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1a. Re: AP CIRCLE LIST FOR DELHI CAT CASE-REG
From: Srinivas Vanga
2a. Re: Atleast Hakim Singh (The God Of Punjab,s TTA) (Raj thackeray of
From: Sunil shinde
2b. Re: Atleast Hakim Singh (The God Of Punjab,s TTA) (Raj thackeray of
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab
3a. Fw: [BSNLNEWS] Digest Number 39
From: meet_pyar chaudhari
3b. Re: Fw: [BSNLNEWS] Digest Number 39
From: G S Rajawat
4. BSNL board has not approved VRS plan : Kuldeep Goyal
From: mukesh vaghela
5a. Re: Wage revision approved
From: Rajkumar sengodan
6. with whom we have to fight Kargil War Sh. Raj thackeray of bsnl (sh
From: surinder kumar
7. Fwd:[FFO] Positive Approach !!!!
From: vikas thareja
8a. FINAL LIST OF INELIGIBLE MEMBERS FROM PUNJAB.
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab
8b. Re: FINAL LIST OF INELIGIBLE MEMBERS FROM PUNJAB.
From: BP Singh
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1a. Re: AP CIRCLE LIST FOR DELHI CAT CASE-REG
Posted by: "Srinivas Vanga" srinivanga@yahoo.com srinivasvng
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:26 pm ((PST))
Dear Prasad.T
I Srinivas TTA(DOTSOFT)-HTD sending attachment of Ineligible list of candidates of HTD
So please include in that list
Srinivas Vanga
+919440338033
+91-40-27663055
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Prasad.T. <global_pra@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Prasad.T. <global_pra@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] AP CIRCLE LIST FOR DELHI CAT CASE-REG
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 1:59 PM
dear TTA'S of ANDRA PRADESH,
please check in the attachment list,for ur name and any modification of ur and ur ssa ttas details.This list also uploaded in TTABSNL YAHOOGROUPS data base.Informe me about changes to this mail id.Here we are planning for all TTAs database.Please send the data of ur ssa ttas,with their mobile nos and mail id,if u have and if u can prepare.
Best regards,
Prasad.T,
TTA(BB),KHAMMAM,
ANDRA PRADESH-507001
my id:global_pra@yahoo. com
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2a. Re: Atleast Hakim Singh (The God Of Punjab,s TTA) (Raj thackeray of
Posted by: "Sunil shinde" sbs4640@yahoo.com sbs4640
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:29 pm ((PST))
surendar kumar tum raj thakare ke bare me tum kya jante ho. jo bhi hindi medea ne unki image khadi ki hai us base pe tum raj thakre ka naam as a villen ke rup me le rahe ho. tumhara hakim singh se kya problem hai isase mujhe koi len den nahi lekin marathi hridaysamrat shri rajsaheb thakare ka nam tumhe aise lene ka koi haq nahi hai. agali bar ye phir galti na ho.
sunil shinde
tta kolhapur maharashtra
9404655444
--- On Fri, 12/3/10, surinder kumar <surinder_er@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: surinder kumar <surinder_er@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Atleast Hakim Singh (The God Of Punjab,s TTA) (Raj thackeray of BSNL PUNJAB) Accept we had Given Money
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:51 PM
Friends i am sorry to right this because a person who completely wants to be RAJ thackeray of SNATTA BSNL PUNJAB at least saying that people from jalandhar had submitted money. The person who threaten us for money says give me 6000 otherwise I wil not sent any name of yours and talked in Raj thackeray style for supporting only punjabi ground not a logical ground seems he want to be GOD. This is all because we had submitted whole 2600 rupees of my thirteen friends directly to chq account as our TTA Friends don't trust hakim Singh who had already taken a lot of money from us never sent that money to chq. Just think this time why he is writing bcos nobody bothered about this crook. He had never taken care of new friends too they will suffer all because of this person. Every body in Our circle knows the reality of Hakim singh so don't worry friends he will be like this only.
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2b. Re: Atleast Hakim Singh (The God Of Punjab,s TTA) (Raj thackeray of
Posted by: "Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab" circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:47 pm ((PST))
*Dear all members of jallandhar,*
In reply to mail of surinder
kumar,i have to share one incident that is , I HAVE MY TWO COUSINS IN ARMY,
THEY SAID TO ME THAT WHEN THERE IS KARGIL WAR IN JAMMU & KASHMIR , THEN THEY
DEPUTED TO *KARGIL*,ON A WAY THAT ON MANY STATION ,MANY PEOPLES CAME AT
STATION TO BOOST OUR MORAL BY GIVING US ONE PACKET OF* PARLE BISCUIT* & SAID
THAT *BHARAT MATA KI JAI,CRUSH THE ENEMY*.
Similar view also given by surinder , he
wants to becomes eligible for jto-exam(KARGIL WAR ) JUST BY DONATING RS. 50
OR 1OO ONLY(PARLE BISCUIT ONLY).He said that they donated RS.2600 UPTO
12-3-2010, BUT IT IS NOT A TRUTH UPTO 8-3-2010 ,THEY ONLY SUBMITTED RS.1300
ONLY , IT IS ONLY AFTER 8-3-2010 ATER HOT ARGUMENT WITH ME , HE SUBMITTED
AGAIN 1300,WHICH IS EASY TO CONFIRM FROM MR. SACHIN BHATT OUR NATIONAL
CASHIER (* THIS WILL DECIDE HE IS A LIER ONLY*).
