Topics in this digest:
1. TTABSNL RPR
From: Sukhjiwan Singh
2a. Re: why
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav
3. China-made handsets face quality scan
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4a. post 2007 friends
From: Amit
4b. Re: post 2007 friends
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4c. Re: post 2007 friends
From: Sandip Solanki
5. Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
6. Fw: [TTABSNL] pay scale for 2007 and onward recruited TTAs.
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA
7. (no subject)
From: Balwinder Mehmi
8a. About TCIL Panafrican project
From: sasi kumara
8b. Re: About TCIL Panafrican project
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
9a. Re: reg TCIL deputation
From: sasi kumara
10. why SNATTA chq keep mum
From: Balwinder Mehmi
11. regarding increment date
From: chaudhari
12. About SNATTA Jalandhar
From: Balwinder Mehmi
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1. TTABSNL RPR
Posted by: "Sukhjiwan Singh" jiwan_268@yahoo.co.in jiwan_268
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))
SANCHAR NIGAM ASSOCIATION OF TELECOM TECHNICAL ASSISTANTs
(Regd. No.-DRFS/152)
MINUTES OF TTAs MEETING HELD ON 27 May 2010 AT OCB
ROOP NAGAR
· Meeting Address by Distt President Sh. Jagtar Singh
· Welcome all TTAs, Guest Rajinder Singh TTA
· Introduction with all TTAs
· Emphasis on unity of SNATTA.
· Restructure of SNATTA Body of Ropar SSA.
Meeting organized for Farewell of Sh. Rajinder Singh X-President SNATTA due to promoted for JAO post. So Following are the Distt. Bodies elected by majority of TTAs present in the meeting. More than 60% of TTAs were present in the meeting. Thanks of all the present TTAs. Please co-operate with elected bodies and provide them confidence of majority & unity so that TTA becomes the Power of Unity in RPR SSA.
Distt. Body Roopnagar
1. Jagtar Singh Distt. President TTA MPR. 94176-48467
2. Sukhjiwan Singh Distt. Secretary TTA (Phones) RPR1 94635-94786
3. Mohinder Mohan Asstt. Distt. Secretary cum Treasurer 9417306813
4. Sapna Executive Member RPR-1 9463941945
5. Sandeep Kumar Executive Member RPR-2 01881201228
6. Jasbir Singh Executive Member MDA 9464521700
7. Pramod Kaushal Executive Member APS 9463270458
From: TTA SNATTA Body Roop Nagar
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2a. Re: why
Posted by: "Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav" yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in yadavashishkumarbsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:07 pm ((PDT))
dearmurlidharan,
your points raised regarding BSNLEU ARE absolutely true .I will specially steress point no 5 raised by you :-MOST OF TTAS POSTING THEIR VIEWS ARE OFFICE BEARERS OF YOU AND ARE speaking in same manner as bsnleu it is very disgusting .the RIGHT WAY IS THAT FISTRLY WE ARE SNATTINS SO WE SHOULD COME ON SAME PLATEFORM TO SAVE THE RIGHTS OF OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS WHO ARE MOST QUALIFIED ,HARDWORKING&FUTURE OF BSNL.
WITHREGARDS ASHISHKUMARSNATTIAN
JALANDHARCIY
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3. China-made handsets face quality scan
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:34 pm ((PDT))
*China-made handsets face quality scan*
Mobile handsets assembled in China but sold in India under local brand names
will have to *undergo a security drill for spyware and safety check for
radiation.*
Intelligence agencies have raised a security alarm over Chinese telecom
equipment, while consumer groups have *repeatedly warned about radiation.*
Over the last two years the country has been flooded with *cheap Chinese
handsets sold under Indian brands such as Zen Mobile, Micromax, Karbonn,
Intex and Simoco.*
According to an industry player, the low-cost material and software used in
these handsets raise "quality issues", which the government wants to
address.
"The government is looking at issuing a certificate for local vendors on the
lines of the CE certification in Europe," Vaibhav Shastri, CEO of Zen
Mobile, told *The Telegraph*.
