Topics in this digest:
1. A REPLY TO THE SERVANTS OF BSNLCU
From: abhilash v
2. KenanFX operating manual
From: Manoj
3. Latest News on www.SNATTA.org
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4a. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4b. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
From: Raju Chandran
4c. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4d. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
From: abhilash v
4e. Regarding resignation
From: abhilash v
5a. Re: Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
From: Sandip Solanki
5b. Re: Re: TTABSNL Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
From: sanjib saha
6. BSNL got awards in Energy Conservation.
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7a. BSNL Mobile Blackout Days proposed
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
7b. mutual transfer from Mehsana to Ahmedabad
From: jitendra parmar
8. Fw: rule 8
From: sanu bangar
9. LTC RULLING ATTECHED
From: manoj rawat
10. Important >>> Needs Annual Funds to Fight for Right..
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
11. Where are the BSNLEU supporters?
From: kgm.prasad
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1. A REPLY TO THE SERVANTS OF BSNLCU
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:16 am ((PST))
A REPLY TO THE SERVANTS OF BSNLCU
Dear friends,
Some servants of BSNLEU have started barking for their master just for some coins. They don't know, as it is, their master is the burglar of BSNL.
BSNLEU claims that they saved BSNL by a series of strikes. It is a well known fact that BSNL fallen to the losses due to the anti BSNL attitude of EU's members in the field. There is nobody responsible, other than EU's members, for the huge surrender of land lines.
And not a single demand was raised for the DRTTAs in all these said strikes. They only wanted to safe guard the DoT employees and casual workers and destroy the BSNL. In wage revision too they surrendered to the management by accepting what management offered at the beginning of discussion itself. Then what the strikes and agitations were for? It resulted only a huge loss to BSNL and nothing else. So why we should care about that unnecessary strikes?
BSNLEU claims that in 1986 and 1996 NFTE was the recognised union and they couldn't achieve the fitment for employees who were appointed after the wage revision effect date. There was no BSNLEU in 1986 and all the present leaders of the BSNLEU were the leaders of NFTE at that time. Here the EU leaders are spitting at their own face. If BSNLEU leaders have such a poor memory then please go through the "history" link of your own website sir. More over, there were no fitment formulae in the form of multiplication factor in 1986 and 1996. In those days, during wage revision, the present scale of each cadre was revised to a higher scale and the new recruits were placed into that higher scale. The old employees were given some increments from that scale as per the length of their service. In all the previous wage revisions, newly recruited employees were the most beneficiaries. We challenge BSNLEU to point out a single new recruits in entire Govt.
departments/ PSUs who got a reduced salary after the wage revision in 1986&1996 periods! We pity you leaders. If you don't have single leader having at least a minimum knowledge in history then please contact us. We will depute somebody!
You are accusing NFTE of 10 year service condition. But you never tried to reduce it until the formation of SNATTA in 2006. When SNATTA representatives were at the edge of convincing the management to reduce the service condition to 5 years, you people back stabbed us and made it 7 years. And everybody knows who is behind the stay on JTO LDCE exam!
You are the culprit who signed the discriminatory time bound promotion. Four years for you people and 8 years for new employees for a promotion(means just one increment)! We get just one increment after 8 years in the name of your time bound promotion and it takes 32 years for us to reach the JTO scale. And you are guaranteed and sure that new TTAs will get 4 promotions (better say increments) in our entire service. Which means you are determined that new TTAs never become JTOs! You will never allow a JTO LDCE and we would continue to get only four increments in our entire service!
When we joined in BSNL you were crying for pay scale up gradation of TMs/Sr.TOAs, driver, cable jointer etc. You never demanded the pay scale up gradation of TTAs. Instead you demanded the drivers and cable jointers would be given the salary of TTAs and they would be renamed as TTA driver/TTA cable jointer! (the servants of BSNLEU must understand that with whom EU is equating you). But you didn't achieve anything for TMs, Sr.TOAs, driver or cable jointer. You were be fooling all of them. The one and only one section of the workers for whom you fought with full-hearted and achieved something is nobody other than the CITU people – means casual/contract workers. Of course now they are getting a doubled pay, EPF and job security. You have converted them as a vote bank for your godfather at the cost of BSNL and its employees. Better change your name to BSNL Casual/contract workers union (BSNLCU).
The servants may ask just one question to your masters. Two years back they had signed an agreement with SNATTA.
