Sunday, February 21, 2010

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1671

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Fw: [TTABSNL] jto exam
From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN

2. Fw: [TTABSNL] Chhatisgarh CAT Order + Appeal to deposit fund for
From: JASVIR JASSAL

3. Fw: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
From: DINKAR NATH NARAIN

4. PART -2 EVERY BODY MUST READ
From: bs_mo2004

5a. MY not out centuary forces our GMTD to send me message and congratul
From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH
5b. Re: MY not out centuary forces our GMTD to send me message and congr
From: G S Rajawat


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1a. Fw: [TTABSNL] jto exam
Posted by: "DINKAR NATH NARAIN" dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in dnath_2006
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:17 am ((PST))

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 3:27:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam

 
Mr lalit ji
     i read each and every mail posted by you.
each mail given good logic. and i think you have completed almost 7 years in BSNL.  and suppose you miss this opportunity my some months or days.
    due to this case, u think, u become winner and you get opportunity to seat in exam, but these almost after 2-3 years later and that time you will be complete almost 10 years. good na... the why we found SNATTA. without association also it were possible.
    again same things repeated after 3 years, because that time also some were not eligible in next recrutee batches. they also follow same path and again delayed 3 years and same producere is going on endless.
these is good idea to retire as TTA from BSNL.
    i heard that management promised that they will take next exam just after this one and also agreed to 5 years elligiblity.
    agian my best wish for those freind who are not eligible. and try another way except courtcase because this not proper way to achieve goal. you  are not outsider from BSNL as well SNATTA. we are also praying for you becaseu if  you are eligible, definately we are.
    YOU DONT THINK WE ELIGIBLE OPPOSE YOU, BUT OPPOSE DECISION OF COURT CASE.
WHICH IS HARM FUL FOR BOTH ELIGIBLE AND NON ELIGIBLE.
AND UNITY OF ASSOCIATION.

 
-Vaishakh Soni
    B.E.(Electronics)
   9426724484


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From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@ yahoo.co. uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Fri, 19 February, 2010 12:35:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam

 
dear vaishakh soni ji
  why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


>From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
>Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
>To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18
>
>

>the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.
>
>this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
>ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam. 

>If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?  
>
>-Vaishakh Soni
> B.E.(Electronics)
>
>  9426724484
>
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2. Fw: [TTABSNL] Chhatisgarh CAT Order + Appeal to deposit fund for
Posted by: "JASVIR JASSAL" jasvir_jassal@yahoo.com jasvir_jassal
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:18 am ((PST))


 
 
 
 
Dear Manish,
 
                  It is o.k that by court case we become eligible provissionally for examination, it is nothing, but a CUTTING OURS OWN LEGS & TIME WILL PROVE THIS.
 
                                   We have filed ONE CASE & going to file SECOND FROM M.P & THEN SO ON FROM OTHER CIRCLES. As we know that like a MT - EXAMINATION CASE , the management will definately DO THE SAME TREATMENT TO THIS EXAMINATION.WE ARE PLAYING A DOUBLE BATTING ONE FROM THE PLATFORM OF BSNLEU & OTHER THROUGH COURT.
 
                           LET US SEE,WHAT WILL GIVEN BY TIME TO US.
 
 
 
 
WITH REGARDS,
JASVIR JASSAL.
 
 

--- On Sat, 20/2/10, manish <m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: manish <m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Chhatisgarh CAT Order + Appeal to deposit fund for SNATTA side case.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 2:43 AM


 

Hi,

On behalf of OA submitted by Chhatisgarh TTA Shri Sachin Soni, Circle Secretary, SNATTA as main petitioner & other filed a court case at Jabalpur CAT & CAT ordered as

1) Allow the applicants of Chhatisgarh Circle to file their application of candidature before the last date i.e. 22/02/2010 and BSNL should not reject the same without leave of Jabalpur Tribunal.

2) Notice issued to respondent i.e. CMD, Dir HR, CGM CG to submit there reply well before 19/03/2010, the date fixed for further consideration.

"There is a direction by Supreme Court that if eligibility date is not mentioned in RR then it should be counted on last date of receipt of application. "

Before this order no TTA from Chhatishgarh is eligible to fill up the form & if final order is for cut off date as closing date of receipt of application, then all the TTA of chhatishgarh will become eligible.