In Europe, the CE marking certifies that a product has met the EU consumer
safety, health and environmental norms.
Global handset vendors such as Nokia, Samsung and Motorola have CE marking,
which is accepted in India as the mark of a high-quality product.
However, homegrown brands do not opt for CE certification as it is expensive
and not mandatory, industry players said.
According to officials, *the certification will ensure that the handsets are
not infected by spywares or viruses, have unique identification numbers and
keep radiation at a medically acceptable level.*
The telecom department's technical arm — Telecom Engineering Centre — will
undertake this project.
There are around 90-95 Indian brands selling over 50-60 lakh low-cost
handsets per month, giving tough competition to global vendors in terms of
prices, features, models and services.
The phones have become very popular in the country's hinterlands and smaller
cities.
According to research firm IDC, homegrown firms that entered the market in
early 2008 have captured a 17.5 per cent share of the 100-million market at
the end of 2009 from a meagre 0.9 per cent at the end of March 2008.
The government is setting up a telecom testing and security certification
centre, where all equipment will be scanned.
Security agencies are concerned that some vendors may infiltrate telecom
networks through remote log-in facilities and spyware.
Finance minister Pranab Mukherjee had allotted resources in the budget to
set up the testing centre, modelled along the lines of the China Information
Technology Certification Centre.
Several countries such as the UK and the US use such facilities to bar the
intrusion of external elements in their communication networks.
The CNITSEC operates and maintains national evaluation and certification
scheme for IT and telecom security.
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regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4a. post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Amit" amit.kr_co@yahoo.co.uk amit.kr_co
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:52 pm ((PDT))
everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us known .
as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request our top leaders to address this issue .
following is a letter I got from one of our members
hi
there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs due
to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital issue
which fuels this anger.
actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me maze le
rahe hain.
is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne hi
chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq tak
pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
AMIT KUMAR
DIST SECY PATNA
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4b. Re: post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:55 pm ((PDT))
very nice post Amit...
*atleast CHQ should post some sincere msg to the group so that the unrest
prevailing among all new TTAs get cools down a bit*. CHQ should act like big
brother and listen patiently to all.
*we all knew that CHQ tried to get good pay scale for all but could not
reach upto the expectation of all*. No worries.... we all are with CHQ if
they initiate any further action for the betterment of all.
CHQ alone could not do anything until and unless all quarters of SNATTA echo
the same voice.
*i remember CHQ gave call for meeting in Delhi on feb 7, 2010. but only 25%
reached there. Now tell me what a GS or President can do when official
members could not act accordingly and responsibly.
*
bandhan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Amit <amit.kr_co@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
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> everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising
> leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are
> worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us
> known .
>
> as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request
> our top leaders to address this issue .
>
> following is a letter I got from one of our members
>
> hi
> there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs
> due
> to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital
> issue
> which fuels this anger.
>
> actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
> drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me
> maze le
> rahe hain.
>
> is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne
> hi
> chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
>
> circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq
> tak
> pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
>
> AMIT KUMAR
> DIST SECY PATNA
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regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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4c. Re: post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:46 am ((PDT))
Dear B.P. you are right. I think that there is no use of posting a sincere mail in group by CHQ.
Because there is no patience and faith in CHQ now. All are acusing CHQ for not doing anything for TTAs. What is the meaning of Fitment is still not understood.
What all are talking about is To get Higher Salary and the LOGICs behind that are right obviously but to implement that WE SHOULD GET HELP OF LAW.
As it is the issue of 12000 people out of 2.5 lacs, no one is expected for help.
We should approach LAWYER for the matter i think.
Why someone is not trying to approach a LAWYER. Here the help of court gives result for all. When there is no meaning of filing Case, there we have filed a CASE.
Try to approach a Lawyer for the matter....
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440
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From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 May, 2010 11:02:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends
very nice post Amit...
atleast CHQ should post some sincere msg to the group so that the unrest prevailing among all new TTAs get cools down a bit. CHQ should act like big brother and listen patiently to all.
we all knew that CHQ tried to get good pay scale for all but could not reach upto the expectation of all. No worries.... we all are with CHQ if they initiate any further action for the betterment of all.
