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1a. urgent attention plz
From: Razz Dcool
2a. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
From: jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in
3a. Do strugle against management & union
From: Mahesh chand Meena
3b. Re: Do strugle against management & union [1 Attachment]
From: rahul kaushik
4. wireless security alert in modem
From: Mahesh chand Meena
5a. hello
From: naincee geda
6. Congratulation Mr. Deepak
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1a. urgent attention plz
Posted by: "Razz Dcool" razzdcool@yahoo.com razzdcool
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:12 am ((PST))
Dear all,
What i feel after talking to other new recruited TTA's that they have lost faith in the leaders of SNATTA, but it is not their fault. What they are being told by the other union leaders even by the BSNLEU is that, it is the their senior TTA which don't took interest to raise the the wage of new recruited TTA only because they jelous of them.SNATTA leaders can represent the new recruited TTA's side very effectively but they don't want to do so because they need some post in BSNLEU.Now in agression the new recruited TTA's of batch 08 & 09 are planning to make a separate association. We should not allow this to happen, it will divide our strength.I think to divide TTA's strenght is management's & other union's planning. We should do our best to solve the issue of wage of new recruited TTA's. It is the only way which can keep us united & will keep the faith of new recruited TTA's in SNATTA.
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2a. Re: Letter to VAN Nambodri
Posted by: "jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in" jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in jaiprakashsinghtta
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:19 am ((PST))
Dear Friend
It was expected by persons like me. I had always apprehension of the efforts of CHQ. It always appeared by reading between line of any answer by office bearer that they had always created doubt whether while drawing pay scale BP+DA+30% fitment is to be considered . I remember Mr.Abhilash in April or May, he replied a query of a TTA . Half his answer was in explaining him that new TTA is not authorized for fitment. In latter half of his answer he appreciated CHQ action that it is fighting hard for scale as per 6 CPC. I talked on phone with lots of person they exhausted more their energy in explaining me that NEW TTA are not due for fitment than on telling that CHQ is fighting hard. Actually CHQ was fighting the lost battle in pressure from SO CALLED NEW TTA.
Mr. Abhilash complains that new TTA are not active. I would like to remind him mostly all TTAs are active. I think active means he compare to himself. All TTAs cannot and should not behave like circle co-coordinator or like circle secretory or like president . If it happens like that then it will create chaos and anarchy in any organization. He says in his circle NEW TTAs are not active . Long back in April/May I had inquired about him in KERALA circle . People complained of his high handedness like attitude.
WHAT WENT WRONG--
(a) Wage Revision Committee rejected the pay scale proposed by management Rs 17775 for TTA at 6th stage which works at 1 st stage any where between 15500 to 15800
(b) We fought for 6 th CPC not for fitment formula. Anyway 6th CPC recommendation was not going to be accepted by Management because they will NOT place TTA,JTO,SDE at one pay scale or near by that, in BSNL.
(c) Confusion for BP+DA+30% fitment in pay scale among TTA
(d) Less in number, total TTAs in pressure game of BSNLEU.
( e) Provisional/probation of new TTA of 2007/08/09
(f ) Last but not the least, We fought the lost battle.
It is not good or not possible that each and every TTA should write to Dist sec/circle sec/GS/CMD it will again create chaos and confusion.
Now the Wage Revision Committee is going unabated to finish its WORK.
We are going to conduct very shortly a circle level conference in Punjab to decide next course of action. And I presume in all circle it is going happen very soon.
Thanking you all yours
Jai Prakash Singh
TTA Mansa
9463312774
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From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 20 December, 2009 7:45:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri
Dear All
After going through a number of mails circulated through our group for over eight months, especially on wage revision, I come to the following conclusion:
Newly recruited TTAs of post 2007 are also active along with other TTAs (if not all, some energetic and enthusiastic like of senior batch too) and normally they watch the latest developments on wage negotiations through either our or bsnleu websites. Also, most of the apprehensions of newly recruited TTAs whenever cropped up, were immediately answered by persons having good knowledge of current situation on the topic and especially by Mr Abhilash, the CC of Kerala without much delay.
In most of the replies, the newly recruited TTAs of post 2007 are given rest assured that the CHQ is doing its best to cover the aspirations of junior TTAs too. .
The following clippings of email will highlight this better.
In Apr 2009, some new TTAs have raised reservations against bsnleu's demand of getting Interim Relief. The reply given was: "we examined all the practical aspects. Remember we have only short term goals, so we are going in the most suitable ways with related to our demands"
On 16/4/2009, the reply given was:"we are trying to get pre-revised scale of Rs 9200 for TTAs which is a new pay scale at N-12"
On 23/4/2009, Mr. Sham Chadda questioned about wage revision to newly recruited TTAs, the reply given on 26/4/2009 was, " There will never be any loss of fitment to newly recruited TTAs, In JTO case, it is only a temporary adjustment and it is going to be revised to Rs. 18850/- and hence, newly recruited TTAs also will be benefited accordingly"
So, keeping in view of pulses of CHQ, the newly recruited TTAs are in the opinion that their interest will be looked after by the recognised union. Atleast two of our SNATTA members are enjoying the office bearer post at District level in BSNLEU. So do u expect that the newly recruited TTAs will be able to turn the table around, the things which could not be done by the entire SNATTA CHQ and the selected reps in BSNLEU? Also, one of our main demands in supporting bsnleu before verification was to get us the highest NE pay scale, and it is shocking that despite our representative in wage committee, presenting a good posture of our legitimate demand for higher pay scale, this was never taken up by the recognised union in any meeting with BSNL Mgt.
