Topics in this digest:
1a. MT CASE
From: ajit singh
2. Our fight for MT exam is justified
From: shamsul huda
3a. iam not getting mails from the group
From: kalyan kar
3b. Re: iam not getting mails from the group
From: bsnl_chd
4a. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
From: jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in
4b. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
From: jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in
4c. JTO LDCE and MTRR
From: shahulhameed noorulameen
4d. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
From: pradip panigrahy
5. Mutual transfer from Patiala to New Delhi
From: mukeshr.kumar
6a. why can't bsnleu help
From: ramakrishna r.s
6b. Re: why can't bsnleu help
From: umesh toshniwal
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1a. MT CASE
Posted by: "ajit singh" ajit_singhask@yahoo.com ajit_singhask
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:02 am ((PDT))
hi manishji,
HOW R U, IS THERE IS ANY UPDATE OF MT ORDERS.
BSNL MANAGEMENT ISSUED ANY LETTER FOR ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS OF TTA'S FOR MT ?????????????????
AS ALL OF US KNOW 23-OCT IS THE LAST DATE.
PLZ KEEP US INFORM ME AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
AJIT SINGH KUSHWAH
9425754520, GWALIOR-SSA
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2. Our fight for MT exam is justified
Posted by: "shamsul huda" huda_muthaleef@yahoo.com huda_muthaleef
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:02 am ((PDT))
Our fight for appearing in the MT exam is justified. Even if we stage a dharna for JTO (Internal) exam now, the management will turn a deaf ear towards us. Our young minds should not take rest and get rusted. We should try our best to climb the ladder.So what if we want to climb to the top? Are we not qualified enough? Are we not young and energetic? So all TTAs please exploit this oppurtunity.
Shamsul Huda, TTA
Chennai Telepones
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3a. iam not getting mails from the group
Posted by: "kalyan kar" kalyan_7fru@yahoo.co.in kalyan_7fru
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:04 am ((PDT))
hi rajawat
iam not getting group mails
earlier u said the problem is rectified
but still iam not gettting mails
please check it out and rectify the problem
thanks
-- On Sat, 22/8/09, G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Password checker
To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 22 August, 2009, 9:44 PM
http://www.microsof t.com/protect/ yourself/ password/ checker.mspx? WT.mc_id= Banner_Password_ Checker
With Regards:-
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3b. Re: iam not getting mails from the group
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:06 am ((PDT))
hi kalyan,,
your problem has been addressed. hope you will get all emails in your inbox now.
Anybody facing any kind of email problem then pls report here...
regards,
Er.Bandhan Preet Singh .
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4a. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
Posted by: "jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in" jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in jaiprakashsinghtta
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:05 am ((PDT))
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Dear friends
As Mr.Vikash Kr. Gupta has rightly pointed out if this(MTRR) case was fought through snatta then it would have been very good. Above all no one would have thought of being alinated in this process.Fighting seperately demonstrates diversity in unity atleast in first look it seems, though the matter is not like that. I think our action should be always like that it should reflect unity in all endever we take.
Thanking you
JAI PRKASH SINGH
TTA OFC MANSA
9463312774
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4b. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
Posted by: "jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in" jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in jaiprakashsinghtta
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:40 am ((PDT))
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From: "jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in" <jaiprakashsinghtta@yahoo.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 October, 2009 6:59:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] JTO LDCE and MTRR
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Dear friends
As Mr.Vikash Kr. Gupta has rightly pointed out if this(MTRR) case was fought through snatta then it would have been very good. Above all no one would have thought of being alinated in this process.Fighting seperately demonstrates diversity in unity atleast in first look it seems, though the matter is not like that. I think our action should be always like that it should reflect unity in all endever we take.
Thanking you
JAI PRKASH SINGH
TTA OFC MANSA
9463312774
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4c. JTO LDCE and MTRR
Posted by: "shahulhameed noorulameen" noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in noorulameen2006
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:08 am ((PDT))
Dear All
Mr VK Gupta has brought up some excuses for delaying the process of Internal JTO LDCE. You may recollect when Mr Samal has mentioned in his earlier mail that some one will be always missing the boat by a few days, in any type of decision implemented by the BSNL Mgt on LDCE. I remember, the list of about 1500 TTAs who are not eligible for immediate JTO LDCE exam, whose date of recruitment goes on upto Feb/March 2004. If SNATTA CHQ feels to accommodate everyone in the list during forth coming LDCE exam, assume, it might be conducted only in late 2011 or 2012 so that the last TTA of 2002 batch will cover 7 years of service as on 01st July 2011 cut off date. Whereas, the TTA of 2002 Batch will definitely complete 10 years when the exam will be over and further anticipated result and promotion will lead upto 11 years of TTA service. So decide in which way SNATTA CHQ should go for demanding early JTO under LDCE. Had the MT problem not cropped up, JTO LDCE
Exam could have been called for already by this time. As some members rightly put in, the focus of our union is diverted from the main agenda for which our union is formed.