CHQ alone could not do anything until and unless all quarters of SNATTA echo the same voice.
i remember CHQ gave call for meeting in Delhi on feb 7, 2010. but only 25% reached there. Now tell me what a GS or President can do when official members could not act accordingly and responsibly.
bandhan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Amit <amit.kr_co@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:
>everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us known .
>
>as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request our top leaders to address this issue .
>
>following is a letter I got from one of our members
>
>hi
>there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs due
>to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital issue
>which fuels this anger.
>
>actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
>drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me maze le
>rahe hain.
>
>is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne hi
>chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
>
>circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq tak
>pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
>
>AMIT KUMAR
>DIST SECY PATNA
>
>
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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5. Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:05 pm ((PDT))
*Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!*
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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6. Fw: [TTABSNL] pay scale for 2007 and onward recruited TTAs.
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:05 pm ((PDT))
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 13 September, 2009 1:40:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
Dear Chandan and all,
The pay anamoly that Rishi and Girish have anticipated is not altogether baseless.I think they have a very valid point and we should see that there is no discrimination with new and old TTAs.And goverment has a very little role to play in pay determination of non executives in CPSUs,it just issues a broad guidelines,a frame of rules and policies within which everything has to be finalised with mutual agreement and consent of Union and Management.Beacause,as unionised workers we have a right to negotiate on wages and other industrial disputes ,but the executives are at the mercy of government and DPE as they are just given a chance to be heard but it is finally the report of Committee which after approval of the Govt and DPE is followed in all PSUs.But we are called for agreement
Reagrding the pay anamoly I would like to explain it with some examples:---
In Railways,entry level of JE--------------------rs 5000
after fitment of 1.86 now its --------------------rs 9300(5000*1.86)+ 4200(40 % of 10500,upper limit of the scales which are merged)
5000,5500,(6500-10500) are merged after VI pay comm .
So,now a JE who joined before 1.1.2006(date of revision in govt dept,railways) is getting 9300+4200+da+hra+misc and a JE who joined after 1.1.2006 is also getting same amount ie 9300+4200+da+hra+misc .starting basic is 13500 for both.
Suppose a JE has reached a basic of 5800 in the scale of 5000 with annual increment of rs 200.
then his new basic is 5800*1.86+4200=14988.
We can conclude that the fitment is universal,ie equal at all levels,entry level or even after 4 or 8 years of service the fitment benefit is 1.86.
But in BSNL what happened to JTO pay scale?
It was 9850 pre revised and now its proposed at 18850.(68.2 da neut and just 13 % fitment)
as per the fitment formula 9850 should have been
9850*1.682*1.3-------------rs 21538
(68.2 % da neutralisation and 30% fitment)
this has resulted in a serious pay anamoly.JTO who joined bsefore 1.1.2007 is now placed at rs 21538 but a jto who joined after this date will get just 18850.the difference is almost 3000 in basic alone which is just too much.So with just single day you face a loss of 3000 in basic alone.
So we conclude that the fitment is not equal.If the fitment is 30 % then it should be at all levels,also at entry level.
No one made hue and cry over this initially,even AIGETOA woke up from its sleep very becuase it feared it may lose prospective members .Recently it has riased its voice but that too for 2005 JTOs ,but what about those who have been recruited after 2007,why should they get less fitment.Any way this matter cant be solved by BSNL alone because the pay scale has been approved by DPE and applicable to all CPSUs.
But we are at benefit becuase our scale is yet to be finalised,the wage comm has to ensure that the fitment is universal.If its 68.2 % da neutralisation and 30 % fitment formula then the new scale of TTA should be 7100*1.682*1.3=rs 15524 at the minimum.And its obvious that the TTA s who have served longer years would get benefit by virtue of the length of service,but the fitment would still be the same.
tta joined before 1.1.2007,starting basic --7100 will be revised to 15524
tta joined after 1.1.2007,starting basic --7100 will be revised to 15524
if my basic is 8500 after 7 years of service then new basic--8500*1.682*1.3=rs 18586
But SNATTA is trying its best to get the pay scale upgraded from 7100 to higher scales and we have given justificationsfor that,So,f it happens then the new TTA would be benefitted more then the older ones.
