Saturday, February 20, 2010

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1669[2 Attachments]

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
From: G S Rajawat

2a. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
From: Manoranjan Shrivastava
2b. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
From: lalit singh
2c. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
From: lalit singh

3. GREAT,SANDIPJI GREAT,
From: Ttagzp

4a. Re: jto exam
From: AMIT SAHU
4b. Re: jto exam
From: asha sharma
4c. Re: jto exam
From: sridhar rama
4d. Re: jto exam
From: vaishakh soni

5. Re: court case not only for manish
From: LALUNAIK Nenavath

6a. EVERY BODY MUST READ
From: bhabani mohapatra

7. GSMPT-AP Circle- Procedure to give connection
From: N N

8a. Re: Fw: Is this punishment for ttas completing 8 years of service?
From: A.K.Pandey

9a. Re: jto lice exam........
From: kalyan kar

10a. is any one interested in mutual tansfer from gwalior ssa to bhopal s
From: pankaj
10b. Re: mutual transfer
From: bijnanranjan maity

11. There can be an extreme for anything
From: pravin masram

12. BRAIN DAMAGING HABITS .........................
From: pravin masram

13. Amazing place to visit''''''''''';;;;;;'''''''''"""',,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: pravin masram

14a. Appeal....Think again before filling court case
From: Umesh Toshniwal
14b. Re: Appeal....Think again before filling court case
From: sridhar rama

15. Fwd:[FFO] How long to paint a feather?
From: vikas thareja

16. Chhatisgarh CAT Order + Appeal to deposit fund for SNATTA side ca
From: manish

17. regarding court case
From: Sevanand Mourya

18. CDMA Reconfigration of recharge vouchers_All SSA Heads
From: Yasin Sindhi


Messages
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1a. Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
Posted by: "G S Rajawat" gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in gcsrajawat
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:30 pm ((PST))

hii am surprise to know that why a little things are not understand by all the tta.i am fully agree with the view of sandeep.Court is not solution. 
Regards:- G S Rajawat B S N L ,Tonk,  RajasthanINDIA 304021Cell +91-9413424883gcsrajawat@yahoo.co.in  

--- On Thu, 18/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 11:05 AM


 





Yes dear,

Here where You people misunderstood. ..

I am in very much consult of my 16 people. And that is why I am opposing Court Case. We have met an Experienced CAT Lawyer ( Consultant of ITSs in Gujarat ). All our people are not in favour of Court Case ( including those ineligible 16 ).

The thing is that if you oppose the court case that is taken for granted that you are not thinking of ineligibles. This is wrong.

The Court Case is not the solution as it will not give result early and it will be ultimately 10 years service condition. Then what is the meaning of CONSTRUCTING SNATTA in 2004 and we the witness of Progress of SNATTA are hurt seeing these things...

Think of Solutions only..

It is absurd to say that if you don't get tp eat then others should also fast. This is not like samudramanthan. In Samudramanthan Poison was gulped by Lord Shiva and others took amrit. In this situation our national leader should have been like Lord Shiva instead he is making sure that all os us should take Poison only.

Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com>

Subject: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Cc: SNATTACHQ@GMIL. COM

Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 5:41 PM

 

--o,dear

you are not thinking about your 16 friends who are not eligible.you should not think such type.it is easy to break rather then construct.snatta is the result of hard work by our very very sweet

beloved and perhaps great leader like dhiraj ,chandan samal and some other.if there is injustice for any tta snatta will raise the isue.this is not plateform to compelete selfishness.

and my dear friends if by chance you donot get sucess in lice then again you will remeber

unity of snatta.

  but that time it may be too late. good bye

                                                                  NARAYAN RAI

9451343700 UPEAST

 

 

 

 

- On Wed, 2/17/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in>

Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 6:12 AM

 

Dear Santosh,

I understand that Zuber might not know a particular person.

But any logic fails to explain the filing of court case. If one says that the petitioners are asking for only eligibility and not for stay then why the management stayed the MT examm. MT exam petiotioners have also asked for only eligiblity. Management stopped the exam because they can't decide on conducting the exam beacuse due to court cases their situation is now in dilemma. Suppose the exam is conduted and say x number of vacancies are available. now courts have directed to declare the result of the candiates who are eligible and hold back the result of the candidates who are petiotiones. There result will be declared say after 3 years if they win the court case. Now if all the x seats were filled up by the eligible candidates then what will happen to these petiotioners. Management thus have no otion other than staying the JTO exam on this filmsy ground. Otherwise there is no other reason to hold back the MT exam.

The person in quetion has already been told by his lawyer that it will take atleast 2 years in Court Case. What is the logic behind Court Case then ?

Talking about Drawing Lines.... What if the person says " G.S. and Ex-G.S. and Treasurer are ELIGIBLES and I am not eligible.... ..  " what does it mean ? Not drawing lines ? Do you know that the main petitioner in the Supereme Court and Chandigarh High Court case of diversion has become DRJTO by his hard work. You are raising finger at him. Is this your integrity or your selfishness?

This is the time when Leaders should think like LEADERS and not like PERSON. The Court Case will affect the SOLE AIM OF SNATTA.

Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 8:13 AM

 

 In that case Zuber you dont know what person Manish is. Pls dont question the integrity of a person like Manish.

And let us not draw line between eligible and non-eligible. Lets us try that all the mates are able to appear in the exam

regards,

Santosh J. Devadiga.

9422268970.

From: MohammedZuber Sheikh <mgs_zuber197@ yahoo.co. in>

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Tue, 16 February, 2010 10:24:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

 

BE   ALERT

If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?    THINK  IT  THOUROUGHLY   &  Give  Answers to  your  heart.

This  COurt case   is like  a  hurdle  to  our  Career  growth.  SO  Please   Oppose it  From  the HEART.  

