate for the post.

As per the terms and conditions of the job, the government has offered a
maximum package of up to Rs 30 lakh (Rs 3 million) annually for the post.

Sources said that the salary package acted as a deterrent for people in
corporate sector. A CMD in a private firm can earn somewhere up to Rs 3
crore, however, BSNL was offering only Rs 30 lakh.

The selection process for BSNL is being done as part of restructuring to
make it financially viable, as recommended by the Sam Pitroda panel. After
BSNL's CMD, Kuldip Goyal retired on July 31, Gopal Das is the acting CMD.

The new CMD of telecom PSU BSNL will be hired on a contract basis with a
fixed term of three years, which can be further extended for three years
based on performance evaluation by an external expert group.

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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14. Corns and Callus: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:49 pm ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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15. Food Made in China -Must Know and Avoid it.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:34 pm ((PDT))

*Make sure you read to the** very** end � very interesting �*
*perhaps the best way to tell where things are made�.*

China milk poisoning incidents make everyone afraid to look at the daily
news report.
Everyday, the reports are changing. No one can clearly tell us what to eat
and what not to eat.*

1.**What really is poisoned milk?*

It is milk powder mixed with 'MELAMINE'

What is Melamine used for?
It is an industrial chemical used in the production of melawares.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
It is also used in home decoration. ' US resistant board'*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
*
We all MUST understand that Melamine is used in INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION*
*- - - - -it CANNOT be eaten**.

2.Why is Melamine added to milk powder**?*

The most important nutrient in milk is protein.
And, Melamine has this same protein that contains 'NITROGEN'
*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

Adding Melamine into milk reduces the actual milk content required,
and therefore it is cheaper than all milk. So it lowers the capital required
in the production of milk products. Therefore it earns the business man more
profit!

Below is Melamine; doesn't it look like milk / milk powder?
It doesn't have any smell, so cannot be detected.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>*

3.When was it discovered that it had been added to milk products.*
In2007, US cats and dogs died suddenly, they found that pet food from China
contained Melamine.

Early in2008, in China , an abnormal increase in infant cases of kidney
stones was reported.
*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

In August 2008, China Sanlu Milk Powder tested for Melamine
*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

Sept. 2008, the New Zealand government asked China to investigate this
problem
Sept. 21, 2008, they found that many food products in Taiwan tested for
Melamine*

4.**What happens when Melamine ingested and digested?*

Melamine remains inside the kidneys. It forms into stones blocking the
tubes.
Pain will be imminent and the person cannot urinate. Kidney(s) will then
swell.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

Although surgery can remove the stones, it causes irreversible kidney
damage.
It can lead to the loss of kidney function and will require kidney dialysis
or lead to death
because of uremia.

What is dialysis? In fact, it should be called 'blood washing'; it is
filtering all of the body's blood into
a machine and then returning the blood back to the body.
*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

The whole process takes 4 hours; and it is necessary to have dialysis
once every 3 days for the rest of your life.

Below: A dialysis center*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

Below: Alarge dialysis center*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
A small hole is required in the arm to insert the sub-dialysis catheter.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
Why is it much more serious in babies?
A baby's kidneys are so very small* and *they drink a lot of milk powder.

Below: A baby undergoing dialysis.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
China currenty has 13,000 infants hospitalized*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

It does not matter how much Melamine a human being ingested (ate) (took).
The important point is:* 'MELAMINE CANNOT BE EATEN!'**

5.What foods are to be avoided?*

Foods from China that contain dairy products should be avoided.*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>*
Remember: Foods with cream or milk should be avoided.**

6.Which companies are affected**?*
*
Hereunder are the companies affected with Melamine.*
*---------------------------------------------------------*
*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>
*
7.What do we do next**?*

Avoid the above foods for at least six months.

If you own or operate a snack bar, a restaurant, or a coffee shops, etc.,
*stop selling dairy products for the meantime.*

If you have infants at home, change to mother's milk or find other
substitutes.

Finally, share this information with friends so they will understand the
risk of milk poisoning.

The whole world is very afraid of "Made In China" *'black-hearted'*goods.
Do you know how to differentiate which products are made in the USA , or in
the Philippines , in Taiwan , or in China ?
*Here's How:*
*The first 3 digits of the barcode identify the country code*
*wherein the product was made.*
*
For Example:ALL *barcodes that start with*690, 691, 692, etc.,*. .
upto and including*695*are*all MADE IN CHINA .*
Barcodes starting with*471*are printed on products Made in Taiwan .

*
*[image: Fun & Info @ Keralites.net] <http://keralites.net/>

You have aright to know.But the government and related departments
never inform or educate the public.Therefore we must educate ourselves,
be vigilant, and RESCUE ourselves.

