Topics in this digest:
1. BSNL challenges TDSAT order on choice of interconnection link
From: Amit Bhatti
2a. Re: Please clarify
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
3a. Re: very important (reply kindly)
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
3b. Re: very important (reply kindly)
From: Khalid Syed
4. URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
From: Sandip Solanki
5.1. Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: V.K.Anand
5.2. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
From: amit sharma
6a. Re: Give max advt for this years TTA recruitment.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7a. Re: problem regards NIC card
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7b. Re: problem regards NIC card
From: sathappan natraj
7c. Re: problem regards NIC card
From: Anupreet Singh
8a. Re: "motive" the killer software
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
8b. Re: "motive" the killer software
From: M K SAHA
9a. Re: regarding HBA from BSNL.
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
10. INFLUENZA: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
11. Out door Wi-Max
From: prasad
12. Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
From: M K SAHA
13. NETWORK CABLE UNPLUGGED MESSSAGE
From: laxman kumar
14. Nearly 100 people have applied to join telecom operators MTNL and BS
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
15. (no subject)
From: Santosh J. Devadiga
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1. BSNL challenges TDSAT order on choice of interconnection link
Posted by: "Amit Bhatti" amitbhatti21@yahoo.com amitbhatti21
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:37 am ((PDT))
BSNL challenges TDSAT order on choice of interconnection link 16 Aug 2010, 1828 hrs IST,PTI
NEW DELHI: State-owned BSNL on Monday moved the Supreme Court against an order of telecom tribunal TDSAT, directing it to provide interconnection to Anil Ambani group firm Reliance Communications through copper-based link.
BSNL petition was mentioned before a bench, comprising justice P Sathasivam and justice BS Chauhan, which said that it would consider the matter after hearing it.
It observed that as TDSAT had passed the order in May 2009 and has been implemented, there was no urgency in the matter.
"Stay is not possible at this stage. Now you (BSNL) are seeking stay after implementation of the order (TDSAT's)" the bench said.
Telecom operators have to interconnect their networks with one another either through active link, based on Optical Fiber Link (OFL) or passive link, which uses old copper wire.
Telcos pay one another infrastructure charges for network interconnection.
BSNL submitted that OFL is presently the best medium that is based on advanced technology and unlike copper wire link, signals on it are not disrupted by the outside sources such as electricity, rain and humidity.
RCom approached TDSAT in 2005 challenging BSNL's demand notice and requesting the tribunal to direct the state-owned firm to provide interconnection to it on passive links.
Rcom contended that choice of the link should depend on the seeker and not on the interconnection provider like BSNL. This was allowed by TDSAT on May 11, 2009.
"TDSAT completely erred in holding that the choice of interconnection link is that of the interconnection seeker," BSNL submitted in its petition, adding "choice of the type of interconnection link is that of the interconnection provider and can not be of the interconnection seeker".
BSNL further submitted that it would "have to incur substantial investments for providing passive links".
It also raised questions over TDSAT's observation that "there is no difference in quality of service" whether the link is active or passive.
"The conclusion of TDSAT that there is no rationality for insistence on the part of BSNL on active link is completely erroneous misconceived and based on an incorrect assumption... TDSAT order deserved to be set aside," said BSNL in its petition before the Apex Court.
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2a. Re: Please clarify
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:38 am ((PDT))
hi.
pls file RTI and get the desired answer and then share the reply with all
of us.
We all know that TTA post is for (minimum) Diploma Level but B.Tech and
M.Tech can also appear for TTA external exam.
by the way if B.tech/M.Tech holder can sit in the exam then why not
B.SC./Msc. Electronics.??
Higher degree in the the same stream is eligible to apply as far as my
knowledge is concerned.
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh*
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:28 PM, manojkumar k.v. <mkkv27@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>
> As per presant RR Msc Electronics without BSC physics or Mathematics is not
> eligible for JTO Internal Exam
>
> Manojkuar.K.V
> CS Kerala 9496297397
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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3a. Re: very important (reply kindly)
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:39 am ((PDT))
hi Inder Versha..
i think i talked to u last year also.
anyway, you can give me ur contact no or mbl no. whatever u like, i will
call u soon.
in the meantime u can call Mr.Hakam Singh, our Circle Secretary SNATTA, if
the case is genuine and feasible he will help you.
see there are lots of transfer cases and other personal cases pending in
BSNL but every case is different and handling of each case is looked after
on their merit. You should first meet your Distt Secretary SNATTA and BSNLEU
and see their response.
i will surly call u, just give me any of ur contact no.