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2a. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
Posted by: "Manoranjan Shrivastava" m_9430923355@yahoo.co.in m_9430923355
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:33 pm ((PST))

dear friends,
this is a time of keeping our head above our heart.
SNATTA is almost near to its goal i.e. by making the management agree to take the  JTO LICE. dear friends, what ever will be the cut off date- some of our tta friends will still remain ineligible. the said court case will only put the ball back into the hands of  management, and our  6 years long fight will remain unfruitful.
thus this is a kind request to all eligible and ineligible TTAs to remain calm and to let the exam happen. SNATTA should put pressure on management to take LICE yearly rather to create a situation of LICE not to take place.
 
 
manoranjan shrivastava
9430923355


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2b. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:35 pm ((PST))

Sir
  If here just we people want to safeguard our interest and have no interest to pull any ones leg but definitely every action has some good as well as bad effects, but think our previous attempt also harm some one but now as court justified our attempt it is acceptable for all and those who were unsatisfied they r in supreme court. similarly here we applied for the tta entrance in year 2000 along with all of u but because of the administrative delay we got appointment in year 2003  and it is against the law of equality provided by our constitution. so pl wait for the court judgment and do not impose your own judgment.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 21:19

 





Dear Lalit ji
The case of diversion quota can not be compared with our case. As it had blocked our career till 2014. And they were promoted against subsequent internal quota which was illegal as per court orders too.
Dear first of all just clear the basis of going to the court. We r hearing from every corner that we will go to court but on what ground no one is telling. As I have contacted my legal friend on this issue, they r saying there in not any ground it will just linger the issue.
I think u and some other people r thinking emotionally on this issue. Just think after the court case what will happen, who will be benefited, who will lose, all things in
totality.
Dear as far as selfishness is concerned the same may be said to u too, as we r not doing any thing against u but u r intended to pull our legs.
And in your other mail u have appealed for our support. Does our support guarantees ur success?But ur support guarantees ours.
with best wishesDeepak Kumar9431610399  

From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@ yahoo.co. uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:40:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?

 




Sir
   The same question arises when snatta file a court case against diversion and that time no one come farword to say so because at that time these guys were in the list of ineligible candidates and at that time these people were contributing for the courtcase and etc with present ineligible candidates. Friends now u r saying that the processes must go but at that time management were wrong. Since the formation of bsnl its the first time that management is going to conduct the exam because of the cat decision not on its own or bsnleu or snatta and it is also very clear that after this exam in a lot of circle there will be no vacency for the next exam and without vacency how dir(hr) will be able to conduct the exam.
 It is also very clear that adhoc jtos will not sit silently and will also take some steps for their rights so
ultimately it
is better that we should fight unitedly for the 5 year eligibility which was the sole objectives of the snatta at the time of formation of snatta and if management can change the service condition from 10 year to 7 year after filing the affidavit in cat and dir(hr) have some soft corner for the dr ttas then why he can not change this service condition to 5 year.
  Friend give a second thought to your logics as when we applied for the same post in the same year and the recruitment year is same but because of the management working only few candidates got early posting and rest were faced the pain of unemployed no one come forward  and now if they are taking some steps to safe guard their own rights u people talking selfishly without considering that what ever the snatta is going to do is better for the majority of the snattaians.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e) 

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, G S Rajawat
<gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 18:15

 




Hello friends

I am fully agreed with Mr Sandeep
solanki…. This legal way makes the whole process so much difficult that nobody
get benefited at all… every court case in history show that it linger the
process… and we cant hope for the better in coming 3-4 years…. And those who
are this time not eligible for the exams are automatically eligible for the exams
and at that time they have not found them slave to fight the exams as at time
some other cadre like TM who is BSC or MSC may go the CAT/./////and the process
is again linger on… I mean to say If management already said that they are
planning for the service condition for 5 year than for whom we are fighting…
why we are ruin our future aspect and to whom we are fighting…..

I am totally disagree with the CHQ
decision.. I am against the case. Some time later management may say that only
BE people are allowed to fight…..or some other issue...

 

I am here on this platform want to
say that we are stand here and every time the scenario is changed.. and at that
time we missed this opportunity.

 

So think calmly and not go for the
case.

This makes the whole process so much
idle that we found this no more useful at time.

.

And one thing more that in next
exams when management reduced the 5 years ….at that time people who are less
than 5 years service may beg to reduced the same thing.. oh shit…again
ridiculous….

We are most educated and most learnt
people in group C & D than we should behave like this..

Rest is up to you…but if the court
case make the hindrance in the way of eligible ones….than its not tolerated at
all…. We already found ourselves so much vanished than why we take so step.

Think again.

Best of luck.

 
Regards:- G S Rajawat B S N L ,Tonk,  RajasthanINDIA 304021Cell +91-9413424883gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in  

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
To: "Group" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 5:01 PM


 




I appeal all DRTTAs to see in the matter seriously. We will not let this chance go away.

Dear CHQ,

I hereby draw your attention to following points in regard to JTO-LICE :

1. It is to be conducted first time for DRTTAs.

2. It is the sole aim of SNATTA to remove the hurdle in the career progression of DR-TTAs.

3. It is the case where more than 1300 TTAs are eligible to give the exam.

Now regarding the court case :

1. The Lawyers are saying that it will take minimum 2 to 3 years in judgement. Then what is the meaning of Court case ? During these two years all non-eligibles will be eligible with no modification in RR also.

3. If because of court case, exam will be held then what about the eligibles ? why should they suffer more 2-3 years ?

Dir (HR) has principally agreed to permanently reduce the service condition to 5 years in presence of our President and G.S. on 08.02.2010. He also agreed to take the exam immediately after this exam is completed. The argument that this exam will be last and there will no no other exam because since last 10 years no exam has been conducted. This itself suggests that management want the qualified DRTTAs only to become JTO otherwise there were Sr TOAs (4000) eligible to sit in the exam. why not management conducted the exam then?

Heart of the matter CHQ or any other circles should not decide to file a court case, otherwise there will be a drastic situation. The exam will be stayed even if the case is filed to make all of us eligible. The fresh example of MT exam is in our view. There are 15 cases filed by variuos parties includuing DRTTAs and none of them has asked for stay. But BSNL has stopped the exam indeifintely.

Filing even a single court case will give management an upper hand over the issue as it is subjudice. Even offcg. JTOs can claim that if the same people who have filed court case against diversion then can be given relaxation by court then why in there case the diversion cannot be allowed as they have already cleared the JTO Exam. Imagine the situation there will be no vacanies left for us as they are 6000 in numbers.

So i again request the main leaders to stop the legal way.

Er. Sandip Solanki

9429244440

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2c. Re: WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
Posted by: "lalit singh" lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk lalitbsingh
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:03 am ((PST))

Dear Sandeep Ji
  I couldn't understand what u wnat to say as always some people will be ineligible what ever be the service condition it is 5 year ,7 year or 10 year. But most vital question is what must be this service condition and if u review bsnl or pro bsnl histry it was 5 year for Degree holders and 6 year for high school or matriculation in year 1999 and after jto rr 2001 it was 10 year though the educational qualification was increased from high school to B.Sc. which was amended to 7 year as it is now. So this 10 or 7 year is justified and if not then it is non sence to say that If Service Condition is 5 years, then also some candidates are non-eligible.
regards
Lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 11:48

 





Dear Lalit,

I appreciate that you are the one who have representated the situation like an SNATTian. Thanks...

