Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: loan for salary
From: surinder mittal
2.1. mutual transfer
From: Kamal
3a. Re: our future: please read
From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY
3b. An initiative I took few months ago
From: Majunath Prasad
4a. Re: Loan for salary
From: abhilash v
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1a. Re: loan for salary
Posted by: "surinder mittal" mittals3_surinder@yahoo.com mittals3_surinder
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:58 am ((PST))
again friends afraiding... But afraiding for reumors spread by group B and above.
The process of DR always initiated after the prior approval of Finance Ministry.
DRs not hav to worry at all. The loaning is a usual practise which is done by organisations frequently. The state govt take many time such loans to payoff their employees, it doesnt mean that they are inproductive. Furthermore DRs pay is always protected as we are BSNL's self recrutd and trained manforce. Wht a corporation may do is that it can declare certain cadre as dying cadre. What BSNL will do is first it will decrease the number of old employes thru VRS and aftr that it will get a parliamentary amendment to get the dying cadre approval thru parliament and make the old workforce to bare minimum.
DRs Need not to worry atall.
Surinder Mittal @ 09417583939
TTA ABOHAR
PUNJAB TC
On Sat Nov 20th, 2010 7:02 PM PST J-Saravanan wrote:
>Dear friends,
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> If the "loan for salary" information is true.. We
>should protest this to the maximum extent..
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>These oldies will sell-off the BSNL or we will be in a position to repay the
>loan what they have taken.
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>All leaders please ensure the authenticity of the information.
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>Regards,
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>J.Saravanan
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>+91 9443212708
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>BSNL-Sulur-Coimbatore-TN
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2.1. mutual transfer
Posted by: "Kamal" shail_kamal@yahoo.com shail_kamal
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:43 pm ((PST))
any body interested in mutual transfer from hissar haryana to ghaizabad,muzafarnagar,meeerut,kanpur or lucknow.
plz conttact at
Er. Shailendra Kamal
T.T.A.(Groups)
mob-9467028111,7876833900
ph-01696-217002,01696-224400
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3a. Re: our future: please read
Posted by: "RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" ttamktgmtr@gmail.com raj.ku73
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:15 pm ((PST))
Hi Manjunath!
I am glad to see old youngesters in action. Once again you are with arms in
your hand. I think our valuable advices will help in achieving the
objecyive.
RK UPADHYAY
TTA (MKTG)
MATHURA
9457885177
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Majunath Prasad <kgm.prasad@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> An emotional release of reality. Yes. I must call it that way.
> Introduction of VRS is the need of the hour. We could do away with most
> unemployed employees. There is just no reason why shouldn't it happen.
>
> Though we are just in our miniscule form today, tomorrow is certainly
> ours. The strength of TTAs will gradually go up as this is the only cadre
> that is being put forward to recruitment and none else. Hence, once the
> strength has come to some decent proportion, all these so called dubious
> unions will do anything to attract our attention. But then, it is a story
> of tomorrow. Today is important, because, it forms a formidable foundation
> for tomorrow.
>
> I am pretty sure, more than a big lot of the young TTAs would welcome stake
> sale and privatisation. As rightly pointed out in the header mail
> communication, the oldies have nothing more to loose and probably are
> carrying out their last ritual of milking the cow to her death. The young
> ones have their future locked to the health of the organisation. And it
> is the young ones who are the saviours of this mighty organisation. Not
> an iota of doubt would therefore should exist in anyone's mind about this.
> There is nothing wrong to voice our opinions, if the situation demands and
> if majority of us feel some thing is right for the future of the
> organisation.
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> It is therefore very important at this crucial juncture, to all of us, to
> emerge as a strong association (union) with its own functional ideology and
> abide by it to the possible logical conclusion.
>
> As on date, we all have been struggling to settle our long pending issues
> and I see that there is a lot of progress made in establishing ourselves as
> an important part of the organisation. I heart fully appreciate the young
> TTAs for their perennial struggle against the ill intentions of the oldies
> to subside us. (LOL.. I am an ex-serviceman and ofcourse 48 years old young)
> Also, all out efforts were made by the leading team in fighting various
> issues and I once again heart fully appreciate their struggle for their
> (our) existence.
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> Like pointed out in the header mail, it is the hour of the need to
> re-think, introspect and inch to lead for a better tomorrow.
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> I love you all, the young ones.
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> Best wishes
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> KGM Prasad
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> TTA@broadband helpdesk, Charminar
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> 9440603060
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> Ooops, did I make any sense in my mail… I only hope so..
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> --- On *Fri, 11/19/10, RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>* wrote:
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> From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY <ttamktgmtr@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL our future: please read
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 4:50 AM
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> Let this sprk take the form of huge fire to ruin/burn the group of
> selfish leaders. It needs the willpower which we can't get any where but
> within ourselves.
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> RK UPADHYAY
> TTA (MKTG)
> MATHURA, UP (W)
> 9457885177
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> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:37 PM, vineeth adolph <vineethadolph@gmail.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vineethadolph@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> Dear friends
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> Whether anybody know what's our future is??? does anybody
> cares???
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> Some days back there was being a protest march organised by
> Joint action council.
> in which employees of various unions took part. What were their need. Stop
> the move to
> introduce VRS and increase facilities for Pensioners!!!!! . What was heart
> breaking to see that one
> of our TTA took part in it and after that we had a small chat, during that
> he said that he also want VRS
> to be introduced. Then why the hell he took part in that protest for. Is he
> afraid of someone or something or
> he want to get some benefits from these "UNIONS".What the problem with the
> Direct BSNL recruited employees??