* PLEASE SHOW(TO SURINDER ) THE DETAILS ON YAHOO
GROUP ABOUT MONEY WHICH YOU GIVEN TO ME & WHICH I USED FOR PERSONAL MATTER
?( I HAVE ALSO SAID TO DS & DP OF JALANDHAR TO SHOW ALL MONEY GIVEN TO ME
FROM JALANDHAR).*
**
* I AM NOT A GOD & RAJ THACKERAY BUT A SOLDIER
OF SNATTA, I KEPT MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT OPEN(IN TERM OF TIME ,SERVICE,ANY DUTY
FOR SNATTA ) TO SERVE MY BELOVED SNATTA,(TO UNDERSTAND MY SERVICE TO SNATTA
YOU NEED A GOOD HEART IN PLACE OF YOUR GOOD BRAIN) .THE PROBLEM OF BRAIN IS
THAT IT IS ALWAYS BUSY WITH CALCULATIONS. *
**
* For new tta i have done which i could, which is
better known to CHQ-SNATTA.During entire period of WAGE NEGOTIATIONS , I
HAVE BEHAVED AS EAR,MOUTH & EYES FOR SNATTA & ITS CONCERNED,WHICH WAS ALSO
RECOGNISED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF WAGE COMMITTEE,BUT I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT MY
OWN PEOPLES LIKE SURINDER NOT RECOGNISED THIS.*
**
* EVERY INSTITUTE DEMANDS TIME & MONEY WHICH YOU BOTH
REFUSED TO GIVE.I ALSO REQUEST ALL MEMBERS OF JALANDHAR PLEASE ARRANGE A
MEETING AS SOON AS YOU CAN,THEN I WILL EXPLAIN EVERY THING TO YOU IN FRONT
OF ALL MEMBERS OF JALANDHAR.*
**
* From mail of surinder & other ,it is very clear
that they are not familiar with my reality, in reply i have to say this only
that my daughter ( 5 years only) recognised my work for snatta because
whenever there is call on my mobile then she always said that dad pick
the"* *phone of your TTAS"* *(SHE RECOGNISED THAT MY FATHER ALWAYS BUSY WITH
ACTIVITIES OF TTAS & MY DELHI EPISODE OF 9 MONTHS FOR WAGE REVISION).*
**
* ***
**
*WITH REGARDS,*
**
*HAKAM SINGH,*
*CS-SNATTA-PB,*
*09417277177.*
**
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM, surinder kumar <surinder_er@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> Friends i am sorry to right this because a person who completely wants
> to be RAJ thackeray of SNATTA BSNL PUNJAB at least saying that people from
> jalandhar had submitted money. The person who threaten us for money says
> give me 6000 otherwise I wil not sent any name of yours and talked in Raj
> thackeray style for supporting only punjabi ground not a logical ground
> seems he want to be GOD. This is all because we had submitted whole 2600
> rupees of my thirteen friends directly to chq account as our TTA Friends
> don�t trust hakim Singh who had already taken a lot of money from us never
> sent that money to chq. Just think this time why he is writing bcos nobody
> bothered about this crook. He had never taken care of new friends too they
> will suffer all because of this person. Every body in Our circle knows the
> reality of Hakim singh so don�t worry friends he will be like this only.
>
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3a. Fw: [BSNLNEWS] Digest Number 39
Posted by: "meet_pyar chaudhari" meet_pyar@yahoo.co.in meet_pyar
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:29 pm ((PST))
hi friends
here i want to share some things
as per my thinking we (SNATTA) should support sam report.because report suggests long term solution for BSNL and we also serve for BSNL for long term.and we young generation have no problem to work in either govt. or private firm.also no one union has stand for BSNL recruited staff.the such report direct affect to those who are not ready for work to BSNL.there are also many reasons for support to BSNL managemant for such times.
think every snatta member for this matter.
YOUR'S TRULY
M J CHAUDHARI
LOCAL JCM
TTA PALANPUR
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Subject: [BSNLNEWS] Digest Number 39
To: BSNLNEWS@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Wednesday, 10 March, 2010, 5:07 PM
BSNL
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Sitting on Rs 35,000-cr cash, BSNL may start PE From: mukesh vaghela
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BSNL likely to float new tender soon From: mukesh vaghela
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Secy swings with boss on GSM lines From: mukesh vaghela
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BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Ka From: mukesh vaghela
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BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender From: mukesh vaghela
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BSNL artificially inflating mobile user base, says Govt nominee on b From: mukesh vaghela
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India's BSNL Inflating its Subscriber Base From: mukesh vaghela
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Spectrum charge norms hurting us, says Vodafone From: mukesh vaghela
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Sitting on Rs 35,000-cr cash, BSNL may start PE
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:30 am
NEW DELHI: State-owned BSNL, which has about Rs 35,000 crore in cash reserves, is examining the option of using part of this to create a private equity (PE) or venture fund, which will invest in technology and IT-related firms, especially start-ups.
Setting up a venture fund was part of the 15 points suggested by a three-member panel headed by Sam Pitroda and set-up by the Prime Minister's Office to review the performance of the PSU. Top BSNL executives are of the view that a private equity or venture fund can be easily implemented and this move will not face any opposition from employee unions, who have voiced their protest against several of the other recommendations made by the Sam Pitroda headed committee.
According to BSNL's balance sheet for 2008-09 which has been accessed by ET, the telco's cash reserves fell to Rs 35,337 crore at the end of March 2009 from over Rs 40,000 crore a year ago. The only catch is that using a part of its cash reserves for setting up a fund will reduce the income BSNL earns as interest from its bank deposits.
As reported earlier by ET , in 2007-08, the telco's net profit was Rs 3,009 crore on interest income of Rs 4,004 crore, buttressing the case that its profits in the last two years have less to do with its telecom business. In the 2008-09 period, BSNL's interest income from its cash reserves was about Rs 3,900 crore.
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BSNL executives also said that the proposal to create a venture fund would have to be approved by both the Department of Telecom (communications ministry) as well as the finance ministry.
The fund, if established, will also play a key part in helping the telco implement the Pitroda committee recommendation of creating new business models by collaborating with relevant expert organisations and forming joint ventures. "(BSNL) must explore new markets and applications related to enterprise, government, defence, education, health, agriculture, energy, judiciary, new green field cities, transportation, security, safety, police, disaster management, fiber to home to create viable business models in these areas by collaborating with relevant expert organisations to make joint offerings," the report added.
So far, amongst telcos, only Bharti Airtel, India's largest telecom company by revenues and customers , has a venture fund. Called the Bharti Airtel Innovation Fund and with a Rs 200-crore kitty, the telco looking at picking up minority stakes in startups in the technology, media and telecommunications space.
http://economictime s.indiatimes. com/news/ news-by-industry /banking/ finance/finance/ Sitting-on- Rs-35000- cr-cash-BSNL- may-start- PE/articleshow/ 5665708.cms
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BSNL likely to float new tender soon
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:32 am
BSNL likely to float new tender soon
Girja Shankar Kaura
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, March 9
Facing the heat over the controversial $ 10 billion and 93 million GSM line expansion plan, the BSNL may float a new tender soon to keep in pace with other private telecom players in the fastest growing telecom market of the world.
The move is likely to come despite the state-run operator facing another controversy over maintaining unused lines to inflate its subscriber base. The allegations for inflating of the subscriber base have come from J.S. Deepak, the government nominee on its the board.
He has reportedly informed the Department of Telecom that 28.73 per cent of the PSU's mobile network capacity was lying unutilised as the company was maintaining non-existing mobile subscribers to artificially inflate its user base.
He has, in fact, added a new dimension to the expansion controversy by saying that the BSNL has required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and that the 93-million-line project will have been wasteful expenditure.
According to him, cancelling the 93-million-line tender will have no impact on the PSU's roll out.
The statement from Deepak, who is also a joint secretary with the ministry, is contrary to a view within the BSNL that it required buying new network equipment on grounds that the company was facing capacity crunch.
