Friday, November 20, 2009

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1595[9 Attachments]

There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
From: mukesh vaghela
1b. Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
From: Manish Solanki
1c. Re: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
From: V.K.Anand
1d. Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
From: Pratyush Pathak

2a. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
From: Srinivas Vanga
2b. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
From: prabhu boopalan
2c. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
From: NITIN

3a. Re: You are lucky...!!
From: jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in
3b. Re: You are lucky...!!
From: bsnl_chd

4. Raja asks telcos to cut SMS charges
From: G S Rajawat

5. The Real Tree Man of Java...... Yes a Tree Man..!!
From: BP Singh

6. Arrear Calculations for All Non Executives
From: Tanveer Khan

7a. Fw: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
From: mukesh vaghela
7b. Dear Manish and Mukesh: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bs
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA

8a. Major Achievement on Wage Revision
From: Sukhwinder singh

9. Fw: Re: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revis
From: mukesh vaghela

10. Urgent Query on JTO LICE Eligibility Conditions
From: shahulhameed noorulameen


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:42 am ((PST))

Dear Vikasji
 
I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .
 
our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.
 
as you was part of commit tie and our  leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.
 
thank you
 
 


Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj.org
http://bsnlinnewsworld.blogspot.com


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM


Dear Kalyan,
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
And what we got?
No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.

we should be brave enough to admit our failures and  follies.
We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.

And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups?whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.

And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember,we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.

If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


visit me at:http://bikesandgadgets.wordpress.com/

From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


hi friends
vikas may be right
but he needs to explain further more
 
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
 
and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
before commenting on bsnleu
atleast till next verefication
 
as in a family, 
bsnleu is our "father" and 
snnatta is a younger "son"
 
 
 
 


 
S kalyankar
tta,ndl
+91-9000234484
+91-9491415445

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM


 

This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.


Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM


 

U R Right Mr. Gupta
I totally agree with u.
 
Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
MAHESH SONI

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM


 


Friends,
The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/

From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


Major Achievement on Wage Revision

 

 

In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:

 

1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA

 

2.    ivNo periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.

 
3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.
 
4.    3% annual increment
 
A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.

With Regards:-
G S Rajawat

B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell:  +91-9413424883 
gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in


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Messages in this topic (4)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
Posted by: "Manish Solanki" manishsolanki3@yahoo.com manishsolanki3
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:44 am ((PST))

dear vikas jee and who not belive in chq team...
i am so happy that we all got  the most awaited news about 6 pay comminsion 30% rise of pay and other 3% increment and no periodicity .and  at par with executive...
so dear now my two points ..
we must congratulate VAN Namboodiri and all his team (including you ...because you are the first ever member TTA in for wage committee)...and many our chq leader also in his team..only because of his support we can know all this things(NEWS REAL WITH A MEMBER) and we can also stand in fornt of manangement ,,,so we can know all internal matter and truth.
In my ssa and circle  i have post direct news to my TTA from  DR TTA Hakam sing...so its just support of BSNLEU...(not favourar it but path to get news)
so still we have to go more step with him...(as recognise union LDCE Exam)..

dear here just to info...we get got possition in NCM also.
manish.VP SNATTA GUJ.


________________________________
From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com>
To: tta tta <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:56:38 PM
Subject: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 
Dear Vikasji

I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .

our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.

as you was part of commit tie and our  leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.

thank you
 


________________________________
Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela
Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj. org
http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com
________________________________


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


>From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
>Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>Dear Kalyan,
>"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
>I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
>On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
>And what we got?
>No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.
>
>we should be brave enough to admit our failures and  follies.
>We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.
>
>And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups? whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
>Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.
>
>And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember, we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.
>
>If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?
>
>
>


>Vikas Kumar Gupta
>TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
>9431100511
>
>
>visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>

>hi friends
>vikas may be right
>but he needs to explain further more

>"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"

>and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
>before commenting on bsnleu
>atleast till next verefication

>as in a family, 
>bsnleu is our "father" and 
>snnatta is a younger "son"




