Thursday, December 2, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1970[3 Attachments]

There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Forward this
From: abhijit darunkar
1b. Re: Forward this
From: Jasvant Parmar
1c. Re: Forward this
From: abhijit darunkar
1d. Re: Forward this
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

2. Pay slips of TTA2JTO@Rs.21620 in Vijayawada(AP),Nalgonda(AP) and Mum
From: sateesh kumar

3. TRAI Announces New Regulation to Curb Unwanted Calls and SMSes
From: sonu gill

4. Lemon Mobiles Launches W100: Low-cost 3G Phone.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

5.1. File - Datase for TTABSNL group.doc
From: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

6. File - TTABSNL DATABASE.txt
From: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

7. New Telecom minister Kapil Sibal has got cracking on reviving ailing
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

8a. WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
From: pankaj kumar
8b. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
8c. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
From: Pardeep Mathur
8d. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
From: om prakash
8e. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
From: bally singh

9. End of STD Era..?? >>> BSNL offers inter-state calls at local rates.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

10. 2G probe on track, CBI claims has proof.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

11. Some news from NFTE website.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

12. Fw: TTABSNL BSNL network can collapse at anytime
From: arun kumar

13. Why was TRAI silent for two years: Apex court on 2G
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

14. Government orders probe into Radia tape leaks.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Forward this
Posted by: "abhijit darunkar" darunkar@gmail.com abhi6567
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:31 am ((PST))

My dear Jasvant Parmar,
This message is just to create awareness in public.
It is very true that no body will come to you until and unless you
fulfill their requirements.Not even my brother will take our service
until it is satisfying him. ok
but this message is for those people who always keep saying,
that you are a govt company so you have to do this n that,
you give people this n that....
Even private companies like bajaj and hero honda and many more
makes the profit of people's affection towards our country !!!
(buland bharat ki buland tasbir, desh ki dhadkan etc.)
while they have nothing to do with the country by the profit they earned.
but here we are 100 % govt company, each rupee of our profit(if any)
is going towards betterment of our country.
so people should at least know the fact, they buy our product or not
is another thing !
I think it is clear to you now.
bye
Abhijit Darunkar
TTA outdoor
Ahmednagar MH
9422727251

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> My Dear,
> Abhijit Darunkar,
>
> I don't know for which purpose you put this mail,but if we seriously take
> this mail then the thought behind these type of SMSs/Mails reflects our
> negative image.
> A week ago,I also got this message in my
> cellphone.When we stop talking/thinking like this? As per my opinion,If you
> forward this sms to your friends then it will show your devaluation.Do you
> think that your friends will come back to your company which is not
> currently providing better services.So as per my thinking, if we have to go
> to top then we must concentrate on our services.No need to increase the
> "NUMBERS" , only to serve whatever we have the subscriber base.I m really
> sorry if my thoughts not matching with somebody my friends.
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/28/10, abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com>
> Subject: TTABSNL Forward this
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 5:06 AM
>
>
>
> An IDEA user makes BIRLA rich...
>
> A DOCOMO user makes JAPAN prosperous...
>
> A VODAFONE user makes ENGLAND wealthy....
>
> An UNINOR makes NORWAY rich....
>
> A RELIANCE user makes AMBANI happy....
>
> A AIRTEL user makes MITTAL healthy....
>
> BUT........................... .
>
> ONLY A BSNL / MTNL user makes INDIA SAFE,RICH,HAPPY AND HEALTHY .....
>
> So contribute to our nation by subscribing BSNL/MTNL services....
>
> Forward this message to your friends who are using other operators.
>
> Regards,
> Abhijit Darunkar
> TTA outdoor,
> Ahmednagar,MH
> 9422727251
> darunkar@gmail.com
>
>
>
>

--
REGARDS.....
ABHIJIT DARUNKAR....


Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Forward this
Posted by: "Jasvant Parmar" jasvantparmar@ymail.com jasvantparmar@ymail.com
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:46 pm ((PST))

Abhijit Darunkar,
                       I already told you that these are my personal thoughts.You guy dont want to understand the key point behind my topic and trying to right your matter.plz read twice my mail and then come to right decision.I and others TTAs want to improve services of BSNL through our service and that is my key point.Many of my friends reply me to stop SMSs like this and advised me to give the service first.Then I come to this conclusion.ok.
                       You had given example of Hero Honda and bajaj.i think all people know that...but do you know these companies are also providing world class customer satisfaction services.And your SMSs fully sounds like "Emotionally Blackmail"...Now time gone to do the marketing like this..Now subscriber compares his profit/loss and then select the product.I still stuck with my point.I m ready further for your weak and down to earth clarification.


 Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com> wrote:


From: abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL Forward this
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:25 AM


 

My dear Jasvant Parmar,
 This message is just to create awareness in public.
 It is very true that no body will come to you until and unless you 
 fulfill their requirements.Not even my brother will take our service
 until it is satisfying him. ok 
 but this message is for those people who always keep saying,
 that you are a govt company so you have to do this n that,
 you give people this n that....
 Even private companies like bajaj and hero honda and many more
 makes the profit of people's affection towards our country !!!
 (buland bharat ki buland tasbir, desh ki dhadkan etc.)
 while they have nothing to do with the country by the profit they earned.
 but here we are 100 % govt company, each rupee of our profit(if any)
 is going towards betterment of our country.
 so people should at least know the fact, they buy our product or not
 is another thing !
 I think it is clear to you now.
 bye
 Abhijit Darunkar
 TTA outdoor
 Ahmednagar MH
 9422727251


On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com> wrote:


 

My Dear,
Abhijit Darunkar,
I don't know for which purpose you put this mail,but if we seriously take this mail then the thought behind these type of SMSs/Mails reflects our negative image. 
                       A week ago,I also got this message in my cellphone.When we stop talking/thinking like this? As per my opinion,If you forward this sms to your friends then it will show your devaluation.Do you think that your friends will come back to your company which is not currently providing better services.So as per my thinking, if we have to go to top then we must concentrate on our services.No need to increase the "NUMBERS" , only to serve whatever we have the subscriber base.I m really sorry if my thoughts not matching with somebody my friends.
 Jasvant Parmar
TTA(Broadband)
Palanpur-Gujarat
9426655777
 

--- On Sun, 11/28/10, abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com> wrote:


From: abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Forward this
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 5:06 AM

 

An IDEA user makes BIRLA rich...