1. In wage revision TTAs must get the highest pay scale as per the recommendations of 6th Pay Commission.
2. To reduce the service condition under JTO RR-2001 from 10 years to 5 years.
3. To conduct deptt. exam under 35% quota for JTO promotion within a year of this agreement.
4. To issue the orders for inter-circle transfers under para-8 (erstwhile rule-38) for TTAs to their choice circle.
5. Immediate action to change the Designation from TTA to Junior Engineer Telecom (JET).
How many of this conditions have been fulfilled by BSNLEU?
Do the signature of GS of EU has a value of a waste bin?
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
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2. KenanFX operating manual
Posted by: "Manoj" borah_manoj@yahoo.co.in borah_manoj
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:16 am ((PST))
Hi, Friends....
If anyone have KenanFX operating manual, plz forward it....
Manoj Borah,TTA
Kamrup SSA
Assam Circle
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3. Latest News on www.SNATTA.org
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:16 am ((PST))
* Dt 22-12-2010Finally BSNL management has started to prepare ground for the
Centralization of E.P.F. accounts of BSNL recruited employees. SNATTA
appreciates the sincere efforts of our AIGETOA colleagues for pursuing the
EPF issue. Click here for
order.<http://snatta.org/news/EPF%20Centralisation.PDF>
*
* Dt 22-12-2010The MT eligibility case filed by Patron Sh. Pardip Kumar and
SNATTA members in the Principal CAT, New Delhi is in our favour. The DRTTAs
with BE/BTECH and 4 years of service in BSNL are now eligible to appear in
MT Exam. The Petitioners of the case are requested to contact Sh. Pardip
Kumar immediately.*
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
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4a. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:18 am ((PST))
hi,
every word by ranjit singh is true, we should see the statements from our
point of view and make its interpretation to our benefit and to fight with
rivals.
bandhan preet singh
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:03 PM, ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> If we go minutely through the Comments posted at/by BSNLEU, we observe that
> it is not poisnous but fruitful statement for SNATTA, the interpretaion may
> be incorrect :-
>
> 1) The appeal posted on website (using the mane of Mr UDAYAKUMAR) may be
> fake because before posting any view, a TTA might have been written his
> comment in our Discussion forum.
>
> If we assume it is not fake, then also he only appeals for voting to
> BSNLEU. That is his own point of view. Now, It is the duty of SNATTA CHQ to
> motivate all its members about the decission taken in the CEC.
>
> 2) Regarding 'NFTE accepts humiilliiatiing condiitiions"- Why BSNLEU feels
> so shy or humiliated in liew of NFTE. This only shows the frustration of
> BSNLEU after breaking the alliance by SNATTA.
>
> ==== What is wrong in "MEMBERS AT SSA LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO JOIIN
> NFTEAND IN NO CASE BE COMPELLED TO JOIIN STRIIKE WIITHOUT THEIIR
> CONSENT". - This is a condition based aggreement between
> SNATTA & NFTE.
> Though it is well understood that SNATTA is sharing its vote only with NFTE
> not the members. Why the members of SNATTA will join the strike with out the
> consent of CHQ. SNATTA is free to take its own decision besed on the agenda
> of strike in future.
>
> ====== Again I can't undestand what is the problem in 'DUE TO DUAL
> MEMBERSHIIP,, DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIIDERED AS MEMBERS
> OF NFTE ONLY.. DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS ARE IINHERENT MEMBERS OF
> SNATTA..' - Is any bobdy has doubt regading cosidering the members
> of SNATTA as the inherent members of SNATTA.
>
> This agreement shows how influensive our CHQ is.
>
> BSNLEU is making only propaganda on baseless things just to break the unity
> of SNATTA.
>
> Be united and proceed further for joint campaining with NFTE for the next
> verification and ensure our VICTORY.
>
> bye
>
> Ranjit Singh
> TTA (MSC)
> CMTS Cell, Jharkand Circle,
> Ranchi.
> 09431100511.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@yahoo.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:46:26
> *Subject:* TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
>
>
>
> DEAR TTAs.,
> The INCORRIGIBLE and IRRECOVERABLE hopeless BSNLEU Spreads Poisonus
> Statements in its website.
> like * is SNATTA is the Sole-proprietor of DRTTA
> * an APPEAL TO DRTTA By Our DRTTA ( named UDYAKUMAR )
>
> -------NOW WE SEE THE BSNLEU's ORIGINAL FACE.--------
> THANKS TO CHQ FOR RIGHT DECESION ----
> VICTORY IS OURs
> TIME TO OVERTHROW BSNLEU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
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4b. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
Posted by: "Raju Chandran" s_c_r2001@yahoo.com s_c_r2001
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:18 am ((PST))
I think this the right time to rethink about our dual membership!