With present eligibility condition & cut of date as 01.07.2009, eligible DR TTA's are 1200
With cut of date as closing date of form 1800 TTA get benefited & total eligible DR TTA's are around 3000.
With the point of granting extra time in JTO outsider 2008 examination, even after the date of Examination 21.06.2009, the cut of date for acquiring Education Qualification is 31.12.2009 so by the similar ruling we demand 31.12.2010 + 5 years Relaxation provided in JAO internal for service condition, all the ineligible TTA are able to appear in the examination.

In MP circle notification is not issued up to now, as soon as it is notified we challenge the same on the basis of above points as in MP circle TTA's joined up to 31.12.2003 & some in year 2006. Also we request to court for order to be implemented for all India.

First it is decided that SNATTA is also one of the party along with MP + Chhatisgarh TTA's from Chq. side but when it is confirmed from Advocate that once we file name of Association in one court then we are unable to file the case on same matter in any other CAT or Court, so in such situation we change our decision & file the case for Chhatisgarh TTA's only.

This court case will not affect the Exam. For JTO because our prime aim is to allow all first batch TTA's in this promotion examination as all the first bath TTA has equal right to appear in this examination.

The case to be filed by SNATTA Side is pending due to shortage of fund for this court case as the previous fund is reserved for Supreme Court Case. At present 15000/- Rs is deposited by Maharashtra Circle & 9000 by Kerala Circle, MP Circle deposit 15000/- on Monday. So I request all the TTA's to deposit the fund as soon as possible, so we can file the court case well in time.
Your
Manish Samadhiya
President, SNATTA
09425441486

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3. Fw: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
Posted by: "DINKAR NATH NARAIN" dnath_2006@yahoo.co.in dnath_2006
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:16 pm ((PST))

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 February, 2010 8:17:18 AM
Subject: Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

 
hi
i am surprise to know that why a little things are not understand by all the tta.
i am fully agree with the view of sandeep.
Court is not solution. 

Regards:-
G S Rajawat
B S N L ,Tonk,  Rajasthan
INDIA 304021
Cell +91-9413424883
gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in
 

--- On Thu, 18/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>Subject: Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 11:05 AM
>
>

>Yes dear,
>Here where You people misunderstood. ..
>I am in very much consult of my 16 people. And that is why I am opposing Court Case. We have met an Experienced CAT Lawyer ( Consultant of ITSs in Gujarat ). All our people are not in favour of Court Case ( including those ineligible 16 ).
>The thing is that if you oppose the court case that is taken for granted that you are not thinking of ineligibles. This is wrong.
>The Court Case is not the solution as it will not give result early and it will be ultimately 10 years service condition. Then what is the meaning of CONSTRUCTING SNATTA in 2004 and we the witness of Progress of SNATTA are hurt seeing these things...
>Think of Solutions only..
>It is absurd to say that if you don't get tp eat then others should also fast. This is not like samudramanthan. In Samudramanthan Poison was gulped by Lord Shiva and others took amrit. In this situation our national leader should have been like Lord Shiva instead he is making sure that all os us should take Poison only.
>
>Er. Sandip Solanki
>C.C., SNATTA,
>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>09429244440
>
>--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>From: Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com>
>Subject: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Cc: SNATTACHQ@GMIL. COM
>Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 5:41 PM
>

>
>--o,dear
>you are not thinking about your 16 friends who are not eligible.you should not think such type.it is easy to break rather then construct.snatta is the result of hard work by our very very sweet
>beloved and perhaps great leader like dhiraj ,chandan samal and some other.if there is injustice for any tta snatta will raise the isue.this is not plateform to compelete selfishness.
>and my dear friends if by chance you donot get sucess in lice then again you will remeber
>unity of snatta.
>  but that time it may be too late. good bye
>                                                                  NARAYAN RAI
>9451343700 UPEAST




>- On Wed, 2/17/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>
>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 6:12 AM
>

