Friday, October 22, 2010

TTABSNL Digest Number 1931[2 Attachments]

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. service mobile connection in bihar circle
From: Deepak Kumar

2. Clarification regarding BSNL learning scheme
From: shashi bhushan

3a. Username for CDR
From: rupesh
3b. Re: Username for CDR
From: Jugal Kishor Nagar
3c. Re: Username for CDR
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4. Clarification on special mobile "Home Unlimited Plan"
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

5a. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: Deepak Kumar
5b. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: lalit singh
5c. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: Deepak Kumar

6. 10 Annoying Email Habits.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

7. MUST READ about Teeth: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

8. Special festival offer under 3G services
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj

9a. About Our Demands
From: tahirjamadar
9b. Re: About Our Demands
From: RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY

10. Cancer: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh


Messages
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1. service mobile connection in bihar circle
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:09 am ((PDT))



dear friends
as u know that the agenda of service mobile connection was raised at the last
circle council meeting of bihar circle, the minutes of the meeting has been
published. the minutes has been circulated to all telecom districts. i am
quoting the answer-

TTA ko karya ki mahatta evam vibhagiya hit me jarurat ke aadhar par sambandhit
doorsanchar zila pramukhon ke dwara anushansha kar GSM suvidha muhaiyya karane
hetu mukhya mahaprabandhak mahodaya ke anumodan ke liye parimandal karyalaya me
preshit kiya ja sakta hai.


so all the friends of bihar circle r requested to kindly apply through proper
channel for service mobile connection and get it forwarded to circle office. in
any difficulty do call me with ur fax ready so that i can fax the minutes which
is with me

regards

deepak kumar
9431610399


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2. Clarification regarding BSNL learning scheme
Posted by: "shashi bhushan" shashi_bhushan999@yahoo.co.in shashi_bhushan999
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:09 am ((PDT))

I want to know that If any one non-executive employee of BSNL allready started
management/core discipline program before 01.10.2010, then he is elligible to
"BSNL LEARNING SCHEME" or not.
 shashi bhushan

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3a. Username for CDR
Posted by: "rupesh" rupeshwaghale@yahoo.co.in rupeshwaghale
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:09 am ((PDT))

Friends those who r working with crm & clarity r have there own username or used sde or jtos uname Why we work with other account

Messages in this topic (3)
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3b. Re: Username for CDR
Posted by: "Jugal Kishor Nagar" jknagar_67@yahoo.com jknagar_67
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:26 am ((PDT))

Dear Brother because SDEs are not able to work on this system rather they don't
want to work as they are busy in their own activities and they could not project
their demands of getting user name for TTAs working under them as they are
supposed to work on the CDR project. So they have their username to show to the
higherups as they are actually working on the system but we only can understand
who is actually working.
So pls donot think about them do your work and hope BSNL get rid of these
peoples soon and read few lines underwritten
"There are two types of groups one who completes the job and one who takes the
credit
so be a part of the first group because there is less competition in that group"
Bye


________________________________
From: rupesh <rupeshwaghale@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 21 October, 2010 1:03:58 PM
Subject: TTABSNL Username for CDR


Friends those who r working with crm & clarity r have there own username or used
sde or jtos uname Why we work with other account


Messages in this topic (3)
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3c. Re: Username for CDR
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:13 pm ((PDT))

very well said jugal kishor ji...
its the crux of the today's operational system in bsnl.

every one should be well aware of this tactics. we do the jobs for them and
they (higher officers) take credit for it.
even employees productivity increases as per the Data given by GS BSNLEU to
BSNL Mgmt for the purpose of Bonus issue.
and we all have seen that after pay revision their (executives) salaries
have gone substantial up rather than ours.
All knows that working hands of BSNL are TTAs and JTOs nowadays.

pls demand for the creation of ur own useranames & passwords and keep them
safe for the working.