A DOCOMO user makes JAPAN prosperous...


A VODAFONE user makes ENGLAND wealthy....


An UNINOR makes NORWAY rich....


A RELIANCE user makes AMBANI happy....


A AIRTEL user makes MITTAL healthy....


BUT........................... .


ONLY A BSNL / MTNL user makes INDIA SAFE,RICH,HAPPY AND HEALTHY .....


So contribute to our nation by subscribing BSNL/MTNL services....


Forward this message to your friends who are using other operators.

Regards,
Abhijit Darunkar
TTA outdoor,
Ahmednagar,MH
9422727251
darunkar@gmail.com


--
REGARDS.....
        ABHIJIT DARUNKAR....


Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Forward this
Posted by: "abhijit darunkar" darunkar@gmail.com abhi6567
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 11:02 pm ((PST))

Jasvant Parmar,
I got your point, and I have already said 'even my brother will not our
service if it is not satisfactory for him' and read my message twice,
I have clearly said it is for awarness only. And make one thing clear it
is not going to make any loss.
And not only you work for service improvement i also do the same.
and thanks for your weak and ground to earth reply.

Abhijit Darunkar
TTA outdoor
Ahmednagar MH
9422727251


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Abhijit Darunkar,
> I already told you that these are my personal
> thoughts.You guy dont want to understand the key point behind my topic and
> trying to right your matter.plz read twice my mail and then come to right
> decision.I and others TTAs want to improve services of BSNL through our
> service and that is my key point.Many of my friends reply me to stop SMSs
> like this and advised me to give the service first.Then I come to this
> conclusion.ok.
> You had given example of Hero Honda and bajaj.i
> think all people know that...but do you know these companies are also
> providing world class customer satisfaction services.And your SMSs fully
> sounds like "Emotionally Blackmail"...Now time gone to do the marketing like
> this..Now subscriber compares his profit/loss and then select the product.I
> still stuck with my point.I m ready further for your weak and down to earth
> clarification.
>
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/1/10, abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL Forward this
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:25 AM
>
>
>
> My dear Jasvant Parmar,
> This message is just to create awareness in public.
> It is very true that no body will come to you until and unless you
> fulfill their requirements.Not even my brother will take our service
> until it is satisfying him. ok
> but this message is for those people who always keep saying,
> that you are a govt company so you have to do this n that,
> you give people this n that....
> Even private companies like bajaj and hero honda and many more
> makes the profit of people's affection towards our country !!!
> (buland bharat ki buland tasbir, desh ki dhadkan etc.)
> while they have nothing to do with the country by the profit they earned.
> but here we are 100 % govt company, each rupee of our profit(if any)
> is going towards betterment of our country.
> so people should at least know the fact, they buy our product or not
> is another thing !
> I think it is clear to you now.
> bye
> Abhijit Darunkar
> TTA outdoor
> Ahmednagar MH
> 9422727251
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> My Dear,
> Abhijit Darunkar,
>
> I don't know for which purpose you put this mail,but if we seriously take
> this mail then the thought behind these type of SMSs/Mails reflects our
> negative image.
> A week ago,I also got this message in my
> cellphone.When we stop talking/thinking like this? As per my opinion,If you
> forward this sms to your friends then it will show your devaluation.Do you
> think that your friends will come back to your company which is not
> currently providing better services.So as per my thinking, if we have to go
> to top then we must concentrate on our services.No need to increase the
> "NUMBERS" , only to serve whatever we have the subscriber base.I m really
> sorry if my thoughts not matching with somebody my friends.
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/28/10, abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: TTABSNL Forward this
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 5:06 AM
>
>
>
> An IDEA user makes BIRLA rich...
>
> A DOCOMO user makes JAPAN prosperous...
>
> A VODAFONE user makes ENGLAND wealthy....
>
> An UNINOR makes NORWAY rich....
>
> A RELIANCE user makes AMBANI happy....
>
> A AIRTEL user makes MITTAL healthy....
>
> BUT........................... .
>
> ONLY A BSNL / MTNL user makes INDIA SAFE,RICH,HAPPY AND HEALTHY .....
>
> So contribute to our nation by subscribing BSNL/MTNL services....
>
> Forward this message to your friends who are using other operators.
>
> Regards,
> Abhijit Darunkar
> TTA outdoor,
> Ahmednagar,MH
> 9422727251
> darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> REGARDS.....
> ABHIJIT DARUNKAR....
>
>
>

--
REGARDS.....
ABHIJIT DARUNKAR....


Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________
1d. Re: Forward this
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Dec 2, 2010 2:38 am ((PST))

my dear jasvant,

the first four lines of the reply of abhijit clears it all "This message is
just to create awareness in public.
It is very true that no body will come to you until and unless you
fulfill their requirements.Not even my brother will take our service
until it is satisfying him. ok ".
so i request u to dont dig out much in this topic. you both are right on ur
own way.

regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Abhijit Darunkar,
> I already told you that these are my personal
> thoughts.You guy dont want to understand the key point behind my topic and
> trying to right your matter.plz read twice my mail and then come to right
> decision.I and others TTAs want to improve services of BSNL through our
> service and that is my key point.Many of my friends reply me to stop SMSs
> like this and advised me to give the service first.Then I come to this
> conclusion.ok.
> You had given example of Hero Honda and bajaj.i
> think all people know that...but do you know these companies are also
> providing world class customer satisfaction services.And your SMSs fully
> sounds like "Emotionally Blackmail"...Now time gone to do the marketing like
> this..Now subscriber compares his profit/loss and then select the product.I
> still stuck with my point.I m ready further for your weak and down to earth
> clarification.
>
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/1/10, abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: abhijit darunkar <darunkar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL Forward this
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:25 AM
>
>
>
> My dear Jasvant Parmar,
> This message is just to create awareness in public.
> It is very true that no body will come to you until and unless you
> fulfill their requirements.Not even my brother will take our service
> until it is satisfying him. ok
> but this message is for those people who always keep saying,
> that you are a govt company so you have to do this n that,
> you give people this n that....
> Even private companies like bajaj and hero honda and many more
> makes the profit of people's affection towards our country !!!
> (buland bharat ki buland tasbir, desh ki dhadkan etc.)
> while they have nothing to do with the country by the profit they earned.
> but here we are 100 % govt company, each rupee of our profit(if any)
> is going towards betterment of our country.
> so people should at least know the fact, they buy our product or not
> is another thing !
> I think it is clear to you now.
> bye
> Abhijit Darunkar
> TTA outdoor
> Ahmednagar MH
> 9422727251
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jasvant Parmar <jasvantparmar@ymail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasvantparmar@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> My Dear,
> Abhijit Darunkar,
>
> I don't know for which purpose you put this mail,but if we seriously take
> this mail then the thought behind these type of SMSs/Mails reflects our
> negative image.
> A week ago,I also got this message in my
> cellphone.When we stop talking/thinking like this? As per my opinion,If you
> forward this sms to your friends then it will show your devaluation.Do you
> think that your friends will come back to your company which is not
> currently providing better services.So as per my thinking, if we have to go
> to top then we must concentrate on our services.No need to increase the
> "NUMBERS" , only to serve whatever we have the subscriber base.I m really
> sorry if my thoughts not matching with somebody my friends.
> * Jasvant Parmar*
> *TTA(Broadband)*
> *Palanpur-Gujarat*
> *9426655777*
> **
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/28/10, abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: abhijit <darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: TTABSNL Forward this
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 5:06 AM
>
>
>
> An IDEA user makes BIRLA rich...
>
> A DOCOMO user makes JAPAN prosperous...
>
> A VODAFONE user makes ENGLAND wealthy....
>
> An UNINOR makes NORWAY rich....
>
> A RELIANCE user makes AMBANI happy....
>
> A AIRTEL user makes MITTAL healthy....
>
> BUT........................... .
>
> ONLY A BSNL / MTNL user makes INDIA SAFE,RICH,HAPPY AND HEALTHY .....
>
> So contribute to our nation by subscribing BSNL/MTNL services....
>
> Forward this message to your friends who are using other operators.
>
> Regards,
> Abhijit Darunkar
> TTA outdoor,
> Ahmednagar,MH
> 9422727251
> darunkar@gmail.com<http://us.mc1110.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darunkar@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> REGARDS.....
> ABHIJIT DARUNKAR....
>
>
>

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Pay slips of TTA2JTO@Rs.21620 in Vijayawada(AP),Nalgonda(AP) and Mum
Posted by: "sateesh kumar" sateesh_bsnl@yahoo.co.in sateesh_bsnl
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:32 am ((PST))

Hi,
In Vijayawada(AP) ),Nalgonda(AP) and Mumbai, pay of TTA2JTO has been fixed at Rs.21620 as the basic for this month.
 
They are getting arrears for the JTO service only.
I have not their pay fixation memoes.
If I get, I will mail you.
In WTR, Bellari(KTK) and ITPC-Hyderabad also, they have been with Rs.21620
Fight for 21620 as our basic.
 
With regards,
Sateesh kumar K M
JTO-MSC Cellone,
Tirupati
+91 9440636998


3 of 3 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1337259430/item/list

AP_Vijayawda_Vishwaroopachary_salary
Mumbai_Mohanreddy_SalarySlip_Nov10.pdf
AP_Nalgonda_Narender pay slip_Nov10.doc

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
3. TRAI Announces New Regulation to Curb Unwanted Calls and SMSes
Posted by: "sonu gill" sonumehna@yahoo.co.in sonumehna
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:59 am ((PST))

Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) today announce a new mechanism to
effectively arrest pesky commercial calls and empowered consumers against
unwanted calls and SMSes.
In order to find a solution to this problem, a separate numbering series
70XXXXXXXX will be allocated for telemarketers, so that all telemarketing calls
can be easily identified.
Any call that comes from any number beginning with "70″ will be a commercial
call and the customer has the choice of receiving or not receiving the call.
Therefore, even a customer who chooses not to register at all, has a choice.
Likewise, a unique SMS header has been mandated for easy identification of
commercial SMSs.
The New Regulations will be will be effective from 1st January, 2011 and it also
mandate that no commercial communication, even for unregistered customers, shall
be sent between 9.00 PM to 9.00 AM, so as not to disturb the customers at night.
According to the new regulation by TRAI, the defaulting telemarketers will be
liable to pay heavy penalties. The telemarketers are required to enter into an
agreement with the service provider before they get telecom resources. As part
of the agreement, the telemarketers are required to commit that the following
amounts would be deducted from the security offered by them. First
offence Rs. 25,000; Second offence, 75,000; Third offence Rs. 80,000; Fourth
offence Rs.1,20,000; Fifth offence Rs. 1,50,000 and Sixth offence Rs. 2,50,000.
The Service Providers/Telecom operators are required to deduct these amounts and
deposit the same with TRAI. In addition to being liable for deduction
of security as indicated above, the telemarketer will be blacklisted on
commission of the sixth offence. The telecom resources of the blacklisted
telemarketer will be disconnected by all the service providers and will not be
restored for a period of two years.
 