Why still we ride in two horses? Withdraw our memberships from other unions and pledge ourselves as the lone soldiers of SNATTA only. In our SSA we did this in June-2009 itself. Here in Thanjavur SSA, Tamil Nadu Circle our Circle Secretary Com.A.KaliaPerumal , Dist. Office bearers of SNATTA and my TTA friends all are ONE and ONLY MEMBERS of SNATTA ONLY! Our GM and DGMs well known about our Association and give due respect to our representatives in official functions like BSNL day celebration, opinion leader meetings etc. Here we are operating full pledgly as a separate association (union) also settled the local issues like transfers and others. So we can withdraw our subscriptions from Jan-2011.
Please rethink about this…!
S C Rajeswaran
DS,SNATTA,Thanjavur,Tamil Nadu.
9443073334
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:03 PM
Dear Friends,
If we go minutely through the Comments posted at/by BSNLEU, we observe that it is not poisnous but fruitful statement for SNATTA, the interpretaion may be incorrect :-
1) The appeal posted on website (using the mane of Mr UDAYAKUMAR) may be fake because before posting any view, a TTA might have been written his comment in our Discussion forum.
If we assume it is not fake, then also he only appeals for voting to BSNLEU. That is his own point of view. Now, It is the duty of SNATTA CHQ to motivate all its members about the decission taken in the CEC.
2) Regarding 'NFTE accepts humiilliiatiing condiitiions"- Why BSNLEU feels so shy or humiliated in liew of NFTE. This only shows the frustration of BSNLEU after breaking the alliance by SNATTA.
==== What is wrong in "MEMBERS AT SSA LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO JOIIN NFTEAND IN NO CASE BE COMPELLED TO JOIIN STRIIKE WIITHOUT THEIIR
CONSENT". - This is a condition based aggreement between SNATTA & NFTE.
Though it is well understood that SNATTA is sharing its vote only with NFTE not the members. Why the members of SNATTA will join the strike with out the consent of CHQ. SNATTA is free to take its own decision besed on the agenda of strike in future.
====== Again I can't undestand what is the problem in 'DUE TO DUAL MEMBERSHIIP,, DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIIDERED AS MEMBERS OF NFTE ONLY.. DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS ARE IINHERENT MEMBERS OF SNATTA..' - Is any bobdy has doubt regading cosidering the members of SNATTA as the inherent members of SNATTA.
This agreement shows how influensive our CHQ is.
BSNLEU is making only propaganda on baseless things just to break the unity of SNATTA.
Be united and proceed further for joint campaining with NFTE for the next verification and ensure our VICTORY.
bye
Ranjit Singh
TTA (MSC)
CMTS Cell, Jharkand Circle,
Ranchi.
09431100511.
From: SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:46:26
Subject: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
DEAR TTAs.,
The INCORRIGIBLE and IRRECOVERABLE hopeless BSNLEU Spreads Poisonus Statements in its website.
like * is SNATTA is the Sole-proprietor of DRTTA
* an APPEAL TO DRTTA By Our DRTTA ( named UDYAKUMAR )
-------NOW WE SEE THE BSNLEU's ORIGINAL FACE.--------
THANKS TO CHQ FOR RIGHT DECESION ----
VICTORY IS OURs
TIME TO OVERTHROW BSNLEU
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4c. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:56 pm ((PST))
hi
rajeswaran ji , we are proud of your team's achievements. you are are
showing great courage and settings examples for others.
i hope pritpal singh Distt President of BSNLEU reading this piece of info
and resign from president-ship of BSNLEU immediately as he is always showing
Off his Rank on the yahoo group as he is a great leader in there distt. but
TTAs in his SSA complaining of non-settlement of Transfer cases since ages.
Pritpal even committed here that he willl get justice for the suffering TTA
within 3 months and now 6 months has been passed and his promise is still a
promise.
regards,
bandhan preet singh
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Raju Chandran <s_c_r2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think this the right time to rethink about our dual membership!
>
> Why still we ride in two horses? Withdraw our memberships from other
> unions and pledge ourselves as the lone soldiers of SNATTA only. In our SSA
> we did this in June-2009 itself. Here in Thanjavur SSA, Tamil Nadu Circle
> our *Circle Secretary Com.A.KaliaPerumal* , Dist. Office bearers of
> SNATTA and my TTA friends all are *ONE and ONLY MEMBERS of SNATTA ONLY! *
> Our GM and DGMs well known about our Association and give due respect to
> our representatives in official functions like BSNL day celebration, opinion
> leader meetings etc. Here we are operating full pledgly as a separate
> association (union) also settled the local issues like transfers and others.