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Inder Versha <inder_versha@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> hello sir
> from last 2 years as i am requesting for my tranfer from bathinda to
> chandigarh to GM Bathinda but he is not forwarding my application
> i wanted to talk to you regarding this
> sir can i get your contact number
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *To:* Bandhan Preet Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Fri, 13 August, 2010 11:15:10 PM
> *Subject:* TTABSNL Harassment of woman official--General Manager of BSNL
> suspended
>
>
>
> *Harassment of woman official
> General manager of BSNL suspended
> *
>
> Ambala, August 12
> The BSNL authorities in its order today suspended RK Dabra, general
> manager, posted here in the office of BSNL in a harassment case.
>
> AK Gupta, chief general manager (telephones) (CGMT), today confirmed the
> suspension of Dabra, against whom a protest was held yesterday in connection
> with misbehaviour with a woman junior telecom officer who recently joined
> her duty at Ambala office.
>
> She complained to other staff members that he called her and harassed her
> daily. Then the agitated staff members, including the BSNL Employees Union,
> went to his office and investigated the matter.
>
> A demonstration was also held in front of the GM office demanding immediate
> action against the general manager.
>
> Union leaders, including Rajinder and Manish, who raised the issue with the
> chief general manager AK Gupta, complained that Dabra not only misbehaved
> with the aggrieved woman official but also tried to make advances towards
> her. The JTO had joined only three days back and was working under the
> general manager.
>
> The union has reported the matter to the National Women Commission. They
> also threatened if action against the erring GM was not taken within 24
> hours, they would go on strike.
>
> However, the CGMT took the matter seriously and constituted a three-member
> committee of women officers and union leaders and asked them to submit the
> report soon.
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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3b. Re: very important (reply kindly)
Posted by: "Khalid Syed" ktechbsnl02@yahoo.in ktechbsnl02
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:08 am ((PDT))
without taking any internal exam how can management conduct JTO exam, we all DR-TTA should file a case to stop it, first they will take internal Exam ,then goes for external JTO exam.
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4. URGENT Delegation Fees for AIC - Goa
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:40 am ((PDT))
Hello ALL !!!
Despite of all issues which are currently most favourite in Yahoo Group, I feel
now the follwing Topic is to be discussed now up to 1st Oct.
SUBMITTING DELEGATION FEES FOR AIC
I am surprised that no one accept GUJARAT have submitted the delegation fees for
AIC to Maharashtra Circle.
We should think about our HOST ( MAHARASHTRA ). It will not be easy to arrange
the AIC without fund for Maharashtra Circle.
Keep all things on side.
Think about the AIC now. Help Maharashtra Circle in arrangements for AIC...
I expect comments from all ACTIVE MEMBERS of Yahoo Groups on the matter so that
all circles try to do it fast...
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
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5.1. Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "V.K.Anand" vkanand810@yahoo.com vkanand810
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:42 am ((PDT))
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am
sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda
of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible.
Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable.
But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough
weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of
new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some
thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that
figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be
very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top
posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince
the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a
win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs
.BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered
against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit
list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union
(NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these
left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before
regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of
JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but
correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to
fill up the vacancies fast.
　
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are
waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list.
Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG
163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3
The proposed solution :
* OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
* We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of
following demands.
* Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
* BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now
only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if
RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the
vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample
vacancies will be unfilled.
* Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down
eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as
2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
* LICE should be conducted regularly.
* Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed
AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like
we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain
7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain
support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and
BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a
very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this
. We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to
explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I
hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335 .DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in
vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch
in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might
slightly differ with other circles.
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5.2. Re: Solution to the dedlock !!!!
Posted by: "amit sharma" a1amit2005@yahoo.com a1amit2005
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:04 am ((PDT))
Hi..
Good to see your views and efforts for the cadre...