$@wt@nt@r
tta  moga..........9417148575 

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
4. Lemon Mobiles Launches W100: Low-cost 3G Phone.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:02 am ((PST))

*Lemon Mobiles Launches W100: Low-cost 3G Phone*.

*Priced at just Rs. 3,500*, the Lemon W100 3G is a low-cost mobile phone
targeted at the mass market in India. This handset from Lemon Mobiles is
compatible with SIM cards from both, 2G (standard GSM) and *3G (WCDMA, not
HSPA)* mobile service providers. *Specifications *include a 2-inch screen,
dual-cameras (1.3 MP at rear), video call and email support, Bluetooth, Java
(has Opera Mini), 3.5 mm audio jack, 60 MB internal memory, and expandable
memory card slot up to *16GB*. The pre-loaded Lemon Live TV comes with a
free subscription for one month.

The music player on the Lemon W100 3G phone supports MP3, AAC, MIDI, and AMR
audio formats. With a 0.3 MP camera even at the front, there had to be a
video recorder and player application. Supported video file formats include
MP4, 3GP and 3G2. A voice recorder and FM radio functionality are also
present. This phone sells at mobile phone shops at Rs. 3,500 as mentioned
earlier, and is available in 2 colors - Vibrant Red and Stylish Blue.

While on the topic, note that although this phone is billed by some as an
entertainment package capable of accessing high speed internet, it depends
on what you'd accept as being "high speed". It can access GPRS over 2G
networks, not very different from most phones, but can only access WCDMA
over 3G networks. Consider that WCDMA can sometimes be just one-tenth the
speed of that which is accessible by the higher priced HSPA-compatible
phones. So this indeed is 3G for the masses, but perhaps severely crippled.
--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

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Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:03 am ((PST))

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Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:03 am ((PST))


Hi dear friends
Please update your details at the following link given.
In the search button, type your name or the ssa name and see your entry is available there or not�in case you not found your entry or the wrong entry, you can update it.
Here is the link.

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7. New Telecom minister Kapil Sibal has got cracking on reviving ailing
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:13 am ((PST))

*Sibal gets going on BSNL restructuring.*
NEW DELHI: *New telecom minister Kapil Sibal has got cracking on reviving
ailing BSNL, which recently announced a loss of Rs 1,823 crore for the year
to end-March, its first ever in its 10-year history as a corporate entity*.
Top officials from Mr Sibal's ministry will meet their counterparts from the
finance ministry, planning commission, IT, department of Industrial Policy &
Promotion amongst others on Tuesday on restructuring the PSU, executives
aware of the development told ET.

*BSNL, once a monopoly in domestic telephony, has been deteriorating in
financial performance over the years as it could not expand on time.* On the
agenda for Tuesday's meet is the implementation of the Pitroda committee
recommendations, which includes a 30% stake sale by listing BSNL and staff
cut by 100,000.

Last month, an internal panel of the telecoms ministry, under then minister
A Raja, after sitting on the Pitroda committee report for several months,
rejected most key proposals in it. In late 2009, Prime Minister Manmohan
Singh, worried about the steep decline in BSNL's profitability over the
years, called in Sam Pitroda along with banker Deepak Parekh to suggest
measures for revival.

*They in turn recommended a strategic 30% stake sale, staff cut by 100,000
and also raising funds from sale of its infrastructure , such as signal
towers and real estate, to revive the flagging fortunes of state-owned BSNL.
*

The state-owned telco's performance has been touching new lows every year
since 2007. ET had reported on Monday that BSNL's losses for the year-ended
march were as high as Rs 5,955 crore and that the company had managed to
show a lower figure due to its Rs 4,132 crore income from non-telecom
related activities. Off this, about close to Rs 2500 crore was from interest
from its cash reserves, which has dipped to from Rs 28,660 crore Rs 40,000
crore in 2008.

For the fiscal year to end-March 2009, BSNL showed a measly Rs 575 crore as
profit. Even this was possible only because interest income from its cash
reserves was about Rs 3,900 crore. In 2007-08, its net profit was Rs 3,009
crore on interest income of Rs 4,004 crore, proving that its profits in the
past three years has less to do with its telecom business.

*The DoT's internal panel that looked into Pitroda committee's
recommendations had said that BSNL's IPO must be 'deferred for two years to
allow the telco to improve its performance and get the right valuation'. It
had also rejected the Pitroda's committee's proposal to allow BSNL to bring
in top professionals, including a CEO from the private sector, and said that
'implementing such a move selectively for top-level positions, and also in
just one PSU would have wider repercussions'. *
<http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/telecom/Sibal-gets-going-on-BSNL-restructuring/articleshow/7016484.cms#ixzz16ruqL1Am>

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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8a. WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
Posted by: "pankaj kumar" kumar_pan2000@yahoo.co.in kumar_pan2000
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:20 am ((PST))

REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN STRIKE CHQ HAS GIVEN CONFUSED DECISION ON HIS WEBSITE. IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISION REGARDING PARTICIPATION, THERE IS NO NEED OF CHQ OR ASSOCIATION. IF THERE IS ANY CONFUSION OR CONTRADICTION AMONG CEC/ DEC MEMBERS . THE AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT BE SIGNED BY ANY SNNATTA MEMBER. IN THIS MANNER SNATTA GS AND OTHER KEY PLAYERS ARE FOCUSSING WRONG IMAGE OF SNATTA AS WELL AS DRTTA'S. THIS PATTERN SHOULD BE RECTIFIED AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED IN FUTURE, SO THAT  THE FAITH IN SNATTA MAY BE MAINTAINED
FROM
PANKAJ KUMAR
TTA
KURUKSHETRA, HARYANA

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8b. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:48 am ((PST))

dear pankaj,

i totally endorse your point of view in this regard.
i have personally sms them (CHQ) regarding this thing again n again. i hope
they will improve or say something abt this regard in detail here.

regards,
bandhan preet singh

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, pankaj kumar <kumar_pan2000@yahoo.co.in>wrote:

>
>
> REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN STRIKE CHQ HAS GIVEN CONFUSED DECISION ON HIS
> WEBSITE. IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISION REGARDING
> PARTICIPATION, THERE IS NO NEED OF CHQ OR ASSOCIATION. IF THERE IS ANY
> CONFUSION OR CONTRADICTION AMONG CEC/ DEC MEMBERS . THE AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT
> BE SIGNED BY ANY SNNATTA MEMBER. IN THIS MANNER SNATTA GS AND OTHER KEY
> PLAYERS ARE FOCUSSING WRONG IMAGE OF SNATTA AS WELL AS DRTTA'S. THIS PATTERN
> SHOULD BE RECTIFIED AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED IN FUTURE, SO THAT THE FAITH
> IN SNATTA MAY BE MAINTAINED
> FROM
> PANKAJ KUMAR
> TTA
> KURUKSHETRA, HARYANA
>
>
>

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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8c. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
Posted by: "Pardeep Mathur" pam9416233@yahoo.co.in pam9416233
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:44 pm ((PST))

I too agree with Mr. Pankaj, i also got personal msge from SNATTA Haryana in
the
morning stating that :

" As per views from our DECs & CEC members, we have decided to go as per JAC
prgme, without any binding on individual decision also" (what does it means??)

If every individual go against SNATTA decesion than what is the need of SNATTA?
I think this is very confusing sitution for all.
This type of messages are not good for the health of SNATTA.
CHQ plz try to be more sharp in future regarding decesion making.


Regards


Pardeep Mathur
TTA
Sonepat , Haryana
+919466681100
+911302102000


________________________________
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 1 December, 2010 8:04:46 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE


dear pankaj,

i totally endorse your point of view in this regard.
i have personally sms them (CHQ) regarding this thing again n again. i hope they
will improve or say something abt this regard in detail here.

regards,
bandhan preet singh


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, pankaj kumar <kumar_pan2000@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


>REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN STRIKE CHQ HAS GIVEN CONFUSED DECISION ON HIS
>WEBSITE. IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISION REGARDING
>PARTICIPATION, THERE IS NO NEED OF CHQ OR ASSOCIATION. IF THERE IS ANY CONFUSION
>OR CONTRADICTION AMONG CEC/ DEC MEMBERS . THE AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT BE SIGNED BY
>ANY SNNATTA MEMBER. IN THIS MANNER SNATTA GS AND OTHER KEY PLAYERS ARE FOCUSSING
>WRONG IMAGE OF SNATTA AS WELL AS DRTTA'S. THIS PATTERN SHOULD BE RECTIFIED AND
>SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED IN FUTURE, SO THAT THE FAITH IN SNATTA MAY BE MAINTAINED
>FROM
>PANKAJ KUMAR
>TTA
>KURUKSHETRA, HARYANA
>


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd, Punjab.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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8d. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
Posted by: "om prakash" op_cse@yahoo.com op_cse
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:46 pm ((PST))

Ya i am totally agree with Mr. Pankaj. Chq has been made for our unity ,not for a single person. Chq should ask view from members at the matter instead of leaving the decision on individul members. if chq confuse abt any decisiön in nxt time ,they should discuss to members

On Wed Dec 1st, 2010 8:04 PM IST Bandhan.P.Singh wrote:

>dear pankaj,
>
>i totally endorse your point of view in this regard.
>i have personally sms them (CHQ) regarding this thing again n again. i hope
>they will improve or say something abt this regard in detail here.
>
>regards,
>bandhan preet singh
>
>On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, pankaj kumar <kumar_pan2000@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN STRIKE CHQ HAS GIVEN CONFUSED DECISION ON HIS
>> WEBSITE. IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISION REGARDING
>> PARTICIPATION, THERE IS NO NEED OF CHQ OR ASSOCIATION. IF THERE IS ANY
>> CONFUSION OR CONTRADICTION AMONG CEC/ DEC MEMBERS . THE AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT
>> BE SIGNED BY ANY SNNATTA MEMBER. IN THIS MANNER SNATTA GS AND OTHER KEY
>> PLAYERS ARE FOCUSSING WRONG IMAGE OF SNATTA AS WELL AS DRTTA'S. THIS PATTERN
>> SHOULD BE RECTIFIED AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED IN FUTURE, SO THAT THE FAITH
>> IN SNATTA MAY BE MAINTAINED
>> FROM
>> PANKAJ KUMAR
>> TTA
>> KURUKSHETRA, HARYANA
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>regards,
>
>*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
>.
>
>*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
>
>"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"

