Tuesday, August 17, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1859[4 Attachments]

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: second saturday
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
1b. Re: second saturday
From: polavarapu ranganath

2. Latest Good News Update from www.SNATTA.org
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

3a. Re: OPERATION INJUSTICE
From: JASVIR JASSAL

4. HEMOGLOBIN: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

5a. Re: "motive" the killer software
From: M K SAHA
5b. Re: "motive" the killer software
From: bsnl_chd
5c. Re: "motive" the killer software
From: shanu saini

6a. Re: WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS
From: avijit biswas
6b. Re: WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS
From: ajay bahri

7a. Re: regarding HBA from BSNL.
From: Bhushan Dhanesha

8. SC directs telcos to inform it of their liabilities to BSNL
From: Amit Bhatti

9. problem regards NIC card
From: Rajendra Choudhary

10. Give max advt for this years TTA recruitment.
From: vineeth adolph

11. Blackberry for Officers and Not even a Strawberry for Officials.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

12. A letter written to Namboodiri to remeber that always demand FITMENT
From: santosh anand

13. BSNL to seek nod for buying Chinese gear
From: Amit Bhatti

14.1. MUTUAL TRANSFER
From: nagaraj7317

15. Villagers dial cells, hang up on landlines
From: Amit Bhatti

16. Re: Fw: Re: ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Gola Singh

17a. Re: NEW AGREEMENT WITH UNION BANK FOE ALL TYPE OF LOANS [1 Attachmen
From: koticha kinjan

18. Recruitment of Director (HRD) post in Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

19. Problem Regards NIC
From: Rajendra Choudhary

20. LOW BLOOD PRESSURE: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

21a. Re: ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: surinder mittal


Messages
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1a. Re: second saturday
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:59 am ((PDT))

hi friends,

Pls check the attachment, i have attached the *BSNL Duty and Day
Timings*pls see it
.

regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh*


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:37 PM, bally <ballypb@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> hello dear
> what is the rullimg regarding second saturday
> who is entitle for this
> sde/jto working in group section are entitle or not
> if any bodybody wants to go for departmental training for personal
> upgradation in field in which they presently working what is the procedure
> balkaran singh
> sri muktsar sahib
> punjab
> 9417345152
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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1b. Re: second saturday
Posted by: "polavarapu ranganath" p_rchowdary@yahoo.com p_rchowdary
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:18 am ((PDT))

just visit website training.bsnl.co.in and check the trainings available and
apply through proper channel

________________________________
From: bally <ballypb@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 9:37:13 PM
Subject: TTABSNL second saturday


hello dear
what is the rullimg regarding second saturday
who is entitle for this
sde/jto working in group section are entitle or not
if any bodybody wants to go for departmental training for personal
upgradation in field in which they presently working what is the procedure
balkaran singh
sri muktsar sahib
punjab
9417345152



Messages in this topic (8)
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2. Latest Good News Update from www.SNATTA.org
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:59 am ((PDT))

* Dt 15-08-2010SNATTA CHQ writes to our Dear CMD, Shri Gopal Das to pave the
way for an early conduct of JTO LICE by vacating the stay given by Hon. CAT
at E'Klam. Click here <http://snatta.org/news/JTO_LICE_ISSUE.pdf>*

* Dt 15-08-2010Very Urgent message regarding All India Conference*

In view of the upcoming AIC we have created a new email account as below,

aictta2010@gmail.com

We request all CS to mail the details of thier delegates on the above email
id. The information should contain.

Name / Mobile No./ Date & time of arrival / Train no.of arrival / Station of
Alighting / Date and time of Departure / Train no of departure / Station of
boarding / total no. of days of stay / With family (yes/no) / Any addl info.
The info may please be given in excel sheet.

We have planned book separate hotel for delegates coming with family.

Amit A Kulkarni,
Circle Secretary, SNATTA MH
BSNL Jalgaon(M.S).
09422296933.
0257-2010170

* Dt 14-08-2010Circle Conference of Haryana. SNATTA was conducted
successfully on 08.08.2010. CHQ congratulates Shri Dalbir Singh, Shri.
Rakesh Saklani, Shri. Umed Saini on being elected as Circle President,
Circle Secretary and Circle Treasurer respectively. Shri Hardeep Singh
outgoing CS deserves a wonderful praise on conducting such a democratic
Circle Conference. For list of the office bearers, see Circle Body link.*


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (1)
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3a. Re: OPERATION INJUSTICE
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:01 am ((PDT))

 
 
 
Chq leaders,
 
 
 
                 Now it become a national matter , the case of  pritpal singh ,so you are requested  to please solve at higher level , this is because  THE NCM MEETING AT delhi is very near i.e 31-8-10  also it is PRESTIGE OF SNATTA NOW.The local LCM & RCM are very far away so for pretige of snatta please solve the case as early as possible.
 
 
Jasvir jassal,
Jalandhar,
9417434555..

--- On Thu, 12/8/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 3:54 AM


 


11-08-2010The CEC of punjab circle was conducted at Bharat Nagar Telephone Exchange. Click here for detail report
           CIRCLE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING 
 
                        On Dated 08-08-2010 at Ludhiana .
 
 
Circle Executive Meeting of Punjab Circle took place in the Bharat Nagar Telephone Exchange, Ludhiana on dated 08-08-2010.The Circle & Districts office bearers of all ssa except Amritsar were participated in the CEC. The D.S   of Amritsar sash's already conveyed their full support to any decision to be taken in CEC.
 
                                   The meeting was presided over by sh. Ram Kumar Bhatt ji. The main agenda of the CEC was as given below-
 
1.  Issues related to the JTO LICE.
2.  Funds.
3.  Functioning of the Circle/ SSAs of SNATTA-Punjab.
4.  Effects of 2nd Wage Revision especially for New TTAs.
5.  Court cases related to JTO LICE.
6.   EPF Matters & Resolutions.
7.  AIC-GOA.
 
The details representation regarding SNATTA was given by our Centarl-Cordinator sh. Tejinder pal singh ji. The information regarding wage revision in details was given by Circle Secretary Punjab , Sh. Hakam Singh.
 
The following Resolutions were UNAMINOUSLY   passed by CEC—
 

Fund Collection of 500/- each by all members of SNATTA-PUNJAB. It is for the purposes of COURT CASES , AIC-GOA etc.
The case of sh. PRITPAL SINGH, District-President- Snatta of HSR-SSA, for sanchar sewa padak  must be resolved at earliest & also informed to GS-SNATTA to discuss the same with chq of BSNLEU on 9 August,2010 .
The Major Charge-sheet case to sh. Vishal Mehndroo of Ferozepur ssa must be resolved.
The case of new ttas for wage revision loss must be resolved.
It was decided that 2 ttas from all ssas & 3 from circle body members will participate in AIC-GOA as DELEGATES FROM PUNJAB .
It was decided to continue the same CEC of SNATTA-PUNJAB with present status.
 