>
>

>S kalyankar
>tta,ndl
>+91-9000234484
>+91-9491415445
>
>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM
>>
>>
>> 
>>This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.
>>
>>
>>Er. Sandip Solanki
>>C.C., SNATTA,
>>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>>09429244440
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>U R Right Mr. Gupta
>>>I totally agree with u.
>>>
>>>Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
>>>MAHESH SONI
>>>
>>>--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>>Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Friends,
>>>>The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
>>>>Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>Vikas Kumar Gupta
>>>>TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
>>>>9431100511
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
________________________________
From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
>>>>To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>>>>Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
>>>>Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Major Achievement on Wage Revision
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:
>>>> 
>>>>1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA
>>>> 
>>>>2.    ivNo periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.
>>>> 
>>>>3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.
>>>> 
>>>>4.    3% annual increment
>>>> 
>>>>A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>With Regards:-
>>>>G S Rajawat
>>>>B S N L
>>>>Tonk, Rajasthan
>>>>Cell:  +91-9413424883 
>>>>gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in
>>>>________________________________
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>>________________________________
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>
>>>________________________________
Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now!
>>________________________________
Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here.
>>________________________________
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>
>>
>
>


Messages in this topic (4)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
Posted by: "V.K.Anand" vkanand810@yahoo.com vkanand810
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:18 pm ((PST))

Dear Er. Mukesh Vaghela ,
 
Hope you must be fine. You are right that all of us should stand united and support SNATTA leaders and I am sure no body is questioning that. We all the circumstances in which we decided to support BSNLU... Situation has not changed much. But discussion and evaluation should continue. As far as new friends are concerns :- I feel they are mature, Educated ad at par with US. Thats why management has decided to  give them same TTA designation as us and not Jr. TTA. SO it will be nice and sweet to treat them as equal and not as juniors. Let them read and find out for themselves. If they want they can always consult someone for clarification.
 
Do not bother tooooo much .. relax .. and let everybody learn, read, and post ..
Thaks/regards
 
V.K.Anand
TTA (Installation) Ranchi
0651-2273711/611
 

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: "tta tta" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 6:26 AM


 


Dear Vikasji
 
I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .
 
our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.
 
as you was part of commit tie and our  leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.
 
thank you
 
 


Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj. org
http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM


Dear Kalyan,
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
And what we got?
No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.

we should be brave enough to admit our failures and  follies.
We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.

And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups? whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.

And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember, we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.

If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/

From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


hi friends
vikas may be right
but he needs to explain further more
 
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
 
and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
before commenting on bsnleu
atleast till next verefication
 
as in a family, 
bsnleu is our "father" and 
snnatta is a younger "son"
 
 
 
 


 
S kalyankar
tta,ndl
+91-9000234484
+91-9491415445

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM


 

This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.


Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM


 

U R Right Mr. Gupta
I totally agree with u.
 
Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
MAHESH SONI

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM


 


Friends,
The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/

From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


Major Achievement on Wage Revision


 


 


In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:


 


1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA


 


2.    ivNo periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.


 


3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.

 

4.    3% annual increment


 

A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.


With Regards:-
G S Rajawat

B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell:  +91-9413424883 
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1d. Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
Posted by: "Pratyush Pathak" pathak_bsnl@yahoo.com pathak_bsnl
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:35 am ((PST))

dear comrades,
This is a forum to discuss new innovative ideas for DRTTA,s and nice to see the views of some TTA's.
someone has written " who not believe in CHQ" shows the unity and dignity of the member.There is no question in not believing in CHQ . VK anand and Vikash have written what the truth lies between this wage agreement. We the TTa's have made BSNLEU recognised with our votes and efforts and we at SSA lavel have to define the staffs about this said MAJOR Achievement. The CHQ team has to define us the meaning of major in the context of wage agreement.


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2a. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "Srinivas Vanga" srinivanga@yahoo.com srinivasvng
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:41 am ((PST))


dear Nitin Pohare
greate effort, but also consider HRA from 27-02-2009
Regards
Srinivas Vanga

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, nitin pohare <nitin_pohare@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: nitin pohare <nitin_pohare@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:52 PM


 


[Attachment(s) from nitin pohare included below]


Dear Shailesh
I did attempted one i will upload it for you....
Evaluate it if any mistake found please convey that to me.
Attachments- -> IDA Arear Calculator
 
With regards...
Nitin Pohare (Nasik MH)
(9422279640)

From: shailesh jain <jain_shailesh77@ yahoo.co. in>
To: tta group <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 8:46:34 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] upload arrear calculator

 

do any one have arrear calculator please update.