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8e. Re: WHY CHQ GIVING CONFUSED DECISIONS ON WEBSITE
Posted by: "bally singh" ballypb@gmail.com ballypb
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 10:37 pm ((PST))

chq should clear what are the reason to take this type of stand this
is the second harmful decision taken by chq what chq aspect from our
members if they are not able to take any decision means you are are
attached with bsnleu for yuor personal benefit not for snatta where
our demands what we got being with bsnleu from last six year we salute
our GUJRAT circle members. in future you will see THIS TYPE of
decision in all india basis. even chq has not thought about support to
which union in future
BALKARAN SINGH
SHRI MUKTSAR SAHIB PUNJAB
9417345152

On 12/1/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear pankaj,
>
> i totally endorse your point of view in this regard.
> i have personally sms them (CHQ) regarding this thing again n again. i hope
> they will improve or say something abt this regard in detail here.
>
> regards,
> bandhan preet singh
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, pankaj kumar
> <kumar_pan2000@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN STRIKE CHQ HAS GIVEN CONFUSED DECISION ON HIS
>> WEBSITE. IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISION REGARDING
>> PARTICIPATION, THERE IS NO NEED OF CHQ OR ASSOCIATION. IF THERE IS ANY
>> CONFUSION OR CONTRADICTION AMONG CEC/ DEC MEMBERS . THE AGREEMENT SHOULD
>> NOT
>> BE SIGNED BY ANY SNNATTA MEMBER. IN THIS MANNER SNATTA GS AND OTHER KEY
>> PLAYERS ARE FOCUSSING WRONG IMAGE OF SNATTA AS WELL AS DRTTA'S. THIS
>> PATTERN
>> SHOULD BE RECTIFIED AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED IN FUTURE, SO THAT THE
>> FAITH
>> IN SNATTA MAY BE MAINTAINED
>> FROM
>> PANKAJ KUMAR
>> TTA
>> KURUKSHETRA, HARYANA
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> *Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd,
> Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
> .
>
> *Think Different...Think Good..!! *
>
> "*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
>

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9. End of STD Era..?? >>> BSNL offers inter-state calls at local rates.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:47 am ((PST))

*End of STD era? BSNL offers inter-state calls at local rates*
*BSNL will treat all long-distance calls from its fixed-line network to
landline numbers across the country as local calls as the erstwhile state
monopoly looks to breathe life into its non-mobile business, which continues
to be its largest revenue earner.
*
From Wednesday, all 27 million landline customers of the loss-making telecom
company can access this facility and not pay STD charges when calling any
landline in the country, *a move that is seen by many industry watchers as
the first step towards doing away with a separate slab for long distance
tariffs. *

*Telecom analysts say this is likely to trigger a price war in the landline
business and force similar responses from MTNL, Bharti Airtel, Reliance
Communications and Tata Teleservices, other players who currently offer
fixed line services. *

An MTNL executive said the company might follow suit, even as private
landline operators maintained they were studying BSNL offer.

BSNL has said that in addition to tariffs, the pulse rate will be that of a
local call. Put simply, a long distance call will carry a 180-second pulse,
unlike the earlier format when STD calls were billed on a per minute basis.

Currently, BSNL�s local calls cost between 80 paise and Rs 1.20 for three
minutes, based on the tariff plan the customer has chosen, and this same
pricing will be extended to all landline-to-landline calls, irrespective of
distances.

This also works out cheaper to long distance tariffs on mobiles, which
currently range from 60 paise to Rs 1.50/minute.

The telecom company has said the facility will be open to all existing
customers without having to activate the STD facility on their landlines.

In a bid to lure corporate India to use more of landline services, BSNL is
set to launch an ad blitz highlighting the pricing, better voice quality and
absence of call drops, executives with the company said.

�It will certainly appeal to the business communities and offices, who are
currently the largest users of fixed lines. This is a flexibility that only
fixed line operators can provide because they don�t use spectrum, and it
does not pinch the company, since the fixed line infrastructure is already
built,� said Mahesh Uppal, director at telecoms consulting firm, Com First.

* He added that in addition to expanding BSNL�s revenue base, this would
enable the company to use the excessive capacity on its fixed line network.
*

Ironically, the BSNL scheme kicks off on the day its employees begin a
three-day strike, disrupting services, to protest against the telecom
company�s failure to procure mobile networks in time. BSNL employee unions
are also demanding that the Centre meet its commitments and reimburse the
licence fee and also compensate the PSU for its social commitments.

As of August, India had 36 million landlines, a figure that has been
dropping every month, for the last three years. BSNL has a 74% market share,
followed by MTNL, which provides services in Mumbai and Delhi, which
commands 10%, Bharti Airtel with 9% and Reliance Communications and Tata
Teleservices with 3.4% share each. The country has over 700 m mobile
connections.

BSNL executives admit that the plan was aimed at improving its sliding
revenues. The company, once a monopoly in domestic telephony, has been
deteriorating in financial performance over the years, as it could not
expand on time. It could not compete with the nimble-footed private mobile
phone firms, such as Bharti Airtel, which were taking decisions quickly.

BSNL saw its overall revenue fall from Rs 32,842.30 crore in 2007-08 to Rs
30,169.42 crore in 2008-09 and further to Rs 27,913.44 crore in 2009-10 and
has reported revenues of Rs 13,823.96 crore for the first half of the
current financial year (2010-11 ).

BSNL�s fall from grace is best explained from the fact that its annual
revenues were over the Rs 40,000-crore mark for the year-ended March �06.
�The decline in revenue has been due mainly to a churn of fixed line
subscribers and fall in average revenue per user (for mobile), minister of
state for communications and information technology Sachin Pilot informed
the Lok Sabha in a written reply on Tuesday.

ET had reported on Monday that BSNL, which suffered from rampant political
interference and neglect under former telecoms minister A Raja, had recently
announced a loss of Rs 1,823 crore for the year to end-March, a first ever
in the company�s history since it was set up, while also adding that the
actual losses are as high as Rs 5,955 crore during this period.