One thing i want to ask..
if there will be no or very less external vacancy of jto for next 5 to 7 years or for any other reason there will be no recruitment for some more years in DRJTO cader .. than from where the internal post will be created.. who will gurantee that post will be created for internal candidates and our newly recruited TTA will get that.. AT that time Mg-mt. will say .. there is no vacancy left for internal competition..
i just have a doubt on this ...
it seems to me that the situation resembles what actually happening in Kashmir... after 1947 some one came up with the idea NOW, to give away KASHMIR... after sacrificing many soilders/paramiltary personnel s.. so that the rest of the country remain in peace.. but there are many problem in our country likewise CHINA for Arunachal Pardesh and LINE OF ACTUAL CONTROL ....
Let Kashmir go..(which is already half due to POK) but who will guarantee about China for Arunachal and LOAC..((((((((( don't take my comments otherwise..Please.. )))))))))
let WE sacrifice some no. for diversion and after that if we still didn't ABLE to get any thing.. you can never know .. this is BSNL..
I don't have any doubts on your intentions Mr. Anand but i have on our Mgmt..
Also, i don't know exactly the technicality of the possibilities... .Mr.Dhiraj/ Mr Abhilash/Mr.Verma/Mr. Vikas/Mr.Bhandhan and many more our prestigious members/CHQ might be having some expert comment on this...
Regards,
Amit
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Solution to the dedlock !!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:26 PM
Dear Friends!!
This is great to know that National conference is set to be held at GOA. I am sure this is going to be a historical one.
Let me take this opportunity to initiate discussion on the most important agenda of "JTO LICE". We have seen and done all possible things to make it possible. Our unity, Strength, ability to resource funds and perseverance is remarkable. But sadly all these dedicated efforts have to born any fruit till now.
We are fighting cases but reality at the moment is that JTO LICE is in rough weather. This is not only affecting 1st or 2nd batch but is killing the moral of new recruits as well. I have collected some information and after giving some thought developed some idea of solving the deadlock. Please remember that figures I am going to give might not be accurate or the solution might not be very attractive. I feel that now we need some middle path to solve the problem.
As many of us know that Beneficiaries of diversion (OJTOS) is occupying top posts in almost all Non executive unions and this makes it difficult to convince the management and end loops of courts cases. I think we need to device a win-win situation for all stake holders.
The brief story of Diversion, Jto lice and Ojtos:
Pre 2000 management conducted a screening test to fill internal post of JTOs .BSNL took undertaking from each candidate that they will not be considered against vacancies of 2001 onwards. Vacancies were filled according to merit list. Many of them passed but were low in merit list. In subsequent years Union (NFTE) pressurized the management to divert some posts and accommodate these left out people. They were sent on training and given officiating as JTO before regularization. We won diversion case and now these diversions are pending.
Let us first see who stake holders are:
1. Management: Needs man power, as per one information 9200 internal post of JTOs are lying vacant till March 2009. (This figure might not be accurate but correct figure is with CHQ I guess). With new projects Management will need to fill up the vacancies fast.
　
2.OJTOS : Officiating JTOs waiting for regularization. A total of 2173 OJTOs are waiting for regularization as on date. Eight Circles has no waiting list. Details are as follows:
KRL 398 ,AP 293, MHR 208 , GJR 107 , WB 95 ,UPE 70, HRN 24,KTK 316,TND 258,MPCHG 163,COLCTD 104 ,RJST 75,CHTD 53,JK 9
3.DR TTA : We all recruited by Bsnl after yr .2000. 1st batch in vacancy against 2000( people joined till 2005 against waiting list), 2nd batch in 2007, 3ed batch in 2009.( This detail is as per Jharkahnd circle. this might slightly differ with other circles.
The proposed solution :
OJTOs lift CAT Ernakulam case . We lift Contempt of court case.
We allow one time diversion of 2173 waiting OJTOs subject to fulfillment of following demands.
Still vacancies left =9200-2173= 7027.
BSNL conducts the LICE/Screening test as per revised RR.As it is the case now only 1st batch is eligible. 2nd batch will be eligible in 2014 or in 2012 ( if RR is revised to 5 years). Since 1st batch strength will be far less then the vacancy management can be convinced to conduct screening test only. Still ample vacancies will be unfilled.
Sighting these unfilled vacancies RR could be further revised to bring down eligibility criteria to 5 years. SO the next Exam could be conducted as soon as 2nd batch completes 5 years i.e. in 1012. and so on for coming batches.
LICE should be conducted regularly.
Special relaxation of 2 years may be granted for those who have completed AMIE/ Degree.