*bandhan preet singh*

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Jugal Kishor Nagar <jknagar_67@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dear Brother because SDEs are not able to work on this system rather they
> don't want to work as they are busy in their own activities and they could
> not project their demands of getting user name for TTAs working under them
> as they are supposed to work on the CDR project. So they have their username
> to show to the higherups as they are actually working on the system but we
> only can understand who is actually working.
> So pls donot think about them do your work and hope BSNL get rid of these
> peoples soon and read few lines underwritten
> "There are two types of groups one who completes the job and one who takes
> the credit
> so be a part of the first group because there is less competition in that
> group"
> Bye
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* rupesh <rupeshwaghale@yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, 21 October, 2010 1:03:58 PM
> *Subject:* TTABSNL Username for CDR
>
>
>
> Friends those who r working with crm & clarity r have there own username or
> used sde or jtos uname Why we work with other account
>
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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4. Clarification on special mobile "Home Unlimited Plan"
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:10 am ((PDT))

Corporate Office has issued some clarifications reg. HOME UNLIMITED PLAN under 2G Mobile services for BSNL landline customers. Please see attachment.
: Sudesh Kr. Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg) Amritsar


1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/605479253/item/list

Clarification on Home Unlimited Plan.pdf

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5a. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:26 am ((PDT))

dear santosh ji
the point of discussion is not exactly this. actually it was just an
illustration. what i want to say is that even getting that much vote and being
the second union NFTE and FNTO combined has no powers of negotiation with the
management. and after 5th verification the case will be same that winning party
will be in power and if we will not be lucky enough to be with winning alliance,
will increase our misery.

regards
deepak kumar

________________________________
From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 11:08:55 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries


Dear frnds,
NFTE and FNTO fought together last time under the umbrella of NFTE. But this
time FNTO is fighting alone and is looking out for partners. so dont consider
the last time count. Its a different story now.

regards,
Santosh J. Devadiga.
9422268970

________________________________
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 20 October, 2010 6:42:57 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries


it is based roughly on the votes in the last verification as this is the only
criteria of recognition.

regards
deepak kumar
9431610399

________________________________
From: abhilash v <abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:31:58 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries


Dear Deepak,
You have written that now NFTE has nearly 48% of membership. Is it a correct
figure from the salary subscription basis or just an assumption? If you have
clear figure then please do provide it. It will be helpful for us.
yours
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766

--- On Tue, 19/10/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 6:42 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>dear lalit ji
>it is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss
>the consequences of this.
>at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh
>(GS) is in doing any thing in our favour? Suppose we support BSNLEU in next
>verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our
>demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas
>r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us. actually
>the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
>
>
>regards
>deepak kumar
>9431610399
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>
>
>Deepak Ji
> In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with
>dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the
>unions at all levels.
> But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
>1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and
>after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or
>dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office
>bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like
>differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA &
>TTA)
>2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual
>membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any
>thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct
>for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why
>tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist
>who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying duffer because u may feel
>shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist
>a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U
>know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are
>donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from
>the beginning f the SNATTA.
> So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the
>injustice against TTAs we have to come forward as a union under a single
>umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that
>how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand
>financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions,
>create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union
>activities.
>Thanks
>Lalit singh
>CS UP(E)
>
>--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
>>Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear friends
>>
>>
>>As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some
>>food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very
>>compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
>>
>>
>>The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either
>>absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and
>>BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians,
>>PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised
>> union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large
>>in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was
>>in the hands of Sr TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and
>>TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings
>>the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated
>>with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie
>>BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is nil or very few TTAs
>>in its district, circle or national bodies.
>>
>>
>>TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500
>>scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party,
>>NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more
>>qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at
>>only 5000.
>>
>>
>>After the formation of SNATTA the bold face of TTA was shown to all. The party
>>supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created unrest
>>in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason
>>is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the
>>election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they
>>will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.
>>Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions
>>has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres
>>interest.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>SOLUTION-
>> On this platform and others there r many call
>>to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i
>>disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should
>>continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
>>of all the unions at all levels.
>>
>>
>>Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
>>
>>
>>Deepak Kumar
>>9431610399
>>
>
>