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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10. 2G probe on track, CBI claims has proof.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:48 am ((PST))

*2G probe on track, CBI claims has proof

*
*The 2G spectrum scam probe appears to be getting closer to former telecom
minister A Raja. *

The CBI on Monday filed a status report before the Supreme Court detailing
seizure of certain key documents from Department of Telecom (DoT), just days
after Raja's resignation from the Cabinet, relating to national and
international dimensions of the scam. Sources said the status report, likely
to be studied on Tuesday by a Bench comprising Justices G S Singhvi and A K
Ganguly, narrated the nature of these documents running into 116 pages
seized from DoT on November 18 and 20, less than a week after Raja's
resignation on November 14.

This assumes significance as there was a lull in CBI raids on DoT after its
search of Sanchar Bhawan on October 22, 2009 and February 3, 2010, when it
had seized 11 documents running into 7,000-odd pages. On November 18, CBI
seized a document running into 41 pages. Two days later, it got hold of
another document of 75 pages. Interestingly, the hearing on Tuesday comes
exactly a month after the Bench on October 29 had sealed Raja's fate by
asking: *"You (the government) have done nothing on the complaint. The
nature of complaint is serious, but same minister continues till today. Is
that the way the government must function?" *

*The investigating officer gave a blow-by-blow account of the progress in
the probe and listed seizure of 480 pages of documents in New Delhi relating
to the scam on November 15, just a day after Raja's resignation. *

The status report, filed in sealed cover, will also give the Bench an
insight into crucial interrogation details of 43 witnesses questioned so far
by CBI and also suspected involvement of officials of telecom firms
including Unitech Wireless, Shyam Telelinks and Swan Telecom Pvt Ltd, now
Etisalat DB Telecom Pvt Ltd.

Petitioner NGO Centre for Public Interest Litigation had alleged that in
January 2008, DoT had awarded 122 Universal Access Service licences with
spectrum on first-come first-served basis at the rate of Rs 1,658.57 crore
at a price discovered in the auction of spectrum in 2001. *It said the CAG
had pegged the loss due to this at Rs 1,76,000 crore. *

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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11. Some news from NFTE website.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:57 am ((PST))

*TO SAVE THE SKIN ? (taken from http://www.nftechq.co.in)
*

Former Communication Minister A. Raja was fully supported by BSNLEU for the
last 4 years while Com. C.K.Mathivanan Dy General Secretary NFTE BSNL was
relent lessly exposing the minister�s corruption in 2G Spectrum allocation
Com. V.A.N Namboodri gave a clean chit to the minister and appreciated the
minister only to seek some favor for their union & alliance. They surrender
to the minister on several occasions. As long as he was our minister they
appreciated him. But now the same people conducting demonstrations in
November to protest against the corruption in 2G Spectrum allotment. It is
needless to point out the change heart only to save their skin and wash
their sins.


--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

*Think Different...Think Good..!! *

"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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12. Fw: TTABSNL BSNL network can collapse at anytime
Posted by: "arun kumar" la_arun_kumar@yahoo.com la_arun_kumar
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 10:37 pm ((PST))

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: Bandhan Preet Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 26 October, 2010 11:55:13 PM
Subject: TTABSNL BSNL network can collapse at anytime


BSNL network can collapse at anytime

Overloaded MPLS network, on which, data traffic of many mission-critical
applications of the country runs, can collapse at anytime. This collapse of
network will hit badly the broadband services of BSNL, mobile broadband being
delivered through 3G network of BSNL and MPLS-VPN network or leased circuit
line.


This breakdown of BSNL Network will put off various government services and
major part of defense communication network. There are more than 20,000
enterprise customers that rely on MPLS-VPN service offered by BSNL to run their
mission-critical applications. This includes mostly banking and financial
institutions and organization such as top nationalized banks, oil and gas
companies as also companies of other sectors.


As a result, banking operations such as transactions through ATM and core
banking processes, transactions on petrol pumps and many other services crucial
for day-to-day life of people and businesses across the country can come to a
halt.


CIOL has learnt from some reliable sources that BSNL's MPLS network has noticed
traffic load of up to 80 per cent on the network in its peak hour on its core
network whereas IP technology does not permit such high overload, due to IP
packet collisions at such higher loading. Typical loading should not exceed
more than 50 per cent of its rated capacity.

"Data travels on IP network in form packets. In layman terms, the situation of
core network is like over-load traffic on road. If there is heavy traffic, the
speed of vehicles slows down. In case there are accidents in this traffic, all
the vehicles stop. Similarly, there are too many data packet collisions in
BSNL's core MPLS network at such higher loading. Therefore data speed on BSNL
network on many occasions becomes very slow adversely affecting broadband
Internet," said a BSNL official who did not want to be named.

The BSNL's rated network capacity to handle traffic load of more than 300
Gigabit is very much underutilized due to wrong planning and inconsistent
procurement policies, claimed the official. BSNL's MPLS core network has about
200 node equipment throughout the country, which comprises core, edge and
access networks connecting users in various telecom circles and associated
district head quarters of the country.

These 200 MPLS node equipment, using about 400 long distance media links, are
getting connected to each other. With this arrangement of what is called as
mesh connection, technology should provide transfer of traffic load from one to
other incessant flow of data packets.

But, with such high overloading of BSNL's MPLS network on some paths, coupled
with frequent breakdowns due to OFC cut and failure of some node equipment in
its long distance network, the situation is becoming worse.

"We have high capacity optical fibre cables everywhere, but we don't have the
capacity in node equipment to connect efficiently with each other because of
irregular procurement process of critical MPLS equipment," said the official.