>
>Dear Santosh,
>I understand that Zuber might not know a particular person.
>
>But any logic fails to explain the filing of court case. If one says that the petitioners are asking for only eligibility and not for stay then why the management stayed the MT examm. MT exam petiotioners have also asked for only eligiblity. Management stopped the exam because they can't decide on conducting the exam beacuse due to court cases their situation is now in dilemma. Suppose the exam is conduted and say x number of vacancies are available. now courts have directed to declare the result of the candiates who are eligible and hold back the result of the candidates who are petiotiones. There result will be declared say after 3 years if they win the court case. Now if all the x seats were filled up by the eligible candidates then what will happen to these petiotioners. Management thus have no otion other than staying the JTO exam on this filmsy ground. Otherwise there is no other reason to hold back the MT exam.
>The person in quetion has already been told by his lawyer that it will take atleast 2 years in Court Case. What is the logic behind Court Case then ?
>
>Talking about Drawing Lines.... What if the person says " G.S. and Ex-G.S. and Treasurer are ELIGIBLES and I am not eligible.... ..  " what does it mean ? Not drawing lines ? Do you know that the main petitioner in the Supereme Court and Chandigarh High Court case of diversion has become DRJTO by his hard work. You are raising finger at him. Is this your integrity or your selfishness?
>
>This is the time when Leaders should think like LEADERS and not like PERSON. The Court Case will affect the SOLE AIM OF SNATTA.
>
>Er. Sandip Solanki
>C.C., SNATTA,
>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>09429244440
>
>--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 8:13 AM
>

>
> In that case Zuber you dont know what person Manish is. Pls dont question the integrity of a person like Manish.
>And let us not draw line between eligible and non-eligible. Lets us try that all the mates are able to appear in the exam
>
>regards,
>
>Santosh J. Devadiga.
>9422268970.
>
>From: MohammedZuber Sheikh <mgs_zuber197@ yahoo.co. in>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Sent: Tue, 16 February, 2010 10:24:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
>

>
>BE   ALERT
>
>If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?    THINK  IT  THOUROUGHLY   &  Give  Answers to  your  heart.
>
>This  COurt case   is like  a  hurdle  to  our  Career  growth.  SO  Please   Oppose it  From  the HEART.  
>
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4. PART -2 EVERY BODY MUST READ
Posted by: "bs_mo2004" bs_mo2004@yahoo.com bs_mo2004
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:45 pm ((PST))


Dear Friends

As all you know that the management is having a soft corner
for us and from their side they are always saying that we want to
conduct the LICE regularly as quick as possible.BY GOING TO

COURT AND NEGLECTING THE MANAGEMENT HUMBLE REQUEST REGRDING TO CONDUCT
THE

EXAM ,WE ARE GOING TO LOOSE OUR GOOD REPUTATION IN FRONT OF THE
MANAGEMENT.IF

WE AVOID THE REQUEST OF THE MANAGEMENT AND GO TO THE COURT WHETHER WE
HAVE

THE RIGHTS TO REQUEST THE MANAGEMENT NEXT TIME ? SURELY NO ! AND ALSO
THEY

WILL AVOID US IN MANY SITUTAION, FOR THIS WETHER IT IS RIGHT TO GO TO
THE COURT

FOR EACH DEMAND, THEN THINK WHAT WILL BE OUR FUTURE IN BSNL.

OUR TOTAL LIFE IN BSNL WILL BE SPENT BY THESE TYPE OF COURT CASSES.

THINK IT PLEASE

We had created a association named SNATTA for to arrange a LICE
for JTO as soon as possible but now what we are doing ,we are just
opposing for what we have formed SNATTA.

Coming to the point again I want to ask all my
friends that before taking the decision for going to court for this 7 to
5 yrs relaxation whether you have asked the founder members , taken
their opinion, taken their suggestion!

You people are just forgetting those who are waiting for more
than 8yrs, can you assure me for this 7 to 5 Yrs relaxation if YES then
please try for 4 YRS so that most of us will be eligible .

But try to think in a positive manner let the exam
should start then again we will fight for the relaxation in the coming
session as well as to conduct exam regularly as some of our friends as
all-ready crossed 6Yrs.

THINK ABOUT THE MT RECRUITMENT ,BY DOING THIS TYPE OF
COUR CASSES IT WAS TOTALY STOPPED.