These steps might not look very attractive instantly. In first go it looks like we are back tracking. But believe me friends in lieu of 2173 posts we might gain 7027 and many more vacancies after 2009 and so on. This solution will gain support of OJTOs and most of unions as OJTOs are active in FNTO, NFTE, TEPU and BSNLEU.
Having said that I still understand that it is a tough task. This will require a very strong will and effort, negotiation , meetings and what not to achieve this . We at jharkhand have already started discussion with different Union to explore the possibility of implementation.
I request each of my friends old and new to Read this , think and discuss. I hope CHQ will think over it.
May god bless us to achieve our goal .
Thanks for your time!!!!
Kind regards,
V.K.Anand
TTA MSC , Jharkhand
9431103335
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6a. Re: Give max advt for this years TTA recruitment.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:57 am ((PDT))
hi..
totally agree with you.
we all need to tell our near and dear ones who are technically qualified
about this exam.
give wide publicity when official orders come .
bandhan
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:29 PM, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> As you all know the process for TTA recruitment have began in
> the background. Let us give max advt for this. Please inform your friends
> who are well qualified. Let the best people with new "professional views"
> join with us.
>
> --
> Vineeth Adolph
> Telecom Technical Assistant
> (WiMax/WLL,Alleppey)
> Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
> (A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7a. Re: problem regards NIC card
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:06 am ((PDT))
hi,
first of all tell us operating system of the system and whether it is 32 or
64 bit.??
second see the configuration of the NIC whether SID and NID is defined
properly.
*bandhan preet singh*
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Rajendra Choudhary <ttabjla@yahoo.in>wrote:
>
>
> hi friends
>
> i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
>
> 11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
> 11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
> 11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
> 11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
> 11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
>
> even no order is pending and signal is also ok
>
> please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
>
> from
>
> Rajendra Choudhary
> TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
> +91 9414857273
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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7b. Re: problem regards NIC card
Posted by: "sathappan natraj" your_satu@yahoo.co.in your_satu
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:05 am ((PDT))
intra msc option must be ticked in kenanfx
Sathappan Natraj
--- On Tue, 17/8/10, Rajendra Choudhary <ttabjla@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Rajendra Choudhary <ttabjla@yahoo.in>
Subject: TTABSNL problem regards NIC card
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 11:13 AM
hi friends
i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
even no order is pending and signal is also ok
please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
from
Rajendra Choudhary
TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
+91 9414857273
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7c. Re: problem regards NIC card
Posted by: "Anupreet Singh" gogian123456@yahoo.com gogian123456
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:05 am ((PDT))
HI...PLEASE CHECK THE PROGRAMING OF DEVICE....(NIC)
OR CALL ME....
Thanks and warm Regards
Er. ANUPREET SINGH
BSNL (SWITCHING & 3G & CDMA)
Reachable @ 09465177055(GURDASPUR)
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL problem regards NIC card
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
hi,
first of all tell us operating system of the system and whether it is 32 or 64 bit.??
second see the configuration of the NIC whether SID and NID is defined properly.
bandhan preet singh
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Rajendra Choudhary <ttabjla@yahoo.in> wrote:
hi friends
i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
even no order is pending and signal is also ok
please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
from
Rajendra Choudhary
TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
+91 9414857273
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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8a. Re: "motive" the killer software
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:02 am ((PDT))
hi Saha,
first of all whatever u said about yourself is true i agree with your words
because one can easily guess from one's expertise and knowledge about
his/her devotion and sincerity.* Every word spoken by you is highly regarded
*.
now come to the second point, *You are trying to say that whatever GS
Prahlad said to the CMD about Motive software is just rumour*. i don't think
so... the Idea of Motive is good but implementation is poor. i dont wana
discuss this issue more on yahoo but you can share your knowledge about this
subject so we all can be enlightened about this key issue.
lastly,* i have attached one file with this mail regarding CDR Project
Problems faced by BSNL employees. You can read how BSNL has mismanaged the
whole project.*
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh*
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:26 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Bandhan!
> My section is NIB Node. That does not mean that I work behind desk. Here,
> in Siliguri, from TTA to SDE, everybody goes to field, visit customers'
> premises, do the MDF testing, laising with outdoor people, do all the indoor
> fault finding, external fault finding etc. If you see my details in SNATTA
> database, you will see what and how much work we do. And believe me, there
> is no extra things mentioned there. Actually, it is less. Here, I can create
> a customer, create VPNoBB connections, disconnection-reconnection online,
> Plan change, closing etc. in both platform, BNG operation, DSLAM monitoring,
> fault finding, just to name a few we do here.