 The votes of thanks was given by S. Inderpreet Singh from sangrur ssa. His dynamic presence affected the each member.
 
 
Dt 10-08-2010Shri. Dharmendra Verma, General Secretary, SNATTA discussed the issue of injustice done to Sh. Pritpal Singh TTA (Sales), Punjab in awarding the Sanchar Seva padak for his exemplary performances with Comrade P. Abhimanyu, General Secretary, BSNLEU. He promised to follow the issue genuinely with his Circle Secretary, Sh. Balbir Singh and get the justice to Er. Pritpal Singh. Sh. Hakam Singh, Circle Secretary is humbly requested to be in constant touch with Sh. Balbir Singh Ji in regard with this issue and see to it that Sh. Pritpal Singh gets justice at any cost. The forum of LCM and RJCM should be effectively utilised for the same.
 
I m really thankful to CHQ punjab regading including my case in CEC agenda along with the reduction of wages of new TTAs, which must be solved within time frame as well as possible. Happy to see the stand and action of GS SNATTA regarding my case. I am more happy if this communication between two GS takes place last month. Secondly I want to told our worthy GS that when i raise this point to CGM then there will be no need to discuss this matter in LCM and RCM as the both meeting will be conducted after 2 or 3 month, upto that we have to win this battle at any cost. So its my humble request to Worthy GS that kindly raise this voice to NCM with print out copies of data for betterment of TTA cadre and also so that it will not repeat in whole India. I am very much assure your goodself that it will not repeat in Punjab because this case is already very much highlighted by CC Hakam Singh Ji and in SSA Hoshiarpur by me. Its very interesting to know now in
HSP SSA everybody knows about my case and my action, now they think hundred times when i raise any point.


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Baljinder Singh <baljinderbsnl@ yahoo.in> wrote:


From: Baljinder Singh <baljinderbsnl@ yahoo.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 8 August, 2010, 5:40 PM


 


HELLO DEAR PRITPAL, you are doing good job nobody (executive and non-executive) in punjab can compete you. So in practicle situation you are the solid man with great posture. Go Ahead.

 
 
 
 
 
BALJINDER SINGH
TTA NABHA.
-- On Sat, 7/8/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "hakam singh" <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>, snattapunjab@ gmail.com, snattachq@gmail. com
Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 6:42 PM


 


Hello Friends
Nice Lines by CHANAKYA---- ----
 
YOU R BORN WITHOUT ANYTHING
BUT U DIE WITH YOUR NAME
SO THAT NAME MUST NOT BE A WORD
IT MUST BE A HISTORY...
Friends this opeartion made me that type of GOLA
JO JA TO JAL JAYEGA JA FIR JALA DEGA
 
I have to won this opearation at any cost for the welfare of my beloved group.I m calm and very much silent when i m busy in my work but when i hear a word injustice then my aggressiveness force me to do something.
Last month one TM unluckily got a HEARTATTACK in the MDF section when i know this I immidiately rush towards hospital. Docter told me that ABI ATTACK AA RAHA HAI MAINE INJECTION NAHI LAGAYA AAP IMMIDIATELY JALLANDHAR le jao App. 30 km from my Exchange.BUT Jallandhar is my adjacent SSA and in our SSA no HEART SPECIALIST Hospital with modern technology.Luckily PRUTHI HOSPITAL where we refered empenelled by BSNL we told them we are from BSNL they asked for identity card we told them that we show u shortly then they give us letter for permission from CGM as treatment we are taking from another SSA. I immidiately contact and fax the document to HSP SSA for permission. That day i came to know the negative metality of our staff and officers. I fax the document arround 2 pm so that they fax the same to circle for permission but SDE(HRD) doing mothing. I already send SMS regarding this incident to GM and DGMs.
they waist one day and next day when i call SDE(HRD) and other staff of there section they told me that it takes four to five days.EK Ne yeh keh diya agar marta hai to mar jaye rules are rules by hearing this type of wording i immidaitely called the DGM and asked only one question Sir Will HRD section wait for TM Surinder singh came to ur office or ur office waiting for his wife? by hearing these words DGM immidiately called the DE(admn) and send the document for approval.With again in aggressiveness i contact with circle with the help of DE and on the same date got back fax for approval.
Then i call the SDE(HRD) HAAN JI SIR WE GOT IT ON SAME DAY THEN SDE became silent and he had no words to say
 
MY dear friends every case want some special attraction and angerness also without that we cant won any battale. We people what doing if one person fighting then others will see them like spectaters only as we did in the past when only our EX GS going to CO for our demands, which was wrong and now we are doing the same. JUst think for what purpose we voted to powerful union if two persons are moving for fighting us in the court then we have to doing something with the help of union.We just now depending on courts. I wanna to know why we voted if all things deciding in the courts.
 
Whether our CHQ ever demanding from CHQ BSNLEU organise one special Dharna for the demand of only TTAs or right any letter regarding this.Friends if it happends then whole picture will be changed beacuse in DISTT we hundred percent success the DHARNAS and strike.What we are doing this only for supporting only powerful union only whether our demands are in the agenda or not
I requesting our GS to exercise on this organise Dharna if they are not agree give them ultimatum we taking our support back. I m hundred percent if we are just writing a simple letter to CHQ BSNLEU that we are going to arrange a dharna for our promotion my dear friends management cant punish us when we are in bulk and this powerful union then came in field for saving us for there voting bank also they can see our GUTS and power. Nothing we got with a simple letter.
 
SO MY DEAR CHQ
For  all this we want strong WILLPOWER AND GUTS and ofcourse we have to break silence over many issues including my case. I have give u the strong platform just break silence for the better future of our friends.
 
GUD NIGHT TO ALL
 
 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sat, 7/8/10, rajani kartik <rajanikartik@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:


From: rajani kartik <rajanikartik@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 1:59 PM


 

my dear friend.
 
