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1a. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
From: abhilash v
1b. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
From: Sandip Solanki
1c. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
From: shahulhameed noorulameen
2. Mutual transfer from gaya ssa to up[E]
From: kamalasinghy
3a. mobile number portability
From: G S Rajawat
4. Arear calculation for 2007 and before 2007
From: VENKATESAN RAD
5. Distance M.Tech/MBA
From: kiran mekala
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1a. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:43 am ((PST))
Dear Balwant,
Very nice to see your efforts. But I afraid that it will not bring much results. I hope you remember that I had written such letters to Numboodiri and to some Circle leaders regarding the same subject. The danger that hides in the multiplication factor and the heart break of the new TTAs were already brought to their notice. I made many phone calls too. But what happened? The reason of their attitude is bitter to swallow - the BSNLEU leaders felt that there was no complaint from the new comers. Because they didn't hear the new comers voice just because of the fact that most of us kept silence through out in those days. The EU leaders didn't bother about the SNATTA leaders pressure just because they didn't get any pressure or feed back from their local leaders. Many times I asked the new comers to raise their voice in EU's local bodies. But it didn't happen and our friends were interested only in the yahoo group activities. In Kerala, I urged all the
new comers to attend EU's district conferences and explain our issues during the discussion time. But very few friends heard my call(that too only in 4 SSAs). And what happened in other Circles?..
Anyway, forget the past. Even though it seems to be too late, please ask all the new comers to give the letters to the EU's district & branch secretary. Yesterday, our vibrant CHQ leaders went to meet Namboodiri. After the hot discussion Namboodiri agreed to present the matter to the wage committee and as per Hakkam Singhji, Namboodiri raised the pay up gradation issue in the wage committee. But the management rejected the demand. Only the pay loss(if it happens in some case) will be compensated by personal pay. So please draft another letter to management and let all the new TTAs to forward it through the proper channel and send one advanced copy directly.
Abhilash
CC,Kerala.
--- On Wed, 16/12/09, balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
To: inder1986.ias23@gmail.com, "jpshiomuni _" <jpshiomuni@gmail.com>, ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Cc: inder1986.ias23@gmail.com, bsladewalia@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 3:48 PM
[Attachment(s) from balwant singh dhindsa included below]
Regards
BALWANT SINGH
9463271261
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1b. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:37 am ((PST))
Very well said Abhilash,
I always wanted to say this only. If someone want everything just with a quote on yahoo groups, it is not possible. The Voice must be louder ( enough to reach at DELHI ). To talk on Groups is easy.
In some SSAs, New comers are to arrange a meeting on next sunday. They were not free in last 15 days to meet for the matter. This attitude will not yeild the result. The question is of the importance of the issue.
That's all.
Still the efforts should be done at individual level as you said. It might not work but it will give a message to Unions and Management that how AWAKED & UNITED we are.
I appreciate the idea of Abhilash about writing an individual letter to Management and Namoodiri.
Let's do it.
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
--- On Sat, 19/12/09, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 4:50 PM
Dear Balwant,
Very nice to see your efforts. But I afraid that it will not bring much results. I hope you remember that I had written such letters to Numboodiri and to some Circle leaders regarding the same subject. The danger that hides in the multiplication factor and the heart break of the new TTAs were already brought to their notice. I made many phone calls too. But what happened? The reason of their attitude is bitter to swallow - the BSNLEU leaders felt that there was no complaint from the new comers. Because they didn't hear the new comers voice just because of the fact that most of us kept silence through out in those days. The EU leaders didn't bother about the SNATTA leaders pressure just because they didn't get any pressure or feed back from their local leaders. Many times I asked the new comers to raise their voice in EU's local bodies. But it didn't happen and our friends were interested only in the yahoo group activities. In Kerala, I urged all the
new comers to attend EU's district conferences and explain our issues during the discussion time. But very few friends heard my call(that too only in 4 SSAs). And what happened in other Circles?..
Anyway, forget the past. Even though it seems to be too late, please ask all the new comers to give the letters to the EU's district & branch secretary. Yesterday, our vibrant CHQ leaders went to meet Namboodiri. After the hot discussion Namboodiri agreed to present the matter to the wage committee and as per Hakkam Singhji, Namboodiri raised the pay up gradation issue in the wage committee. But the management rejected the demand. Only the pay loss(if it happens in some case) will be compensated by personal pay. So please draft another letter to management and let all the new TTAs to forward it through the proper channel and send one advanced copy directly.
Abhilash
CC,Kerala.
--- On Wed, 16/12/09, balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
To: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, "jpshiomuni _" <jpshiomuni@gmail. com>, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Cc: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. uk
Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 3:48 PM
Regards
BALWANT SINGH
9463271261
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1c. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:54 pm ((PST))
Dear All
After going through a number of mails circulated through our group for over eight months, especially on wage revision, I come to the following conclusion:
Newly recruited TTAs of post 2007 are also active along with other TTAs (if not all, some energetic and enthusiastic like of senior batch too) and normally they watch the latest developments on wage negotiations through either our or bsnleu websites. Also, most of the apprehensions of newly recruited TTAs whenever cropped up, were immediately answered by persons having good knowledge of current situation on the topic and especially by Mr Abhilash, the CC of Kerala without much delay.