> A person gets posting like Siliguri NIB is a lifetime oppurtunity. Here we
> do all things together. Being posted here since last 3 years and presently
> longest among all I have to know everything.
> That does not prevent me to go out and attend customers at their premises
> also.
> BSNL arranges for various type of training always. But, some of us try to
> avoid sometimes thinking that we already know the subject beforehand. Even I
> also used to think like that. But, once I attended one course, I could know
> the differences. Always try to attend some course relating your duty. You
> will find there is always something extra thrown in.
> 'Lesser known' - is not for offending someone. Motive, even enforced in a
> small way, will some how reduce our workload.
> Once a customer's modem gets registered, if he/she make a complaint, you
> can see it in the portal. For any customer, making several complaints, you
> can see all the previous records also. You can remote login to the modem, no
> matter what the modem password is, can make changes in userid/password,
> reboot the modem in factory mode etc.
> For UTSTARCOM modems, the motive software does configure the modem using
> only your user id and telephone no. customer need not remeber his/her
> password. motive even configures your outlook express using your multiplay
> email id.
>
>
>
> *mANAs kUMAr sAHa*
>
> *TTA*
>
> *NIB Node*
>
> *Siliguri*
>
> *West Bengal*
>
> *(0)94343-09229*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sat, August 14, 2010 12:07:08 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>
>
>
> *hi Saha,
>
> *Your last line of the mail said it all.*
> only the lesser known will try to avoid this.*
>
> as we all TTAs are lesser known about this particular motive sw so we will
> definitely avoid it to make our User in discomfort. Until and unless we all
> Field BB TTAs get proper training we wont try this.
>
> as u already accepted that u have got lot of training in Broadband
> technologies so for you it would be a child play. but what about Others
> lesser known..??
> *see you are a NIB TTA even then u got training and we are field BB TTAs
> and we dont even know the purpose of this sw.*
>
> The flow of information is always a weak link in BSNL functioning. i hope
> u will agree with this point.
>
> i know ur SDO, JTO or ur own willingness to attend the Training might have
> gave u knowledge about this sw or other technical points
>
> we the BB TTAs have lot of work in field and seldom get time to attend
> training. *We mostly rely on our social and technical network to resolve
> our day-to-day problems.*
>
> anyway..if any one knows anything useful then pls share with us on this
> group.
>
>
> regards,
> Bandhan Preet Singh
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Bandhan!
>> I didn't expect this from you atleast. As per your own declaration, you
>> are the top most Broadband Engineer in Mohali/Chandigarh. I am from small
>> city Called Siliguri, in North Bengal, West Bengal.
>> I have done both Phase I and Phase 2 vendor Training at BRBRAITT and RTTC,
>> Chennai, Training were given By HCL, UTSTARCOM, IBM and Siemens (now
>> Noika-Siemens). There was even some one day training on ADSL & Motive by
>> UTSTARCOM in NBSCTTC, Kalyani, where, DGM (BB) from Bangalore and from Noida
>> were present.
>> In Pahse I training, only Motive details and screen shots were given. In
>> the workshop at Kalyani, total steps were explained step-by-step and shown
>> by doing practically.
>> The Motive Software is supposed to make the direct complaint level to
>> Broadband section by upto 70 percent. Who ever completes the total process,
>> gets his/her modem registered in our server, so that any Broadband support
>> personnel or call centre can remote monitor the modem and do the
>> rectificationc online.
>> After installing Motive, it also install BSNL Self Care software, which,
>> in case of any connectivity or browsing issue, the customer should take help
>> of this software which will try to repair the connection.
>> In case the BSNL Self care software is unable to repair, it will generate
>> a 16 digit Error key no. (which will contain answers of 41 questions about
>> the properties and settings of the computer. The subscriber need to give
>> this no to Call center employee which will feed this no in Special Portal,
>> where instantly, all the 41 answers will be available to the Call center
>> employee. ( which in any case, is not possible to question and get answer
>> from subscriber), and will try to repair the problem.