Friend.. Vacancies will be there... Management doesn't want Sr.TOAs as JTOs. Another thing is in the Main Issues of SNATTA was :

" To Conduct JTO-LICE with 5 years service condition ". If Service Condition is 5 years, then also some candidates are non-eligible. What to do then ?

Er. Sandip Solanki

C.C., SNATTA,

Rajkot - GUJARAT

09429244440

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, lalit singh <lalitbsingh@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@ yahoo.co. uk>

Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 10:40 PM

 

Sir

   The same question arises when snatta file a court case against diversion and that time no one come farword to say so because at that time these guys were in the list of ineligible candidates and at that time these people were contributing for the courtcase and etc with present ineligible candidates. Friends now u r saying that the processes must go but at that time management were wrong. Since the formation of bsnl its the first time that management is going to conduct the exam because of the cat decision not on its own or bsnleu or snatta and it is also very clear that after this exam in a lot of circle there will be no vacency for the next exam and without vacency how dir(hr) will be able to conduct the exam.

 It is also very clear that adhoc jtos will not sit silently and will also take some steps for their rights so ultimately it is better that we should fight unitedly for the 5 year eligibility which was the sole objectives of the snatta at the time of formation of snatta and if management can change the service condition from 10 year to 7 year after filing the affidavit in cat and dir(hr) have some soft corner for the dr ttas then why he can not change this service condition to 5 year.

  Friend give a second thought to your logics as when we applied for the same post in the same year and the recruitment year is same but because of the management working only few candidates got early posting and rest were faced the pain of unemployed no one come forward  and now if they are taking some steps to safe guard their own rights u people talking selfishly without considering that what ever the snatta is going to do is better for the majority of the snattaians.

regards

lalit singh

cs up(e) 

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@ yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: G S Rajawat <gcsrajawat@ yahoo. co.in>

Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?

To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com

Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 18:15

 

Hello friends

I am fully agreed with Mr Sandeep solanki…. This legal way makes the whole process so much difficult that nobody get benefited at all… every court case in history show that it linger the process… and we cant hope for the better in coming 3-4 years…. And those who are this time not eligible for the exams are automatically eligible for the exams and at that time they have not found them slave to fight the exams as at time some other cadre like TM who is BSC or MSC may go the CAT/./////and the process is again linger on… I mean to say If management already said that they are planning for the service condition for 5 year than for whom we are fighting… why we are ruin our future aspect and to whom we are fighting…..

I am totally disagree with the CHQ decision.. I am against the case. Some time later management may say that only BE people are allowed to fight…..or some other issue...

 

I am here on this platform want to say that we are stand here and every time the scenario is changed.. and at that time we missed this opportunity.

 

So think calmly and not go for the case.

This makes the whole process so much idle that we found this no more useful at time.

.

And one thing more that in next exams when management reduced the 5 years ….at that time people who are less than 5 years service may beg to reduced the same thing.. oh shit…again ridiculous….

We are most educated and most learnt people in group C & D than we should behave like this..

Rest is up to you…but if the court case make the hindrance in the way of eligible ones….than its not tolerated at all…. We already found ourselves so much vanished than why we take so step.

Think again.

Best of luck.

 

Regards:-

G S Rajawat

B S N L ,Tonk,  Rajasthan

INDIA 304021

Cell +91-9413424883

gcsrajawat@yahoo. co.in

 

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in>

Subject: [TTABSNL] WHY SHOULD AN "ELIGIBLE" SUFFER ?

To: "Group" <TTABSNL@yahoogroup s .com>

Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

I appeal all DRTTAs to see in the matter seriously. We will not let this chance go away.

Dear CHQ,

I hereby draw your attention to following points in regard to JTO-LICE :

1. It is to be conducted first time for DRTTAs.

2. It is the sole aim of SNATTA to remove the hurdle in the career progression of DR-TTAs.

3. It is the case where more than 1300 TTAs are eligible to give the exam.

Now regarding the court case :

1. The Lawyers are saying that it will take minimum 2 to 3 years in judgement. Then what is the meaning of Court case ? During these two years all non-eligibles will be eligible with no modification in RR also.

3. If because of court case, exam will be held then what about the eligibles ? why should they suffer more 2-3 years ?

Dir (HR) has principally agreed to permanently reduce the service condition to 5 years in presence of our President and G.S. on 08.02.2010. He also agreed to take the exam immediately after this exam is completed. The argument that this exam will be last and there will no no other exam because since last 10 years no exam has been conducted. This itself suggests that management want the qualified DRTTAs only to become JTO otherwise there were Sr TOAs (4000) eligible to sit in the exam. why not management conducted the exam then?

Heart of the matter CHQ or any other circles should not decide to file a court case, otherwise there will be a drastic situation. The exam will be stayed even if the case is filed to make all of us eligible. The fresh example of MT exam is in our view. There are 15 cases filed by variuos parties includuing DRTTAs and none of them has asked for stay. But BSNL has stopped the exam indeifintely.

Filing even a single court case will give management an upper hand over the issue as it is subjudice. Even offcg. JTOs can claim that if the same people who have filed court case against diversion then can be given relaxation by court then why in there case the diversion cannot be allowed as they have already cleared the JTO Exam. Imagine the situation there will be no vacanies left for us as they are 6000 in numbers.

So i again request the main leaders to stop the legal way.