I am reading ur mail since longtime and each and every mail u r blaming somebody with words that u can also fight urself. Now i want to know that after writing first time that u can fight alone, what is the step of ur fighting alone. Don't misunderstand me but please calm down.

kartik rajani
=919427150900

--- On Fri, 6/8/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: "hakam singh" <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Date: Friday, 6 August, 2010, 10:40 PM


Hello Friends,
 
 SNATTA is a  Association made for  fight against injustice but i m sorry to say that now days many of us including our Worthy GS silence against injustice done to me. My dear friends i already told this to CHQ that this type of Injustice not only done on me its on the whole cadre but sill they dont take any action accept one letter wrote by our Worthy President.This is exactly like that when we raise any demand then CHQ BSNLEU write a letter to Management after that what we got nothing. I wanna to ask know what is the difference between union action and association action.
My Dear friends
 
IMPOSSIBLE DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE
IT ACTUALLY MEANS THAT NOBODY HAS DONE IT SO FOR...
WE ARE BORN TO BREAK THE LIMITS.
 
Friends all we running behind only one demand that we became JTOs but friends just think can we perfect TTAs when i ask this  keeping in view of injustice result my friends knows more than me.I dont know for what purpose then we demanded this post,It means if BSNL gift us a post of JTO then we should offer our faces to ITS officrers for slapping  beacuse we know if we raise a voice against injustice then they punish us.
 
Just Remember the CANDLE MARCH of direct JTOs, they do that with guts and with below noted MOTTO:
 
SARFROSHI KI TAMANNA AB HAMARE DIL MEIN HAI
DEKHNA HAI JOR KITNA BAJUE KATIL MEIN HAI
 
And what we are doing from 7-8 years only suppressing the voice by saying that if we did that management will take action against us. Friends I raise the voice,inspite of supporting they trying to down my moral by saying that management may take action against u as my friend PREET BANDHAN told me, but i dont afraid from any type of action.
 
Friends ITS officers still very joint as in my case they showed incuding CGM Punjab by  supporting DGM but shut their mouth in front of my hardwork but i m sorry to say that we are sill not joint when injustice done with anyone from we just seeing like a cricket match as my silent friends and Worthy GS did till now.I wanna to know why JAC silent on this issue if any non executive or JAC  memeber doing this type of delay then management must issued him a chargesheet.
 
I wanna to inform that very shortly i will raise my voice in front of Worthy CMD then my silent friends and worthy GS knows about 'GUTS AND POWER OF TTA CADRE"
 
 
 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sat, 31/7/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 31 July, 2010, 1:44 PM


 


Dear Hakam ji
 
First of all i am really greatful and appreciate the way you have taken up my  case to Circle level. One thing i must clear that i dont want any type of award now,as letter from CC BSNLEU shows i want only justice so that no other my friend face this type of injustice as this is very painful to accept. In my case i ask from every body including worthy CGM only one question Sir, what was my fault ? This is the question that no body answer because mistake done by DGM shut the mouth of all.Therefore i requesting u to plz represent my case only for justice  because it will be more painful for Sh. Preet Bandhan  whose name already sent to circle as i confirmed from reliable sources which i cant do.Dear If sonia Gandhi ji leave a chair of PM then why cant I  leave the Award ? But i always fighting against injustice till we got justice.


 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 

--- On Sat, 31/7/10, Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab <circlesecretarypunj ab@gmail. com>
Subject: TTABSNL OPERATION INJUSTICE [1 Attachment]
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 31 July, 2010, 10:31 AM


 

 
 
Dear Pritpal,
 
                  First of all , i really appreciate & salute your hard work for BSNL after breaking MUM ON THIS TOPIC , started by you since 22-7-2010.As you know that DPC for this award has completed & the same has sent to CO-DELHI on 17-7-2010.Your case has reached at circle office chandigarh on 19-7-2010 after GREAT COOPERATION FROM GMT(HSP).
 
                                                                                                                                           I really appreciate your GUTS by which you have handle this case of INJUSTICE & give preference to SNATTA platform TO HANDLE THIS CASE , our CGM is very much impressed by your hard-work for BSNL . You are A REAL HERO of SNATTA-PUNJAB.
 
 
                                                                                                                                          You have represented your case of injustice to CHQ SNATTA & ME , CS-BSNLEU Mr. BALBIR SINGH JI HAS WRITTEN A STRONG LETTER TO CGM ON 27-7-2010  WITH MY ALL EFFORTS . I HOPE YOU WILL MUST GET JUSTICE VERY SOON & REQUEST TO CHQ - SNATTA THAT PLEASE TAKE THE CASE WITH CHQ-BSNLEU SO THAT THIS OPERATION INJUSTICE WILL COMPLETE SUCCESSFULLY & SO THAT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN TO ANY MEMBER OF SNATTA THROUGH BSNL. 
 
 
Note- COPY OF LETTER TO CGM-PUNJAB BY CS-BSNLEU-PB, Mr. Balbir Singh Ji.
 
 
With Regards,
CS-SNATTA-PB,
9417277177.
 

Messages in this topic (13)
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4. HEMOGLOBIN: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:02 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (1)
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5a. Re: "motive" the killer software
Posted by: "M K SAHA" maansaha@yahoo.com maansaha
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:04 am ((PDT))

Dear Bandhan!
My section is NIB Node. That does not mean that I work behind desk. Here, in
Siliguri, from TTA to SDE, everybody goes to field, visit customers' premises,
do the MDF testing, laising with outdoor people, do all the indoor fault
finding, external fault finding etc. If you see my details in SNATTA database,
you will see what and how much work we do. And believe me, there is no extra
things mentioned there. Actually, it is less. Here, I can create a customer,
create VPNoBB connections, disconnection-reconnection online, Plan change,
closing etc. in both platform, BNG operation, DSLAM monitoring, fault finding,
just to name a few we do here.
A person gets posting like Siliguri NIB is a lifetime oppurtunity. Here we do
all things together. Being posted here since last 3 years and presently longest
among all I have to know everything.
That does not prevent me to go out and attend customers at their premises also.
BSNL arranges for various type of training always. But, some of us try to avoid
sometimes thinking that we already know the subject beforehand. Even I also used
to think like that. But, once I attended one course, I could know the
differences. Always try to attend some course relating your duty. You will find
there is always something extra thrown in.
'Lesser known' - is not for offending someone. Motive, even enforced in a small
way, will some how reduce our workload.

Once a customer's modem gets registered, if he/she make a complaint, you can see
it in the portal. For any customer, making several complaints, you can see all
the previous records also. You can remote login to the modem, no matter what the
modem password is, can make changes in userid/password, reboot the modem in
factory mode etc.
For UTSTARCOM modems, the motive software does configure the modem using only
your user id and telephone no. customer need not remeber his/her password.
motive even configures your outlook express using your multiplay email id.