>>
>> It is another matter, that not all the modems are not yet compatible. Also
>> remedy works only with Win 2000 and Win XP. BSNL has not yet applied for Win
>> Vista or Win 7 version.
>> I myself, have tested all these procedures and done the remote login also.
>>
>> It is a very good software. only the lesser known will try to avoid this.
>>
>>
>>
>> *mANAs kUMAr sAHa*
>>
>> *TTA*
>>
>> *NIB Node*
>>
>> *Siliguri*
>>
>> *West Bengal*
>>
>> *(0)94343-09229*
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Thu, August 12, 2010 10:38:17 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>>
>>
>>
>> hi..
>> the GS prahlad has raised some good points abt "Motive" Software. now we
>> need to find out whether it was BSNL Mgmt's motive (plan) to kill the BB
>> connections or somebody else hidden motive (plan).
>> we are also facing such problem in our BB network but we clearly
>> instructed all our BB users to never Install and configure any software
>> without our prior permission but still some of them have tried it out of
>> curiosity.
>>
>> and u all know Curiosity Kills the CAT.
>>
>> some of the users tried it without actual going through pros and cons of
>> the software document and ultimately made their BB non-working.
>> nobody from BSNL ever issued any instructions or guidelines regarding this
>> piece of software nor imparted any training to any TTA.
>> Whoever made this "Motive" software has poorly observed the functioning of
>> BSNL BB connections.
>>
>> regards,
>> Bandhan Preet Singh
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dinesh Soni <sonidineshjpr@ymail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> [Attachment(s)<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html?bn=470&.intl=in&.lang=en-US#12a671e8e7ee7bbe_TopText>from Dinesh Soni included below]
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> see how the motine is killer s/w.
>>> Right now we don't know the benifits of it but
>>> A lot of BB connections r converting in to disconnection now due to this
>>> s/w.
>>>
>>>
>>> Attched leter is from aibsnleachq pl read it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dinesh soni
>>> TTA Broad band
>>> Jodhpur
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bandhan Preet Singh,
>> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>>
>> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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8b. Re: "motive" the killer software
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:08 am ((PDT))
Dear Shanti,
Once the subscriber's modem is registered in Motive, if the link is available,
even if Broadband is not working, you can log in to the modem.
Next, about repairing the fault, if you have gone through the whole mail, there
you could see taht I have mentioned about 'BSNL Self support software' which in
case fault is not rectified by it, it generates a 16 digit code about
subscriber's computer, containing answers of 41 questions, which any body will
agree is not possible to question and get answers from subscriber. He will simpy
run away. Call centre people or support personnel feed this 16 digit code in the
portal and gets the whole picture. Now, it is another story that our call center
people are not good enough, only we can do this job better.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
________________________________
From: shanu saini <shanu_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 4:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
dear. saha
B. P. singh ai right
I have not joined any training of BB but I am sure that no software can
connect to your modem when your internet connection is got down so why all this
can work to help customer because only 10 % problem came in picture to customer
when internet connection is OK but net was not working so all this " fuzulkharch
" like CDR-Project when
no telephone connection has left to billed
Shanti
Prakash
TTA
SARDARSHAHAR RAJSTHAN
09461605858
--- On Sat, 14/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
>From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 12:07 PM
>
>
>
>hi Saha,
>
>Your last line of the mail said it all.
>only the lesser known will try to avoid this.
>
>as we all TTAs are lesser known about this particular motive sw so we will
>definitely avoid it to make our User in discomfort. Until and unless we all
>Field BB TTAs get proper training we wont try this.
>
>as u already accepted that u have got lot of training in Broadband technologies
>so for you it would be a child play. but what about Others lesser known..??
>see you are a NIB TTA even then u got training and we are field BB TTAs and we
>dont even know the purpose of this sw.
>
>The flow of information is always a weak link in BSNL functioning.i hope u will
>agree with this point.
>
>i know ur SDO, JTO or ur own willingness to attend the Training might have gave
>u knowledge about this sw or other technical points
>
>we the BB TTAs have lot of work in field and seldom get time to attend training.
>We mostly rely on our social and technical network to resolve our day-to-day
>problems.
>
>anyway..if any one knows anything useful then pls share with us on this group.
>
>
>regards,
>Bandhan Preet Singh
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Dear Bandhan!