> So we can withdraw our subscriptions from Jan-2011.
>
> Please rethink about this�!
> *S C Rajeswaran*
> *DS,SNATTA,Thanjavur,Tamil Nadu.*
> *9443073334
> *
> --- On *Wed, 12/22/10, ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
>
>
> From: ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:03 PM
>
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> If we go minutely through the Comments posted at/by BSNLEU, we observe that
> it is not poisnous but fruitful statement for SNATTA, the interpretaion may
> be incorrect :-
>
> 1) The appeal posted on website (using the mane of Mr UDAYAKUMAR) may be
> fake because before posting any view, a TTA might have been written his
> comment in our Discussion forum.
>
> If we assume it is not fake, then also he only appeals for voting to
> BSNLEU. That is his own point of view. Now, It is the duty of SNATTA CHQ to
> motivate all its members about the decission taken in the CEC.
>
> 2) Regarding 'NFTE accepts humiilliiatiing condiitiions"- Why BSNLEU feels
> so shy or humiliated in liew of NFTE. This only shows the frustration of
> BSNLEU after breaking the alliance by SNATTA.
>
> ==== What is wrong in "MEMBERS AT SSA LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO JOIIN
> NFTEAND IN NO CASE BE COMPELLED TO JOIIN STRIIKE WIITHOUT THEIIR
> CONSENT". - This is a condition based aggreement between
> SNATTA & NFTE.
> Though it is well understood that SNATTA is sharing its vote only with NFTE
> not the members. Why the members of SNATTA will join the strike with out the
> consent of CHQ. SNATTA is free to take its own decision besed on the agenda
> of strike in future.
>
> ====== Again I can't undestand what is the problem in 'DUE TO DUAL
> MEMBERSHIIP,, DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIIDERED AS MEMBERS
> OF NFTE ONLY.. DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS ARE IINHERENT MEMBERS OF
> SNATTA..' - Is any bobdy has doubt regading cosidering the members
> of SNATTA as the inherent members of SNATTA.
>
> This agreement shows how influensive our CHQ is.
>
> BSNLEU is making only propaganda on baseless things just to break the unity
> of SNATTA.
>
> Be united and proceed further for joint campaining with NFTE for the next
> verification and ensure our VICTORY.
>
> bye
>
> Ranjit Singh
> TTA (MSC)
> CMTS Cell, Jharkand Circle,
> Ranchi.
> 09431100511.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@yahoo.com>
> *To:* TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:46:26
> *Subject:* TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
>
>
>
> DEAR TTAs.,
> The INCORRIGIBLE and IRRECOVERABLE hopeless BSNLEU Spreads Poisonus
> Statements in its website.
> like * is SNATTA is the Sole-proprietor of DRTTA
> * an APPEAL TO DRTTA By Our DRTTA ( named UDYAKUMAR )
>
> -------NOW WE SEE THE BSNLEU's ORIGINAL FACE.--------
> THANKS TO CHQ FOR RIGHT DECESION ----
> VICTORY IS OURs
> TIME TO OVERTHROW BSNLEU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
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4d. Re: VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:07 am ((PST))
Dear Rajeswaran,
Congrats for the position of SNATTA that you have achieved in your district. But in many SSAs, situation is different. TTAs need some local help there. But gradually we can completely changed to a position like your SSA.
yours
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Wed, 22/12/10, Raju Chandran <s_c_r2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Raju Chandran <s_c_r2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, 4:08 PM
I think this the right time to rethink about our dual membership!
Why still we ride in two horses? Withdraw our memberships from other unions and pledge ourselves as the lone soldiers of SNATTA only. In our SSA we did this in June-2009 itself. Here in Thanjavur SSA, Tamil Nadu Circle our Circle Secretary Com.A.KaliaPerumal , Dist. Office bearers of SNATTA and my TTA friends all are ONE and ONLY MEMBERS of SNATTA ONLY! Our GM and DGMs well known about our Association and give due respect to our representatives in official functions like BSNL day celebration, opinion leader meetings etc. Here we are operating full pledgly as a separate association (union) also settled the local issues like transfers and others. So we can withdraw our subscriptions from Jan-2011.