Today, Chinese businessmen know that consumers will not select products
'Made in China '. So, they make every effort not to show or state the
country
of origin on their products.*However,you can now refer to the barcode.*
DO remember if the first 3 digits are one of those between 690 and 695
inclusive then it is a product Made* in China* .
*OTHER BARCODES:*
00 ~ 13 USA & CANADA
30 ~ 37 FRANCE
40 ~ 44 GERMANY
49 ~ JAPAN
50 ~ UK
57 ~ Denmark
64 ~ Finland
76 ~ Switzerland and Liechtenstein
628 ~ Saudi-Arabia
629 ~ United Arab Emirates
740 ~ 745 - Central America

All 480 Codes are Made in the Philippine*s.*
*
Please inform your family and friends.*
*Be aware! And help others to be aware!*

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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16a. Re: supplimentary item for 24th NCM
Posted by: "Kp Singh" kpsttabsnl@yahoo.in kpsttabsnl
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:25 am ((PDT))

Yes mahesh ji,
You are right,
Many ttas are gettin lesser pay than their juniors after pay fixation.
This point should be resolved on priority basis.
thanks and regards,

KP Singh
TTA 5ESS
Noida.
Ph.0120-2056543.

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL supplimentary item for 24th NCM
To: "tta yahoo snatta" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 2:51 AM

To CHQ
Dear Chq
kindly arrange to add one item in next NCM meating on 31-08-2010
"senior get less pay than junior after wage revison"

MAHESH SONI
TTA
OCB TAX
MEHSANA
GUJARAT

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17. Mutual Transfer from chennai to Bangalore
Posted by: "nalini vasu" vim_anush@yahoo.co.in vim_anush
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:26 am ((PDT))

Hi Friends,
Any body looking for Mutual Transfer From Bangalore to Chennai.
Pls let my know.
I am Looking for Mutual Transfer from Chennai to Bangalore.
ThanksRegardsNalini V.VTTA, RajBahavan Division,Guindy

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18. KINDLY STOP IT
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 am ((PDT))

Dear Sudesh Kumar ji

My dear friend when CHQ doing everything for the Wage reduction of New TTAs on the same time ur statement may exploit the our new TTA friends. All we know that management made injustice with him so plz stop this type of statements.

Secondly Brother ur whole Distt Sec, Vice president and also Mr jujhar Singh fully against with ur activities and not agrees with ur statement regarding CEC.For what purpose u are doing all this.GSM for TTA demand pending in NCM and for Incentive to BB Enginner i think Every GM asked to submit a diary of three months.
DONT TAKE IT PERSONNALY STOP ALL THIS FOR THE SAKE OF OUR UNITY.PLZ RESPECT OUR CIRCLE BODY MEMBERS

WITH REGARDS
Er.PRITPAL SINGH
DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
PUNJAB 09417073556

preet

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19. DONT WORRY ABOUT MY IDENTITY SUDESH , ITS MY GOOD LUCK YOU CALL ME H
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 am ((PDT))

Sudesh ji ,

Thank you , very much you have call me Hakam singh. Sudesh , this is my GOOD LUCK that you call me Hakam Singh.This is my LUCK that
you call me hakam singh. Please dont waste time on my IDENTITY , you are requested to please give reply to all questions / quesries / all activities by you ask by me.

Dont worry about score card of hakam singh , PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SCORE CARD OF BSNLEU FOR TTAs AS YOU ARE A LEADER OF BSNLEU.

Harjinder singh,
ssa-ludhiana.

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: TTABSNL BEWARE OF HAKAM SINGH ALIAS HARJINDER SINGH & HIS RUMOURS ABOUT SNATTA.
To: "TTA" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "SNATTA CHQ" <snattachq@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 12:37 PM

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: jujhar Singh <jujhar_bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL REGARDING CEC PUNJAB
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 1:43 AM

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20. (no subject)
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:29 am ((PDT))

                                                    my dear friend if in your SSA any trade union leaders are threating our dear TTAs, The SSA District body can increase its activities by arranging meeting at SSA level to protect our dear TTAs from any harm by management or trade union . moreover your SSA can complain to our circle body & chq SNATTA (If u have complain to cs or cc punjab, the steps they taken are u satisfied with them)
I assure u we will stand by u against any injustice with our dear TTAs.
                                My dear i want to clear that i do not follows mr sudesh kumar ,the demand to conduct circle conference is of my SSA in DEC meeting. We take any decision in democrative way in DEC meeting & always stands with truth.
                                my dear our circle leaders are not ready to discuss issue regarding CEC Punjab, if they had responsibility or sense to maitain unity they had arranged meeting to discuss the issue & stop increasing conflict between TTAs ,moreover all new TTAs say that if they had any post in SNATTA leadership they did not have pay anomally , so its our responsibility to give them proper representation to maintain our SNATTA unity
        For ur kind information we had already declare to give the post of DP to new TTA in our SSA in democrative way. so my dear friends try to understand our feelings to maintain unity of SNATTA
Its out of understandig that TTAs who are being harrassed by management or any trade union instead of having district body & circle body are opposing to conduct circle conference in democrative way to maintain faith in all dear TTAs & discuss all issues like yours in detail at circle level.

