ttabsnl94: Re: [TTABSNL] they have done all preparation to sell us (bsnl).

Yes Friend You are Right. Everything You written is 100% right..We must think over all these issues and do something extraordinary to change whole these system. and that is only possible when we all be together and be united...may be someoone has to suffer but let's start..future will be ours....

Er. Y.G.Sindhi

TTA, WLL

O/o, GMTD,Palanpur

From: Ajay Giri <ajaygiri_swm@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 17 May, 2009 6:57:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] they have done all preparation to sell us (bsnl).

Let's see the merits and demerits of GOVT PSU & Private

Merits: -

1) Sense of Security

2) Govt name & Support,

3) Big infrastructure and setup

4) Skilled staff and assets.

Demerits: -

1) Due to Govt PSU every one is imposing responsibilities to BSNL which are not profitable and we are bearing loss but we cant discontinue.
For burdens we are Govt when it is time to get fruits we are a company.
For every process we have to take approval from ministry(which supports Ambani & others), Long process in matters like promotion, payscale revision. It is in front of you.
Also when it was time to give arrear of 50% DA Merger long process and ministry gave conditional sanction statting clearly that the govt will not provide any type of funds. It is up to the financial viability of BSNL. SO What kind of Support

Har koi aata hai danda mar kar chala jata hai.
Telecom mnister changed so our tenders cancelled.

2) Useless Protocols: We cant communicate/ report to our top officers, not even to TDM.
What ever the dirty SDO's misfeeds we cant even give an explanation or clarify the matter.
Written communication is more worse,
We cant even apply for anything w/o proper channel and let it take too long time. and some times not even recomended and forwarded.
In Sawai madhopur a TTA applied for Volunteer in RTTC but the application not forwarded by SDE.

3) Corruption: 95 % of the seniorsofficers are making fake bill of expenses. A long chain of commission structure from Top to bottom (Even Group C)
Every one who is getting chance and if compares that the benifit to go to HIS Pocket or BSNL, He chooses . . . . ..
A SDE found in scam of deisel purchase of about 95000. It is in notice of everyone, File is Stopped.

Can It Continue in Private ? ?

4) No work Assesment and
What may happen when it is private:

1) Name may change but we will be. What matters about name.
2) The group taking the BSNL will not be small group.
3) Sense of Security:- Every company needs staff to work and do not make big changes. Now also the staff is short. There are less chance that the employees be removed and if removed there are aggrements done by the unions and Govt and suitable aggrements wiil be made.
It may launch schemes like VRS and many of aged staff will take VRS.

Here a negative point comes In govt as your service increases your reliability increases and in private as your service increeses your burden to the company increeses.
One has to proove himself every year and justify his salary. Which seems easy when we are young and difficult when aged.

4) The infrastructure and assets will be as it is

5) Most Imp:- When a govt/management changes, it makes policies and rules the country/company. the growth of nation/Company depends on the policies and decisions taken.
when private setup will be there it will take decissions which are profitable and in the interest of company.
Many of my friend who are much aware than me are revealing that BSNL ordered this wrong equipment, OLD technology where as private is using this technology etc. etc.
This will not happen.

6) Most Imp:- Do you know the basic difference of working in private and govt.
In private every one runs for responsibility and in Govt every one runs from responsibility.
Just think when every one will run for responsibility what will be the growth.

7) The person giving good results will be rewarded.

8) Corruption may continue but not so open. He will have a fear to be sacked.
So the merits will be there and demerits will be removed.
What happened when Glaxo taken by Heinz, Arsellor my Mittal, Hutch bu Vodafone, Rainbow by MTS.

Due to these Airtel is now have more than 25% of connections.

Further i have many examples against private & in favour of Private.

It depends on thinking of the manangement. Some management have the policy to Grow with the employee and some squeezs the employees.

Just watch and get yourself prepared. Hope for the best and prepare for worst.
Jo hoga achha hoga.

--- On Fri, 15/5/09, ann <anishvargheese@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:

From: ann <anishvargheese@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] they have done all preparation to sell us (bsnl).
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 10:16 AM

DR-TTAs and JTO are fully supporting BSNL. But some are not ready to a fast change. But definitly we need a fast change. Even after 9 years, we are still in a style of a Govt. Department. If we tried to changes as we can, then I am sure, we can make a change.

There is no communication from higher officers to lower level. They like DoT setup. For proper execution of planes, we need proper communication.

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, Ajay Giri <ajaygiri_swm@ ...> wrote:
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> Many a times i had said the thing in casual discussions that BSNL ek bhari poori dukaan hai, our management is wasting the items and throwing away the valuables and looting it. and finlly it will be come to sale. If It had to Private then the earliar it is better. because the one who will takeover the BSNL will get it in sound position and may be he may offer good scale, Monito the performance of persons actually working hard and skill and good increements to the deservings.
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> I remember a shayari and sharing it
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> Gamon ki aanch par aansoo ubaal kar dekho,
> Bante hai rang kisi par daal ke dekho,
> Tumhare dil ki chubhan bi jaroor kam hogi,
> Kisi Ke paon se kaanta nikal kar dekho,
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> Something missing, but the para relevant is
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> WOH JISME LOU HAI, AUR UBHREGA VIRODHON SE,
> KISI DIYE PAR ANDHERA UCHHAL KAR DEKHO
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> It does not mean that i wish the BSNL to Sink but if it sinks in bad condition it will be very very bad.
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> I had also worked in private concern for 5-6 years as R&D Er H/W and i remember the days (Good days) and the working style of private companies. Yahan kafi ghutan hui thi ab samjhote karne padte hai.
> In Private kaam hota hai, yahan kaam kam Faltu Khinchtaan jyada hoti hai.
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> Lack of Planning.
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> TDM / other senior pressurising w/o taking care of ground realities.
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> And u r right yahan kisi ka koi talent kaam nahi aa raha hai Talent here i refer to the engineering study.
> good night
> --- On Tue, 12/5/09, asha sharma <brijesh_singh10000 @...> wrote:
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> From: asha sharma <brijesh_singh10000 @...>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] they have done all preparation to sell us (bsnl).
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
> Cc: brijesh_singh10000@ ...
> Date: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009, 7:46 PM
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> all obout 80 % of lower as well as 50% new techno work including (gsm and cdma mobile system ) is given on contract to third party.
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> we have a big pool of intelectualls and skilled work force ( new tta and jto) but then also company empahsize on contract type environment .
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> if the govnt in the centre will form with out the support of left, next five years or less then five will be the sinking time of titanic called bsnl.
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