Meanwhile, reports also said the BSNL may soon come out with another new tender to augment its capacity. The tender could be for the lines in the range of 40 to 50 million.
In order to remain in touch with the other operators in the market, this time around the BSNL aims to complete the new procurement process within a 60-day period from the date of issuing the tender, and plans to do away with several controversial clauses that plagued its earlier tenders.
Last week, the BSNL's board has decided to scrap its tender for 93 million GSM lines after dilly dallying for over 20 months and invite fresh bids.
The BSNL board took the decision after a committee led by Sam Pitroda, adviser to the Prime Minister on public information, infrastructure and innovation, had endorsed the Central Vigilance Commission's (CVC) report to scrap the tender. The committee has HDFC chairman Deepak Parekh and telecom department secretary PJ Thomas as its other members.
Delays have already dented BSNL's financials, for the fiscal year to end-March, 2009. Its profit had come down to a measly Rs 575 crore on revenues of Rs 35,811.92 crore and even this profit was possible only because of the interest income it had from its cash reserves of about Rs 3,900 crore.
Reports point out that BSNL's profits had nosedived 81 per cent and revenues fell 6 per cent to a year ago. This is the second successive year that the BSNL witnessed a massive fall in profits despite being one of the largest players in the world's fastest-growing telecom market.
http://www.tribunei ndia.com/ 2010/20100310/ biz.htm
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Secy swings with boss on GSM lines
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:33 am
New Delhi: The BSNL board last week decided to scrap the controversial 93-million line GSM tender after the Central Vigilance Commission and the Sam Pitroda committee recommended it. But seemingly, the department of telecommunications (DoT) was not in favour of the decision.
What else explains the decision of DoT secretary PJ Thomas, who has sought written explanations from the two government nominees on the BSNL board for opposing the tender? Joint secretary JS Deepak and deputy director-general PK Mittal had submitted a dissent note at the BSNL board meeting in December, stating that the tender should not be awarded as the capacity was inflated and the price 'exorbitant'.
Interestingly, Thomas himself as a member of the Pitroda committee recommended for the scrapping of the tender. Could this be a case of the secretary pleasing telecom minister A Raja who had vigorously batted for the tender?
In a letter to the concerned officers, a copy of which is with FE, the secretary has sought to know: "It may be clarified as to why the note had to be submitted in the board meeting when all the issues raised therein could have been discussed and a proper decision taken…if ever such a step was required the approval of the competent authority for such a note should have been taken."
In another letter, the secretary has noted, "Yourself and the other government nominee director have written identical letters, which are not as per the department's approved stand and are at variance with the views of the department." Thomas could not be contacted for his comments on why he was seeking explanation from the officials when he himself was party to the decision to scrap the tender as part of the Pitroda committee. Despite repeated calls his office said he was busy in a meeting while his mobile phone was switched off.
FE was the first to report in its edition dated December 25 regarding the dissent note submitted by the two officials. Later, CVC ordered an enquiry into the alleged irregularities and ordered its scrapping.
Interestingly, DoT transferred one of the officials, Mittal, out of the department a few weeks later.
http://www.financia lexpress. com/news/ Secy-swings- with-boss- on-GSM-lines/ 588946/
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BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Ka
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:34 am
BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Kamat
TT Correspondent | New Delhi | 09 Mar 2010
The Minister of State for Communications & Information Technology, Gurudas Kamat informed the Lok Sabha that mobile services provided by PSUs BSNL and MTNL are working satisfactorily and in general meeting the Quality of Services (QoS) parameters as laid down by regulator TRAI.
The Minister however said that some of the mobile towers become non functional for some duration due to reasons like prolonged power failure, transmission media failure at times.
Alternate arrangement of power supply through Diesel Generator (DG) Sets have been made almost at all sites, he added.
http://www.telecomt iger.com/ Infrastructure_ fullstory. aspx?storyid= 8604§ion= S220
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BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:35 am
BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender
By Mary Lennighan, Total Telecom
Tuesday 09 March 2010
Indian operator planning 40 million-50 million-line GSM tender, with key procedural changes.
India's BSNL suffered a massive loss at its non-mobile operations last fiscal year, it emerged this week.
Simultaneously, the telco also hit the headlines over the re-working of its well-documented multi-million- line GSM tender, and local analyst firm RNCOS revealed its latest predictions for the Indian 3G market.
In a statement released to Lok Sabha - the lower house of India's parliament - on Monday, BSNL published figures that showed its "Other than Cellular" business line incurred a loss of 49.63 billion rupees (US$1.09 billion) in the fiscal year to March 2009.
The telco divides its operations into Cellular and Other than Cellular; the latter includes its fixed-line and broadband businesses.
BSNL provided the statistics at the request of Lok Sabha.
The Economic Times reported that while its non-cellular business racked up this sizeable loss, BSNL as a whole posted a profit of 5.75 billion rupees ($126 million) in the 2008-09 financial year thanks to interest on cash reserves. However, profits were down 81% on the previous year.
The paper also noted that non-telecom- related activities generated 50 billion rupees ($1.1 billion) in income for BSNL in the same year, implying that its mobile business is also not profitable.
It is no secret that BSNL has struggled to keep pace with its rivals in the mobile space in recent years. According to the latest figures from GSM industry body the COAI, BSNL ranked fourth of the GSM players at the end of January with 59.45 million customers and a 15.08% market share. In comparison, market leader Bharti Airtel had 121.71 million customers and a 30.86% share.
The company's problems have stemmed largely from the fact that its network cannot cope with demand and attempts to grow the infrastructure have been mired in controversy.
Last week BSNL finally scrapped its 93-million-line GSM tender, worth up to $10 billion according to various estimates, after a government panel questioned its procurement processes.
On Tuesday the Economic Times reported that BSNL is preparing a new GSM line tender for 40 million-50 million lines. It cited unnamed company executives in the report.
The paper explained that BSNL aims to complete the tender within 60 days of its launch
India's BSNL suffered a massive loss at its non-mobile operations last fiscal year, it emerged this week.
Simultaneously, the telco also hit the headlines over the re-working of its well-documented multi-million- line GSM tender, and local analyst firm RNCOS revealed its latest predictions for the Indian 3G market.
In a statement released to Lok Sabha - the lower house of India's parliament - on Monday, BSNL published figures that showed its "Other than Cellular" business line incurred a loss of 49.63 billion rupees (US$1.09 billion) in the fiscal year to March 2009.
The telco divides its operations into Cellular and Other than Cellular; the latter includes its fixed-line and broadband businesses.
BSNL provided the statistics at the request of Lok Sabha.
The Economic Times reported that while its non-cellular business racked up this sizeable loss, BSNL as a whole posted a profit of 5.75 billion rupees ($126 million) in the 2008-09 financial year thanks to interest on cash reserves. However, profits were down 81% on the previous year.