In most of the replies, the newly recruited TTAs of post 2007 are given rest assured that the CHQ is doing its best to cover the aspirations of junior TTAs too. .
The following clippings of email will highlight this better.
In Apr 2009, some new TTAs have raised reservations against bsnleu's demand of getting Interim Relief. The reply given was: "we examined all the practical aspects. Remember we have only short term goals, so we are going in the most suitable ways with related to our demands"
On 16/4/2009, the reply given was:"we are trying to get pre-revised scale of Rs 9200 for TTAs which is a new pay scale at N-12"
On 23/4/2009, Mr. Sham Chadda questioned about wage revision to newly recruited TTAs, the reply given on 26/4/2009 was, " There will never be any loss of fitment to newly recruited TTAs, In JTO case, it is only a temporary adjustment and it is going to be revised to Rs. 18850/- and hence, newly recruited TTAs also will be benefited accordingly"
So, keeping in view of pulses of CHQ, the newly recruited TTAs are in the opinion that their interest will be looked after by the recognised union. Atleast two of our SNATTA members are enjoying the office bearer post at District level in BSNLEU. So do u expect that the newly recruited TTAs will be able to turn the table around, the things which could not be done by the entire SNATTA CHQ and the selected reps in BSNLEU? Also, one of our main demands in supporting bsnleu before verification was to get us the highest NE pay scale, and it is shocking that despite our representative in wage committee, presenting a good posture of our legitimate demand for higher pay scale, this was never taken up by the recognised union in any meeting with BSNL Mgt.
We were silent spectators to their sidelining of our demands. So it is needless to blame the junior TTAs for their apathy. Instead, it is cynical to watch that some unions are demanding better pay scale for Sr.TOA, quoting that Degree is a pre-requisite qualification for this cadre, which is superior to Diploma qualification ( It is a mockery that those who are in a degree cadre, are to pass through the pre-screening test, and at times fail to clear screening test, for appearing in departmental TTA Prom exam)
I appreciate that atleast our CHQ has taken up TTAs case now with more vigour, which could have been a bit earlier. Right now we don't have any other option until or unless some miracle happens with new ideas. Atleast guidance in right direction will be a solace to them in their time of obscurity.
Let us hope for the best.
SN Ameen, Riyadh, KSA
00966555802143
--- On Sat, 19/12/09, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 4:50 PM
Dear Balwant,
Very nice to see your efforts. But I afraid that it will not bring much results. I hope you remember that I had written such letters to Numboodiri and to some Circle leaders regarding the same subject. The danger that hides in the multiplication factor and the heart break of the new TTAs were already brought to their notice. I made many phone calls too. But what happened? The reason of their attitude is bitter to swallow - the BSNLEU leaders felt that there was no complaint from the new comers. Because they didn't hear the new comers voice just because of the fact that most of us kept silence through out in those days. The EU leaders didn't bother about the SNATTA leaders pressure just because they didn't get any pressure or feed back from their local leaders. Many times I asked the new comers to raise their voice in EU's local bodies. But it didn't happen and our friends were interested only in the yahoo group activities. In Kerala, I urged all the
new comers to attend EU's district conferences and explain our issues during the discussion time. But very few friends heard my call(that too only in 4 SSAs). And what happened in other Circles?..
Anyway, forget the past. Even though it seems to be too late, please ask all the new comers to give the letters to the EU's district & branch secretary. Yesterday, our vibrant CHQ leaders went to meet Namboodiri. After the hot discussion Namboodiri agreed to present the matter to the wage committee and as per Hakkam Singhji, Namboodiri raised the pay up gradation issue in the wage committee. But the management rejected the demand. Only the pay loss(if it happens in some case) will be compensated by personal pay. So please draft another letter to management and let all the new TTAs to forward it through the proper channel and send one advanced copy directly.
Abhilash
CC,Kerala.
--- On Wed, 16/12/09, balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
To: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, "jpshiomuni _" <jpshiomuni@gmail. com>, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
Cc: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. uk
Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 3:48 PM
Regards
BALWANT SINGH
9463271261
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
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2. Mutual transfer from gaya ssa to up[E]
Posted by: "kamalasinghy" kamalasinghy@yahoo.com kamalasinghy
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:37 am ((PST))
Hi,friends if anybody want mutual transfer from Gaya ssa [Bihar Circle] to UP[E],so kindly contact me-09431618300.
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3a. mobile number portability
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:47 am ((PST))
You may have to wait till April 2010 for mobile number portability
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell +91-9413424883
gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in
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4. Arear calculation for 2007 and before 2007
Posted by: "VENKATESAN RAD" venk212@yahoo.com venk212
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:25 am ((PST))
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5. Distance M.Tech/MBA
Posted by: "kiran mekala" kiran.mekala@gmail.com kiranie14
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:05 am ((PST))
please give information about distance edu.. university's
M.Tech/ MBA
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