>>I didn't expect this from you atleast. As per your own declaration, you are the
>>top most Broadband Engineer in Mohali/Chandigarh. I am from small city Called
>>Siliguri, in North Bengal, West Bengal.
>>I have done both Phase I and Phase 2 vendor Training at BRBRAITT and RTTC,
>>Chennai, Training were given By HCL, UTSTARCOM, IBM and Siemens (now
>>Noika-Siemens). There was even some one day training on ADSL & Motive by
>>UTSTARCOM in NBSCTTC, Kalyani, where, DGM (BB) from Bangalore and from Noida
>>were present.
>>
>>In Pahse I training, only Motive details and screen shots were given. In the
>>workshop at Kalyani, total steps were explained step-by-step and shown by doing
>>practically.
>>The Motive Software is supposed to make the direct complaint level to Broadband
>>section by upto 70 percent. Who ever completes the total process, gets his/her
>>modem registered in our server, so that any Broadband support personnel or call
>>centre can remote monitor the modem and do the rectificationc online.
>>After installing Motive, it also install BSNL Self Care software, which, in case
>>of any connectivity or browsing issue, the customer should take help of this
>>software which will try to repair the connection.
>>In case the BSNL Self care software is unable to repair, it will generate a 16
>>digit Error key no. (which will contain answers of 41 questions about the
>>properties and settings of the computer. The subscriber need to give this no to
>>Call center employee which will feed this no in Special Portal, where instantly,
>>all the 41 answers will be available to the Call center employee. ( which in any
>>case, is not possible to question and get answer from subscriber), and will try
>>to repair the problem.
>>
>>It is another matter, that not all the modems are not yet compatible. Also
>>remedy works only with Win 2000 and Win XP. BSNL has not yet applied for Win
>>Vista or Win 7 version.
>>I myself, have tested all these procedures and done the remote login also.
>>It is a very good software. only the lesser known will try to avoid this.
>>
>>
>>mANAs kUMAr sAHa
>>TTA
>>NIB Node
>>Siliguri
>>West Bengal
>>(0)94343-09229
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:38:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>>
>>
>>hi..
>>the GS prahlad has raised some good points abt "Motive" Software. now we need to
>>find out whether it was BSNL Mgmt's motive (plan) to kill the BB connections or
>>somebody else hidden motive (plan).
>>we are also facing such problem in our BB network but we clearly instructed all
>>our BB users to never Install and configure any software without our prior
>>permission but still some of them have tried it out of curiosity.
>>
>>
>>and u all know Curiosity Kills the CAT.
>>
>>some of the users tried it without actual going through pros and cons of the
>>software document and ultimately made their BB non-working.
>>nobody from BSNL ever issued any instructions or guidelines regarding this piece
>>of software nor imparted any training to any TTA.
>>Whoever made this "Motive" software has poorly observed the functioning of BSNL
>>BB connections.
>>
>>regards,
>>Bandhan Preet Singh
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dinesh Soni <sonidineshjpr@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>[Attachment(s) from Dinesh Soni included below]
>>>Hi
>>>see how the motine is killer s/w.
>>>Right now we don't know the benifits of it but
>>>A lot of BB connections r converting in to disconnection now due to this s/w.
>>>
>>>
>>>Attched leter is from aibsnleachq pl read it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dinesh soni
>>>TTA Broad band
>>>Jodhpur
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>regards,
>>
>>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>>Think Different...Think Good..!!
>>
>>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>regards,
>
>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
>Think Different...Think Good..!!
>
>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
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9a. Re: regarding HBA from BSNL.
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:03 am ((PDT))
HBA loan from UBI is much cheaper than Canara & others, moreover UBI employees are more co-operative. But if you you want personal loan then take it from canara. I have uploaded MOU with both banks, compare it.
: sudesh
--- On Mon, 16/8/10, Bhushan Dhanesha <bhdhanesha@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Bhushan Dhanesha <bhdhanesha@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL regarding HBA from BSNL.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 16 August, 2010, 3:08 PM
Batter if you go for UBI loan. It has Tie UP with BSNL & providing HBA at cheaper rates and higher margin (upto 95%) loans.
Bhushan Dhanesha
TTA,RAJKOT.
--- On Thu, 8/12/10, arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL regarding HBA from BSNL.