The paper also noted that non-telecom- related activities generated 50 billion rupees ($1.1 billion) in income for BSNL in the same year, implying that its mobile business is also not profitable.
It is no secret that BSNL has struggled to keep pace with its rivals in the mobile space in recent years. According to the latest figures from GSM industry body the COAI, BSNL ranked fourth of the GSM players at the end of January with 59.45 million customers and a 15.08% market share. In comparison, market leader Bharti Airtel had 121.71 million customers and a 30.86% share.
The company's problems have stemmed largely from the fact that its network cannot cope with demand and attempts to grow the infrastructure have been mired in controversy.
Last week BSNL finally scrapped its 93-million-line GSM tender, worth up to $10 billion according to various estimates, after a government panel questioned its procurement processes.
On Tuesday the Economic Times reported that BSNL is preparing a new GSM line tender for 40 million-50 million lines. It cited unnamed company executives in the report.
The paper explained that BSNL aims to complete the tender within 60 days of its launch
http://www.totaltel e.com/view. aspx?ID=453774
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BSNL artificially inflating mobile user base, says Govt nominee on b
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:35 am
Thomas K. Thomas
New Delhi, March 8
The Government's nominee on the board of Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd, Mr J. S. Deepak, has informed the Department of Telecom that 28.73 per cent of the PSU's mobile network capacity was lying unutilised as the company was maintaining non-existing mobile subscribers to artificially inflate its user base.
Mr Deepak, who is also Joint Secretary in the Telecom Department, has stated that BSNL required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and therefore the 93-million-line project would have been wasteful expenditure.
According to him, cancelling the 93-million-line tender will have no impact on the PSU's roll out. This stand is contrary to a view within BSNL that it required buying new network equipment on grounds that the company was facing capacity crunch.
"An analysis of utilisation of existing GSM capacity shows about 28.73 per cent of BSNL capacity nationally is unutilised on account of maintaining non-existent pre-paid users on register to artificially inflate its subscribers.
Earlier, BSNL retained these subscribers by providing a grace period of about 35 days for pre-paid customers who had not recharged their SIM cards. This has been increased to 180 days even though customers have not renewed their subscription," Mr Deepak said in a note to the DoT.
The Government nominee was told to explain his stand after he had raised objections to BSNL awarding the 93-million-line contract. BSNL has since cancelled the tender.
"My stand is based on prudence which requires that in sectors like telecom where equipment prices are continuously going down and technology is rapidly changing, procurement should be restricted to the requirements of only a few years. This intervention on my part has resulted in BSNL avoiding huge amount of unnecessary capital expenditure in procuring 93 million lines," Mr Deepak added.
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The nominee said that BSNL's losses this year are likely to be Rs 5,000 crore and in addition will be required to make a payment of about Rs 10,000 crore for 3G and broadband spectrum, which will exhaust almost all of the cash reserves within the next two years.
"The decision to procure 93 million lines of 2G/3G equipment was taken by BSNL Board in April, 2008 assuming that BSNL should aspire for a market share of about 30 per cent. However, in the 20 months that BSNL management has been dithering over this tender, the market share of BSNL has come down to about 12 per cent in mobile services. It was pointed out by me to the board that BSNL's ultimate market share may stabilise at about 6 to 8 per cent and consequently its requirement of additional capacity would be far less," Mr Deepak said in his letter.
Mr Kuldeep Goyal, Chairman and Managing Director, BSNL was not available for comments
http://www.thehindu businessline. com/2010/ 03/09/stories/ 2010030954250100 .htm
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India's BSNL Inflating its Subscriber Base
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:36 am
India's Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) has been accused of over-inflating its mobile subscriber base, resulting in nearly a third of its existing network capacity remaining underused. The revelation comes just a few days after the company cancelled a huge tender to expand its existing GSM network capacity, which the company had claimed was vital to its future operations.
The Government's nominee on BSNL's board, Mr J. S. Deepak said that BSNL required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and therefore the now-cancelled 93 million-line project would have been a waste of money.
"An analysis of utilisation of existing GSM capacity shows about 28.73 per cent of BSNL capacity nationally is unutilised on account of maintaining non-existent pre-paid users on register to artificially inflate its subscribers.
Earlier, BSNL retained these subscribers by providing a grace period of about 35 days for pre-paid customers who had not recharged their SIM cards. This has been increased to 180 days even though customers have not renewed their subscription, " Mr Deepak said in a note to the Department of Telecom (DoT), seen by The Hindu Business Line.
He added that BSNL's losses this year are likely to be Rs 5,000 crore and in addition will be required to make a payment of about Rs 10,000 crore for 3G and broadband spectrum, which could exhaust almost all of the company's cash reserves within the next two years.
Although its customer base has risen, he company has been losing market share to the private companies for several years. According to figures from The Mobile World, the operator ended last year with 62.8 million customers, representing a market share of around 12.5%.
http://www.cellular -news.com/ story/42324. php
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Spectrum charge norms hurting us, says Vodafone
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:39 am
Thomas K Thomas
New Delhi, March 9
Vodafone has shot off another letter to the Government saying that the existing structure for collecting spectrum charge is hurting the company as the rules are heavily in favour of players with dual technology. The company has urged the Department of Telecom to introduce an equitable method of charging a fee for spectrum usage.
Under the existing norms, operators pay between 3 per cent and 8 per cent of their annual revenues depending on the quantum of spectrum they hold. For example, Vodafone which holds 10 Mhs spectrum in Delhi has to pay five per cent of its revenues as spectrum charge. A dual technology player, with 5 Mhz of CDMA spectrum and 4.4 Mhz of GSM spectrum, pays three per cent separately for revenues earned from services running on each technology. According to Vodafone, this was unfair as the dual technology player is holding 9.4 Mhz spectrum but does not have to pay as much as the GSM operators have to.
Cost differentiation
"In the current competitive scenario, this cost differentiation is resulting in distinct cost and market advantage to one set of operators. This cost differentiation is now deeply hurting operators like us as it is tantamount to de facto subsidy being extended to one set of operators at our cost. The market and not policy or regulatory levers should decide the winners and losers," said a Vodafone letter to DoT. This is the second note being sent by the operator to DoT in the last two months.
"It is most incorrect and unfair that, for one set of operators, spectrum is distinguished on the basis of technology and the lowest slab rates are applied separately for each technology whilst for the other set of operators, the charges are applied on an escalating basis for every additional tranche of spectrum," it added.
Vodafone said that dual technology players were making much of the fact that they have paid an upfront fee of Rs 1,650 crore for their GSM licences. "It may be noted that Vodafone Essar paid an upfront fee of Rs 2,550 crore for all its licence areas – 55 per cent more than the dual technology operators paid for their GSM licences," Vodafone said.