Please rethink about this…!
S C Rajeswaran
DS,SNATTA,Thanjavur,Tamil Nadu.
9443073334
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:03 PM
Dear Friends,
If we go minutely through the Comments posted at/by BSNLEU, we observe that it is not poisnous but fruitful statement for SNATTA, the interpretaion may be incorrect :-
1) The appeal posted on website (using the mane of Mr UDAYAKUMAR) may be fake because before posting any view, a TTA might have been written his comment in our Discussion forum.
If we assume it is not fake, then also he only appeals for voting to BSNLEU. That is his own point of view. Now, It is the duty of SNATTA CHQ to motivate all its members about the decission taken in the CEC.
2) Regarding 'NFTE accepts humiilliiatiing condiitiions"- Why BSNLEU feels so shy or humiliated in liew of NFTE. This only shows the frustration of BSNLEU after breaking the alliance by SNATTA.
==== What is wrong in "MEMBERS AT SSA LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO JOIIN NFTEAND IN NO CASE BE COMPELLED TO JOIIN STRIIKE WIITHOUT THEIIR
CONSENT". - This is a condition based aggreement between SNATTA & NFTE.
Though it is well understood that SNATTA is sharing its vote only with NFTE not the members. Why the members of SNATTA will join the strike with out the consent of CHQ. SNATTA is free to take its own decision besed on the agenda of strike in future.
====== Again I can't undestand what is the problem in 'DUE TO DUAL MEMBERSHIIP,, DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIIDERED AS MEMBERS OF NFTE ONLY.. DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS ARE IINHERENT MEMBERS OF SNATTA..' - Is any bobdy has doubt regading cosidering the members of SNATTA as the inherent members of SNATTA.
This agreement shows how influensive our CHQ is.
BSNLEU is making only propaganda on baseless things just to break the unity of SNATTA.
Be united and proceed further for joint campaining with NFTE for the next verification and ensure our VICTORY.
bye
Ranjit Singh
TTA (MSC)
CMTS Cell, Jharkand Circle,
Ranchi.
09431100511.
From: SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:46:26
Subject: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
DEAR TTAs.,
The INCORRIGIBLE and IRRECOVERABLE hopeless BSNLEU Spreads Poisonus Statements in its website.
like * is SNATTA is the Sole-proprietor of DRTTA
* an APPEAL TO DRTTA By Our DRTTA ( named UDYAKUMAR )
-------NOW WE SEE THE BSNLEU's ORIGINAL FACE.--------
THANKS TO CHQ FOR RIGHT DECESION ----
VICTORY IS OURs
TIME TO OVERTHROW BSNLEU
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4e. Regarding resignation
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 am ((PST))
Dear Bandan,
Don't worry. He may resign soon. It will be a shock to BSNLEU when the news of their District President's resignation announces in some websites. He is a soldier of SNATTA. When he had the isssue of Award, it was very very easy for him to solve it as the District President of BSNLEU. But he didn't do it to avoid a commitment to BSNLEU(Don't you remember his words?). He will soon show that it was not his lack of capability as a District President.We are waiting.. Come on Pritpal..Come on..
yours
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Wed, 22/12/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, 7:55 PM
hi
rajeswaran ji , we are proud of your team's achievements. you are are showing great courage and settings examples for others.
i hope pritpal singh Distt President of BSNLEU reading this piece of info and resign from president-ship of BSNLEU immediately as he is always showing Off his Rank on the yahoo group as he is a great leader in there distt. but TTAs in his SSA complaining of non-settlement of Transfer cases since ages. Pritpal even committed here that he willl get justice for the suffering TTA within 3 months and now 6 months has been passed and his promise is still a promise.
regards,
bandhan preet singh
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Raju Chandran <s_c_r2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think this the right time to rethink about our dual membership!
Why still we ride in two horses? Withdraw our memberships from other unions and pledge ourselves as the lone soldiers of SNATTA only. In our SSA we did this in June-2009 itself. Here in Thanjavur SSA, Tamil Nadu Circle our Circle Secretary Com.A.KaliaPerumal , Dist. Office bearers of SNATTA and my TTA friends all are ONE and ONLY MEMBERS of SNATTA ONLY! Our GM and DGMs well known about our Association and give due respect to our representatives in official functions like BSNL day celebration, opinion leader meetings etc. Here we are operating full pledgly as a separate association (union) also settled the local issues like transfers and others. So we can withdraw our subscriptions from Jan-2011.
Please rethink about this…!