 
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229
 


________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 12:07:08 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software

 
hi Saha,

Your last line of the mail said it all.
only the lesser known will try to avoid this.

as we all TTAs are lesser known about this particular motive sw so we will
definitely avoid it to make our User in discomfort. Until and unless we all
Field BB TTAs get proper training we wont try this.

as u already accepted that u have got lot of training in Broadband technologies
so for you it would be a child play. but what about Others lesser known..??
see you are a NIB TTA even then u got training and we are field BB TTAs and we
dont even know the purpose of this sw.

The flow of information is always a weak link in BSNL functioning.i hope u will
agree with this point.

i know ur SDO, JTO or ur own willingness to attend the Training might have gave
u knowledge about this sw or other technical points

we the BB TTAs have lot of work in field and seldom get time to attend training.
We mostly rely on our social and technical network to resolve our day-to-day
problems.

anyway..if any one knows anything useful then pls share with us on this group.


regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
>Dear Bandhan!
>I didn't expect this from you atleast. As per your own declaration, you are the
>top most Broadband Engineer in Mohali/Chandigarh. I am from small city Called
>Siliguri, in North Bengal, West Bengal.
>I have done both Phase I and Phase 2 vendor Training at BRBRAITT and RTTC,
>Chennai, Training were given By HCL, UTSTARCOM, IBM and Siemens (now
>Noika-Siemens). There was even some one day training on ADSL & Motive by
>UTSTARCOM in NBSCTTC, Kalyani, where, DGM (BB) from Bangalore and from Noida
>were present.
>
>In Pahse I training, only Motive details and screen shots were given. In the
>workshop at Kalyani, total steps were explained step-by-step and shown by doing
>practically.
>The Motive Software is supposed to make the direct complaint level to Broadband
>section by upto 70 percent. Who ever completes the total process, gets his/her
>modem registered in our server, so that any Broadband support personnel or call
>centre can remote monitor the modem and do the rectificationc online.
>After installing Motive, it also install BSNL Self Care software, which, in case
>of any connectivity or browsing issue, the customer should take help of this
>software which will try to repair the connection.
>In case the BSNL Self care software is unable to repair, it will generate a 16
>digit Error key no. (which will contain answers of 41 questions about the
>properties and settings of the computer. The subscriber need to give this no to
>Call center employee which will feed this no in Special Portal, where instantly,
>all the 41 answers will be available to the Call center employee. ( which in any
>case, is not possible to question and get answer from subscriber), and will try
>to repair the problem.
>
>It is another matter, that not all the modems are not yet compatible. Also
>remedy works only with Win 2000 and Win XP. BSNL has not yet applied for Win
>Vista or Win 7 version.
>I myself, have tested all these procedures and done the remote login also.
>It is a very good software. only the lesser known will try to avoid this.
>

>mANAs kUMAr sAHa
>TTA
>NIB Node
>Siliguri
>West Bengal
>(0)94343-09229 
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:38:17 PM
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>

>hi..
>the GS prahlad has raised some good points abt "Motive" Software. now we need to
>find out whether it was BSNL Mgmt's motive (plan) to kill the BB connections or
>somebody else hidden motive (plan).
>we are also facing such problem in our BB network but we clearly instructed all
>our BB users to never Install and configure any software without our prior
>permission but still some of them have tried it out of curiosity.
>
>
>and u all know Curiosity Kills the CAT.
>
>some of the users tried it without actual going through pros and cons of the
>software document and ultimately made their BB non-working.
>nobody from BSNL ever issued any instructions or guidelines regarding this piece
>of software nor imparted any training to any TTA.
>Whoever made this "Motive" software has poorly observed the functioning of BSNL
>BB connections.
>
>regards,
>Bandhan Preet Singh
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dinesh Soni <sonidineshjpr@ymail.com> wrote:
>

>>[Attachment(s) from Dinesh Soni included below]
>>Hi
>>see how the motine is killer s/w.
>>Right now we don't know the benifits of it but
>>A lot of BB connections r converting in to disconnection now due to this s/w.
>>
>>
>>Attched leter is from aibsnleachq pl read it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dinesh soni
>>TTA Broad band
>>Jodhpur
>>
>
>
>--
>regards,
>
>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
>Think Different...Think Good..!! 
>   
>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
>


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!! 
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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5b. Re: "motive" the killer software
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

dear saha,

i just want to correct one point here that i have never ever declared
that i am the top most broadband engineer in mhl/chd. Putting words into
my mouth is wrong.

see its viewers perception whether he/she regards me or not. i am just
doing my duty with devotion as other TTAs does or as u r doing. its as
simple as that. the writing of some articles on broadband technologies
and answering hundreds queries does not make me TOP MOST. A TTA may
remain TTA in BSNL atleast. (I really don't want to leave BSNL as i am
getting emotionally attached to it but i am seeing the day is not far
when i have to say good-bye to BSNL as i am seeing no Promotional Growth
Prospects in this company anymore. If JTO LICE conducts and if i cleared
it then i will remain with BSNL.)