The telecom regulator is currently in the process of finalising its recommendations on 2G spectrum allocation. Earlier, the Subodh Kumar Committee, appointed by the DoT, had suggested imposing a uniform three per cent spectrum charge for all operators irrespective of the quantum of air waves held after charging an upfront fee. The committee had also suggested delinking the spectrum from licence, which if implemented could help DoT resolve the issue of pending applications which were denied licences in 2007 due to lack of spectrum.
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Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:55 pm ((PST))
HI
i think that the uncle sam reports is for our delighful future..... so we should be with uncle sam ,,,no with the ridiculous people.
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hi friends
here i want to share some things
as per my thinking we (SNATTA) should support sam report.because report suggests long term solution for BSNL and we also serve for BSNL for long term.and we young generation have no problem to work in either govt. or private firm.also no one union has stand for BSNL recruited staff.the such report direct affect to those who are not ready for work to BSNL.there are also many reasons for support to BSNL managemant for such times.
think every snatta member for this matter.
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>Sitting on Rs 35,000-cr cash, BSNL may start PE From: mukesh vaghela
>2.
>BSNL likely to float new tender soon From: mukesh vaghela
>3.
>Secy swings with boss on GSM lines From: mukesh vaghela
>4.
>BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Ka From: mukesh vaghela
>5.
>BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender From: mukesh vaghela
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>BSNL artificially inflating mobile user base, says Govt nominee on b From: mukesh vaghela
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>Sitting on Rs 35,000-cr cash, BSNL may start PE
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:30 am
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>NEW DELHI: State-owned BSNL, which has about Rs 35,000 crore in cash reserves, is examining the option of using part of this to create a private equity (PE) or venture fund, which will invest in technology and IT-related firms, especially start-ups.
>
>Setting up a venture fund was part of the 15 points suggested by a three-member panel headed by Sam Pitroda and set-up by the Prime Minister's Office to review the performance of the PSU. Top BSNL executives are of the view that a private equity or venture fund can be easily implemented and this move will not face any opposition from employee unions, who have voiced their protest against several of the other recommendations made by the Sam Pitroda headed committee.
>
>According to BSNL's balance sheet for 2008-09 which has been accessed by ET, the telco's cash reserves fell to Rs 35,337 crore at
> the end of March 2009 from over Rs 40,000 crore a year ago. The only catch is that using a part of its cash reserves for setting up a fund will reduce the income BSNL earns as interest from its bank deposits.
>
>As reported earlier by ET , in 2007-08, the telco's net profit was Rs 3,009 crore on interest income of Rs 4,004 crore, buttressing the case that its profits in the last two years have less to do with its telecom business. In the 2008-09 period, BSNL's interest income from its cash reserves was about Rs 3,900 crore.
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>Also Read
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> → Rate hike in the air, banks raise Rs 4k-cr CDs a day
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>BSNL executives also said that the proposal to create a venture fund would have to be approved by both the
> Department of Telecom (communications ministry) as well as the finance ministry.
>
>The fund, if established, will also play a key part in helping the telco implement the Pitroda committee recommendation of creating new business models by collaborating with relevant expert organisations and forming joint ventures. "(BSNL) must explore new markets and applications related to enterprise, government, defence, education, health, agriculture, energy, judiciary, new green field cities, transportation, security, safety, police, disaster management, fiber to home to create viable business models in these areas by collaborating with relevant expert organisations to make joint offerings," the report added.
>
>So far, amongst telcos, only Bharti Airtel, India's largest telecom company by revenues and customers , has a venture fund. Called the Bharti Airtel Innovation Fund and with a Rs 200-crore kitty, the telco looking at picking up minority
> stakes in startups in the technology, media and telecommunications space.
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>BSNL likely to float new tender soon
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:32 am
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>BSNL likely to float new tender soon
>Girja Shankar Kaura
>Tribune News Service
>New Delhi, March 9
>Facing the heat over the controversial $ 10 billion and 93 million GSM line expansion plan, the BSNL may float a new tender soon to keep in pace with other private telecom players in the fastest growing telecom market of the world.
>The move is likely to come despite the state-run operator facing another controversy over maintaining unused lines to inflate its subscriber base. The allegations for inflating of the subscriber base have come from J.S. Deepak, the government nominee on its the board.
>He has reportedly informed the Department of Telecom that 28.73 per cent of the PSU's mobile network capacity was lying unutilised as the company was maintaining non-existing mobile subscribers to artificially inflate its user base.
>He has, in
> fact, added a new dimension to the expansion controversy by saying that the BSNL has required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and that the 93-million-line project will have been wasteful expenditure.
>According to him, cancelling the 93-million-line tender will have no impact on the PSU's roll out.
>The statement from Deepak, who is also a joint secretary with the ministry, is contrary to a view within the BSNL that it required buying new network equipment on grounds that the company was facing capacity crunch.
>Meanwhile, reports also said the BSNL may soon come out with another new tender to augment its capacity. The tender could be for the lines in the range of 40 to 50 million.
>In order to remain in touch with the other operators in the market, this time around the BSNL aims to complete the new procurement process within a 60-day period from the date of issuing the tender, and plans to do away with several controversial
> clauses that plagued its earlier tenders.
>Last week, the BSNL's board has decided to scrap its tender for 93 million GSM lines after dilly dallying for over 20 months and invite fresh bids.
>The BSNL board took the decision after a committee led by Sam Pitroda, adviser to the Prime Minister on public information, infrastructure and innovation, had endorsed the Central Vigilance Commission's (CVC) report to scrap the tender. The committee has HDFC chairman Deepak Parekh and telecom department secretary PJ Thomas as its other members.
>Delays have already dented BSNL's financials, for the fiscal year to end-March, 2009. Its profit had come down to a measly Rs 575 crore on revenues of Rs 35,811.92 crore and even this profit was possible only because of the interest income it had from its cash reserves of about Rs 3,900 crore.
>Reports point out that BSNL's profits had nosedived 81 per cent and revenues fell 6 per cent to a year ago.
> This is the second successive year that the BSNL witnessed a massive fall in profits despite being one of the largest players in the world's fastest-growing telecom market.
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>Secy swings with boss on GSM lines
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:33 am
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>New Delhi: The BSNL board last week decided to scrap the controversial 93-million line GSM tender after the Central Vigilance Commission and the Sam Pitroda committee recommended it. But seemingly, the department of telecommunications (DoT) was not in favour of the decision.
>What else explains the decision of DoT secretary PJ Thomas, who has sought written explanations from the two government nominees on the BSNL board for opposing the tender? Joint secretary JS Deepak and deputy director-general PK Mittal had submitted a dissent note at the BSNL board meeting in December, stating that the tender should not be awarded as the capacity was inflated and the price 'exorbitant'.