Er. Sandip Solanki

9429244440

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3. GREAT,SANDIPJI GREAT,
Posted by: "Ttagzp" ttagzp@yahoo.com ttagzp
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:35 pm ((PST))

DEAR SANDIPJI
how much it would have been better to see in history of snatta
that if eligible friends say-that case will be filed and noneligible say that no,we will not file case for you,for unity of snatta,but misfortunate it could not happened due to some excited started to cry.

but great,great your explaination power and nice to see
you have made understand your 16 friends and they understood.
really sir,now i belive in greatness.

you could not sacrifice only some month for them{it seem bsnl have offered chair,chair of jto,come and sit quick,and it seem some eligible
friend have become lawyer to judge court case ground}
but they became ready.really great.there name should be taken.
now pls explain us why we should not go in court?why we should sacrifice but not by you.and dear friend attack on thought of case by democrative way,not rudely and never attack on paticular person.it will
start polraization which is not good for any tta.and again explain us
perhaps we may get power to sacrifice.
waiting your answer eagerly.
YOUR NONELIGIBLE FRIEND-NARAYAN RAI
9451343700,GHAZIPUR,UPEAST


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4a. Re: jto exam
Posted by: "AMIT SAHU" amit_bsnlfkbd@yahoo.co.in amit_bsnlfkbd
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:35 pm ((PST))

Hi friends,
               Lalit ji is abosoultly  correct although we few TTAs are elligble but majority of TTA are not lligable and think one point that in same recuitment year joining of First TTA and Last TTA having different of more than 6 months in many circle including UP(E)  also think  that we are recurited simiulteneously but not elligble due to length of service in future our new DRTTA will also face same problem .All elligble TTA think some point
1. If management noticfication for LDCE is come before 6 month or 9 month u would be elligle?
2. It is not possible to conduct Exam immediately (next year) it will take more than 2 year beacause we have not seen any LDCE exam cotiniously each year in any cader as we know BSNL  Lazy HR managemnet
3 Our CHQ leader is worrious for all DRTTAs not for self so faith them
4.No of vacacies much more with respect to elligibie TTAs in 2010
 
               so my all elligble friends dont take negatively of Mr Manishs Ji decision feel he is really very good hard worker for us,its  OK and justified that u all are elligble and pl  be suuporotive and try to elligble for all TTAs in one recruiting year.
 
 
                                                                              Your -Amit Kumar Sahu-TTA(Mobile)
                                                                               Jhansi

--- On Fri, 19/2/10, lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 February, 2010, 12:35 PM


 

dear vaishakh soni ji
  why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18


 

the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.

this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam. 
 
If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?  

-Vaishakh Soni
 B.E.(Electronics)

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4b. Re: jto exam
Posted by: "asha sharma" brijesh_singh10000@yahoo.com brijesh_singh10000
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 pm ((PST))

its sounds tooo....... negative , yaa i am , lets enjoy the negativity of ours fate , our efforts and offcourse our integrity.

every body is meant for himself and our big boss knows it very well , ok so what to do ?
actually we cant do any thing , oops its not a solution , we must do some thing ,actually i should say i should do some thing . why?
we were never 'we' but always 'i' start from the begining , actually helpless people always think of we.
once upon a time we realise the power of 'we' , every were we roared 'we', 'they ' found sign of power in it so they use very simple technic that i have mentioned earlier 'every body is meant for himself'.

any way we should not loose hope and lets enjoy the negativity of ours fate.

thanking you .
BRIJESH SINGH
TTA CDMA
VADODARA
9408148684

________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 February, 2010 12:35:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam


dear vaishakh soni ji
why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


>From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
>Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
>To: "TTA
> BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18
>
>
>>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>>
>
>the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.
>
>>this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
>>ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam.
>>
>>If Non eligibility happened in case of any other TTA instead of president Manish Samadhya Should the Court Case be filed by SNATTA,CHQ ?
>
>>-Vaishakh Soni
>> B.E.(Electronics)
>
>> 9426724484
>
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4c. Re: jto exam
Posted by: "sridhar rama" sri_wgl007@yahoo.co.in sri_wgl007
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:38 pm ((PST))

dear lalit ji,
 If only few people are not eligible, should all the eligible suffer.everybody will be selfish to achieve what they want.decisions should not be taken emotionally.but wisely.Management has promised to conduct next exam as early as possible, and also to reduce the service condition to 5 yrs.permanently.
Are all the vacancies going to be exhausted at the instance of conducting 1st exam?
By taking legal path, we are indirectly going to complete the service of 10 yr service condition, as it was there.and we are back at STAGE1.
Please refer to MT-exam case what hapenned, pending in different courts, and if we ask about that, management reply is simply Matter is "Subjudice"(pending court decision)
The main goals of formation of snatta was:
1. Conducting LDCE as early as possible
2. Reduce the service condition
everybody should keep in mind those goals, and should not be hindrance/block others before taking any further steps.
 
Sridhar,
WGL-ssa,AP
 
--- On Fri, 19/2/10, lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 February, 2010, 12:35 PM


 

dear vaishakh soni ji
  why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18


 

the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.

this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam. 
 
If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?  

-Vaishakh Soni
 B.E.(Electronics)

  9426724484

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4d. Re: jto exam
Posted by: "vaishakh soni" vaishakhs@yahoo.co.in vaishakhs
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:02 am ((PST))

Mr lalit ji
     i read each and every mail posted by you.
each mail given good logic. and i think you have completed almost 7 years in BSNL.  and suppose you miss this opportunity my some months or days.
    due to this case, u think, u become winner and you get opportunity to seat in exam, but these almost after 2-3 years later and that time you will be complete almost 10 years. good na... the why we found SNATTA. without association also it were possible.
    again same things repeated after 3 years, because that time also some were not eligible in next recrutee batches. they also follow same path and again delayed 3 years and same producere is going on endless.
these is good idea to retire as TTA from BSNL.
    i heard that management promised that they will take next exam just after this one and also agreed to 5 years elligiblity.
    agian my best wish for those freind who are not eligible. and try another way except courtcase because this not proper way to achieve goal. you  are not outsider from BSNL as well SNATTA. we are also praying for you becaseu if  you are eligible, definately we are.
    YOU DONT THINK WE ELIGIBLE OPPOSE YOU, BUT OPPOSE DECISION OF COURT CASE.
WHICH IS HARM FUL FOR BOTH ELIGIBLE AND NON ELIGIBLE.
AND UNITY OF ASSOCIATION.

 
-Vaishakh Soni
    B.E.(Electronics)
   9426724484


________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 February, 2010 12:35:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam

 
dear vaishakh soni ji
  why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


>From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
>Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
>To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
>Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18
>
>

>the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.
>
>this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
>ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam. 

>If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?  
>
>-Vaishakh Soni
> B.E.(Electronics)
>
>  9426724484
>
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5. Re: court case not only for manish
Posted by: "LALUNAIK Nenavath" successlalu@yahoo.com successlalu
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:36 pm ((PST))

dear ranga nath court case is not only for Manish,please understand u and those who are misunderstanding manish,the court case for all ,only 35% of ttas got elegibility remaining 65% of ttas not elegible
why u r thinking about court case that how can u say its time for judgement ,it may come positively within months

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6a. EVERY BODY MUST READ
Posted by: "bhabani mohapatra" bs_mo2004@yahoo.com bs_mo2004
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 pm ((PST))

Dear Lalit
       
         what you have written about Manish that is right, but thing is that what the CEC had decided that matters for those who are waiting since 9Yrs of punishment.Just you think we created a association named SNATTA for to arrange a LICE for JTO as soon as possible but now what we are doing ,we are just opposing for what we have formed SNATTA.
 