nobody is perfect and i am trying to be perfect, in some areas i rely
upon others (colleagues) and vice-versa. The only thing that gives me
edge over others is my NEVER-SAY-DIE-ATTITUDE alongwith my Marketing
Skills and Computer Proficiency.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, M K SAHA <maansaha@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Bandhan!
> I didn't expect this from you atleast. As per your own declaration,
you are the
> top most Broadband Engineer in Mohali/Chandigarh. I am from small city
Called
> Siliguri, in North Bengal, West Bengal.
> I have done both Phase I and Phase 2 vendor Training at BRBRAITT
and RTTC,
> Chennai, Training were given By HCL, UTSTARCOM, IBM and
Siemens (now
> Noika-Siemens). There was even some one day training on ADSL &
Motive by
> UTSTARCOM in NBSCTTC, Kalyani, where, DGM (BB) from Bangalore and from
Noida
> were present.
>
> In Pahse I training, only Motive details and screen shots were given.
In the
> workshop at Kalyani, total steps were explained step-by-step and shown
by doing
> practically.
> The Motive Software is supposed to make the direct complaint level to
Broadband
> section by upto 70 percent. Who ever completes the total process, gets
his/her
> modem registered in our server, so that any Broadband support
personnel or call
> centre can remote monitor the modem and do the rectificationc online.
> After installing Motive, it also install BSNL Self Care software,
which, in case
> of any connectivity or browsing issue, the customer should take help
of this
> software which will try to repair the connection.
> In case the BSNL Self care software is unable to repair, it will
generate a 16
> digit Error key no. (which will contain answers of 41 questions about
the
> properties and settings of the computer. The subscriber need to give
this no to
> Call center employee which will feed this no in Special Portal, where
instantly,
> all the 41 answers will be available to the Call center employee. (
which in any
> case, is not possible to question and get answer from subscriber), and
will try
> to repair the problem.
>
> It is another matter, that not all the modems are not yet compatible.
Also
> remedy works only with Win 2000 and Win XP. BSNL has not yet applied
for Win
> Vista or Win 7 version.
> I myself, have tested all these procedures and done the remote login
also.
> It is a very good software. only the lesser known will try to avoid
this.
>
> Â
> mANAs kUMAr sAHa
> TTA
> NIB Node
> Siliguri
> West Bengal
> (0)94343-09229Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:38:17 PM
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
>
> Â
> hi..
> the GS prahlad has raised some good points abt "Motive" Software. now
we need to
> find out whether it was BSNL Mgmt's motive (plan) to kill the BB
connections or
> somebody else hidden motive (plan).
> we are also facing such problem in our BB network but we clearly
instructed all
> our BB users to never Install and configure any software without our
prior
> permission but still some of them have tried it out of curiosity.
>
>
> and u all know Curiosity Kills the CAT.
>
> some of the users tried it without actual going through pros and cons
of the
> software document and ultimately made their BB non-working.
> nobody from BSNL ever issued any instructions or guidelines regarding
this piece
> of software nor imparted any training to any TTA.
> Whoever made this "Motive" software has poorly observed the
functioning of BSNL
> BB connections.
>
> regards,
> Bandhan Preet Singh
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dinesh Soni <sonidineshjpr@...>
wrote:
>
> Â
> >[Attachment(s) from Dinesh Soni included below]
> >Hi
> >see how the motine is killer s/w.
> >Right now we don't know the benifits of it but
> >A lot of BB connections r converting in to disconnection now due to
this s/w.
> >
> >
> >Attched leter is from aibsnleachq pl read it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dinesh soni
> >TTA Broad band
> >Jodhpur
> >
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different...Think Good..!!Â
> Â Â
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,  DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>


Messages in this topic (7)
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5c. Re: "motive" the killer software
Posted by: "shanu saini" shanu_bsnl@yahoo.co.in shanu_bsnl
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:37 am ((PDT))

dear. saha
                 B. P. singh  ai right
      I have not joined any training of BB but I am sure that no software can connect to your modem when your internet connection is got down so why all this can work to help customer because only 10 % problem came in picture to customer when internet connection is OK but net was not working so all this " fuzulkharch " like CDR-Project when
no telephone connection has left to billed
                                                                      Shanti Prakash
                                                                     TTA SARDARSHAHAR RAJSTHAN
                                                                       09461605858

--- On Sat, 14/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 12:07 PM


 

hi Saha,

Your last line of the mail said it all.
only the lesser known will try to avoid this.

as we all TTAs are lesser known about this particular motive sw so we will definitely avoid it to make our User in discomfort. Until and unless we all Field BB TTAs get proper training we wont try this.

as u already accepted that u have got lot of training in Broadband technologies so for you it would be a child play. but what about Others lesser known..??
see you are a NIB TTA even then u got training and we are field BB TTAs and we dont even know the purpose of this sw.

The flow of information is always a weak link in BSNL functioning. i hope u will agree with this point.

i know ur SDO, JTO or ur own willingness to attend the Training might have gave u knowledge about this sw or other technical points

we the BB TTAs have lot of work in field and seldom get time to attend training. We mostly rely on our social and technical network to resolve our day-to-day problems.

anyway..if any one knows anything useful then pls share with us on this group.


regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:


 


Dear Bandhan!
I didn't expect this from you atleast. As per your own declaration, you are the top most Broadband Engineer in Mohali/Chandigarh. I am from small city Called Siliguri, in North Bengal, West Bengal.
I have done both Phase I and Phase 2 vendor Training at BRBRAITT and RTTC, Chennai, Training were given By HCL, UTSTARCOM, IBM and Siemens (now Noika-Siemens). There was even some one day training on ADSL & Motive by UTSTARCOM in NBSCTTC, Kalyani, where, DGM (BB) from Bangalore and from Noida were present.
In Pahse I training, only Motive details and screen shots were given. In the workshop at Kalyani, total steps were explained step-by-step and shown by doing practically.
The Motive Software is supposed to make the direct complaint level to Broadband section by upto 70 percent. Who ever completes the total process, gets his/her modem registered in our server, so that any Broadband support personnel or call centre can remote monitor the modem and do the rectificationc online.
After installing Motive, it also install BSNL Self Care software, which, in case of any connectivity or browsing issue, the customer should take help of this software which will try to repair the connection.
In case the BSNL Self care software is unable to repair, it will generate a 16 digit Error key no. (which will contain answers of 41 questions about the properties and settings of the computer. The subscriber need to give this no to Call center employee which will feed this no in Special Portal, where instantly, all the 41 answers will be available to the Call center employee. ( which in any case, is not possible to question and get answer from subscriber), and will try to repair the problem.
 
It is another matter, that not all the modems are not yet compatible. Also remedy works only with Win 2000 and Win XP. BSNL has not yet applied for Win Vista or Win 7 version.
I myself, have tested all these procedures and done the remote login also.
It is a very good software. only the lesser known will try to avoid this.

 
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229 


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:38:17 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL "motive" the killer software

 

hi..
the GS prahlad has raised some good points abt "Motive" Software. now we need to find out whether it was BSNL Mgmt's motive (plan) to kill the BB connections or somebody else hidden motive (plan).
we are also facing such problem in our BB network but we clearly instructed all our BB users to never Install and configure any software without our prior permission but still some of them have tried it out of curiosity.

and u all know Curiosity Kills the CAT.

some of the users tried it without actual going through pros and cons of the software document and ultimately made their BB non-working.
nobody from BSNL ever issued any instructions or guidelines regarding this piece of software nor imparted any training to any TTA.
Whoever made this "Motive" software has poorly observed the functioning of BSNL BB connections.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dinesh Soni <sonidineshjpr@ymail.com> wrote:


 


[Attachment(s) from Dinesh Soni included below]

Hi
see how the motine is killer s/w.
Right now we don't know the benifits of it but
A lot of BB connections r converting in to disconnection now due to this s/w.
 
 
Attched leter is from aibsnleachq pl read it.
 
 
 
 
 
Dinesh soni
TTA Broad band
Jodhpur


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!! 
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!! 
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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6a. Re: WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS
Posted by: "avijit biswas" avijit_rio@yahoo.co.in avijit_rio
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:04 am ((PDT))

Hi ,
I think you may use ipconfig/all command in cmd mode.you have got the wi-max
cpe mac address.