> They are not knowing that, they are loosing the sand under their feet. They
> are remaining silent and waiting for some one else do something .
>
> These so called union members and leaders have nothing to loose. They
> have obtained maximum from this organisation and now
> trying to takeaway what else remains here before they go!!!. How many of
> these BSNL employees are sending their children to this organisation???
> They all have send their children to "better jobs" with the help of this
> organisation and now they are wasting ours .Why we are
> allowing this???? Have we all gone waste, useless, voiceles??????
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> We must have a action plan against these union gundas . We must make
> plans how to defeat them. At these times are
> a union of Direct recruited employees is very needed ."I" think SNATTA have
> the potential to do something.
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> Friends please , please, please be united in these times. Find the
> treachers among us.Don't participate in any protest against VRS and all good
> things...
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> We have no more time to waste . Do something or else we will loose
> forever!!!!!!
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> --
> Vineeth Adolph
> Telecom Technical Assistant
> (WiMax/WLL,Alleppey)
> Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
> (A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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3b. An initiative I took few months ago
Posted by: "Majunath Prasad" kgm.prasad@yahoo.com kgm.prasad
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:15 am ((PST))
Please find a draft I made and put it across through our DE who happened to be circle secretary of some union that I do not know. Can we (through our SNATTA) take up such issues directly that requesting someone to do the same? Ofcourse some combo plans were issued after pushing up this draft. I am not sure whether this has made the impact or someone took initiative at some management position. Can we take up some such things through our association? If so, I welcome the young ones to throw some ideas so that we can draft them and push it through the headquarters. I will be very happy to be a part of such struggle. The idea to reproduce the old draft that I put up is just to see whether we can do a bit of thinking on such lines and push things through our association. Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks in advance
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It is needless to reiterate that copper pair has regained its credit after the ADSL signal has been injected into it. Also, it may not be out of point to mention that the prominence of landline, in the present scenario wherein the mobile communication has gained popularity due to many reasons, has become questionable and the same is being treated as the inferior technology with limited scope for value added services when compared to the mobile segment.
Also, the rate of increment of broadband connections has been under pressure due to various other options available in the market though the ADSL on landline is still a leader. However, it is very important to accelerate the rate of increment in broadband connections and help the landline segment to withstand the pressure by the peers. The following are few suggestions to help accelerate growth in broadband connections:-
(i) No of plans existing may be reduced so that the customer finds it convenient to select a plan. A simple study in the number of connections in each plan can help arrive at a figure.
(ii) In the recent combo plans issued, the night unlimited option i.e. 0200 hrs to 0800 hrs has been eliminated which makes the new plans unpopular. The same may be re-introduced.
(iii) In case of limited plans, there should not be any speed restriction. The speed restriction may be made applicable to only unlimited plans.
(iv) Recent business combo plans are really welcome. Due to Business Plan 2799 Combo, older 8 Mbps plans and few business plans do not hold any purpose and hence may be cancelled.
(v) Introduction of a dynamic plan will be a very good idea. The moment customer crosses the limit of one plan, he/she should be placed in the next higher plan dynamically so that the customer will be encouraged to use the service once the limit is reached. Present pattern forces the customer to stay well within the limit and discourage further usage due to higher per MB cost.
(vi) A better idea will be to popularise combo plans and discard other plans as giving free calls to the customers may motivate the customers to initiate calls from the landline. Presently, the customers of broadband connections with SULABH landline scheme, do not initiate calls. The calls initiated from the landlines are slowly decreasing and such a measure will motivate the customers to use the landline line to initiate calls. As the broadband is a value added service to the landline, growth in landline connections and broadband connections go hand in hand. Any step to improve any of these two services will result in growth of other service automatically.
A report of the popularity of each existing plan may be worked out prior to introduction of any new plan. Else, increase in the number of plans may not make much difference to the growth in this sector.
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Regards
KGM Prasad
tta@broadband helpdesk, Charminar
9440603060
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4a. Re: Loan for salary
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:16 am ((PST))
Dear friends,
Financial constraints are there. After December we may face some restriction. Allowances such as canteen allowance, personal up gradation allowance,medical allowance,over time etc may be blocked. In a worse situation there may be only basic pay for some months.But take it in a positive manner. We are not the first loss making PSU in India. MTNL, ITI etc. are already in loss. The loss making companies give salary to employees by taking grand from Government. BSNL management may approach the Government for the same(already approached). But the Government would give grand on certain conditions. They are VRS, public issue of certain percentage of shares etc. Presently unions are opposing it. But the employees, who are getting only basic pay for some months, would pressurise unions for agreeing the conditions. Old employees would be praying for a VRS at the earliest. NOFA(National optical fibre agency) is now not in the plans and BSNL is getting that
project of interconnecting all the villages through OF. Streams will be given to other operators on a rental basis so that we can survive in the future.
On the basis of assets and infrastructure BSNL is a giant. So no need to worry for the young and qualified employees. Be prepared to face some tight situation for a short period.
yours
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Sat, 20/11/10, arvind kumar <arvind_tta_hsr@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: arvind kumar <arvind_tta_hsr@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL Loan for salary
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 20 November, 2010, 8:21 PM
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Sir i have also heard about loan taken by bsnl for salary . it is also learnt that bsnl have only salary for the m/o dec-10 only. if anybody have related news then please share with the group.
regard
Arvind TTA NTR
Mandi(H.P)
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