>Interestingly, Thomas himself as a member of the Pitroda committee recommended for the scrapping of the tender. Could this be a case of the secretary pleasing telecom minister
> A Raja who had vigorously batted for the tender?
>In a letter to the concerned officers, a copy of which is with FE, the secretary has sought to know: "It may be clarified as to why the note had to be submitted in the board meeting when all the issues raised therein could have been discussed and a proper decision taken…if ever such a step was required the approval of the competent authority for such a note should have been taken."
>In another letter, the secretary has noted, "Yourself and the other government nominee director have written identical letters, which are not as per the department's approved stand and are at variance with the views of the department." Thomas could not be contacted for his comments on why he was seeking explanation from the officials when he himself was party to the decision to scrap the tender as part of the Pitroda committee. Despite repeated calls his office said he was busy in a meeting while his mobile
> phone was switched off.
>FE was the first to report in its edition dated December 25 regarding the dissent note submitted by the two officials. Later, CVC ordered an enquiry into the alleged irregularities and ordered its scrapping.
>Interestingly, DoT transferred one of the officials, Mittal, out of the department a few weeks later.
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>BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Ka
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:34 am
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>BSNL, MTNL's network performance overall satisfactory says Kamat
>TT Correspondent | New Delhi | 09 Mar 2010
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>The Minister of State for Communications & Information Technology, Gurudas Kamat informed the Lok Sabha that mobile services provided by PSUs BSNL and MTNL are working satisfactorily and in general meeting the Quality of Services (QoS) parameters as laid down by regulator TRAI.
>The Minister however said that some of the mobile towers become non functional for some duration due to reasons like prolonged power failure, transmission media failure at times.
>Alternate arrangement of power supply through Diesel Generator (DG) Sets have been made almost at all sites, he added.
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>BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:35 am
>
>
>BSNL suffers massive non-mobile loss, rethinks GSM tender
>By Mary Lennighan, Total Telecom
>Tuesday 09 March 2010
>Indian operator planning 40 million-50 million-line GSM tender, with key procedural changes.
>India's BSNL suffered a massive loss at its non-mobile operations last fiscal year, it emerged this week.
>Simultaneously, the telco also hit the headlines over the re-working of its well-documented multi-million- line GSM tender, and local analyst firm RNCOS revealed its latest predictions for the Indian 3G market.
>In a statement released to Lok Sabha - the lower house of India's parliament - on Monday, BSNL published figures that showed its "Other than Cellular" business line incurred a loss of 49.63 billion rupees (US$1.09 billion) in the fiscal year to March 2009.
>The telco divides its operations into Cellular and Other than
> Cellular; the latter includes its fixed-line and broadband businesses.
>BSNL provided the statistics at the request of Lok Sabha.
>The Economic Times reported that while its non-cellular business racked up this sizeable loss, BSNL as a whole posted a profit of 5.75 billion rupees ($126 million) in the 2008-09 financial year thanks to interest on cash reserves. However, profits were down 81% on the previous year.
>The paper also noted that non-telecom- related activities generated 50 billion rupees ($1.1 billion) in income for BSNL in the same year, implying that its mobile business is also not profitable.
>It is no secret that BSNL has struggled to keep pace with its rivals in the mobile space in recent years. According to the latest figures from GSM industry body the COAI, BSNL ranked fourth of the GSM players at the end of January with 59.45 million customers and a 15.08% market share. In comparison, market leader Bharti Airtel had 121.71
> million customers and a 30.86% share.
>The company's problems have stemmed largely from the fact that its network cannot cope with demand and attempts to grow the infrastructure have been mired in controversy.
>Last week BSNL finally scrapped its 93-million-line GSM tender, worth up to $10 billion according to various estimates, after a government panel questioned its procurement processes.
>On Tuesday the Economic Times reported that BSNL is preparing a new GSM line tender for 40 million-50 million lines. It cited unnamed company executives in the report.
>The paper explained that BSNL aims to complete the tender within 60 days of its launch
>India's BSNL suffered a massive loss at its non-mobile operations last fiscal year, it emerged this week.
>Simultaneously, the telco also hit the headlines over the re-working of its well-documented multi-million- line GSM tender, and local analyst firm RNCOS revealed its latest predictions for the
> Indian 3G market.
>In a statement released to Lok Sabha - the lower house of India's parliament - on Monday, BSNL published figures that showed its "Other than Cellular" business line incurred a loss of 49.63 billion rupees (US$1.09 billion) in the fiscal year to March 2009.
>The telco divides its operations into Cellular and Other than Cellular; the latter includes its fixed-line and broadband businesses.
>BSNL provided the statistics at the request of Lok Sabha.
>The Economic Times reported that while its non-cellular business racked up this sizeable loss, BSNL as a whole posted a profit of 5.75 billion rupees ($126 million) in the 2008-09 financial year thanks to interest on cash reserves. However, profits were down 81% on the previous year.
>The paper also noted that non-telecom- related activities generated 50 billion rupees ($1.1 billion) in income for BSNL in the same year, implying that its mobile business is also not profitable.
>It
> is no secret that BSNL has struggled to keep pace with its rivals in the mobile space in recent years. According to the latest figures from GSM industry body the COAI, BSNL ranked fourth of the GSM players at the end of January with 59.45 million customers and a 15.08% market share. In comparison, market leader Bharti Airtel had 121.71 million customers and a 30.86% share.
>The company's problems have stemmed largely from the fact that its network cannot cope with demand and attempts to grow the infrastructure have been mired in controversy.
>Last week BSNL finally scrapped its 93-million-line GSM tender, worth up to $10 billion according to various estimates, after a government panel questioned its procurement processes.
>On Tuesday the Economic Times reported that BSNL is preparing a new GSM line tender for 40 million-50 million lines. It cited unnamed company executives in the report.
>The paper explained that BSNL aims to complete the tender
> within 60 days of its launch
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>BSNL artificially inflating mobile user base, says Govt nominee on b
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:35 am
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>Thomas K. Thomas
>New Delhi, March 8
>The Government's nominee on the board of Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd, Mr J. S. Deepak, has informed the Department of Telecom that 28.73 per cent of the PSU's mobile network capacity was lying unutilised as the company was maintaining non-existing mobile subscribers to artificially inflate its user base.
>Mr Deepak, who is also Joint Secretary in the Telecom Department, has stated that BSNL required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and therefore the 93-million-line project would have been wasteful expenditure.
>According to him, cancelling the 93-million-line tender will have no impact on the PSU's roll out. This stand is contrary to a view within BSNL that it required buying new network equipment on grounds that the company was facing capacity crunch.