Avijit Biswas
TTA/KALYANI


________________________________
From: M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 10:33:47 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS


For all Normal Broadband CPEs, the Mac ids, nowadays, can be located on the
sticker under modem which contains Serial No. etc.
As for as Wi-Max, it might be the same, though I don't know for sure. We don't
have any Wi-Max yet in our SSA. It will be coming in next phase.

mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229


________________________________
From: swarup <swarup_raju2007@rediffmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 9:37:17 PM
Subject: TTABSNL WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS


PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE WHAT IS IS THE MAC ADDRESS OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR WI-MAX
CPE.

swarup

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6b. Re: WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS
Posted by: "ajay bahri" ajay.bahri@yahoo.in ajay.bahri
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:10 am ((PDT))

in usb type it is clearly written on usb device,same in case of indoor cpe.but for outdoor cpe it is located near the signal strength indicator,there are two mac nos noted there but for creation mac address near the indicators are used.

--- On Sun, 15/8/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 1:43 PM

 





hi,

MAC ids can also be seen from configuration page of Wimax CPE. when u login inside u can see various info about the CPE and MAC is also written somewhere like this format XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX

X could be number or alphabet.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:03 PM, M K SAHA <maansaha@yahoo.com> wrote:


 






For all Normal Broadband CPEs, the Mac ids, nowadays, can be located on the sticker under modem which contains Serial No. etc.
As for as Wi-Max, it might be the same, though I don't know for sure. We don't have any Wi-Max yet in our SSA. It will be coming in next phase.
 
mANAs kUMAr sAHa
TTA
NIB Node
Siliguri
West Bengal
(0)94343-09229 


From: swarup <swarup_raju2007@rediffmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 9:37:17 PM
Subject: TTABSNL WI-MAX CPE MAC ADDRESS

 

PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE WHAT IS IS THE MAC ADDRESS OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR WI-MAX CPE.

swarup




--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!! 
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"





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________________________________________________________________________
7a. Re: regarding HBA from BSNL.
Posted by: "Bhushan Dhanesha" bhdhanesha@yahoo.com bhdhanesha
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:06 am ((PDT))

Batter if you go for UBI loan. It has Tie UP  with BSNL & providing HBA at cheaper rates and higher margin (upto 95%) loans.
 
Bhushan Dhanesha
TTA,RAJKOT.

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: arun kumar singh <arunbsnlbxr@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL regarding HBA from BSNL.
To: "TTA GROUP" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:42 AM


 


I want HBA(house building advance)from our department but no body give me full information about i.e maximum what amount i have to take from department and what interest i paid and also i want to know what is EMI for this.For hba what procedure we have to do and is there is cheaper than bank or not , if any boby take advance from department then please give me full details and procedure.
 
                                                                                            yours
                                                                             ARUN KUMAR SINGH
                                                                                   ARA,BIHAR
                                                                                   9431083555


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8. SC directs telcos to inform it of their liabilities to BSNL
Posted by: "Amit Bhatti" amitbhatti21@yahoo.com amitbhatti21
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:07 am ((PDT))

SC directs telcos to inform it of their liabilities to BSNLPress Trust Of India
New Delhi, August 16, 2010First Published: 18:36 IST(16/8/2010)
Last Updated: 18:39 IST(16/8/2010)


The Supreme Court on Monday directed private telecom operators like Vodafone, Idea Cellular and Aircel to file affidavits stating their dues to state-owned BSNL in carriage charges. The court also said telecom operators will have to deposit half the amount claimed by the state-run firm before 
the Supreme Court registry."You would have to show your bona fide and have to submit at least half the amount in the Supreme Court registry ... then only we would stay the TDSAT's order," the court said.A bench comprising Chief Justice SH Kapadia and Justice KS Radhakrishnan directed members of the COAI lobby group, which represents telcos that operate on the GSM technology, to submit a chart of their liabilities to BSNL for the period November 2005 to March 2009."Each of the operator would indicate the exact amount which according to them, they have to give," the bench said.The country's largest operator Bharti Airtel from the GSM side and AUSPI lobby group that represents CDMA-based telcos Reliance Communications and Tata Teleservices have already filed their statements.Solicitor General Gopal Subramanium, appearing for BSNL, informed the apex Court that private telecom operators owe around Rs 470 crore to the PSU.He further submitted that Airtel, Tata
Tele and Reliance alone owe Rs 170 crore to the state owned telco.BSNL levies carriage charges for forwarding calls originating from private telco networks to its own network.The court was hearing two petitions filed by both the lobby groups -- Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI) and Association of Unified Telecom Service Providers of India (AUSPI) -- challenging the order of the telecom tribunal TDSAT.The tribunal has set aside a directive of telecom sector regulator TRAI to pay carriage charges to BSNL on a uniform rate of 20 paise a call for completing intra-circle calls.The Telecom Disputes Settlement and Appellate Tribunal had, on May 21, 2010, set aside TRAI's direction to have a uniform carriage charge of 20 paise for intra-circle calls.According to the operators, TDSAT has also set aside two letters written by TRAI on May 17, 2006 to the PSU and "wrongly allowed BSNL to levy distance-based carriage charges on the appellant instead of
a uniform carriage charge of 20 paise per minute in case of intra-circle".The lobby groups have further submitted that TRAI, in its regulation, had directed BSNL to take 20 paise as carriage charge for all calls for and from private cellular mobile networks."However, in violation of the said IUC Regulation, BSNL was levying a distance-based carriage charge of 65 paise, 90 paise and Rs 1.10 for distance slabs of 50 to 200 km, 200 to 500 km and above 500 km respectively," the operators said.

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9. problem regards NIC card
Posted by: "Rajendra Choudhary" ttabjla@yahoo.in ttabjla
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:08 am ((PDT))

hi friends
 
i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
 
11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
 
even no order is pending and signal is also ok
 
please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
 
from
 
Rajendra Choudhary
TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
+91 9414857273

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10. Give max advt for this years TTA recruitment.
Posted by: "vineeth adolph" vineethadolph@gmail.com vineethadolph
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:15 am ((PDT))

Hi friends,

As you all know the process for TTA recruitment have began in
the background. Let us give max advt for this. Please inform your friends
who are well qualified. Let the best people with new "professional views"
join with us.

--
Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax/WLL,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)


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11. Blackberry for Officers and Not even a Strawberry for Officials.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:17 am ((PDT))

hi friends,
BSNL Mgmt issued orders to provide Blackberry sets to all officers (DGM
onwards).