Balwinder singh
District president
SNATTA Jallandhar

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JALANDHAR SSA IS NOT SATISFIED WITH CEC PUNJAB DECISIONS

A District Body meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar SSA took place at LCM Room JL on dt

12-08-2010. In this meeting the resolution passed by CEC were discussed in detail. The

meeting was presided by Sh Balwinder Singh, President. Sh Jasveer Jassal,vice Circle

President was also present. Following points were raised unanimously-

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21. Introductory Mail
Posted by: "Circle Secretary" cs_snatta_hr@yahoo.in cs_snatta_hr
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:30 am ((PDT))

Hello to all SNATTAians at our TTA BSNL group platform

Rakesh Saklani
Circle Secretary
SNATTA HARYANA
9468010100
01762-225225(R)

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22a. Re: Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solutiontothedeadlock !!!!
Posted by: "raj upadhyay" raj.ku@indiatimes.com raj.ku73
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:32 am ((PDT))

A VERY IMPORTANT AND CONVINCING MAIL.
THANKS.
RK UPADHYAY
TTA (MKTG)
MATHURA
----- Original Message -----
From: V.K.Anand
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:51:33 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution tothedeadlock !!!!

Dear Mr. Raj and all friends,

I request you to read all discussions on this groups. you have written

"I have joined in 2009, so what you have refered to is not in my knowledge. "

In my view all of US new or old must have an understanding of these issue . I am not surprised though that you are unaware. Even many of my friends are reading these mails and not bothering to think or write or discuss because they think that ,this is not their problem.

Same thing happend when I and many friends were reminding CHQ and new recruits
about wage nogotiation. New friends kept mum or were reluctant to any activity. Result is known to every body.

I once again request every TTAs to have discussion, write mails and build pressure in your own capacity to SNATTA CHQ and other unions to solve this problem. DO not wait for others to solve your problem .( other means other TTA, Other union etc..) and please please .. do not think , this is not your problem. Many of us have passed more then 8 years just like that ..thinking .. other person will solve their ... problems like wage , Promotion and even Designation change.

I am not even surprised to see, the most important demand of SNATTA JTO LICE , missing from NCM. With such awareness and such a forsight what more one can get!!!

Kind regards,

V.K.Anand
TTA MSC

From: raj upadhyay <raj.ku@indiatimes.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 12:06:59 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution tothedeadlock !!!!

Thanks a lot to take pain to respond.
I never mean to hurt your ego.
Any way elder is elder and is always respectable and to be respected, no doubt about it.
I don't need to refer to the dictionary as my purpose of communicating my feelings is fulfilled.
I have joined in 2009, so what you have refered to is not in my knowledge. Otherwise also we shouldn't resort to this practice because of somebody in our group does it.
With warmest regards.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:24:59 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to thedeadlock !!!!

hi dear,
understand the flow of communication rather than words used.
chaps means fellow man, pls check the oxford dictionary.
i have not got ur mail when young guys used absurd word for their elder brothers. why u kept silent then.?
i understand ur feelings but at the same time pls do understand and regard us like elder brothers.
we are always with u my dear.

regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:34 AM, raj upadhyay <raj.ku@indiatimes.com> wrote:

A well thought,well worked out acceptable thought.I am in agreement with you to discuss the issue.
New TTAs also are coming in line to understand and work to achieve the goal of SNATTA. They have started participating actively. Let's call them friends. The use of words like chaps doesn't fit to the degree of love/ affection/respect, we have for our members.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:06:14 +0530 (IST)
Subject: TTABSNL Impressed with the new Ideas for the Solution to the deadlock !!!!

Dear friends,

To the some extent i am also agree with Mr. VK Anand and Vikas about the thinking of reverse engineering.
We have to start looking back now. We have to see some alternative plans. Pls negotiate with them all at the earliest and Call an unofficial meeting with Union and management to resolve the Issue. We can make it out of the court settlement.

this yahoo group platform has already generated a lot of Ideas and Enthusiasm among its member TTAs but what about those still left untouched by the ongoing activities of SNATTA. We have to generate awareness about SNATTA activities among all TTAs so our strength becomes more strong. All are requested to let other TTAs also join this group and make it large and strong.

We have a lot of Talented Technical Associates (TTAs), everyone is having some or the other unique skill. Pls use them appropriately. We talk a lot about every damn thing on this planet but what about our PROMOTION..??