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5b. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:48 am ((PDT))

deepak Ji
   As i given my views before Goa aic and was expecting some healthy discussion and concrete solution for funding to SNATTA. but unfortunately i was not able to come to goa because of ayodhya issue. the result of goa aic was also not as expected, there was no discussion about union vs association, funding procedure for snatta, role of snatta in forthcoming verfication, further struggle for 7 year to 5year in jto lice and even though next conference venue is also undecided. As for as support is concerned we are supporting bsnleu since last 4 year physically, morally and financially but  we got adverse results (poor wage revision, discrimination in NEPP, JTO lice and designation change is still awaited though we have written agreement with bsnleu perhaps u remember). So i think we don't have a single point to support bsnleu & i feel winability factor must not be a criteria to support any union but to support those union which work for us and at least
do something for betterment for TTAs not adverse as bsnleu did. As for as nfte is concerned, we opposed nfte in the last verification then how we can expect something from them though they are talking for ttas because of voting constraints.
lalit singh
cs upe
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 18:42

 






dear lalit jiit is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss the consequences of this. at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh (GS) is in doing any thing in our favour?  Suppose we support BSNLEU in next verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us.
actually the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
regardsdeepak kumar9431610399
 
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries

 




Deepak Ji
   In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue
with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
of  all the unions at all levels.
 But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA & TTA)
2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying
duffer because u may feel shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from the beginning f the SNATTA.
   So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the injustice against TTAs  we have to come forward as a union under a single umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions, create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union activities.
Thanks
Lalit singh
CS UP(E) 

--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar
<deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14

 




Dear friends
As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians, PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised   union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was in the hands of Sr
TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is  nil or very few TTAs in its district, circle or national bodies.
TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500 scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party, NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at only 5000.
After the  formation of SNATTA the bold face of  TTA was shown to all. The party supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created
unrest in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres interest. 

SOLUTION-                             On this platform and others there r many call to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
of  all the unions at all levels.
Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
Deepak Kumar9431610399







Messages in this topic (11)
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5c. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:47 am ((PDT))

dear lalit ji
i had mentioned the route cause of all these things in my first mail. which is
no tta is there in core group of any union. so our agendas can not go there by
itself. and for this dual membership with motive of gathering important and key
posts of all the unions at all levels is necessary.

regards
deepak kumar
9431610399

________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 12:39:06 AM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries


deepak Ji
As i given my views before Goa aic and was expecting some healthy discussion
and concrete solution for funding to SNATTA. but unfortunately i was not able to
come to goa because of ayodhya issue. the result of goa aic was also not as
expected, there was no discussion about union vs association, funding procedure
for snatta, role of snatta in forthcoming verfication, further struggle for 7
year to 5year in jto lice and even though next conference venue is also
undecided. As for as support is concerned we are supporting bsnleu since last 4
year physically, morally and financially but we got adverse results (poor wage
revision, discrimination in NEPP, JTO lice and designation change is still
awaited though we have written agreement with bsnleu perhaps u remember). So i
think we don't have a single point to support bsnleu & i feel winability factor
must not be a criteria to support any union but to support those union which
work for us and at least do something for betterment for TTAs not adverse as
bsnleu did. As for as nfte is concerned, we opposed nfte in the last
verification then how we can expect something from them though they are talking
for ttas because of voting constraints.
lalit singh
cs upe
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 18:42
>
>
>
>
>
>dear lalit ji
>it is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss
>the consequences of this.
>at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh
>(GS) is in doing any thing in our favour? Suppose we support BSNLEU in next
>verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our
>demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas
>r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us. actually
>the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
>
>
>regards
>deepak kumar
>9431610399
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
>Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>
>
>Deepak Ji
> In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with
>dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the
>unions at all levels.
> But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
>1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and
>after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or
>dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office
>bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like
>differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA &
>TTA)
>2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual
>membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any
>thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct
>for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why
>tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist
>who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying duffer because u may feel
>shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist
>a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U
>know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are
>donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from
>the beginning f the SNATTA.
> So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the
>injustice against TTAs we have to come forward as a union under a single
>umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that
>how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand
>financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions,
>create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union
>activities.
>Thanks
>Lalit singh
>CS UP(E)
>
>--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>>Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
>>Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear friends
>>
>>
>>As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some
>>food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very
>>compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
>>
>>
>>The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either
>>absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and
>>BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians,
>>PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised
>> union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large
>>in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was
>>in the hands of Sr TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and
>>TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings
>>the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated
>>with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie
>>BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is nil or very few TTAs
>>in its district, circle or national bodies.
>>
>>
>>TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500
>>scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party,
>>NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more
>>qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at
>>only 5000.
>>
>>
>>After the formation of SNATTA the bold face of TTA was shown to all. The party
>>supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created unrest
>>in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason
>>is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the
>>election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they
>>will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.
>>Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions
>>has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres
>>interest.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>SOLUTION-
>> On this platform and others there r many call
>>to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i
>>disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should
>>continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
>>of all the unions at all levels.
>>
>>
>>Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
>>
>>
>>Deepak Kumar
>>9431610399
>>
>
>


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6. 10 Annoying Email Habits.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:26 am ((PDT))

*10 Annoying Email Habits*

Personally, I think email is such a fabulous invention! (It's fast, it's
free, it's eco-friendly and it's easy.) And that's precisely why I can't
seem to fathom how people somehow manage to ruin a perfectly good thing.
Wondering what I'm talking about? From spam and chain mails to ridiculous
email ids,

*here are 10 things you really shouldn't do with your email!*

*1)* Probably the easiest way to show how juvenile you are would be to pick
an email id like sexyroxy or ivegonebananas or shahidsweety. Sure it'll be a
hit among your "circle" of wannabes but if you so much as try to use that
email address for anything remotely professional, you can be sure you're
going under. *Resumes I read with those email ids generally hit the trash
can first!*

*2)* It's an email, not an SMS. *So why would you use SMS lingo?* Spending
half an hour deciphering what you're trying to say is really not my idea of
fun. I'd probably just junk your email anyway and pretend like I never
received it in the first place.

*3)* Sending an occasional forwarded message (say a bunch of funny photos or
a howlarious joke or even a social awareness message) is cool. But keep up
that incessant *spamming with ridiculous quizzes,* *spooky forwards that
claim to bring bad luck for 7 years* and other cr** I have no time to read
and you'll only make your way faster into my "blocked" list. BTW there's a
term for this disorder you suffer from. It's called forwarditis!

*4)* *Big, fat, ugly fonts* - I hate these with a vengeance. It's in no way
artistic. Besides, I have perfectly good eyesight and don't need you to
highlight, colour or capitalise your text.

*5)* This one usually happens in offices. Everyone is marked on an official
email that requires you to mail back with some personal detail. *You hit
'Reply all' and let the whole world read your details.* Quite frankly, I
don't want/ need to. Spare me the details and don't waste my inbox space!

*6)* *Then there are the email wars!* This is between two people who insist
on arguing (or in their words 'sorting out differences') on a group email
while the rest of us get an update every two minutes. Take it offline for
heaven's sake!

*7)* *When you want to send mass e-mails about some good cause or the other,
always (and I repeat always) use the BCC field to enter e-mail ids.* Bad
enough I'm receiving a forward. It only gets worse when that creepy guy on
your mailing list gets hold of my email address and tries to "make
friendship" with me.

*8)* *Another thing that really irks me is when people mail me with dozens
of attachments that are so heavy it takes me all day to download*. Haven't
you ever heard of zipping files? What's worse is when they mail you files
that only play in some software that you'd never think of downloading even
in your wildest dreams.