S C Rajeswaran
DS,SNATTA,Thanjavur,Tamil Nadu.
9443073334
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: ranjit singh <ranjit_bsnl@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:03 PM
Dear Friends,
If we go minutely through the Comments posted at/by BSNLEU, we observe that it is not poisnous but fruitful statement for SNATTA, the interpretaion may be incorrect :-
1) The appeal posted on website (using the mane of Mr UDAYAKUMAR) may be fake because before posting any view, a TTA might have been written his comment in our Discussion forum.
If we assume it is not fake, then also he only appeals for voting to BSNLEU. That is his own point of view. Now, It is the duty of SNATTA CHQ to motivate all its members about the decission taken in the CEC.
2) Regarding 'NFTE accepts humiilliiatiing condiitiions"- Why BSNLEU feels so shy or humiliated in liew of NFTE. This only shows the frustration of BSNLEU after breaking the alliance by SNATTA.
==== What is wrong in "MEMBERS AT SSA LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO JOIIN NFTEAND IN NO CASE BE COMPELLED TO JOIIN STRIIKE WIITHOUT THEIIR
CONSENT". - This is a condition based aggreement between SNATTA & NFTE.
Though it is well understood that SNATTA is sharing its vote only with NFTE not the members. Why the members of SNATTA will join the strike with out the consent of CHQ. SNATTA is free to take its own decision besed on the agenda of strike in future.
====== Again I can't undestand what is the problem in 'DUE TO DUAL MEMBERSHIIP,, DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIIDERED AS MEMBERS OF NFTE ONLY.. DIIRECT RECRUIITED TTAS ARE IINHERENT MEMBERS OF SNATTA..' - Is any bobdy has doubt regading cosidering the members of SNATTA as the inherent members of SNATTA.
This agreement shows how influensive our CHQ is.
BSNLEU is making only propaganda on baseless things just to break the unity of SNATTA.
Be united and proceed further for joint campaining with NFTE for the next verification and ensure our VICTORY.
bye
Ranjit Singh
TTA (MSC)
CMTS Cell, Jharkand Circle,
Ranchi.
09431100511.
From: SPA Gopalan <spa_gopalan@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:46:26
Subject: TTABSNL VERY VERY BAD TRICKS & Comments from BSNLEU WEBSITE
DEAR TTAs.,
The INCORRIGIBLE and IRRECOVERABLE hopeless BSNLEU Spreads Poisonus Statements in its website.
like * is SNATTA is the Sole-proprietor of DRTTA
* an APPEAL TO DRTTA By Our DRTTA ( named UDYAKUMAR )
-------NOW WE SEE THE BSNLEU's ORIGINAL FACE.--------
THANKS TO CHQ FOR RIGHT DECESION ----
VICTORY IS OURs
TIME TO OVERTHROW BSNLEU
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd, Punjab.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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5a. Re: Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:55 pm ((PST))
Dear Prasad,
Do not bother of the person.
Our Gujarat Circle President have talked with him.
He is a brainwashed boy of BSNLEU.
He was never a member of SNATTA.
He has nothing to think about DR-TTA. He has only to think about Sr.TOA, PM, RM, DRIVER etc. with BSNLEU.
He is a DRTTA but not an SNATTian.
So live him and concentrate on our future stratergies.
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
--- On Tue, 21/12/10, kgm.prasad <kgm.prasad@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: kgm.prasad <kgm.prasad@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 8:34 PM
My opinions on the letter published by a TTA friend Mr Uday Kumar on BSNLEU official site.
You say that "BSNL posted a loss of 1600 loss for the year 2009-10 and it is reported that the loss would be 6000 crores this time."
How did you get this information? Who gave you this information? How did you arrive at this figure? Please educate me and please explain how BSNLEU can bring us the profits if what you said is authentic?
You said that BSNLEU was capable of uniting executives and non-executives and I wonder if that means anything to us.
You have talked about financial viability. Do you know what is the outcome of the great struggle that was engineered by the JAC and are you sure any of those demands put-up by them will be a reality?
If there is a bill passed in the parliament about dis-investment of BSNL, do you think BSNLEU can withhold the decision? If so, please clarify how would it be done and educate me as I am at loss to understand how it will be possible.
Does the track record (prior to induction of DRTTAs) of any union matter to your present status in BSNL? I am not sure if it really matters to me. Please educate me on these lines. I will be grateful to you if you can enlighten me on this.