>"An analysis of utilisation of existing GSM
> capacity shows about 28.73 per cent of BSNL capacity nationally is unutilised on account of maintaining non-existent pre-paid users on register to artificially inflate its subscribers.
>Earlier, BSNL retained these subscribers by providing a grace period of about 35 days for pre-paid customers who had not recharged their SIM cards. This has been increased to 180 days even though customers have not renewed their subscription," Mr Deepak said in a note to the DoT.
>The Government nominee was told to explain his stand after he had raised objections to BSNL awarding the 93-million-line contract. BSNL has since cancelled the tender.
>"My stand is based on prudence which requires that in sectors like telecom where equipment prices are continuously going down and technology is rapidly changing, procurement should be restricted to the requirements of only a few years. This intervention on my part has resulted in BSNL avoiding huge amount of
> unnecessary capital expenditure in procuring 93 million lines," Mr Deepak added.
>tkt@thehindu. co.in
>The nominee said that BSNL's losses this year are likely to be Rs 5,000 crore and in addition will be required to make a payment of about Rs 10,000 crore for 3G and broadband spectrum, which will exhaust almost all of the cash reserves within the next two years.
>"The decision to procure 93 million lines of 2G/3G equipment was taken by BSNL Board in April, 2008 assuming that BSNL should aspire for a market share of about 30 per cent. However, in the 20 months that BSNL management has been dithering over this tender, the market share of BSNL has come down to about 12 per cent in mobile services. It was pointed out by me to the board that BSNL's ultimate market share may stabilise at about 6 to 8 per cent and consequently its requirement
> of additional capacity would be far less," Mr Deepak said in his letter.
>Mr Kuldeep Goyal, Chairman and Managing Director, BSNL was not available for comments
>
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>India's BSNL Inflating its Subscriber Base
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:36 am
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>India's Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) has been accused of over-inflating its mobile subscriber base, resulting in nearly a third of its existing network capacity remaining underused. The revelation comes just a few days after the company cancelled a huge tender to expand its existing GSM network capacity, which the company had claimed was vital to its future operations.
>The Government's nominee on BSNL's board, Mr J. S. Deepak said that BSNL required new capacity of only about 10 million lines and therefore the now-cancelled 93 million-line project would have been a waste of money.
>"An analysis of utilisation of existing GSM capacity shows about 28.73 per cent of BSNL capacity nationally is unutilised on account of maintaining non-existent pre-paid users on register to artificially inflate its subscribers.
>Earlier, BSNL retained these
> subscribers by providing a grace period of about 35 days for pre-paid customers who had not recharged their SIM cards. This has been increased to 180 days even though customers have not renewed their subscription, " Mr Deepak said in a note to the Department of Telecom (DoT), seen by The Hindu Business Line.
>He added that BSNL's losses this year are likely to be Rs 5,000 crore and in addition will be required to make a payment of about Rs 10,000 crore for 3G and broadband spectrum, which could exhaust almost all of the company's cash reserves within the next two years.
>Although its customer base has risen, he company has been losing market share to the private companies for several years. According to figures from The Mobile World, the operator ended last year with 62.8 million customers, representing a market share of around 12.5%.
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>Spectrum charge norms hurting us, says Vodafone
>Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
>Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:39 am
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>
>Thomas K Thomas
>New Delhi, March 9
>Vodafone has shot off another letter to the Government saying that the existing structure for collecting spectrum charge is hurting the company as the rules are heavily in favour of players with dual technology. The company has urged the Department of Telecom to introduce an equitable method of charging a fee for spectrum usage.
>Under the existing norms, operators pay between 3 per cent and 8 per cent of their annual revenues depending on the quantum of spectrum they hold. For example, Vodafone which holds 10 Mhs spectrum in Delhi has to pay five per cent of its revenues as spectrum charge. A dual technology player, with 5 Mhz of CDMA spectrum and 4.4 Mhz of GSM spectrum, pays three per cent separately for revenues earned from services running on each technology. According to Vodafone, this was unfair as the dual
> technology player is holding 9.4 Mhz spectrum but does not have to pay as much as the GSM operators have to.
>Cost differentiation
>"In the current competitive scenario, this cost differentiation is resulting in distinct cost and market advantage to one set of operators. This cost differentiation is now deeply hurting operators like us as it is tantamount to de facto subsidy being extended to one set of operators at our cost. The market and not policy or regulatory levers should decide the winners and losers," said a Vodafone letter to DoT. This is the second note being sent by the operator to DoT in the last two months.
>"It is most incorrect and unfair that, for one set of operators, spectrum is distinguished on the basis of technology and the lowest slab rates are applied separately for each technology whilst for the other set of operators, the charges are applied on an escalating basis for every additional tranche of spectrum," it
> added.
>Vodafone said that dual technology players were making much of the fact that they have paid an upfront fee of Rs 1,650 crore for their GSM licences. "It may be noted that Vodafone Essar paid an upfront fee of Rs 2,550 crore for all its licence areas – 55 per cent more than the dual technology operators paid for their GSM licences," Vodafone said.
>The telecom regulator is currently in the process of finalising its recommendations on 2G spectrum allocation. Earlier, the Subodh Kumar Committee, appointed by the DoT, had suggested imposing a uniform three per cent spectrum charge for all operators irrespective of the quantum of air waves held after charging an upfront fee. The committee had also suggested delinking the spectrum from licence, which if implemented could help DoT resolve the issue of pending applications which were denied licences in 2007 due to lack of spectrum.
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4. BSNL board has not approved VRS plan : Kuldeep Goyal
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:32 pm ((PST))
Erstwhile state monopoly BSNL's decline as a telecom service provider has few parallels in history. It slipped behind its fleet-footed private
Kuldeep Goyal, Chairman and Managing Director, BSNL
sector rivals to lose market share and revenues at an alarming speed. BSNL chairman and managing director Kuldeep Goyal is spearheading an effort to reverse the decline in fortunes by emulating private telcos. The company is set to dump its equipment procurement process to adopt the ‘managed capacity’ model where network is outsourced to vendors, which constantly changes network configuration to meet capacity requirements. Mr Goyal explains in detail how he will script a turnaround for BSNL, which is expected to post the first annual loss in its history, in an exclusive interaction. Excerpts:
Now that BSNL’s board has cancelled its controversial 93-million lines tender, what is the way forward?
We are changing our procurement strategy completely. We are looking at a ‘managed capacity’ model and this will be based on the traffic which is measured on a per Erlang basis. Our future orders for equipment will no longer be based on number of GSM lines. The new strategy will see us work out our mobile network capacity requirements on a quarterly basis and vendors will be given contracts to install this. This is the model being followed by private operators. We are now studying how companies like Airtel are executing it.