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2b. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "prabhu boopalan" prabhu_bsnl@yahoo.com prabhu_bsnl
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:46 pm ((PST))

you have not include HRA for arear calculation since the HRA is depend on Basic pay
arear should be given given for HRA also

For ex

Basic            HRA
8000               400           for 5%
18000             900           for 5%

and the HRA have changed from Feb'09
it should also be inclued

M.B.Prabhakaran
TTA Extl
Dharmapuri

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From: nitin pohare <nitin_pohare@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 2:52 PM

 





[Attachment(s) from nitin pohare included below]


Dear Shailesh
I did attempted one i will upload it for you....
Evaluate it if any mistake found please convey that to me.
Attachments- -> IDA Arear Calculator
 
With regards...
Nitin Pohare (Nasik MH)
(9422279640)

From: shailesh jain <jain_shailesh77@ yahoo.co. in>
To: tta group <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 8:46:34 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] upload arrear calculator

 

do any one have arrear calculator please update.

shailesh

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2c. Re: upload arrear calculator [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "NITIN" nitin_pohare@yahoo.com nitin_pohare
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:35 am ((PST))

Dear Friends
I would like to acknowledge all of you for updating me.
I did corrected the same and i needed the exact month from which
the HRA is effective.
Kindly update if any one have..

Thank You

With Regards...
Nitin Pohare (Nashik MH)
(9422279640)


--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, prabhu boopalan <prabhu_bsnl@...> wrote:
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> 18000             900           for 5%
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> Dharmapuri
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3a. Re: You are lucky...!!
Posted by: "jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in" jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in jaiprakashsinghtta
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:23 am ((PST))

DEAR BP SINGH
Bhagyabadi desh mein log aur kya kah saktein hain. This is in our blood LOG VYAKTI KE PARISHRAM KA MITTI PALID KAR DETEIN HAIN by telling you are lucky. In other ways we are taught to belive in luck do not try, it will happen what is already there in your destiny.Man is surprised. Am I a fool? I was working so hard by day and night, what was use of that if it was in my luck to achieve.And the man gets irritated if he is sensuous.
Thank you THODI ADHAYATAM KI BHI BAT HO GAI.
JAI PRAKASH SINGH
TTA OFC MANSA/BHATINDA
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3b. Re: You are lucky...!!
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:03 am ((PST))


hi,,

if dsl is stable and you are not able to do net (neither in pppoe nor bridge mode), then problem could be any of the following:-

1. DSL port of the line is faulty. Needs to be reset from local NIB.

2. Port Binding Issue. Pls Chk net at MDF.

3. Attenuation is too high (> 45) or SNR (< 10) is too Low, the link will fail randomly. Pls chk net at MDF and if its ok there then change/check subscriber's LINE, Pair, DP, Splitter, Jumper, Punch the all points.

4. Reset modem and configure fresh else Pls change modem.


regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer,
BSNL, Mohali.


--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, dinesh garg <dinesh4uynr@...> wrote:
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> hello sir
> i want some solution on broadband problem?
> problem is that DSL is always stable but bsnl link failed every time.
> pls give the best solution.
>
>
> With regards
> DINESH KUMAR
> BSNL
> Mob.9416428777
> E-mail: dinesh4uynr@...
>
> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, BP Singh <email13@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: BP Singh <email13@...>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] You are lucky...!!
> To: "bandhan-preet-singh" <Bandhan-Preet-Singh@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:49 AM
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> hope you like translation of below lines....
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> उसने सारा दिन काम किया
> he worked through out day
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> à¤"र सारी रात काम किया
> he worked through out day
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> उसने खेलना छà¥&lsqauo;डा
> he stopped playing games
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> and stopped doing fun
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> उसने ज्ञान के ग्रन्थ पढ़े
> he read lots of knowledgeable books
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> à¤"र नयी बातें सीखीं
> and learned new things
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> वह आगे बढता गया
> he continued his efforts
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> पाने के लिए सफलता ज़रा सी
> to achieve a bit of success
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> दिल में विश्वास à¤"र हिम्मत लिए
> having faith and courage
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> he marched forward
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> and when finally he achieved his goal
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> people said YOU ARE LUCKY.
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> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer,
> BSNL, Mohali.
> --
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4. Raja asks telcos to cut SMS charges
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:53 am ((PST))

Raja asks telcos to cut SMS charges
19 Nov 2009, 2252 hrs IST, PTI
NEW DELHI: Telecom Minister A Raja on Thursday asked mobile operators to cut SMS charges on the lines of one paisa per second tariff for voice calls
"Increasing competition from new players and adoption of better technology have led to reduction in call charges significantly, and I feel the same can happen in case of SMS tariff also," Raja said at a function to celebrate 500 million telecom subscriber base.