So at the minimum it should be rs 15524 to avoid any kind of anamoly.In other words the fitment formula should be applicable at all stages uniformally.
bye
Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,Jharkhand
9471590026
--- On Sat, 12/9/09, CHANDAN KUMAR SAMAL <chandan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>From: CHANDAN KUMAR SAMAL <chandan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, 12 September, 2009, 1:41 AM
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>Hi
>Rishi & Girish
>Pay commission sits in every 10 years. Don't you think that those who joined 20/30 years back must have seen few wage revisions also. there pay was last time revised in 1997. At that time also these things must have happened. Those who joined after 1.1. 1997 must be at a disadvantage/ Advantage than the others who were rectted earlier than 1.1.1997. That's what sandip was trying to make u understand.
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>So dear, it is the Govt that takes decisions as to who should get how much. and Govt takes decisions to be followed, not to be discussed.
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> and u know, the funniest thing is that u people have anticipated a problem and want SNATTA to speak for u. PLEASE have a little patience. who knows 2007 rectted TTAs may be at a advantagous position than 2001 rectted just like it happened in last PRC. Also have a close watch on what happens in the case of 2005 batch JTOs. If there anomoly is solved then yours will also be solved automatically. If there problem remains as it is, then forget SNATTA, even GOD can't speak for u.
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>bye
>Chandan
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From: rishi singh <rishi12353@yahoo. com>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 6:37:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
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>Dear sandip
>
> if service period is under consideration then people who join bsnl(dot) 20 or 30 yrs back n now working in same cadre of TTA ,they sud get double or triple salary compaired to batch 2002.
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>as per govt. rule n tradition revised salary sud be uniform 4 all(cadre wise)....n thats wat arrears matters,who joined early he will got arrears.by the way why ur logic is not applicable to MT recruitment with their pay scale????
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>regards
>rishi
>TTA,bangalore
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>--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
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>>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:37 AM
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>>Dear Girish Kumar,
>>Don't be so exited. We have serve the department for last 7 years and for that we are getting the 30% fitment. You have just entered in to. The revision of scales will decide your benefit. But it will definately not at par with the recruitees before 1.1.2007 and it is ligible. The fitment is the part of service before the wage revision, that is not applicable in 2008 and 2009 batch.
>>There is nothing to think of. We are trying our best for better Revised Scales. Even we have demanded that they should be revised as per the DPE guidlines. Then it will be about 16400/-. Let's see what happens.
>>Don't ever try to mislead someone that there will be injustice to 2008 & 2009 batch. This is the rule.
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>>
>>Er. Sandip Solanki
>>C.C., SNATTA,
>>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>>09429244440
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>>--- On Thu, 10/9/09, Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>From: Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>Date: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 8:30 PM
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>>>In this Wage Revision there will not be any benefit for Newly Recruited TTAs, Isn't It ??
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>>>Who will speak for Us ????????
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>>>Wt R the actions taken by SNATTA in this regard ???????
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>>>Gireesh Kumar M
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>>>On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:11 PM, VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo. com> wrote:
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>>>>HI,
>>>> EXPECTED PAY IF IT IS 30% FITMANT
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>>>> TTA 2002 TTA 2008
>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- -
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>>>> OLD PAY SCALE NEW SCALE OF PAY
>>>>BASIC 7100-200-10100 14500-30400( 3% annual inc)
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>>>>TTA 2002 BATCH WILL GET 30% FIT ALONG WITH NEW BASIC AS ON 1-1-2007. IT MAY BE AROUND Rs. 18850+24%DA+ HRA+DIET+ TA. TOTAL EMULANTS AROUND
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>>>> BASIC 18850
>>>> DA 4524
>>>> HRA 1885
>>>> DIET 500
>>>> TA 300
>>>> ------------ -----
>>>> 26059
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>>>>NEW TTA MAY GET NO FIT APPLICABLE FOR NEW JOIN AFTER 1-1-2007
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>>>> basic 14900
>>>> da 3480
>>>> HRA 1490
>>>> DIET 500
>>>> TA 300
>>>> ------------ --------- --
>>>>GROSS 20766
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>>>>THIS IS ONLY APPROXIMATE BUT NEW TTA GET VERY LESS COMPARE TO OLD TTA.