These young chaps ( TTAs 2007, 2009) think about their salaries only... the only mail coming from them is about fit-ment only. Have they ever thought about Promotion..?? We too agree that pay revision has not taken place to its best but u all New TTAs are not only concerned with this issue u have to involve urself with bigger opportunities also. I request everyone to think more about ur future also like CS Santosh of Kolkatta doing. i like his gutsy attitude.I request him to enroll all New TTAs in SNATTAs fold and make our family large and Strong.

i am highly impress with the way Mr.Anand took pain and generated new FRESH IDEAS for us to think about. Its not easy to gather all Ideas for a particular cause. The worries of Amit Sharma should also taken into concern while thinking of any new line of action.

i am of the View that we should do some Restructuring among SNATTA body and We should have more people in CHQ Body.

in my opinion, like BSNLEU and SNATTA Haryana Circle made 3 Assistant CS likewise CHQ should too have 3 or 5 Assistant General Secretaries (AGS). We can also have more Vice-Presidents to look after the entire affairs of SNATTA and encourage new members to play more active role. We should choose someone from nearby Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Rajasthan, JK etc. so that if GS Verma could not attend any Delhi meeting then we can send our AGS to represent our view in every meeting with management. We should try to attend every meeting with Mgmt and Union. We can have more democratic, liberal and fresh ideas to Fight against our miseries. It will provide some relief to existing CHQ body which is already burden with so many requests, queries, cases, meetings etc etc.. We can delegate some work to other members and make them responsible towards association. EXAMPLE, we can give Website management or Yahoo Group Management to any AGS. likewise we can also nominate our AGS for Designation Change committee or Wage-Revision committee. Everybody should have independent charge to look after but sharing of Information and cooperation is must among themselves.
We can also give some seats to new recruited TTAs in Circle Body to have their more involvement.

i don't want to wait for AIC to happen and give my VIEWS there only. I will present my views on this platform so that people coming there can take this points to further level. i want that whoever attending AIC there should come up with something new and fresh to fight for our battle. One can make a long list out of all discussions happened on this group and present that during AIC meeting but if we can simplify some matter before hand then its more fruitful. Its not possible for all to join there because of Financial, Time and personal other constraints.

I also want to share one of my personal thought with the group that we could have AIC meeting in New Delhi also so that everyone comes there and we could even show our protest march for 2-3 hrs in front of BSNL Sanchar Bhavan. We can hit two birds in one shot. We don't have enough time to show our real concern We have to show our resentment to the BSNL Mgmt. in Practical form. We could generate Media and public awareness with our protest march as done by JTOs in past. Everybody should know the pain and dissatisfaction prevailing among Qualified and Talented TTAs of BSNL. We have to do some type of Drama/Stunt to make them realize about our genuine demands. Now is the high Time to show some revolt against BSNL Mgmt like some Indians did against Britsihers in 1857. i shared the same with Punjab TTAs in Ludhiana meeting recently where i told them that we should went to Sanchar Bhavan in Full Black Dress to show our protest. Can't we do this ..?? Is there Anybody who agrees with me.??

These are just my personal views so it should be taken in that sense only. anything found good could be taken into account and leave the rest aside. i will post my more views in coming days.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear All,
it was certainly a very well thought and an eye opener post as what we have achieved and what we could have achieved since the formation of SNATTA.

I also personally feel that the court cases and the subsequent judgments are going to take us nowhere,number one-the legal machinery is time consuming and breadth taking we all would agree.number two-the judgments are too vague and one is left with own wisdom to interpret it.The court said the diverted personnel should be reverted back and the post should be restored but this left BSNL clue less as how this can be done when they actually have taken charge as JTOs and many have even been promoted to higher cadres.Yes they can be reverted back outright but this will again cause a rippling chain of court cases we never know.

But mind all I am/was not against SNATTAs court case to restore the diverted post.This is and was our most revered achievement so far that truly took us to new high and got us the respect from the adversaries.

I am just saying that we did this we did that but we still are TTAs and would remain for some time I think because some or the other feel that they have the right on post of JTO and they approach court and the court gives a stay.And BSNL also is in no mood to vacate the stay.
So in this case we should look for some greener pastures beyond the premises of court and see if there is some middle path.
And what Anand has suggested has certainly something to be given a deep thought by all.

Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511

From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 12:26:55 PM

Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!

Dear Friends!!

This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.

Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.

We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.

As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.

The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:

Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.

Let us first see who stake holders are:

1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
　
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9

3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.

The proposed solution :

OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.

We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.

Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.

BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.

Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.

LICE should be conducted regularly.

Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.

These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.

Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.

May god bless us to achieve our goal .

Thanks for your time!!!!

Kind regards,

V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335

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