Now the mobile call tariff have come down to as low as 1 one paisa per second and in some cases even half-a-paisa per second, the minister said, adding operators now must focus on a similar telecom revolution in the rural areas

With Regards:-
G S Rajawat

B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell:  +91-9413424883 
gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in


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5. The Real Tree Man of Java...... Yes a Tree Man..!!
Posted by: "BP Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:21 am ((PST))

Dede Koswara dubbed the Tree Man is back after nine months of operations to
remove the woody growth from his body. He was once sacked from his job,
deserted by his wife and shunned by his neighbors - treated like a freak
becaused of his gnarled growths sprouting from his hands and feet. The warts
on Dede's body was the cause of a severe Human Papilloma Virus infection.

The 37 year old man's life quality has improved where he now can use his
hand write and use the cell phone. Dede still has to go through more
surgeryin October after the fasting month to trim more warts and was
given strong
course of medicine including vitamin A in an attempt to prevent the return
of the growth.
Dede Koswara, 37, who is also known as 'The Tree Man of Java' had underwent
four major operations that hacked away the bark like tissue sprouting from
his hands and feet. Dede was able to see the outline of his toes for the
first time as medics removed more than 4lbs of warts from his body. Spending
his last 20 years (his ordeal started when he was 15 and cut his knee where
a small wart developed and spread) with the bizarre condition, Dede
expressed that he wants to get better and find a job and hopes that one day
he will meet a girl and get married.

Now Download the attached files and see the man.
--
NAGINDER SINGH VASHIST,
ADVOCATE

regards,
bandhan

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6. Arrear Calculations for All Non Executives
Posted by: "Tanveer Khan" tmakhan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in tmakhan_bsnl
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:43 pm ((PST))

Dear
SNATins this calculator is prepared on common database please ensure the correctness of the calculation by getting checked from competent authority.For any promotion in this period appropriate changes to be made manually for getting the correct figures
 
Vijay Pandey &
Tanveer M.A. Khan
SNATTA Banswara
Rajsthan


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7a. Fw: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:45 pm ((PST))


yes manish bhai you r right and you well know that i m always with you because myself and all Gujarat snatta member know that you always think about unity of snatta and welfare of snatta member. and so that we should always support the chq team in any condition and dont critics them anyhow condition. that is unity not post mail in yahoo groups to show all other person that he or she is more smart more then chq team
 
keep it up man
 
regards.

 
 
 


Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
Er. STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj.org
http://bsnlinnewsworld.blogspot.com


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Manish Solanki <manishsolanki3@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Manish Solanki <manishsolanki3@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 10:09 PM


dear vikas jee and who not belive in chq team...
i am so happy that we all got  the most awaited news about 6 pay comminsion 30% rise of pay and other 3% increment and no periodicity .and  at par with executive...
so dear now my two points ..
we must congratulate VAN Namboodiri and all his team (including you ...because you are the first ever member TTA in for wage committee)...and many our chq leader also in his team..only because of his support we can know all this things(NEWS REAL WITH A MEMBER) and we can also stand in fornt of manangement ,,,so we can know all internal matter and truth.
In my ssa and circle  i have post direct news to my TTA from  DR TTA Hakam sing...so its just support of BSNLEU...(not favourar it but path to get news)
so still we have to go more step with him...(as recognise union LDCE Exam)..
 
dear here just to info...we get got possition in NCM also.
manish.VP SNATTA GUJ.
 


From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com>
To: tta tta <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:56:38 PM
Subject: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


Dear Vikasji
 
I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .
 
our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.
 
as you was part of commit tie and our  leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.
 
thank you
 
 


Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj. org
http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM


Dear Kalyan,
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
And what we got?
No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.

we should be brave enough to admit our failures and  follies.
We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.

And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups? whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.

And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember, we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.