Again it may be kept in mind that due to over burden of new pay scale implementation to Executives, BSNL is going to be split into another PSU with responsibility of OFC networks and special services, and a possible transfer or deputation or VRS to over 2 lakh of BSNL employees is most likely ( kindly refer the website of executives union for details ) leaving behind only land line services to the BSNL. If this is the case, do you expect the present vacancy of JTO will remain there? or in a worst situation, BSNL may not agree to conduct JTO LDCE as most of the exchanges will be converted into RSUs as it used to be earlier and promotion prospect is going to be bleak. At present, the existing total JTO vacancy all over India is near about 8000 or so and almost 80% of eligible TTAs are likely to be benefited by conducting early JTO LDCE exam. Whereas, in the MT exam, not even 1 % of DRTTA is going to be benefited though, you are correct in fighting for
your rights, at the cost of all waiting TTAs.
Pse correct me if I am wrong and anticipate a benevolent move from our CHQ office bearers in the largest interest of our members.
I remain.
SN Ameen, TTA, KSA
00966555802143
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4d. Re: JTO LDCE and MTRR
Posted by: "pradip panigrahy" pradip_panigrahy@yahoo.co.in pradip_panigrahy
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:42 pm ((PDT))
Dear mr ameen
very well said and good collection of facts and thoughts so at the end of this the outcome of this discussion should be to pursue hardly for the JTO LDCE exam without any second thought . We do also agree that the MT and pay revision issue is also important. But freinds all these things can only be achieved if the responsibilities at chq level should be divided in groups then only we can fight for all our issues at the same time otherwise as said by you the time when we reached the struggle for other issues then the ldce exam might be postponed up to 2013 or 2014 or so and then it will depend upon the position of BSNL at that particular moment
Pradip Kumar Panigrahy Corporate Cell,BSNLPunjab Telecom Circle ,Ludhiana Contact No- 0161-2771977,2099002,9417233777
--- On Tue, 20/10/09, shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: shahulhameed noorulameen <noorulameen2006@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] JTO LDCE and MTRR
To: "tta bsnl" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009, 10:33 PM
Dear All
Mr VK Gupta has brought up some excuses for delaying the process of Internal JTO LDCE. You may recollect when Mr Samal has mentioned in his earlier mail that some one will be always missing the boat by a few days, in any type of decision implemented by the BSNL Mgt on LDCE. I remember, the list of about 1500 TTAs who are not eligible for immediate JTO LDCE exam, whose date of recruitment goes on upto Feb/March 2004. If SNATTA CHQ feels to accommodate everyone in the list during forth coming LDCE exam, assume, it might be conducted only in late 2011 or 2012 so that the last TTA of 2002 batch will cover 7 years of service as on 01st July 2011 cut off date. Whereas, the TTA of 2002 Batch will definitely complete 10 years when the exam will be over and further anticipated result and promotion will lead upto 11 years of
TTA service. So decide in which way SNATTA CHQ should go for demanding early JTO under LDCE. Had the MT problem not cropped up, JTO LDCE Exam could have been called for already by this time. As some members rightly put in, the focus of our union is diverted from the main agenda for which our union is formed.
Again it may be kept in mind that due to over burden of new pay scale implementation to Executives, BSNL is going to be split into another PSU with responsibility of OFC networks and special services, and a possible transfer or deputation or VRS to over 2 lakh of BSNL employees is most likely ( kindly refer the website of executives union for details ) leaving behind only land line services to the BSNL. If this is the case, do you expect the present vacancy of JTO will remain there? or in a worst situation, BSNL may not agree to conduct JTO LDCE as most of the exchanges will be converted into RSUs as it used to be earlier and promotion
prospect is going to be bleak. At present, the existing total JTO vacancy all over India is near about 8000 or so and almost 80% of eligible TTAs are likely to be benefited by conducting early JTO LDCE exam. Whereas, in the MT exam, not even 1 % of DRTTA is going to be benefited though, you are correct in fighting for your rights, at the cost of all waiting TTAs.