                    Coming to the point again I want to ask all my friends that before taking the decision for going to court for this 7 to 5 yrs relaxation whether you have asked the founder members , taken their opinion, taken their suggestion ITS A BIG NO for this question.
 
         You people are just forgetting those who are waiting for more than 8yrs, can you assure me for this 7 to 5 Yrs relaxation if YES then please try for 4 YRS  so that most of us will be eligible .
 
                  But try to think in a positive manner let the exam should start then again we will fight for the relaxation in the coming session as well as to conduct exam regularly as some of  our friends as all-ready crossed 6Yrs.
 
                   Again I want to say PLZ DO NT MISS LEAD OTHERS , BCOZ WE ARE ALSO GUESSING THAT SOME OF US WANT THAT , LIKE DOING THIS TYPE OF MISS GUIDANCE THEY WILL MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE AFTER 6 to 7 MONTHS of making the process delay , ITS TOO BAD
 
 GO WITH SNATTA , GO WITH SNATTA FOUNDATION MOTO , GO FOR ALL
 
with warm regards
 
BHABANI SHANKAR MOHAPATRA
ORISSA
9437018881
 


--- On Fri, 2/19/10, lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 12:35 PM


 

dear vaishakh soni ji
  why r u people targeting mr manish as he is just bearing the responsibility given by the CEC of snatta as on 07th feb in delhi cec decided for the court case and made mr manish as the chairman legal committee to file court case and by targeting mr. manish u people just now showing that your personal eligibility is more valuable than the decision of cec snatta. For association working always any decision will harmful for some one but association will look for the future of masses not for only few people.
regards
lalit singh
cs up(e)

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in> wrote:


From: vaishakh soni <vaishakhs@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] jto exam
To: "TTA BSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 22:18


 

the decision of court case by manish ( chq) will be very unfortunate dicison for SNATTA who are contuneous fighting for one and only one agenda to become JTO in less than time of 10 years. As per 7 years eligilbilty, most of TTAs complted 8 years and due to court case all will be completed more than 10 years. then my question is why we made assosiation, what was need to be unite and fighting for our prime demand.

this is step toward to break unity of SNATTA,
ya this decision definately beneficial to FNTO and NFTE. and they really want same.and their work will be easy because our people ready to help them to linger JTO exam. 
 
If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?  

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 B.E.(Electronics)

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7. GSMPT-AP Circle- Procedure to give connection
Posted by: "N N" nnarendermba@gmail.com nnrhyd
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 pm ((PST))

Hi all,


Recently we received GSMPT Instruments and For each GSMPT offer SIMs with
Rs. 350 talk time per month for 1 year

The procedure to give connection is not known.

If any body issued please mail me or call me


Regards


Narender
9440336565

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8a. Re: Fw: Is this punishment for ttas completing 8 years of service?
Posted by: "A.K.Pandey" akpforms@yahoo.co.uk akpforms
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:39 pm ((PST))

Dear Manoj,
We donn't know  when you guys conducted meeting at bharatpur , whether it was SDCA Level or SSA Level  or Circle Level(Certainly NOT), and decided on behalf of rajasthan tta that  eneligible TTAs  will not take legal help,  first of all i want clear that you guys decided only for yourself , it is not participative decision so there is no binding all rajasthan TTAs and you guys are requested ,not  to  send such email on behalf of Rajasthan TTA until  you are authorised.
Everyday day we are getting similar emails ,DON'T DO COURT CASE , DONT DO COURT CASE and Lessons of sacrifices with example is given everyday like Be Lord Shiva... etc, why we pray to born SAHEED BHAGAT SINGH, SUKHDEV, NETA JI SUBHASH BOSE etc  in others families not in our family , why , why .... ??  any one can do scarifice for anyperson , WHY NOT  all eligible candidates  can withdraw from JTO lice, what will happen.... can management conduct exam ? , NO , then it will be senseless.
Inspite of these why you eligible guys expecting sacrifices from non eligible , do sacrifice first then expect from others.
 
Let all should withdraw from examination for our ALL NON ELIGIBLE SNATTIANS....
 HOW MANY ARE READY FROM ELIGIBLE SIDE ......
 
GUYS CONCENTRATE ON STUDY , TRY HARD FOR GOOD RANK RATHER THAN ABOUT EXAM .... GOD KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN , LIFE IF FULL OF UNCERTAINTIES.
 
AK PANDEY
TTA
SAWAI MADHOPUR - RAJ.

From: MANOJ KUMAR <mnjttuman@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Fw: Is this punishment for ttas completing 8 years of service?
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 20:55


 

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, MANOJ KUMAR <mnjttuman@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MANOJ KUMAR <mnjttuman@yahoo. com>
Subject: Fw: Is this punishment for ttas completing 8 years of service?
To: TTAGROUPS@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 7:00 PM


--- On Wed, 17/2/10, MANOJ KUMAR <mnjttuman@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: MANOJ KUMAR <mnjttuman@yahoo. com>
Subject: Is this punishment for ttas completing 8 years of service?
To: TTAGROUPS@yahoo. com
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 6:58 PM


dear all snattaians, court case should not file, as this will lengthen the procedure for  becomming departmental jto. All the rajasthan ttas not ready to participate the fund for court case. so, dear manish not to make selfish because group president should not be selfish. He should think better for all. I requeted to all circles not to participate this moohim. Fight should be for regular exam after year &year. A meeting of Bharatpur was organised & make unanimously decide not to particapate the fund & support to file court case.                                             


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9a. Re: jto lice exam........
Posted by: "kalyan kar" kalyan_7fru@yahoo.co.in kalyan_7fru
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:39 pm ((PST))

hello
friends
 
lot of debate is going on regarding court case
 
i wanna say that its not a good idea to go to court
 
because
 
"justice delayed is justice denied"
 
n iam  sure that  justice will be denied
 
n remember that iam not eligible for jto lice
 
by going to court we will stagnant the jto lice process 
atleast let us c our good old frnds as jtos
let us not become a hurdle for them
humara  bi no aayega
n do not blame only manish
wy people r targetting manish?
what wrong he has done?
what is the decission taken by cec in newdelhi?
 think before u blame him
its the fault of all cec members
 