*9)* *Ever had a friend or colleague who always ended his e-mail with an
annoying tagline? *My advice to him: Stop trying so hard to sound cool,
witty or whatever else it is you are going for by ending your emails with
catchphrases like 'I don't drive fast, I fly low.' When you do it in Flash,
the emails get heavier and I only dislike you more!

*10)* Here's another annoying habit: *Sending an email that's all about the
attachment and there's no attachment!* Guess there are so many people that
do this that Urban Dictionary actually coined a term for it - "attachment
disorder."


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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7. MUST READ about Teeth: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:27 am ((PDT))

*MUST READ about Teeth: Read the Last Paragraphs.*


[image: teeth.jpg]


*How Soft-Drink can make your health miserable.*

Each time you consume soft-drink, it takes away thin layer of bone from your
body. In one experiment one person kept a broken tooth in a bottle of of a
soft-drink and in 10 days tooth got dissolved into soft drink. Your tooth
and bone will decay each time you take soft- drink. Our human body stops
building bones after around the age of 30. Dissolved bone in soft-drink
accumulate at other organ of body like liver or kidney and can damage it.

The other true story is- Few months ago, there was a competition in Delhi
University (India) �Who can drink the most Soft-Drink?� The winner drank 8
bottles of Soft-Drink and Died at the spot because of too much carbon
dioxide in the blood and not enough oxygen.

*The calorie in soft-drink is very high. It can affect adversely to your
health. So, it will be better to consume Fresh Fruit Juice, Sugarcane Juice
Lassi, Jal-jeera, Rooafza Sharbat, Lemon Drink or Milk Shakes instead of
soft-drinks.*

Pls forward such life saving messages to all your friends and *keep kids
away from soft-drink or aerated water.*

--
regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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8. Special festival offer under 3G services
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:14 pm ((PDT))


 On the occasion of ensuing festival season, BSNL introduces promotional offers for 3G services.
: Sudesh Kumar
TTA (Mktg) Amritsar


1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1162885505/item/list

Festival offer 3G.pdf

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9a. About Our Demands
Posted by: "tahirjamadar" tahirjamadar@yahoo.com tahirjamadar
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:02 am ((PDT))

Dear CHQ

I was read on BSNLEU site, that they are called strike for 3 days on 1st Dec to 3rd Dec 2010 on various issues,

Obviously BSNLEU will call us for our valuable support for strike, My humbled request to our chq is that the issues for which they called strike, we will force to BSNLEU GS to include our issues in that list also e.g. 1) JTO exam 2) Pay fixation for on & after batch 2007 & 3) designation change issue

Out of our three major issues we know that first one is not solved in 1 month but rest of two issues will be solved.

So our chq will create pressure on BSNLEU GS,

Regards
Tahir Jamadar
TTA-Kolhapur-NIB
9421761700

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9b. Re: About Our Demands
Posted by: "RAJ KUMAR UPADHYAY" ttamktgmtr@gmail.com raj.ku73
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:01 am ((PDT))

It may be a good move.

RK UPADHYAY
TTA (MKTG)
MATHURA

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:29 AM, tahirjamadar <tahirjamadar@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dear CHQ
>
> I was read on BSNLEU site, that they are called strike for 3 days on 1st
> Dec to 3rd Dec 2010 on various issues,
>
> Obviously BSNLEU will call us for our valuable support for strike, My
> humbled request to our chq is that the issues for which they called strike,
> we will force to BSNLEU GS to include our issues in that list also e.g. 1)
> JTO exam 2) Pay fixation for on & after batch 2007 & 3) designation change
> issue
>
> Out of our three major issues we know that first one is not solved in 1
> month but rest of two issues will be solved.
>
> So our chq will create pressure on BSNLEU GS,
>
> Regards
> Tahir Jamadar
> TTA-Kolhapur-NIB
> 9421761700
>
>
>


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10. Cancer: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:01 am ((PDT))

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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