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>>>>BY
>>>>ER. M. RAJESH KUMAR TTA
>>>>CMTS, PALACODE 9443200084
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>>>"..dar ke Aaage Jeeth Hei.."
>>>Gireesh Kumar M
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7. (no subject)
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:16 pm ((PDT))
DEAR DHERAJ PRAJAPATI
We demanded conveyance allowance beneficial to tta & have have rejected present conveyance allowance giving to TTAs.please my dear frind read both attachments.
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8a. About TCIL Panafrican project
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:36 am ((PDT))
hai Bandhan
At present 5 TTA are working in Pan africa project
All the SDE and JTO has returned back to BSNL since no more benefits after hike in salary
this project is implemented in all the 53 African countries
the work is no problem
Transportation is the risky one
No proper medical facilites in Africa
FDA will not be raised by TCIL
i have asked them for special allowance for food!but they refused
Food is the big problem in Africa. 3 USD is not sufficent for food
cost of living is very very high in Africa
i am working in this project for 1.6 years
Planning to quit this year
some countries are very hot (bordering Sahara desert)
some countries having internal wars and problems too
Sasikumara.G
dtssasi@gmail.com
TTA,BSNL,Tamilnadu
+229-98860347
--- On Sun, 30/5/10, bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 7:03 AM
Dear Sasi..!!
first of all thanks for the reply....
but u could not brief me the most striking questions which are coming to the minds of lot of new and old TTAs........ .i.e,
1. hows the working conditions (transportations, accommodation, job-profile etc..) and in-hand salary from TCIL.??
2. Are you satisfied with the overall experience there and how long u have been working there since.??
3. Do you have an idea that how many more TTAs or BSNL Employees are working there.? is this project implemented in ur area only or some other parts of Africa as well.??
4. Have you or any other person taken any initiative to ask them about the non-implementation of FDA rates.?? Have you or anyone ever contacted SNATTA regarding this.?
one last question.. Can we do something (court case, RTI, Union or Executive associations pressure etc..) to get the new Increased Foreign DA rates implemented in TCIL..??
waiting for early and complete reply.
thank you for sparing some time for us.
Bandhan Preet Singh
(Worked with TCIL on Asian Games, 2006 at Doha, Qatar)
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, sasi kumara <dtssasi@...> wrote:
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> Dear Bandhan CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they did nt do.its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
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> --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...> wrote:
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> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
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> pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
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> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
> as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
> Â
> the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
> Â
> if any queries mail to me!
> regds
> sasikumara.G
> +229-98860347
>
> --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
>
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> To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
> Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
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> Hi friends,
> i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
>
>
> In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
> As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below Mail........ ....
>
> Hi there !
> Â
> I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
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> Â
> Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
> Â
> Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
> Â Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
> Â
> regards,
> Rajesh
>
>
> Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
>
>
>
> But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
>
> i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.
>
>
>
> thanks & regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd
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> --
> Think
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> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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> regards,
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> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
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> Think Different... Think Good..!! Â
> Â Â
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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8b. Re: About TCIL Panafrican project
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 am ((PDT))
Dear Sasi...
you have been boon to the expected candidates... hope i have not bothered u
much with so many questions..but i asked them just for the sake of all
especially new Dr.TTAs which are constantly contacting me on this subject...
i think this is the only reason TCIL keep asking for TTAs for the last 4 yrs
and none interested in joining them ;-))
its nice to hear from u again... thanks u very much..!!
regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> hai Bandhan
> At present 5 TTA are working in Pan africa project
> All the SDE and JTO has returned back to BSNL since no more benefits after
> hike in salary
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> this project is implemented in all the 53 African countries
> the work is no problem
> Transportation is the risky one
> No proper medical facilites in Africa
> FDA will not be raised by TCIL
> i have asked them for special allowance for food!but they refused
> Food is the big problem in Africa. 3 USD is not sufficent for food
> cost of living is very very high in Africa
> i am working in this project for 1.6 years
> Planning to quit this year
> some countries are very hot (bordering Sahara desert)
> some countries having internal wars and problems too
>
> Sasikumara.G
> dtssasi@gmail.com
> TTA,BSNL,Tamilnadu
> +229-98860347
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 30/5/10, bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 7:03 AM
>
>
> Dear Sasi..!!
>
> first of all thanks for the reply....
> but u could not brief me the *most striking questions* which are coming to
> the minds of lot of new and old TTAs........ .i.e,
>
> 1. *hows the working conditions (transportations, accommodation,
> job-profile etc..) and in-hand salary from TCIL.??*
>
> *2. Are you satisfied with the overall experience there and how long u
> have been working there since.?? *
>
> 3. Do you have an idea that how many more TTAs or BSNL Employees are
> working there.? is this project implemented in ur area only or some other
> parts of Africa as well.??
>
> 4. Have you or any other person taken any initiative to ask them about the
> non-implementation of FDA rates.?? Have you or anyone ever contacted SNATTA
> regarding this.?
>
> one last question.. *Can we do something (court case, RTI, Union or
> Executive associations pressure etc..) to get the new Increased Foreign DA
> rates implemented in TCIL..??*
>
> waiting for early and complete reply.
>
> *thank you for sparing some time for us.*
>
> *Bandhan Preet Singh*
> *(Worked with TCIL on Asian Games, 2006 at Doha, Qatar)*
>
>
> --- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, sasi kumara <dtssasi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bandhan CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation but TCIL has
> to implement the new revised DA. But they did nt do.its not BSNL who can
> interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
> >
> > --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> > Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> > To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
> >
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> > my dear sasi,
> >
> > pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are
> getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having
> different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL
> employees gets less pay..??
> >
> >
> >
> > bandhan
> >
> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
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> >
> > hai friends
> > i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west
> africa
> > as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD
> (fixed not varying according to country)
> > Â
> > the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in
> the DA rate!
> > Â
> > if any queries mail to me!
> > regds
> > sasikumara.G
> > +229-98860347
> >
> > --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> > Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> >
> >
> > To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
> > Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi friends,
> > i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as
> Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign
> deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his
> third visit in last 1 year.
> >
> >
> > In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
> > As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below
> Mail........ ....
> >
> > Hi there !
> > Â
> > I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to
> country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates.
> For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days
> it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that
> it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every
> country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary
> from country to country.
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are
> accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
> > Â
> > Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d
> revision of salaries!
> > Â Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
> > Â
> > regards,
> > Rajesh
> >
> >
> > Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him
> personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has
> been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive
> now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and
> 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
> >
> > i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The
> above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the
> TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We
> can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last
> time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their
> genuine share.
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks & regards,
> >
> > Bandhan Preet Singh,
> > Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> > BSNL, Mohali, Chd
> >
> > --
> > Think
> > Different... Think Good..!! Â
> > Â Â
> > "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
> >
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> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > Bandhan Preet Singh,
> > Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> > BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
> >
> > Think Different... Think Good..!! Â
> > Â Â
> > "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
> >
>
>
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--
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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9a. Re: reg TCIL deputation
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:37 am ((PDT))
Dear Deepak
Send the application along with your Biodata to TCIL HQ thru proper channel
ensure that the SDE or DE signs your application as "can be relived without reliver"
its TCIL then cheks the application and selects the person
Enough training is also provided by TCIL
dtssasi@gmail.com
+229-98860347
--- On Sun, 30/5/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] reg TCIL deputation
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 8:43 AM
Thanks a lot dear Sasi Kumara
please explain the selection process in detail. is there any pre-deputation training provided by TCIL for respective projects?