The links that are frequently getting overloaded and at high risk are
Indore-Mumbai, Ahmedabad-Mumbai, Lucknow-Indore-Mumbai, Lucknow-Nagpur-Mumbai,
New Delhi-Mumbai, Jaipur-Mumbai, New Delhi-Bangalore, New Delhi-Chennai and
Jalandhar National Internet backbone.


The expansion plan of this MPLS core network was seriously upset by the
internal differences between very senior officials in BSNL Head Quarters,
claimed the official.


According to some BSNL officials, the nodes in core MPLS network are connected
with each other through mostly Cisco equipment. These equipment are currently
underutilized to the extent of one tenth of their rated capacity and an easy
upgrade can be done by adding interface cards on these equipment. However, as
per officials information, with the interoperability issues with these
equipment, only Cisco can provide such additional interface cards required for
upgradation of this network.

The BSNL official further alleged that taking benefit of monopoly due to
interoperability issues, Cisco vendors are quoting high prices for such
interface cards comparable to the equipment itself.

CIOL made attempt to reach Cisco on this non-interoperability issue but no
comments or clarification was received by the time this report went online.

"There is pressure on senior officials in southern telecom project to finalize
this tender in favour of a particular vendor," further alleged the official.

Contrary to this claim, another senior official of southern telecom, BSNL who
is closely involved with the tender, denied such allegations.


"The tender was canceled because the shortlisted vendors could not meet some
eligibility and technical criteria. Cisco is original equipment manufacturer
for only one of six vendors that were shortlisted. We have no issues relating
to financial bids and there are no external pressures for favoring any
particular vendor," further said the official.


This official also mentioned that the tender will be re-floated within a week
and with some relaxation in eligibility and technical criteria.


"We urgently need to expand our IP MPLS network. We are going to float this
tender within this week with some relaxation in the tender norms," said the STP
official.

When contacted by CIOL for a clarification pertaining to this issue, BSNL CMD
Gopal Das said he did not feel that the BSNL network is overloaded. He also
added that at the moment he is not aware of the tender floated by the
department for the procurement of equipment to expand the network.

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

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13. Why was TRAI silent for two years: Apex court on 2G
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Dec 2, 2010 2:37 am ((PST))

*Why was TRAI silent for two years: Apex court on 2G**The Supreme Court
Wednesday asked why the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) was
silent for two years on 85 ineligible firms bagging 2G spectrum and the
remaining companies that got the airwaves failing to rollout services in
varying degrees. *

"Apart from the issues being investigated by the Central Bureau of
Investigation (CBI) why was regulator (TRAI) silent for two years," asked
the apex court bench of Justice G.S. Singhvi and Justice Ashok Kumar
Ganguly.

The court's observations came in the wake of submission by Solicitor General
Gopal Subramanium that it needed to be looked into if the failure to
discharge rollout obligations by the telecom operators holding 2G spectrum
was on account of genuine or logistic difficulties.

The Solicitor General said the extent of the compliance of the rollout
obligations by telecom operators needed to be looked into for proceeding
against them.

The Solicitor General said this in the course of the hearing of a petition
by the Centre for Public Interest Litigation (CPIL) seeking apex court
monitoring of the CBI investigations into 2G spectrum scam.

* The court also noted that spectrum was in scarcity was known even on
September 24, 2007, then why was the date extended to October 1, 2007. The
court further queried "Even the regulator knew about the physical limitation
of spectrum, yet it recommended no cap policy". *

The court observed that the knowledge that the availability of spectrum was
limited yet DoT went for unlimited application was irreconcilable.

At another point the court asked the Solicitor General Subramanium "*would
you not call it arbitrary action on the part of the government giving 45
minutes time to collect the letter of intent (LoI) and comply with its
conditionalities?" *

The court further asked "*Do you consider this a responsible functioning of
the government or government department?"* The court said that it would lead
to a chaos in the bar if courts start delivering verdicts on 45 minutes
notice.

At this the Solicitor General said that procedure for giving letters of
intent and completing its formalities could have been more transparent.

The Solicitor General Subramanium reiterated the federal government's stated
position that individual failings in the 2G spectrum scam could not be
excluded. The hearing would continue on Thursday.

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

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"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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14. Government orders probe into Radia tape leaks.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Dec 2, 2010 2:38 am ((PST))

*Government orders probe into Radia tape leaks*

New Delhi, Nov 29 (IANS) The government Monday ordered a probe into the
leaks of conversations between corporate lobbyist Niira Radia and leading
businessmen, politicians and journalists.

*The order on the probe came on a day when Tata group chairman Ratan Tata
moved the Supreme Court seeking judicial restraint on the publication of
transcripts of phone intercepts of Radia on grounds of right to privacy.*

Home ministry sources said the probe would be conducted by the Intelligence
Bureau and the Central Board for Direct Taxes (CBDT) and will focus on
finding out who leaked the conversations and how.

They said CBDT had conducted the phone tappings over a period of time for
which the sanction was given by the home ministry.

The tapes had come into limelight after two weekly magazines published
excerpts from transcripts of the conversations.

The petition moved by Tata Monday was similar to what had been filed by
Radia herself in the Delhi High Court that, in May, had declined to restrain
the telecast of a similar set of wiretaps by a TV channel on the ground that
the people of the country had a right to know the truth.

*Tata's petition contended that the publication of intercepts violated his
right to privacy. The reference was to the transcript of 5,851 purported
conversations Radia had with different people during the period of the
wiretap.*

Tatas's petition made the director of the Central Bureau of Investigation
(CBI), the director general of Income Tax and Union of India respondents.

*At the same time, the government's right to intercept telephone calls was
not being questioned, he said. Radia was questioned last week by the
Enforcement Directorate.*

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.

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"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"


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