We were silent spectators to their sidelining of our demands. So it is needless to blame the junior TTAs for their apathy. Instead, it is cynical to watch that some unions are demanding better pay scale for Sr.TOA, quoting that Degree is a pre-requisite qualification for this cadre, which is superior to Diploma qualification ( It is a mockery that those who are in a degree cadre, are to pass through the pre-screening test, and at times fail to clear screening test, for appearing in departmental TTA Prom exam)
I appreciate that atleast our CHQ has taken up TTAs case now with more vigour, which could have been a bit earlier. Right now we don't have any other option until or unless some miracle happens with new ideas.. Atleast guidance in right direction will be a solace to them in their time of obscurity.
Let us hope for the best.
SN Ameen, Riyadh, KSA
00966555802143
--- On Sat, 19/12/09, abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 4:50 PM
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>Dear Balwant,
>Very nice to see your efforts. But I afraid that it will not bring much results. I hope you remember that I had written such letters to Numboodiri and to some Circle leaders regarding the same subject. The danger that hides in the multiplication factor and the heart break of the new TTAs were already brought to their notice. I made
> many phone calls too. But what happened? The reason of their attitude is bitter to swallow - the BSNLEU leaders felt that there was no complaint from the new comers. Because they didn't hear the new comers voice just because of the fact that most of us kept silence through out in those days. The EU leaders didn't bother about the SNATTA leaders pressure just because they didn't get any pressure or feed back from their local leaders. Many times I asked the new comers to raise their voice in EU's local bodies. But it didn't happen and our friends were interested only in the yahoo group activities. In Kerala, I urged all the new comers to attend EU's district conferences and explain our issues during the discussion time. But very few friends heard my call(that too only in 4 SSAs). And what happened in other Circles?..
>Anyway, forget the past. Even though it seems to be too late, please ask all the new comers to give the letters to the
> EU's district & branch secretary. Yesterday, our vibrant CHQ leaders went to meet Namboodiri. After the hot discussion Namboodiri agreed to present the matter to the wage committee and as per Hakkam Singhji, Namboodiri raised the pay up gradation issue in the wage committee. But the management rejected the demand. Only the pay loss(if it happens in some case) will be compensated by personal pay. So please draft another letter to management and let all the new TTAs to forward it through the proper channel and send one advanced copy directly.
>Abhilash
>CC,Kerala.
>
>--- On Wed, 16/12/09, balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
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>>From: balwant singh dhindsa <bsladewalia@ yahoo.co. in>
>>Subject: [TTABSNL] Letter to VAN Nambodri [1 Attachment]
>>To: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, "jpshiomuni _"
>> <jpshiomuni@gmail. com>, ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com
>>Cc: inder1986.ias23@ gmail.com, bsladewalia@ yahoo.co.. uk
>>Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 3:48 PM
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>>Regards
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>>BALWANT SINGH
>>9463271261
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3a. Do strugle against management & union
Posted by: "Mahesh chand Meena" maheshchand.meena@yahoo.com maheshchand.meena
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:39 am ((PST))
Dear
All sr. TTA ,
kindly u should do advise to us about new pay scale ,tell us what should we do ? For get good pay scale & pay revise .
i wanna tell to all new recruit TTA that we should do strugle against it .
we should tell to BSNL EU for complete his past promise with us/SNATTA.
Ur Frnd
Er. Mahesh Meena
TTA (Broadband)
9413782004
Churu,Raj.
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3b. Re: Do strugle against management & union [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "rahul kaushik" rahul_kaushik_mail@yahoo.com rahul_kaushik_mail
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:51 am ((PST))
Dear
All sr. TTA ,
i dont know y bsnleu not taking new recruited tta's seriously and for what we are waiting this is the time to show them our strength we need to show them the way to leed the era
--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Mahesh chand Meena <maheshchand.meena@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Mahesh chand Meena <maheshchand.meena@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Do strugle against management & union [1 Attachment]
To: "MAHESH MEENA" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 1:11 PM
[Attachment(s) from Mahesh chand Meena included below]
Dear
All sr. TTA ,
kindly u should do advise to us about new pay scale ,tell us what should we do ? For get good pay scale & pay revise .
i wanna tell to all new recruit TTA that we should do strugle against it .
we should tell to BSNL EU for complete his past promise with us/SNATTA.
Ur Frnd
Er. Mahesh Meena
TTA (Broadband)
9413782004
Churu,Raj.
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4. wireless security alert in modem
Posted by: "Mahesh chand Meena" maheshchand.meena@yahoo.com maheshchand.meena
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:41 am ((PST))
Dera all TTA,
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pls tell me as soon as on which one do u like
my mail id m_iuc@rediffmail.com
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5a. hello
Posted by: "naincee geda" geda_naincee@yahoo.co.in geda_naincee
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:42 am ((PST))
hi friends,
iam working as TTA in Ranchi(jharkhand),i want to be transfered to MP circle. if any body interested to get mutual transfer. pls mail me.
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6. Congratulation Mr. Deepak
Posted by: "s h" shah_pat_nib@yahoo.co.in shah_pat_nib
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:44 am ((PST))
Dear All
Our active member Sri Deepak Kumar of Katihar district elected as Asst Circle Secretary BSNLEU ,Bihar. This is a major achievement for SNATTA Bihar Circle. I congratulate him on behalf of all the TTAs in the cirlce for his grand achievement. I hope this will certainly encourage our other friends also.
The detailed news of the conference will be available soon. Have a nice day.
Shahnawaz Akhtar
Circle Secretary
SNATTA
Bihar
9431094583
Email:- shah.nib@gmail.com
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