Blackberry for Officers and Not even a Strawberry for Officials ;-)

What a Order Sir ji..!!!

the Order file is attached.
--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/19331502/item/list

Blackberry for Officers.PDF

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12. A letter written to Namboodiri to remeber that always demand FITMENT
Posted by: "santosh anand" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:17 am ((PDT))


1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/2070100255/item/list

uf-17-08-2010.pdf

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13. BSNL to seek nod for buying Chinese gear
Posted by: "Amit Bhatti" amitbhatti21@yahoo.com amitbhatti21
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:27 am ((PDT))

BSNL to seek nod for buying Chinese gearThomas K ThomasNew Delhi, Aug. 14With the Department of Telecom allowing Reliance Communication to buy equipment from ZTE, the state-run Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd will also seek permission to import gear from Chinese vendors.The public sector unit was forced to keep Chinese vendors out following a ban imposed by the Government due to security reasons. The company is planning to buy equipment for supporting 5 million subscribers and had invited bids only from European and American vendors.Senior BSNL officials said the company will approach the Government seeking clarity on its position on Chinese vendors."On May 14, the DoT wrote us a letter saying that we should not buy from the Chinese. So the tender for the 5-million-line contract was restricted to non-Chinese companies. Now private players are being allowed to buy from Chinese vendors, so we will seek fresh approvals because more competition will enable us to
get better price during the tendering process," an official said.The BSNL employees' union has already shot off a letter to the Cabinet Secretary in this regard. "DoT has barred BSNL from procuring GSM equipment from Chinese vendors while giving unbridled freedom to other private operators to procure equipment from vendors of their commercial choice as if the network of private operators is not prone to security breaches."BSNL is stuck because on the one hand European vendors are refusing to comply with new security considerations format and, on the other, it is forbidden from procuring equipment from Chinese vendors who are format-compliant," said the letter from Mr G. L. Jogi, General Secretary of the Sanchar Nigam Employees Association.

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14.1. MUTUAL TRANSFER
Posted by: "nagaraj7317" nagaraj7317@yahoo.com nagaraj7317
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:28 am ((PDT))

Hi,any body want mutual transfer from BANGALORE SSA to HUBLI SSA.


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15. Villagers dial cells, hang up on landlines
Posted by: "Amit Bhatti" amitbhatti21@yahoo.com amitbhatti21
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:28 am ((PDT))

Villagers dial cells, hang up on landlinesKartikeya, TNN, Aug 15, 2010, 11.57pm IST
MUMBAI: While much of the world, and India, was in the throes of recession, there was one industry that continued to boom-selling mobile phones to India's vast rural population. 

Not only did the sector beat economic downturn but registered an awesome 100% growth rate in the last two years. This is clear from the fact that the number of rural subscribers to BSNL's mobile phone network doubled from 10.13 million in March 2008 to 21.26 million at the end of June 2010. 

Experts say that during the recession, the rural population was not affected as severely by the falling stock market, tighter bank lending or negative growth in other sectors of the economy. 

Thus, one product that consumers in villages continued to buy in millions were mobile phones. Moreover, large parts of rural India still remain poorly connected, which makes a cellphone almost a necessity for maintaining contact with the outside world. 

The importance of the rural market has been recognised by most stakeholders in the mobile phone business. Thus Nokia, the world's largest manufacturer of handsets, announced a microfinance scheme earlier this year, which allows villagers to take small loans to buy handsets. 

Interestingly, data released by Union ministry of communications and information technology also shows that while the rural mobile phone market continued to grow by leaps and bounds in the last two years, the number of landline connections have been falling in each of BSNL's 26 operating circles across the country. 

Therefore, in the first six months of 2010 itself, Uttar Pradesh saw the number of landlines fall sharply by one-third. Maharashtra, too, saw a negative rate of 3.34% in landline subscribers but its cellphone market grew by 4.63%. 

What the mobile phone revolution in rural India has done is also drastically change the teledensity in India's villages. Teledensity is the number of phone connections per 100 people. While it is well known that teledensity in urban India has exploded to more than 90% in the last three years, few are aware of the fact that during the same period, it doubled from 14% to 30% in rural India. 

Increasing use of mobile phones in villages is seen as an opportunity to address the problem of connectivity in many of the country's remote areas. The government is already working on schemes to provide internet accessibility and other value added services to villagers through their cellphones. Experts believe it will help farmers integrate with national market for farm produce and fetch them better prices. 

The Centre for Excellence in Wireless Technology (CEWiT) in Chennai is already working on making it easy for cellphone users in rural India to send SMSes in 22 languages. The project will ensure that villagers do not rely only on voice calls but are able to take to texting as well in a big way. 

Amit Bhatti,

TTA,

SSA Amritsar.

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16. Re: Fw: Re: ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: "Gola Singh" gola.singh@yahoo.com gola.singh
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))

 
 
 
 
dear friends,
 
 
                 some more RUMOURS by ACTIVE / CLEVER  members in ludhiana ssa--
 
1. that hakam singh has met a Disrict Secretary BSNLEU-LUDHIANA  for transfer of FIVE ACTIVE / CLEVER members from URBAN TO RURAL with ill intension.
 
2. that hakam singh is a MAN OF  circle secretary BSNLEU-punjab.
 
3.that hakam singh is harassing the ACTIVE / CLEVER  members BY USING LOCAL LINKS.
 
4.that hakam is not doing a work of BSNL & taking salary for nothing to BSNL.
 
5. that hakam not want to become JTO but he wants to becomes LEADER in BSNL.
 
6.THAT ,  NOT A SINGLE TTA WITH HIM.
 
7. that hakam is a very PROUDY PERSON , he dont want to even talk or shake hand with them.
 
8. that he has no quality of leadership BUT  only have time to serve the cause of SNATTA.
 
9. that hakam divided the whole tta of ludhiana. 
 
      Above are a few RUMOURS which i heard from many members  in a SAME WORDS PATTERN , which means that they are by ACTIVE & CLEVER members. THESE ACTIVE / CLEVER FROM LUDHIANA ARE REALLY A "JHOOTH DIAN PANDAN ". There are a few ACTIVE / CLEVER tta in ludhiana , in next mail I WILL GIVE LIST OF ALL WITH NAME.I am not a P.A of hakam singh but its my duty to present the other side of COIN to CHQ & Friends.
 
Harjinder singh ,
ssa-ludhiana.
 