 
  

S kalyankar
tta,ndl
+91-9000234484
+91-9493459456
 On Thu, 18/2/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 11:05 AM


 

Yes dear,
Here where You people misunderstood. ..
I am in very much consult of my 16 people. And that is why I am opposing Court Case. We have met an Experienced CAT Lawyer ( Consultant of ITSs in Gujarat ). All our people are not in favour of Court Case ( including those ineligible 16 ).
The thing is that if you oppose the court case that is taken for granted that you are not thinking of ineligibles. This is wrong.
The Court Case is not the solution as it will not give result early and it will be ultimately 10 years service condition. Then what is the meaning of CONSTRUCTING SNATTA in 2004 and we the witness of Progress of SNATTA are hurt seeing these things...
Think of Solutions only..
It is absurd to say that if you don't get tp eat then others should also fast. This is not like samudramanthan. In Samudramanthan Poison was gulped by Lord Shiva and others took amrit. In this situation our national leader should have been like Lord Shiva instead he is making sure that all os us should take Poison only.

Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Ttagzp Up <ttagzp@yahoo. com>
Subject: jto-lice,Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Cc: SNATTACHQ@GMIL. COM
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 5:41 PM

 

--o,dear
you are not thinking about your 16 friends who are not eligible.you should not think such type.it is easy to break rather then construct.snatta is the result of hard work by our very very sweet
beloved and perhaps great leader like dhiraj ,chandan samal and some other.if there is injustice for any tta snatta will raise the isue.this is not plateform to compelete selfishness.
and my dear friends if by chance you donot get sucess in lice then again you will remeber
unity of snatta.
  but that time it may be too late. good bye
                                                                  NARAYAN RAI
9451343700 UPEAST
 
 
 
 
- On Wed, 2/17/10, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@ yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 6:12 AM

 

Dear Santosh,
I understand that Zuber might not know a particular person.

But any logic fails to explain the filing of court case. If one says that the petitioners are asking for only eligibility and not for stay then why the management stayed the MT examm. MT exam petiotioners have also asked for only eligiblity. Management stopped the exam because they can't decide on conducting the exam beacuse due to court cases their situation is now in dilemma. Suppose the exam is conduted and say x number of vacancies are available. now courts have directed to declare the result of the candiates who are eligible and hold back the result of the candidates who are petiotiones. There result will be declared say after 3 years if they win the court case. Now if all the x seats were filled up by the eligible candidates then what will happen to these petiotioners. Management thus have no otion other than staying the JTO exam on this filmsy ground. Otherwise there is no other reason to hold back the MT exam.
The person in quetion has already been told by his lawyer that it will take atleast 2 years in Court Case. What is the logic behind Court Case then ?

Talking about Drawing Lines.... What if the person says " G.S. and Ex-G.S. and Treasurer are ELIGIBLES and I am not eligible.... ..  " what does it mean ? Not drawing lines ? Do you know that the main petitioner in the Supereme Court and Chandigarh High Court case of diversion has become DRJTO by his hard work. You are raising finger at him. Is this your integrity or your selfishness?

This is the time when Leaders should think like LEADERS and not like PERSON. The Court Case will affect the SOLE AIM OF SNATTA.

Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440

--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Santosh J. Devadiga <sjd_4u@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 8:13 AM

 

 In that case Zuber you dont know what person Manish is. Pls dont question the integrity of a person like Manish.
And let us not draw line between eligible and non-eligible. Lets us try that all the mates are able to appear in the exam

regards,

Santosh J. Devadiga.
9422268970.

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Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] jto lice exam........

 

BE   ALERT

If  Non eligibility happened  in  case  of  any  other  TTA  instead   of  president  Manish  Samadhya  Should  the  Court  Case be  filed by  SNATTA,CHQ  ?    THINK  IT  THOUROUGHLY   &  Give  Answers to  your  heart.

This  COurt case   is like  a  hurdle  to  our  Career  growth.  SO  Please   Oppose it  From  the HEART.  

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10a. is any one interested in mutual tansfer from gwalior ssa to bhopal s
Posted by: "pankaj" pankaj_csbo@yahoo.com pankaj_csbo
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:39 pm ((PST))

hi frnds i'm pankaj pateriya from bhopal ssa.i want mutual transfer from bhopal ssa to gwalior ssa or tikamgarh ssa.if any one interested please call me on 9424490288 or 9165178767.


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10b. Re: mutual transfer
Posted by: "bijnanranjan maity" mbijnan@yahoo.co.in mbijnan
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:07 am ((PST))

how many years after i can apply for mutual tranfer. and what is the procedure??????? plz tell me

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11. There can be an extreme for anything
Posted by: "pravin masram" pravin_j_masram@yahoo.com pravin_j_masram
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 pm ((PST))

 


There can be an extreme for anything


 

 
Extreme Pleasure


 

 
 
Extreme Timing 

 
Extreme Art 

 
Extreme Relaxation 

 
 
Extreme Strength  

 
 
Extreme Sorrow  

 
Extreme Curiosity 

 
Extreme Anger 

 
 
Extreme Cooperation   

 
 
Extreme Exposure  

 
 
Extreme Usage  

 
 
Extreme Design  

 

 

 


 

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12. BRAIN DAMAGING HABITS .........................
Posted by: "pravin masram" pravin_j_masram@yahoo.com pravin_j_masram
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 pm ((PST))


 


BRAIN DAMAGING HABITS


1. No Breakfast
People who do not take breakfast are going to have a lower blood sugar level.. This leads to an insufficient supply of nutrients to the brain causing brain degeneration.

2 . Overeating=2 0
It causes hardening of the brain arteries, leading to a decrease in mental power.

3. Smoking
It causes multiple brain shrinkage and may lead to Alzheimer disease.

4. High Sugar consumption
Too much sugar will interrupt the absorption of proteins and nutrients causing malnutrition and may interfere with brain development.

5. Air Pollution
The brain is the largest oxygen consumer in our 20 body. Inhaling polluted air decreases the supply of oxygen to the brain, bringing about a decrease in brain efficiency..

6 . Sleep Deprivation
Sleep allows our brain to rest... Long term deprivation from sleep will accelerate the death of brain cells..

7. Head covered while sleeping
Sleeping with the head covered increases the concentration of carbon dioxide and decrease concentration of oxygen that may lead to brain damaging effects.