If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


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From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


hi friends
vikas may be right
but he needs to explain further more
 
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
 
and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
before commenting on bsnleu
atleast till next verefication
 
as in a family, 
bsnleu is our "father" and 
snnatta is a younger "son"
 
 
 
 


 
S kalyankar
tta,ndl
+91-9000234484
+91-9491415445

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM


 

This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.


Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM


 

U R Right Mr. Gupta
I totally agree with u.
 
Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
MAHESH SONI

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM


 


Friends,
The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


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From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


Major Achievement on Wage Revision


 


 


In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:


 


1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA


 


2.    ivNo periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.


 


3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.

 

4.    3% annual increment


 

A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.


With Regards:-
G S Rajawat

B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell:  +91-9413424883 
gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in


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7b. Dear Manish and Mukesh: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bs
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:35 am ((PST))

guys,
From where the hell" CHQ "appeared in this debate?please read my previuos mails,did I criticized CHQ or any of its decision,I have always demanded a healthy debate,nothing more?I had criticized Namboodiri,have yu guys added Com Namboodiri in the SNATTAs CHQ Team as well.Father and son sort of thing.
Actually you guys are diverting the flow of debate into "with CHQ and against CHQ" which was originally different totally,I had criticised Er Manish Solanki because he was getting bullish with the fellow TTAs in the yahoogroup .I said that you are free to give your view but do not jump to any conclusion or pass judgment,and let others decide what is good for them.Do not censor the messages.
Dear Mukesh ,CHQ is as smart as the team behind it which is its real strength.They are not aliens from other planet but TTAs like me and you who have to learn with every mistakes.




Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511

visit me at:http://bikesandgadgets.wordpress.com/

________________________________
From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com>
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 20 November, 2009 1:07:14 PM
Subject: Fw: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bsnleu

yes manish bhai you r right and you well know that i m always with you because myself and all Gujarat snatta member know that you always think about unity of snatta and welfare of snatta member. and so that we should always support the chq team in any condition and dont critics them anyhow condition. that is unity not post mail in yahoo groups to show all other person that he or she is more smart more then chq team

keep it up man

regards.



________________________________
Mukesh G. Vaghela
Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT
Er. STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj. org
http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com
________________________________

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Manish Solanki <manishsolanki3@ yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: Manish Solanki <manishsolanki3@ yahoo.com>
>Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: good support for any news...bsnleu
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 10:09 PM
>
>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>dear vikas jee and who not belive in chq team...
>i am so happy that we all got the most awaited news about 6 pay comminsion 30% rise of pay and other 3% increment and no periodicity .and at par with executive...
>so dear now my two points ..
>we must congratulate VAN Namboodiri and all his team (including you ...because you are the first ever member TTA in for wage committee).. .and many our chq leader also in his team..only because of his support we can know all this things(NEWS REAL WITH A MEMBER) and we can also stand in fornt of manangement ,,,so we can know all internal matter and truth.
>In my ssa and circle i have post direct news to my TTA from DR TTA Hakam sing...so its just support of BSNLEU...(not favourar it but path to get news)
>so still we have to go more step with him...(as recognise union LDCE Exam)..
>
>dear here just to info...we get got possition in NCM also.
>manish.VP SNATTA GUJ.
>
>
________________________________
From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@ yahoo.com>
>To: tta tta <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
>Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:56:38 PM
>Subject: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>
>
>Dear Vikasji
>
>I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .
>
>our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.
>
>as you was part of commit tie and our leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.
>
>thank you
>
>
>
________________________________
Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela
>Circle President
>SNATTA GUJARAT
>STM16 RAJKOT
>Mob.:- 9428346111
>http://snattaguj. org
>http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com
________________________________
>
>
>--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
>>Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Kalyan,
>>"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
>>I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
>>On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
>>And what we got?
>>No periodicity will be mentioned.
>> Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.
>>
>>we should be brave enough to admit our failures and follies.
>>We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.
>>
>>And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups? whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
>>Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.
>>
>>And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember, we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.
>>
>>If we cant comments upon
>> Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Vikas Kumar Gupta
>>TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
>>9431100511
>>
>>
>>visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>
>>
>>hi friends
>>vikas may be right
>>but he needs to explain further more
>>
>>"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
>>
>>and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
>>before commenting on bsnleu
>>atleast till next verefication
>>
>>as in a family,
>>bsnleu is our "father" and
>>snnatta is a younger "son"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>S kalyankar
>>tta,ndl
>>+91-9000234484
>>+91-9491415445
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.
>>>
>>>
>>>Er. Sandip Solanki
>>>C.C., SNATTA,
>>>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>>>09429244440
>>>
>>>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>U R Right Mr. Gupta
>>>>I totally agree with u.
>>>>
>>>>Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
>>>>MAHESH SONI
>>>>
>>>>--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>>>Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Friends,
>>>>>The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
>>>>>Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more
>>>>> time I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vikas Kumar Gupta
>>>>>TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
>>>>>9431100511
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
________________________________
From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
>>>>>To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>>>>>Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Major Achievement on Wage Revision
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. 30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA
>>>>>
>>>>>2. ivNo periodicity will be mentioned. Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.
>>>>>
>>>>>3. Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.
>>>>>
>>>>>4. 3% annual increment
>>>>>
>>>>>A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>With Regards:-
>>>>>G S Rajawat
>>>>>B S N L
>>>>>Tonk, Rajasthan
>>>>>Cell: +91-9413424883
>>>>>gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now!
>>>________________________________
>>>Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here.
>>>
>>>________________________________
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
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8a. Major Achievement on Wage Revision
Posted by: "Sukhwinder singh" glaizy4u@yahoo.com glaizy4u
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:45 pm ((PST))