 


--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 3:24 AM

 
 
My dear Friends,
 
 
                        Since last two years i am listening about the problems of ludhiana friends.Many friends have written about the problem on yahoo platform . I have analysed this problem & found that this game is playing by some CLEVER PERSONs from ludhiana , These members are with continous work , fabricating wrong things to OUR CHQ LEADRES & OTHER FRIENDS OF PUNJAB. They all  are  saying that
 
1. Hakam singh is a SINGLE MAN ARMY.
 
2.Not a single TTA from ludhiana with him , but I DECLARE THAT I AM WITH HAKAM SINGH & REMAIN ALWAYS .
 
3. Hakam  singh has  signed a AGREEMENT OF WAGE BY TAKING MONEY FROM COM NAMBOODIRI , GS -BSNLEU.   BUT on this point i am against all ludhiana friends.
 
                   AT last i want to ask two question to all tta of ludhiana that--
 
1. What you all have done to my charge sheet on minor issue in march-2009 ?
 
2. Exactly after 1 & half year  , 13000/- FINE & SIX MONTH BAR FOR QUATER  to tta of ludhiana Mr. RAMESH YADAV  & charge sheet is ready for delevery , I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR UNITED ACTION TO SOLVE THE ISSUE ?
 
               above two charge sheets are VERY BIG BLACK MARK ON UNITY OF LUDHIANA SSA. so stop fighting against hakam singh , but instead help him to fight for cause of SNATTA & stop  spreding false informations to other friends of other ssa . 
 
 
HARJINDER SINGH ,
SSA-LUDHIANA,
9417217176.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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17a. Re: NEW AGREEMENT WITH UNION BANK FOE ALL TYPE OF LOANS [1 Attachmen
Posted by: "koticha kinjan" kinjan_koticha@yahoo.co.in kinjan_koticha
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:31 am ((PDT))


helloto allin this UBI or canara bank what is benificialn for employee if bsnlinterst rate and all are sameso what extra benifit we will get via this schemeas a departmental canditatethank u KINJAN
--- On Wed, 11/8/10, sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj <lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL NEW AGREEMENT WITH UNION BANK FOE ALL TYPE OF LOANS [1 Attachment]
To: "TTA" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 4:08 PM


 





[Attachment(s) from sudesh kumar bhardwaj included below]


A MOU has been signed with Union Bank of India, valid upto 30-08-2011. See attachment for detail.
: Sudesh Kumar Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg), Amritsar






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18. Recruitment of Director (HRD) post in Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:31 am ((PDT))

*Hi friends,

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited(BSNL)* Applications are invited from Indian
nation in prescribed application format for the *Director (HRD)* post .

*Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited(BSNL) *recruits *Graduates / MBA / Post
Graduate Degree/ Diploma in Personnel* *Management Candidates* For this
Posts *In New Delhi 201*0 .Interested and eligible candidate can *apply for
this post till 6.9.2010*

*Application Are Invited For The Following Post: *

*Director (HRD) *

*Pay Scale:* Rs. 25750-650-30950 (pre-revised)

*Age:* Min 45 years for all & Max 57 years

*Qualification & Experience:*
Graduate with good academic record from a recognized University. Further he
should have at least 2 years cumulative experience during the last ten years
in the designated department at a Senior level in various aspects of
personnel management industrial relations in an organization of repute.
Persons with Post Graduate Degree/ Diploma in Personnel Management or MBA
with specialization in Personnel Management/Industrial Relations as an
elective subject from a recognized university or Institute or Degree in Law
or Industrial Engineering will have an added advantage.
*How To Apply:* In addition to above, Private Sector Executives must submit
the following applications to Secretary, Public Enterprises Selection Board,
Public Enterprises Bhawan, Block No. 14, CGO Complex, Lodhi Road, New
Delhi-110003 on or *before 6.9.2010*

*Details of the POST are Attached also (PDF File).*

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/514277388/item/list

Director HRD.pdf

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19. Problem Regards NIC
Posted by: "Rajendra Choudhary" ttabjla@yahoo.in ttabjla
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:33 am ((PDT))

hi friends
 
i provide a NIC card but when i dial then
 
11:04:14 ==Getting Ready==
11:04:16 ==Openning Port==
11:04:19 ==Port Opened==
11:04:21 ==The remote computer did not respond.
11:04:21 ==Disconnected==
 
even no order is pending and signal is also ok
 
please suggest what problem may be possible and how resolve it.
 
from
 
Rajendra Choudhary
TTA Bijoliya(Bhilwara)
+91 9414857273

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20. LOW BLOOD PRESSURE: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:34 am ((PDT))

-- regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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21a. Re: ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:36 am ((PDT))

dear friend....

what is the case of Mr. Yadav....

please elaborate.....May be some ideas come collectively to protect the chargesheet. please read the rules regarding "how to handle the departmental enquiries..."


think seriously.....

Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
Telecom Technical Assistant
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Punjab Telecom Circle
Abohar (152116)
Reachable @ 09417583939


--- On Fri, 13/8/10, Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Gola Singh <gola.singh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL ALL LUDHIANA FRIENDS LISTEN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com, snattapunjab@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 13 August, 2010, 11:28 AM

 





 
 
My dear Friends,
 
 
                        Since last two years i am listening about the problems of ludhiana friends.Many friends have written about the problem on yahoo platform . I have analysed this problem & found that this game is playing by some CLEVER PERSONs from ludhiana , These members are with continous work , fabricating wrong things to OUR CHQ LEADRES & OTHER FRIENDS OF PUNJAB. They all  are  saying that
 
1. Hakam singh is a SINGLE MAN ARMY.
 
2.Not a single TTA from ludhiana with him , but I DECLARE THAT I AM WITH HAKAM SINGH & REMAIN ALWAYS .
 
3. Hakam  singh has  signed a AGREEMENT OF WAGE BY TAKING MONEY FROM COM NAMBOODIRI , GS -BSNLEU.   BUT on this point i am against all ludhiana friends.
 
                   AT last i want to ask two question to all tta of ludhiana that--
 
1. What you all have done to my charge sheet on minor issue in march-2009 ?
 
2. Exactly after 1 & half year  , 13000/- FINE & SIX MONTH BAR FOR QUATER  to tta of ludhiana Mr. RAMESH YADAV  & charge sheet is ready for delevery , I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR UNITED ACTION TO SOLVE THE ISSUE ?
 
               above two charge sheets are VERY BIG BLACK MARK ON UNITY OF LUDHIANA SSA. so stop fighting against hakam singh , but instead help him to fight for cause of SNATTA & stop  spreding false informations to other friends of other ssa . 
 
 
HARJINDER SINGH ,
SSA-LUDHIANA,
9417217176.
 
 
 
 
 
 
     So from above it is clear that you all are good at WORDS BUT YOUR ACTIONS ARE NOT GOOD .  





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