Agreed that NFTE did not demand 5 years time bound promotion. What if it has not demanded? Not single TTA is worried about those so called 4 promotions that you talked about in a good length of your communication. If a TTA is worried about anything today is the examination to gain further promotion. Not a single TTA, I reapeat, not a single TTA is worried about time bound promotion. DRTTAs are capable of taking up promotion examination to JTO as it is considered as the feeder cadre to executive cadre and a decision that a TTA who has completed 5 years should be made eligible for the LICE is the need of the hour. Why do you worry so much about 4 promotions in the total length of the service? It does not sound logical at all. Once a TTA becomes an executive, does he/she have to worry about the so called time bound promotion? Correct me if I am wrong. I will be really happy to accept your valuable guidance in this matter.
We need the examinations conducted at the earliest and we need that the TTAs who have completed 5 years of service should be made eligible for it. It is as clear as that. NFTE has already initiated the demand of reduction of eligibility criterion and hence there is nothing wrong if we have decided to be with them this time. They have accepted all the conditions, a neatly and clearly laid out conditions by our GS. I appreciate our GS for the clarity he has shown in framing those conditions. Very well scripted set of conditions. Youngman, the future is ours. We will be in a great strength oneday (not very far) that we can conclude, decide, many issues by ourselves.
If you have an appeal to make to the TTAs, come and join the group and voice your opinion here and convince people. Don't just put up a letter in the web site of BSNLEU and shy away. Let us discuss in length about each and every question of yours. Come, let us face the issue. I am really sorry if I have made an offensive gesture. I am little emotional by nature and hence this outcome.
I welcome all the young ones to share your views too. Thanks and regards
TTA Prasad KGM
Charminar
9440603060
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5b. Re: Re: TTABSNL Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
Posted by: "sanjib saha" sanjib_mnp@rediffmail.com sanjib_r2006
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:09 am ((PST))
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:46:32 +0530 wrote
>
Dear Sandip,
Can you please provide me the contact no of that silly & foolish boy so that I can give him some beautiful languages to him. If he is a DRTTA and satisfied with his loss of pay then I think he is not deserved for it and he got the job via -BSNLEU.
Regds,
Sanjib Saha
Dear Prasad,
Do not bother of the person.
Our Gujarat Circle President have talked with him.
He is a brainwashed boy of BSNLEU.
He was never a member of SNATTA.
He has nothing to think about DR-TTA. He has only to think about Sr.TOA, PM, RM, DRIVER etc. with BSNLEU.
He is a DRTTA but not an SNATTian.
So live him and concentrate on our future stratergies.
>
>
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
>
>--- On Tue, 21/12/10, kgm.prasad wrote:
>
>From: kgm.prasad
>Subject: TTABSNL Time to show our solidarity.. Time to be united...
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 8:34 PM
>
>
My opinions on the letter published by a TTA friend Mr Uday Kumar on BSNLEU official site.
You say that "BSNL posted a loss of 1600 loss for the year 2009-10 and it is reported that the loss would be 6000 crores this time."
How did you get this information? Who gave you this information? How did you arrive at this figure? Please educate me and please explain how BSNLEU can bring us the profits if what you said is authentic?
You said that BSNLEU was capable of uniting executives and non-executives and I wonder if that means anything to us.
You have talked about financial viability. Do you know what is the outcome of the great struggle that was engineered by the JAC and are you sure any of those demands put-up by them will be a reality?
If there is a bill passed in the parliament about dis-investment of BSNL, do you think BSNLEU can withhold the decision? If so, please clarify how would it be done and educate me as I am at loss to understand how it will be possible.
Does the track record (prior to induction of DRTTAs) of any union matter to your present status in BSNL? I am not sure if it really matters to me. Please educate me on these lines. I will be grateful to you if you can enlighten me on this.
Agreed that NFTE did not demand 5 years time bound promotion. What if it has not demanded? Not single TTA is worried about those so called 4 promotions that you talked about in a good length of your communication. If a TTA is worried about anything today is the examination to gain further promotion. Not a single TTA, I reapeat, not a single TTA is worried about time bound promotion. DRTTAs are capable of taking up promotion examination to JTO as it is considered as the feeder cadre to executive cadre and a decision that a TTA who has completed 5 years should be made eligible for the LICE is the need of the hour. Why do you worry so much about 4 promotions in the total length of the service? It does not sound logical at all.
Once a TTA becomes an executive, does he/she have to worry about the so called time bound promotion? Correct me if I am wrong. I will be really happy to accept your valuable guidance in this matter.