Dear Friends...

The "MAJOR ACHIEVEMENT" declartion is totally infuriating and whatever accepted by union has nothing new..  "The major achievement" sentence makes me restless...In a nutshell Namboodiri and company had wasted the time and still they are doing the same till next verification because they want full benefit of wage negotiation.its an eminent politics and we must have to aware from this. ... its famous dictum that "Time is Money". We even loose so much money in this delay and our percious time, in which we can raised so many matters and tried to sort those.....

Its unbelivable that some superstitious persons are still favouring, Mr. Namboodiri and company regarding "MAJOR ACHIEVEMENT". We must have to know that we are not the hard part of any NFTE or BSNLEU. We have no Father/son relationship. We are politically attached with him. We gave 100% support to him and for it he made verious promises. Till now he couldn't fullfill any promise... Remember it! Wage Nagotiation is his duty and whatever others will be get, same will be for us.But Whatever he promised, is till now beyond the reach....
 
Er. Sukhwinder Singh


 


________________________________
From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 6:29:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 
Hi There,

Totally agree you point of view !!!!

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@ yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@ yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:41 AM
>
>

>dear comrade kalyankar,
>                      don't canvas to any union because the slogan of SNATTA is " We are neither soldier of NFTE nor soldier of BSNLEU " so don´t talk like we are son , father of any union. And don´t prove other unions thought, already NFTE peoples said that "SNATTA is a branch of BSNLEU" and we people said that we are not union we are not soldier to anybody except TTAs.
>Regarding wage negotiation  the management in the first meeting itself said that It will ready to give as much executives got.

>S.P.A.GOPALAN
>TTA/ TIRUVARUR / TNJ SSA / TAMILNADU.
>9443475566

>--- On Wed, 11/18/09, kishor patel <kishor_ahwa@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
>
>
>>From: kishor patel <kishor_ahwa@ yahoo.co. in>
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 9:01 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi!
>>Friends,
>>I think the major achievement by Mr.Namboodiri & Co.is 30% fitment benifit for all i.e. for non technical cader also.Instead of getting less than 30% fitment, now they will be benifited equally as technical cader.So,that is the major achievement! !!!!!!!!! !!!!! 
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>
>> 
>>hi friends
>>vikas may be right
>>but he needs to explain further more
>> 
>>"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
>> 
>>and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
>>before commenting on bsnleu
>>atleast till next verefication
>> 
>>as in a family, 
>>bsnleu is our "father" and 
>>snnatta is a younger "son"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>S kalyankar
>>tta,ndl
>>+91-9000234484
>>+91-9491415445
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.
>>>
>>>
>>>Er. Sandip Solanki
>>>C.C., SNATTA,
>>>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>>>09429244440
>>>
>>>--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>>Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>U R Right Mr. Gupta
>>>>I totally agree with u.
>>>>
>>>>Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
>>>>MAHESH SONI
>>>>
>>>>--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>>>Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>Friends,
>>>>>The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
>>>>>Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>Vikas Kumar Gupta
>>>>>TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
>>>>>9431100511
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
________________________________
From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
>>>>>To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>>>>>Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>Major Achievement on Wage Revision
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:
>>>>> 
>>>>>1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA
>>>>> 
>>>>>2.    No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.
>>>>> 
>>>>>3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.
>>>>> 
>>>>>4.    3% annual increment
>>>>> 
>>>>>A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>With Regards:-
>>>>>G S Rajawat
>>>>>B S N L
>>>>>Tonk, Rajasthan
>>>>>Cell:  +91-9413424883 
>>>>>gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in
>>>>>________________________________
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>>>________________________________
The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now!
>>>________________________________
Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here.
>>________________________________
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>>
>>
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>
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9. Fw: Re: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revis
Posted by: "mukesh vaghela" mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com mukeshgvaghela
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:04 am ((PST))