Regards
Deepak Kumar
9431610399
From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:55:03 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] reg TCIL deputation [1 Attachment]
hai friends
many of you have send mails to me reg the deputation
i am attaching my deputation order which is issued bt TCIL before starting to Africa
TCIL is having many projects in Middle east and Pan africa
** If you chose middle east project you are put up in a team.
** In Pan africa project you are posted alone in a country. You have to install VSAT and studio equipments and then maintain the installed one!
** The BSNL salary is paided by TCIL. Apart from that 15 USD as FDA for foreign deputation
1. TCIL will provide you accomodation, adequate mess facility.
2. Sufficent furnitures are also provided by TCIL.
3. Food is our responsible. I am getting 3 USD per day for food and the reamining 12 USD is deposited in my india account. 12+3=15 USD.
4. Travel allowance to sites is given by TCIL.The travel is risky one since it is in hired motor bikes.(like Auto rickshaw)
5. No other allowance is given by TCIL.
6. You cannot come back before one year after you travel abroad. If soo you have to pay the To and Fro ticket to TCIL. The ticket has to booked at your cost. For example: My the tciket cost from Delhi to Benin is Rs.98000. If i am quiting before one year i have to pay 98000 and the return ticket is at my cost.
7. LTC cannot be claimed.
8. No Medical allowance. You have to submit the bills and then they pay you.
In Some African countries French is the official language.
if any queries mail me
sasikumara.G
Benin
+229-98860347
--- On Sun, 30/5/10, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 2:52 AM
Dear Bandhan
CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation
but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they didnt do.
its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.
the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
my dear sasi,
pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
bandhan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
hai friends
i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
if any queries mail to me!
regds
sasikumara.G
+229-98860347
--- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
Hi friends,
i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below Mail........ ....
Hi there !
I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
regards,
Rajesh
Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.
thanks & regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd
--
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
--
regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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10. why SNATTA chq keep mum
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:38 am ((PDT))
my dear friends
i agree with mr amit. at present situation when our TTA brothers are accusing SNATTA for pay anomally. There is a war of suggestions on yahoo groups.Why SNATTAs chq has keep silence. i feel that for pay anomally not only bsnleu but also our leadership is more & more responsible.
SNATTA chq must convey what are you doing.
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11. regarding increment date
Posted by: "chaudhari" bhavesh_ec2006@yahoo.co.in bhavesh_ec2006
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:45 am ((PDT))
Hello frds,
i want to know about increment date. whether it is from date of joining or training date.because my training start form 27/04/2009. but in pay slip my increment date 01/07/2010(date of resume). not 01/04/2010.
bhavesh chaudhari
TTA BSNL gujarat
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12. About SNATTA Jalandhar
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:49 am ((PDT))
my dear friends
SNATTA Jalandhar is not bowing in front of bsnleu.the reasons are that we have got transfered 25 TTAs including ashish kumar who was wandring around bsnleu & Executives for his transfer. we got allotment of qtrs even out of terms. AN EXECUTIVE SLAPPED OUR NEW TTA , WHEN JUSTICE WAS NOT DONE BY MANAGEMENT, District body BSNLEU SLAPEED THAT OFFICER. BSNLEU JALANDHAR IS FACING COURT CASE FOR THE SAKE OFF TTAs. DISTRICT SECRETARY BSNLEU SAY THAT ITS NOT SLAP ON THE FACE OF TTA ITS ON THE FACE OS BSNLEU. So when bsnleu listen our every problem & solve them ,its our responsibility to convey them our demands in frindly way.moreover SNATTA Jalandhar taking actions according to its power ,why do not ask SNATTAchq to take solid decisions who has keep mum till now.
IN JOINT MEETING SNATTA JALANDHAR MORE THAN 70 % of TTAs was new ,the common agenda was passed with the consent of all. how someone can say that it is lollypop to new TTAs.
SNATTA JL IS READY TO FOLLOW ANY DECISION DECISION FOR THE SAKE SNATTA TAKEN UNANIMOUSLY BY ALL TTAs WITHOUT WORRING ABOUT THEIR POSTS.
BALWINDER SINGH
DISTRICT PRESIDENT
SNATTA JALANDHAR
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