We need the examinations conducted at the earliest and we need that the TTAs who have completed 5 years of service should be made eligible for it. It is as clear as that. NFTE has already initiated the demand of reduction of eligibility criterion and hence there is nothing wrong if we have decided to be with them this time. They have accepted all the conditions, a neatly and clearly laid out conditions by our GS. I appreciate our GS for the clarity he has shown in framing those conditions. Very well scripted set of conditions. Youngman, the future is ours. We will be in a great strength oneday (not very far)that we can conclude, decide, many issues by ourselves.
If you have an appeal to make to the TTAs, come and join thegroup and voice your opinion here and convince people. Don't just put up a letter in the web site of BSNLEU and shy away. Let us discuss in length about each and every question of yours. Come, let us face the issue. I am really sorry if I havemade an offensive gesture. I am little emotional by nature and hence this outcome.
I welcome all the young ones to share your views too. Thanks and regards
TTA Prasad KGM
Charminar
9440603060
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6. BSNL got awards in Energy Conservation.
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:58 pm ((PST))
*BSNL got awards in Energy Conservation.*
file attached
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/2039791787/item/list
BSNL got awards in Energy Conservation.pdf
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7a. BSNL Mobile Blackout Days proposed
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:58 pm ((PST))
*BSNL Mobile Blackout Days proposed*
file attached
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1951230318/item/list
BSNL Blackout days.pdf
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7b. mutual transfer from Mehsana to Ahmedabad
Posted by: "jitendra parmar" jitendranparmar@yahoo.com jitendranparmar
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 am ((PST))
Anyone Interested in mutual transfer from ahmedabad to mehsana.
jitendra parmar
9429060604
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8. Fw: rule 8
Posted by: "sanu bangar" sanjayverma88@yahoo.co.in sanjayverma88
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:07 am ((PST))
--- On Tue, 21/12/10, sanu bangar <sanjayverma88@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: sanu bangar <sanjayverma88@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: rule 8
To: yoursraj77@rediffmail.com
Cc: sanjayverma88@yahoo.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 1:44 PM
hello
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1091046262/item/list
para
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9. LTC RULLING ATTECHED
Posted by: "manoj rawat" rawat_2387@yahoo.co.in rawat_2387
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 am ((PST))
hi,
all DRtta's here i m atteching ltc rulling for your refference. plz clere
your douts through this
MANOJ RAWAT
TTA(CMTS), SIROHI
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10. Important >>> Needs Annual Funds to Fight for Right..
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:09 am ((PST))
*hi SNATTAians,*
*kindly read the below and act accordingly.**
*
*
*
* Annual Membership Fund ** : All the Circle Secretaries should ensure that
their membership quota fee of `20 per member is submitted to the SNATTA CHQ
AXIS bank account before 10.01.2011. Mail the details of the Fund remitted
to the CHQ on hardeep1977@gmail.com and get the return confirmation from All
India Treasurer, Sh. Hardeep Singh.*
*Circle* *Name of Circle Secretary* *Total Number of DRTTAS* *Total Fund in
Rupees* *Date of Remittance in CHQ Axis Account* *Mode of Transaction*
--
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,* <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSFkRp_0ZI>
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL <http://www.bsnl.co.in>, Mohali, Chd, Punjab<http://www.punjab.bsnl.co.in>
.
*Think Different...Think Good..!! *
"*THINK *GOOD--*SPREAD *GOOD, *DO *GOOD--*HAVE *GOOD"
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11. Where are the BSNLEU supporters?
Posted by: "kgm.prasad" kgm.prasad@yahoo.com kgm.prasad
Date: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:15 am ((PST))
I do not think/feel that there are any DRTTAs who are supporting BSNLEU till date. Else, someone would have voiced their opinion.
Am I to understand/conclude that those guys who still support BSNLEU have no blood running through their veins and None of them have courage or guts to face the people on the group? They just publish a letter on the net and shy away.
YOU the misguided youth, Why are'nt you showing up? Everyone in the group has their mobile numbers listed at the end of each communication. Speak to someone of your choice.
It is high time you understand the ground realities and join back the TTA band wagon. We want you back. You are the misguided people of our tribe. May our tribe be always united. We dont want to loose you. Do you understand this? Come back and join our struggle and get life.
There is nothing wrong if you have a different opinion. But then, come and share your feelings with us. It may so happen that you could find some sense in what we are saying. You still have sometime to think and act.
Best wishes
KGM Prasad
TTA@Broadband Helpdesk
Charminar
9440603060
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