yes anand bhai
you r right and one thing i always treat new tta as younger  brother and sister of us that all Gujarat tta very well known and i know that they are more intelligent to us also but i think guidance should be positive and it will be more effective if guide to personally not by message
this is my view it will be differ from man to man also.
 
regards

 
 
 


Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
Er. STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj.org
http://bsnlinnewsworld.blogspot.com


--- On Fri, 11/20/09, V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: V.K.Anand <vkanand810@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:49 AM

Dear Er. Mukesh Vaghela ,
 
Hope you must be fine. You are right that all of us should stand united and support SNATTA leaders and I am sure no body is questioning that. We all the circumstances in which we decided to support BSNLU... Situation has not changed much. But discussion and evaluation should continue. As far as new friends are concerns :- I feel they are mature, Educated ad at par with US. Thats why management has decided to  give them same TTA designation as us and not Jr. TTA. SO it will be nice and sweet to treat them as equal and not as juniors. Let them read and find out for themselves. If they want they can always consult someone for clarification.
 
Do not bother tooooo much .. relax .. and let everybody learn, read, and post ..
Thaks/regards
 
V.K.Anand
TTA (Installation) Ranchi
0651-2273711/611
 

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: mukesh vaghela <mukeshgvaghela@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: "tta tta" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 6:26 AM


 


Dear Vikasji
 
I don't want to reply this mail but after read your lase sentence "If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?" .
 
our new brother and sister (tta 2009 batch) don't know the all thing then they all will come in running train (for critics on nambudri) because we all know how chq leader solve all our related problem with the help of recognized union ( i agree your point of view that this time bsnleu another time might be another union but at this time is bsnleu so we have to compromise with them we have no choice dear)and the bottom of this pyramid is all the member of snatta so everyone give the support to chq body then only they work.so, for that matter we have to keep in control at this stage.
 
as you was part of commit tie and our  leader also, this is a suggestion only i m not critics you.
 
thank you
 
 


Er. Mukesh G. Vaghela

Circle President
SNATTA GUJARAT  
STM16 RAJKOT
Mob.:- 9428346111
http://snattaguj. org
http://bsnlinnewswo rld.blogspot. com


--- On Thu, 11/19/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: for kalyan kar [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:15 PM


Dear Kalyan,
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
I can say this because I had a previelage to be a part of the wage comm meetings.I had given a good long commentary on the meeting I had attended but you seem to forget all.
On 3rd March itself Mr R K BATRA had propsed that the recognised union can sign on the agreement right away,at par with executives,But GS BSNEU insisted that the periodicity should be 5 instead of 10 years,upon which the managment had said that they were ready to write next wage revision simultaneously with executives,in the successive meetings but Nmaboodiri was adamant on his demands.
And what we got?
No periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executives.

we should be brave enough to admit our failures and  follies.
We should not hide our head in sand like Ostrich on seeing the enemy.

And where to discuss all the issues other than Yahoogroups? whether it relates to BSNLEU or any other topic.
Yes I can call you or for that matter anyone one because everyone has a phone line,but that would remain between us only So instead of one to one communication we should encourage many to many communication.

And its dirty politics and trade union politics is no different so No FATHER NO SON relation ship exist not for me atleast ,just OPPURTUNISM.Select the winning horse,this time it was BSNLEU,it may be NFTE or FNTO or BSNLEU again.We were kingmakers once,remember, we can be again next time also,let THEM(BSNLEU) not forget this,so always assert what we all can do.

If we cant  comments upon Namboodiri in this forum then where my dear?