Will the new model do away with all the controversies associated with BSNL tenders?
Now, vendors will design our network â€" first they will study our networks, find out which of the clusters have capacity constraints and then identify the equipment that is required to be added. So, if there is surplus equipment in a cluster, they would like to roll it over to another area. For the first time, designing, planning, implementation of our mobile networks will be done by the vendor. Right now, our employees do all these functions. So far, we were giving blanket orders to install certain number of lines at a particular location/town â€" here what happens is that in some places, the capacity gets used up faster than our estimates and we then have constraints. On the other hand, in other places, the growth in mobile connections may be lower than our calculations, leaving us with surplus capacity. We were giving orders for say a 12-month period, and could not make changes in between. In a managed capacity model, capacity is added or
reduced every quarter.
How will your new tenders be? How will you address your equipment needs during this period? There is a lot of speculation that BSNL has already run out of mobile capacity in most parts of the country. Also, even if you have spare capacity now, will it not run out by the time you implement the new model?
Yes, the new tenders will no longer be about lines. Once we study this model and understand it, we will float RFPs for equipment purchase under the managed capacity model. Currently, we have a capacity of around 20 million GSM lines which are under installation in the South zone. These lines are being provided by Huawei, while in the West, they are being supplied by Alcatel Lucent. There is also come capacity left in the North and East zones. We have 8.5 million free lines in the South, 7.7 million in the West and 1.5 million each in the North and East. We have some some margins in our existing orders that we have placed with these vendors and therefore may be able to place additional orders with them. In the west and south zones, we will not require additional capacity for the next one year. In the North and East, we will require additional capacity within the next six months and we are considering several options to meet it. We are yet to decide if we
want to place additional orders under phase V of our 2007 tenders.
The government has banned you from procuring equipment from Chinese firms in most regions of the country. Does this impact BSNL?
I cannot comment on government decisions, but if any rules are there they should be common for all the operators. They cannot be applicable only to state-owned companies as that does not serve the purpose. If security is a concern, it should be for all the networks of all operators.
Your financials have been falling rapidly. The Prime Minister’s Office as well as the Department of Telecom have expressed concerns over this.
BSNL is not making losses. Even in the last fiscal, we had profits of around Rs 575 crore. This year, we are going to take a massive hit of around Rs 4,800 crore because of a salary revision. This salary revision is effective from 2007. These arrears have to be paid in the current fiscal. We have already disbursed around Rs 1,000 crore as of last year, so there will be an additional liability of Rs 3,800 crore this fiscal. This year’s financials will, therefore, be impacted. In the next year, the situation will improve. This is a temporary phase. In the case of mobile revenues, BSNL is doing better than private operators. The mobile revenues for the industry have come down by 5-6% in the current fiscal in the quarter ending June 2009, industry revenues were down by 4.55% while in the quarter ended September it was down by 1 %. But our revenues from mobile services have not fallen. Overall revenues have fallen because of our wireline revenues.
Is it possible that for the first time, BSNL will register losses this fiscal?
This year, that is a possibility. This is because of this new liability of having to pay three-year salary arrears due to the revision.
Was the board pressurised into accepting Pitroda panel report?
There was no pressure on us. The board has given its views on this report to the government and has asked it to take a final call on it. Most recommendations of this panel are related to the growth of the company and the board has no objections to it. While the Pirtoda panel recommended a 30% divestment, the board has only said that it is okay with a stake sale. We have not said that 30% should be sold, but rather have asked the government to work out the exact quantum. On the issue of VRS, the BSNL board is of the view that 60,000 people will retire in the next five years. So, the headcount will come down by this number within a five-year period. Let me also clarify, the board has not approved any move to offer VRS to 100,000 employees. The BSNL board also agrees with the Pitroda committee report that private talent be brought in and marked linked salaries be offered to these executives.
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5a. Re: Wage revision approved
Posted by: "Rajkumar sengodan" ece.rajkumar@yahoo.com ece.rajkumar
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:33 pm ((PST))
hi fnds
Anybody knows about the new scale for those joined on 2008, please give some info
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Subject: [TTABSNL] Wage revision approved
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Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:09 PM
Hi Friends,
BSNL BOARD has appoved wage revision of non executives, today on dated 10-03-2010.
Gaurav Kumar Singh
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6. with whom we have to fight Kargil War Sh. Raj thackeray of bsnl (sh
Posted by: "surinder kumar" surinder_er@yahoo.com surinder_er
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:37 pm ((PST))
Mr. secretary I am really thankful for your concern for asking our deposit to chq. But as you r saying that we had submitted the money. But have u Asked the date we had submitted first. I tell u its 28 feb. the day till that date no initiation has been taken from your end about collection my friend so as much to our knowledge we had submitted the amount and after talking to you we came to know that only the people who are ineligible are submitting money so we have to do it only so we doubled it. And I had already conveyed my message to Mr. President that if there will be shortage of any kind of money in chq case we jalandhar people will submit the amount u say. But tell me one thing Mr. Secretary that who told you that Jalandhar is short of money . Sir we (Jalandhar people) can do the similar case alone and you know this very well. But in favor of snatta we initiated the work but then you are awakened and you started the argument like we are
slave to you. Sir as you says Lice as Kargil War . I am very shocked to know that you don't know in war nobody pays money to fight it just happen and you have to take it. And for our new friends only the wearer knows where the shoe pinches. Brother I had mailed the whole detail of submission to chq.
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Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:38 pm ((PST))
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8a. FINAL LIST OF INELIGIBLE MEMBERS FROM PUNJAB.
Posted by: "Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab" circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:41 pm ((PST))
DEAR MEMBERS,
KINDLY CHECK YOUR DETAILS IN THE LIST , IF ANY
MISTAKE THEN INFORM ME FOR MODIFICATION.
WITH REGARDS,
HAKAM SINGH,
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8b. Re: FINAL LIST OF INELIGIBLE MEMBERS FROM PUNJAB.
Posted by: "BP Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:03 am ((PDT))
hi,
You have missed the heart of Punjab, The City Beautiful Chandigarh.
i have submitted the list to yahoo group, DS and You already.
on behalf of all ineligible Candidates of Chandigarh, i again request you to
include the same urgently. Pls keep your personal enmity and differences
aside to show your True Color.
*Our President Manish Samadhiya and GS Dharmendra Verma are specially
requested to look into the matter.*
List is again attached for your reference.
thanks& regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh
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> DEAR MEMBERS,
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> KINDLY CHECK YOUR DETAILS IN THE LIST , IF ANY
> MISTAKE THEN INFORM ME FOR MODIFICATION.
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> WITH REGARDS,
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> HAKAM SINGH,
> CS-SNATTA-PB,
> 09417277177.
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