To: "TTA GROUP" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:42 AM
I want HBA(house building advance)from our department but no body give me full information about i.e maximum what amount i have to take from department and what interest i paid and also i want to know what is EMI for this.For hba what procedure we have to do and is there is cheaper than bank or not , if any boby take advance from department then please give me full details and procedure.
yours
ARUN KUMAR SINGH
ARA,BIHAR
9431083555
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10. INFLUENZA: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:03 am ((PDT))
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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11. Out door Wi-Max
Posted by: "prasad" prasad_rtsh@yahoo.co.in prasad_rtsh
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:09 am ((PDT))
I have facing problem in outdoor Wi-max . The LAN shows Unpluged. I have changed many RJ-45 cable but problem is same.
Ritesh Ranjan Prasad
TTA Kotkhai
Shimla
94591-27134
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12. Broadband fault detection with Aurora Presto
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:10 am ((PDT))
Hi all!
We the people working in Broadband section in field, how many of us take
help of Aurora Presto, the ADSL Tester. It was supplied by UTSTAR COM to all
over India. This is very useful to check the line parameters etc, in outdoor
like DP, Pillar or cabinet, where no power supply or Laptop is required. It is
not required for day-to-day operation, but to solve critical fault this is just
great. It operates in Battery, has got a built in Modem etc.
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229
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13. NETWORK CABLE UNPLUGGED MESSSAGE
Posted by: "laxman kumar" blaxman_76@yahoo.com blaxman_76
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:26 am ((PDT))
Some times if the lancard speed is not matching with modem port speed
network cable unplugged message will appear
try below steps
open lan properties
click advanced
select property speed&Duplex
set or vary the value to 10 Mb full or 10 mb haif
click ok
then verify it may work
regards
B.LAXMAN KUMAR
TTA BB,GUNTUR,A.P.
9441205600
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14. Nearly 100 people have applied to join telecom operators MTNL and BS
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:26 am ((PDT))
Nearly 100 applicants for state telco top jobs
Nearly 100 people have applied to join state-owned telecom operators
Mahanagar Telecom Nigam Ltd (MTNL) and Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) as
chairman and managing director (CMD).
Monday was the last date for receiving applications for the vacant posts.
"There have been almost 100 applications received from both government as
well as private sector individuals," a senior official at the department of
telecommunications (DoT) said.
"Most applicants are senior officials within MTNL and BSNL. Around 25 of the
applicants are from BSNL only—mainly of the senior deputy director general
rank and above," a second DoT official said. "There are some senior DoT
officials who have also applied."
Both officials requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the issue.
The position of CMD has been vacant at MTNL, which operates in New Delhi and
Mumbai, since January—when R.S.P. Sinha resigned. Director, technology,
Kuldip Singh has been acting CMD since then.
At BSNL, the top post was vacated by Kuldip Goyal who completed his tenure
on 31 July. Gopal Das, director, human resources, has been acting CMD since.
Both acting CMDs are among the applicants, the second DoT official said.
Last month, the government formed a six-member committee headed by cabinet
secretary K.M. Chandrasekhar to search for new CMDs for the two service
providers.
The panel will scrutinize the applications and shortlist five candidates
before making a final selection by 30 September—to be approved by the
cabinet committee of appointments.
The monthly salary of the CMDs is in the range of `80,000-125,000, while the
annual cost to the company is `30 lakh. This does not include
performance-related pay, which could be as much as 200% of basic salary,
based on the profitability of the companies.
Benefits include a furnished house in central Delhi, or house rent allowance
at 30% of basic pay.
The search panel is open to hiring individuals from the private sector, as
suggested by the Sam Pitroda committee that looked into the operations of
BSNL.
But only a few such individuals have applied as the two loss-making
operators are unable to pay salaries as high as the private sector.
The search panel includes Shantanu Consul, secretary, department of
personnel; P.J. Thomas, secretary, DoT; professor Ashok Jhunjhunwala from
the Indian Institute of Technology, Chennai; Prof. Sameer Barua from the
Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad; and Prof. N. Balakrishnan from
the Indian Institute of Sciences, Bangalore.
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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15. (no subject)
Posted by: "Santosh J. Devadiga" sjd_4u@yahoo.com sjd_4u
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:28 am ((PDT))
Dear frnds,
I anyone has drivers of HUAWEI NIC card for windows 7 pls arrange to upload.
regards,
Santosh J. Devadiga.
CDMA MSC Nasik.
9422268970
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