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


visit me at:http://bikesandgadg ets.wordpress. com/

From: kalyan kar <kalyan_7fru@ yahoo.co. in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, 19 November, 2009 7:27:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


hi friends
vikas may be right
but he needs to explain further more
 
"The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters"
 
and i guess we need to refrain ourselves
before commenting on bsnleu
atleast till next verefication
 
as in a family, 
bsnleu is our "father" and 
snnatta is a younger "son"
 
 
 
 


 
S kalyankar
tta,ndl
+91-9000234484
+91-9491415445

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 4:56 PM


 

This Topic is useless. Again some are passing there time with these things. Don't judge any union ( Atleast not before next Verification ). Collect the points with you and let them discussed at the time of next Verification.


Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MAHESH <mjs13_2@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:15 PM


 

U R Right Mr. Gupta
I totally agree with u.
 
Now I think we have to still wait upto aug-2010 for actual implementation of new wage revision because of all formalities like approval from Finance wing, approval from DOT, and finally approval from Ministry Of Communication
MAHESH SONI

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:09 AM


 


Friends,
The recognized union may be presenting this as their major achievement, but we all know very well that there is nothing new in this.The management had offered this thing in the very first meeting itself but Namboodiri and company kept dragging their meet at the will of their political masters.If this was to agreed for then why make so much fuss,hue and cry,strike,two day salary cut etc,one may well ask Namboodiri.This is actually a face saver for them.
Any way we should maintain a calm and refrain from sending abusive SMSs or mails to Namboodiri at this stage,Becuase one of the major issue ,ie pay upgradation of TTAs and also the Promotional scale is to be discussed tom-morrow.So hold your anger for the time being and wait for tom-morrows meeting outcome before bursting.We have to carry on with the lame horse for some more time I think.


 
 
 
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511


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From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
To: TTA BSNL <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 8:45:00 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] Major Achievement on Wage Revisio

 


Major Achievement on Wage Revision


 


 


In the meeting of wage negotiation held today, 17th November 2009 , the following understanding has been reached:


 


1.    30% fitment on pay + 68.8% IDA


 


2.    ivNo periodicity will be mentioned.  Next wage revision for non-executives will be along with executes.


 


3.    Increase of fitment on 68.8% to 78.2% IDA both for non-executives and executives simultaneously.

 

4.    3% annual increment


 

A great start has been made. The next meeting of the committee will be held on 19th November to discuss pay scales and other issues.


With Regards:-
G S Rajawat

B S N L
Tonk, Rajasthan
Cell:  +91-9413424883 
gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in


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10. Urgent Query on JTO LICE Eligibility Conditions
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:36 am ((PST))

Dear President/GS/CCs SNATTA,                                                       Reminder-I
 
Greetings!
 
I am an Ex-Serviceman with 21 years of service in IAF. I joined BSNL as TTA through Competitive Exam in the batch of 2002. At present I am serving in KSA on Deputation through TCIL. My SSA is Nagercoil, Tamil Nadu.
 
At the onset, I extend my sincere gratitude for all of our union office bearers' struggle to get the LICE notification with the relaxation of  7 years of regular service. But recently, when I have gone through the eligibility conditions for JTO RR 2001, the maximum age limit permissible is given as below 50 years, whereas, my present age is above 50 years (DOB 20/05/1959).
 
Now, I would like to know whether I will be automatically eligible for age relaxation as an Ex.SM to write the JTO Promotional exam through LICE or not?
 
Moreover, in the Annexure to BSNL Corporate Office letter no. 404-37/2009-Pers.(Legal) dated 11.11.2009 (Attachment to mail sent by Mr. GS Rajawat on Latest Developments in MT Cases dated 11.11.2009 in SNATTA Yahoo group), an Ex-Serviceman Mr.Shankar Lal Kumhar AO has filed a petition in CAT Ahmedabad vide OA No. 367/09 requesting to allow age relaxation to internal candidates in the category of Ex.SM for MT (Accts) Examination.
 
 So my doubt is whether I should also file a petition in CAT to get the age relaxation to sit in JTO LICE exam or can I give a representation to Corporate Office through proper channel for availing age relaxation. Some more Ex.SM.TTAs might be also affected, I suppose.
 
Your earliest and sincere advice will be solicited.
 
Regards.

SN Ameen,TTA, Riyadh, KSA
00966-555802143

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