8. Working your brain during illness
Working hard or studying with sickness may lead to a decrease in effectiveness of the brain as well as damage the brain.

9. Lacking in stimulating thoughts
Thinking is the best way to train our brain, lacking in brain stimulation thoughts may cause brain shrinkage..

10. Talking Rarely
Intellectual conversations will promote the efficiency of the brain

The main causes of liver damage are:

1. Sleeping too late and waking up too late are main cause.

2. Not urinating in the morning.

3 . Too much eating.

4. Skipping breakfast.

5. Consuming too much medication.

6. Consuming too much preservatives, additives, food coloring, and artificial sweetener..

7. Consuming unhealthy cooking oil.
As much as possible reduce cooking oil use when frying, which includes even the best cooking oils like olive oil. Do not consume fried foods when you are tired, except if the body is20very fit.

8. Consuming raw (overly done) foods also add to the burden of liver.
Veggies should be eaten raw or cooked 3-5 parts. Fried veggies should be finished in one sitting, do not store.

We should prevent this without necessarily spending more. We just have to adopt a good daily lifestyle and eating habits. Maintaining good eating habits and time condition are very important for our bodies to absorb and get rid of unnecessary chemicals according to 'schedule.'

The top five cancer-causing foods are:


1... Hot Dogs

Because they are high in nitrates, the Cancer Prevention Coalition advises that children eat no more than 12 hot dogs a month. If you can't live without hot dogs, buy those made without sodium nitrate.


2. Processed meats and Bacon

 

Also high in the same sodium nitrates found in hot dogs, bacon, and other processed meats raise the risk of heart disease. The saturated fat in bacon also contributes to cancer.


3. Doughnuts


Doughnuts are cancer-causing double trouble. First, they are made with white flour, sugar, and hydrogenated oils, then fried at high temperatures. Doughnuts, says Adams , may be the worst food you can possibly eat to raise your risk of cancer.


4. French fries

Like doughnuts, French fries are made with hydrogenated oils and then fried at high temperatures. They also contain cancer- causing acryl amides which occur during the frying process. They should be called cancer fries, not French fries, said Adams .

5. Chips, crackers, and cookies

   

All are usually made with white flour and sugar. Even the ones whose labels claim to be free of trans-fats generally contain small amounts of trans-fats.

PASS THIS TO ALL WHOM YOU LOVE & CARE FOR. ............ .. ...

 

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13. Amazing place to visit''''''''''';;;;;;'''''''''"""',,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: "pravin masram" pravin_j_masram@yahoo.com pravin_j_masram
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 pm ((PST))


 

Pulpit Rock is situated in Norway. It's a massive cliff of 1982 feet above Lysefjorden.
There is a trail from the Pulpit Rock lodge through different mountain landscapes, which are splendid.
You can get a gig adrenaline dose too at this height.

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14a. Appeal....Think again before filling court case
Posted by: "Umesh Toshniwal" utoshniwal_04@yahoo.co.in utoshniwal_04
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 pm ((PST))

This is an appeal  purely in the favour of SNATTA /TTA cadre.

Dear All,
As everyone knows the past struggle of SNATTA and its main AIM, how our leaders made efforts to get the same? Now just to remembers the things, the main issue was...
1. Firstly to conduct LICE under 35% quota for JTO promotion.
2. Secondly to reduce the service condition. 
At that time there wasno issue of eligibility or non eligibility...everyone was praying to GOD & supporting our leaders to achieve the same... with the blessing of god & remarkable efforts from our leaders both the issues are now in favour of TTA's. The management are ready to conduct the LICE very shortly in all the circles.This is just like a golden stairs for TTA cadre to steping up themselves to JTO cadre.
 
This is very sad to say that before getting result of above issues, some of our leaders/members are trying to create hurdles for TTA cadre by preparing to file court case..giving justification of non-eligibility.
 
Dear friends we all knows.. what will happen????? if such types of court case arise...we are indirectly doing something in favour of management andmaking ourselves permanently eligible for TTA cadre. This is not a political dialogue...but this the fact which we all have to face and bear in the future.

We were all very happy, when mgmt. was agree to reduce the service cond. from 10 yr. to 7 yr. for LICE.After that due to Hon. Ernakulam CAT decision mgmt. has decided to conduct LICE fot JTO promotion and fixed the cutoff date 1/07/2009. Now this is panic for whole TTA's that some of our friends are not qualifying as per the dead line decided by the Mgmt. but Dear friends for any process there should be a line (cutoff date) which every one has to face in the life and wait for his turn to appear in the same. Without taking it individual...and in the favour of integrity of SNATTA association... it is an appeal to leaders/ members... DON'T go for the court case and support the process of LICE .once this process get starts then every one will find himsef near to JTO promotion very shortly. 
 
Don't close the door of JTO LICE... don't break the integrity of SNATTA association..Don't take such steps which may break our integrity... faith in leaders...and so many things which may takes another decade to form such a powerful  platform.
 
Now this is for  Manish , President, SNATTA & other member who are preparing for court case..
1. Being a President ( A very responsible post), can Manish take the responsibility and give comment on SNATTA website that the court case will not affect the JTO LICE process.
 
2. Being a president , he has to answerable , if any stay from court case make this process far from TTA's reach.
 
3. Mr. manish , what will happen? if any court case result in permanent barrier for JTO LICE. First  you should think as a whole for the betterment of TTA's.
 
4. If still you file the case, what wrong have  done by the around 1500 TTA's , who have already completed 8 yr. of service and waiting for JTO promotion and very much frustated in this cadre without getting a single promotion in this cadre. If anything wrong happen with any TTA due to court case, you should be there to answer.
 
 
 
Umesh Toshniwal
BSNL,Chittorgarh(Raj.)

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14b. Re: Appeal....Think again before filling court case
Posted by: "sridhar rama" sri_wgl007@yahoo.co.in sri_wgl007
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:03 am ((PST))

dear umesh,
 very well said, still there are no other words left out in english or any language to make understand  MANISH & others for avoiding legal path.
 
sridhar
AP

--- On Fri, 19/2/10, Umesh Toshniwal <utoshniwal_04@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Umesh Toshniwal <utoshniwal_04@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Appeal....Think again before filling court case
To: "TTABSNL" <TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 19 February, 2010, 12:08 AM


 


This is an appeal  purely in the favour of SNATTA /TTA cadre.
 