Pse correct me if I am wrong and anticipate a benevolent move from our CHQ office bearers in the largest interest of our members.
I remain.
SN Ameen, TTA, KSA
00966555802143
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5. Mutual transfer from Patiala to New Delhi
Posted by: "mukeshr.kumar" mkc.mca04.jmi@gmail.com mukeshr.kumar
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:43 am ((PDT))
Hi
I'm working as a TTA in BSNL Patiala and wish to come to Delhi region. If anybody is interested in moving from Delhi region (Delhi/Noida/Sonipat/ghaziabad/gurgaon) to Patiala, Please contact me at:-
9316505066
9871116808.
Thanks.
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6a. why can't bsnleu help
Posted by: "ramakrishna r.s" rs_ramakrishna@yahoo.com rs_ramakrishna
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:52 am ((PDT))
friends,
vikas explained the matter very well. approaching cat for eligibility by spending 1000 to 1500
by every person and that too for the exam which surrounded by so many problems leaves so much confusion.
our SNATTA must file a court case which may benfit all tta's. why our leaders are thinking on that i don't know. if we get the eligibility through court case then it will be like a jackpot to us for our service restriction in jto ldce.
for financial help i can say whithout any doubt that everybody will contribute to it. one thing is that why we are not taking financial help from BSNLEU.consider this
every month from our 10,000 ( for example ) tta's 10,000 X 15 = 1,50,000
for 1 year 1,50,000 X 12 = 18,00,000
i think we all are doing this for last 4 years.
in this MT issue BSNLEU should not leave every thing on SNATTA saying that it is going to benifit you people only, pl. do it your self. till now our union behaviour is like that only.
As our strength is low compared to other cadres and we also need BSNLEU support in some big issues. But this should not be taken as weakness.
ramakrishna
ahmednagar
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6b. Re: why can't bsnleu help
Posted by: "umesh toshniwal" utoshniwal_04@yahoo.co.in utoshniwal_04
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:51 am ((PDT))
Dear All friends,
Pls. ignore prv. mail.
I think that all of us are agree with the facts given by ramakrishna. As we all SNATTA members are supporting BSNLEU since long time with Nos.,time& money. Why shouldn't BSNLEU favour & support us, whenever we need ? At present we are part of the recog. union so SNATTA chq. must presurrise the Namboodiri ji to take up the issue of JTO LDCE & MT case on the union platform.
We all are discussing so many point about the eligibility of JTO LDCE with 7 yr.& 5 yr. limit but friends this is the fact that still we are waiting for the 7 yr. orders from mgmt. Our cadre is totally dependent on the mercy of namboodiriji & mgmt. & both are not bother about this cadre sincerely ,so we request SNATTA chq. to pls. discuss the above matters of MT & JTO LDCE with GS, BSNLEU & Mgmt. frequently so as to get the Max. benefits to our cadre.
We are always with SNATTA chq. for any kind of supports.
Once again wishing you all a very Happy diwali.
With Regards,
Umesh Toshniwal
TTA(WLL,GE)
Chittorgarh, Raj.
01472-203122
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From: ramakrishna r.s <rs_ramakrishna@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] why can't bsnleu help
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009, 10:17 PM
friends,
vikas explained the matter very well. approaching cat for eligibility by spending 1000 to 1500
by every person and that too for the exam which surrounded by so many problems leaves so much confusion.
our SNATTA must file a court case which may benfit all tta's. why our leaders are thinking on that i don't know. if we get the eligibility through court case then it will be like a jackpot to us for our service restriction in jto ldce.
for financial help i can say whithout any doubt that everybody will contribute to it. one thing is that why we are not taking financial help from BSNLEU.consider this
every month from our 10,000 ( for example ) tta's 10,000 X 15 = 1,50,000
for 1 year 1,50,000 X 12 = 18,00,000
i think we all are doing this for last 4 years.
in this MT issue BSNLEU should not leave every thing on SNATTA saying that it is going to benifit you people only, pl. do it your self. till now our union behaviour is like that only.
As our strength is low compared to other cadres and we also need BSNLEU support in some big issues. But this should not be taken as weakness.
ramakrishna
ahmednagar
mh
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