GO WITH SNATTA , GO WITH SNATTA FOUNDATION MOTO , GO FOR ALL

with warm regards

BHABANI SHANKAR MOHAPATRA
ORISSA
9437018881


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5a. MY not out centuary forces our GMTD to send me message and congratul
Posted by: "Er.PRITPAL SINGH" preetparu@yahoo.co.in preetparu
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:50 pm ((PST))

Dear friends
 
Yesterday my wish coming true when i distribute 101 sims in a one day and as a result of my centuary and history created our Worthy GMTD Hoshiarpur send a message on my cell. Friends this is in the continuation of my record breaker achievements that i will share with this group after some time due to busy schedule.Really my achievements forces management to think on TTA cadre they are also hardworker and can lead any job assigned to him with 100 percent success.In our SSA management believe on TTA other than other cadres like commandos.This is the result of our ssa progress and very hard work done by my friends in al fields. Now management think if TTA deputed in any job they will make that job in success.
 
I will send the message to GMTD Hoshiarpur and other officer with below wording. In past after every achievent or Road Show i send message to management but only DGM reply like well done but this time OUR GMTD also. Friends after hard worrking its neccesity for every TTA to project his work on his behalf if we dont do this then credit goes to the other cadres.
 
I WROTE:- IF SACHIN TENDULKAR HITS CENTURY THEN WHY CAN'N I?
                 YES, SIR TODAY I CREATE A HISTORY AND DISTRIBUTE 101 SIMS
                 NOT OUT ON 101 DUE TO BAD LIGHT GAME STOPS.
 
REPLY I GOT:-  GMTD HOSHIARPUR -
Xcellent.Now try to break bradman's record.
DGM HOSHIARPUR:- CONGRATULATIONS EXCELLENT ACHIEVEMENT
 
I THINK MY THIS MESSAGE WILL CHANGE THE TASTE OF THIS GROUP NOW
 
 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
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5b. Re: MY not out centuary forces our GMTD to send me message and congr
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:57 pm ((PST))

this is mail that encourage us about how to work in this time...Dear you set a perfect example ...when these days ttas are busy with cutting our own legs because of eligible and non eligible.....you have set an examples....pls accept my warm wishes for the same.Keep it up

Regards:- G S Rajawat B S N L ,Tonk,  RajasthanINDIA 304021Cell +91-9413424883gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in  

--- On Sun, 21/2/10, Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Er.PRITPAL SINGH <preetparu@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] MY not out centuary forces our GMTD to send me message and congratulates on my cell
To: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 21 February, 2010, 10:22 AM


 





Dear friends
 
Yesterday my wish coming true when i distribute 101 sims in a one day and as a result of my centuary and history created our Worthy GMTD Hoshiarpur send a message on my cell. Friends this is in the continuation of my record breaker achievements that i will share with this group after some time due to busy schedule.Really my achievements forces management to think on TTA cadre they are also hardworker and can lead any job assigned to him with 100 percent success.In our SSA management believe on TTA other than other cadres like commandos.This is the result of our ssa progress and very hard work done by my friends in al fields. Now management think if TTA deputed in any job they will make that job in success.
 
I will send the message to GMTD Hoshiarpur and other officer with below wording. In past after every achievent or Road Show i send message to management but only DGM reply like well done but this time OUR GMTD also. Friends after hard worrking its neccesity for every TTA to project his work on his behalf if we dont do this then credit goes to the other cadres.
 
I WROTE:- IF SACHIN TENDULKAR HITS CENTURY THEN WHY CAN'N I?
                 YES, SIR TODAY I CREATE A HISTORY AND DISTRIBUTE 101 SIMS
                 NOT OUT ON 101 DUE TO BAD LIGHT GAME STOPS.
 
REPLY I GOT:-  GMTD HOSHIARPUR -
Xcellent.Now try to break bradman's record.
DGM HOSHIARPUR:- CONGRATULATIONS EXCELLENT ACHIEVEMENT
 
I THINK MY THIS MESSAGE WILL CHANGE THE TASTE OF THIS GROUP NOW
 
 WITH REGARDS
 Er.PRITPAL SINGH
 DISTT PRESIDENT SNATTA,BSNLEU
 LCM MEMBER HOSHIARPUR
 PUNJAB 09417073556
 
 
preet
 
 



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