Dear All,
As everyone knows the past struggle of SNATTA and its main AIM, how our leaders made efforts to get the same? Now just to remembers the things, the main issue was...
1. Firstly to conduct LICE under 35% quota for JTO promotion.
2. Secondly to reduce the service condition. 
At that time there was no issue of eligibility or non eligibility...everyone was praying to GOD & supporting our leaders to achieve the same... with the blessing of god & remarkable efforts from our leaders both the issues are now in favour of TTA's. The management are ready to conduct the LICE very shortly in all the circles.This is just like a golden stairs for TTA cadre to steping up themselves to JTO cadre.
 
This is very sad to say that before getting result of above issues, some of our leaders/members are trying to create hurdles for TTA cadre by preparing to file court case..giving justification of non-eligibility.
 
Dear friends we all knows.. what will happen????? if such types of court case arise...we are indirectly doing something in favour of management and making ourselves permanently eligible for TTA cadre. This is not a political dialogue...but this the fact which we all have to face and bear in the future.
 
We were all very happy, when mgmt. was agree to reduce the service cond. from 10 yr. to 7 yr. for LICE.After that due to Hon. Ernakulam CAT decision mgmt. has decided to conduct LICE fot JTO promotion and fixed the cutoff date 1/07/2009. Now this is panic for whole TTA's that some of our friends are not qualifying as per the dead line decided by the Mgmt. but Dear friends for any process there should be a line (cutoff date) which every one has to face in the life and wait for his turn to appear in the same. Without taking it individual.. .and in the favour of integrity of SNATTA association. .. it is an appeal to leaders/ members... DON'T go for the court case and support the process of LICE .once this process get starts then every one will find himsef near to JTO promotion very shortly. 
 
Don't close the door of JTO LICE... don't break the integrity of SNATTA association. .Don't take such steps which may break our integrity... faith in leaders...and so many things which may takes another decade to form such a powerful  platform.
 
Now this is for  Manish , President, SNATTA & other member who are preparing for court case..
1. Being a President ( A very responsible post), can Manish take the responsibility and give comment on SNATTA website that the court case will not affect the JTO LICE process.
 
2. Being a president , he has to answerable , if any stay from court case make this process far from TTA's reach.
 
3. Mr. manish , what will happen? if any court case result in permanent barrier for JTO LICE. First  you should think as a whole for the betterment of TTA's.
 
4. If still you file the case, what wrong have  done by the around 1500 TTA's , who have already completed 8 yr. of service and waiting for JTO promotion and very much frustated in this cadre without getting a single promotion in this cadre. If anything wrong happen with any TTA due to court case, you should be there to answer.
 
 
 
Umesh Toshniwal
BSNL,Chittorgarh( Raj.)


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15. Fwd:[FFO] How long to paint a feather?
Posted by: "vikas thareja" vikasknl1976@yahoo.co.in vikasknl1976
Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 pm ((PST))

From:
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--- On Thu, 18/2/10, vikasknl1976 <vikasknl1976@in.com> wrote:


From: vikasknl1976 <vikasknl1976@in.com>
Subject: Fwd:[FFO] How long to paint a feather?
To: "vikasknl1976" <vikasknl1976@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 1:33 AM


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Date: 17 Feb 10 11:19:37
Subject: [FFO] How long to paint a feather?
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This is amazing! Talk about talent~~~~~~ ~~~

I Wonder How Long It Takes

To Paint a Feather ???


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16. Chhatisgarh CAT Order + Appeal to deposit fund for SNATTA side ca
Posted by: "manish" m_samadhiya@yahoo.co.in m_samadhiya
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:01 am ((PST))

Hi,

On behalf of OA submitted by Chhatisgarh TTA Shri Sachin Soni, Circle Secretary, SNATTA as main petitioner & other filed a court case at Jabalpur CAT & CAT ordered as

1) Allow the applicants of Chhatisgarh Circle to file their application of candidature before the last date i.e. 22/02/2010 and BSNL should not reject the same without leave of Jabalpur Tribunal.

2) Notice issued to respondent i.e. CMD, Dir HR, CGM CG to submit there reply well before 19/03/2010, the date fixed for further consideration.

"There is a direction by Supreme Court that if eligibility date is not mentioned in RR then it should be counted on last date of receipt of application."

Before this order no TTA from Chhatishgarh is eligible to fill up the form & if final order is for cut off date as closing date of receipt of application, then all the TTA of chhatishgarh will become eligible.

With present eligibility condition & cut of date as 01.07.2009, eligible DR TTA's are 1200
With cut of date as closing date of form 1800 TTA get benefited & total eligible DR TTA's are around 3000.
With the point of granting extra time in JTO outsider 2008 examination, even after the date of Examination 21.06.2009, the cut of date for acquiring Education Qualification is 31.12.2009 so by the similar ruling we demand 31.12.2010 + 5 years Relaxation provided in JAO internal for service condition, all the ineligible TTA are able to appear in the examination.

In MP circle notification is not issued up to now, as soon as it is notified we challenge the same on the basis of above points as in MP circle TTA's joined up to 31.12.2003 & some in year 2006. Also we request to court for order to be implemented for all India.

First it is decided that SNATTA is also one of the party along with MP + Chhatisgarh TTA's from Chq. side but when it is confirmed from Advocate that once we file name of Association in one court then we are unable to file the case on same matter in any other CAT or Court, so in such situation we change our decision & file the case for Chhatisgarh TTA's only.

This court case will not affect the Exam. For JTO because our prime aim is to allow all first batch TTA's in this promotion examination as all the first bath TTA has equal right to appear in this examination.

The case to be filed by SNATTA Side is pending due to shortage of fund for this court case as the previous fund is reserved for Supreme Court Case. At present 15000/- Rs is deposited by Maharashtra Circle & 9000 by Kerala Circle, MP Circle deposit 15000/- on Monday. So I request all the TTA's to deposit the fund as soon as possible, so we can file the court case well in time.
Your
Manish Samadhiya
President, SNATTA
09425441486

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17. regarding court case
Posted by: "Sevanand Mourya" seva_1975@yahoo.com seva_1975
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:03 am ((PST))

file a court case E1A should be tta.
 
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18. CDMA Reconfigration of recharge vouchers_All SSA Heads
Posted by: "Yasin Sindhi" ygsindhi_mln@yahoo.co.in ygsindhi_mln
Date: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:03 am ((PST))

Hello friends,
New Prepaid recharge voucher are launched for CDMA WLL Prepaid Connection for Gujarat Circle.....
 
Regards,
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BSC-WLL, PALANPUR (N.G.)
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