Topics in this digest:
1. Wi-max
From: shasikanta mutum
2a. regarding Home Unlimited Plan
From: chandandeep singh
2b. Re: regarding Home Unlimited Plan
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
3a. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: Deepak Kumar
3b. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: Devarshi Shukla
3c. Re: reasons of our miseries
From: abhilash v
4a. Re: order copy considering training period as increment-Reg
From: gauravmahajan29
4b. Re: order copy considering training period as increment-Reg
From: amreesh sharma
5. Reg blackberry services
From: Harjit Singh
6. Mutual Transfer from Sangrur SSA to Bathinda SSA (Punjab Circle)
From: gurjeet_808
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1. Wi-max
Posted by: "shasikanta mutum" shasi_mutum@yahoo.com tta_ne2
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:41 am ((PDT))
Hai,
Is there anyone in Sells or Wi-Max section? I want to ask something about Wi-Max CPE and USB modem.
M. Shasikanta
TTA-Mobile,
NE-II Circle, Manipur-SSA
9436023007
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2a. regarding Home Unlimited Plan
Posted by: "chandandeep singh" chand_tiet@yahoo.co.in chand_tiet
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:41 am ((PDT))
Hello friends
Recently in punjab circle BSNL has launched a Special Mobile scheme "Home Unlimited Plan" with unlimited free call facility to one BSNL home landline number .Anybody from a punjab circle ,do reply mea procedure how to make landline number free from a mobile number.
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2b. Re: regarding Home Unlimited Plan
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:42 pm ((PDT))
Officially Procedure regarding Special mobile “Home Unlimited Plan†with unlimited free call facility to one BSNL Home landline number is attached herewith. Please find.
: Sudesh
TTA (Mktg)
Amritsar
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, chandandeep singh <chand_tiet@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: chandandeep singh <chand_tiet@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: TTABSNL regarding Home Unlimited Plan
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 5:34 PM
Hello friends
Recently in punjab circle BSNL has launched a Special Mobile scheme "Home Unlimited Plan" with unlimited free call facility to one BSNL home landline number .Anybody from a punjab circle ,do reply mea procedure how to make landline number free from a mobile number.
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/543461371/item/list
Procedure-Home-unlimited-plan[1].doc
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3a. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:44 am ((PDT))
dear lalit ji
it is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss
the consequences of this.
at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh
(GS) is in doing any thing in our favour? Suppose we support BSNLEU in next
verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our
demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas
r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us. actually
the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
regards
deepak kumar
9431610399
________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
Deepak Ji
In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with
dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the
unions at all levels.
But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and
after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or
dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office
bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like
differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA &
TTA)
2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual
membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any
thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct
for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why
tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist
who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying duffer because u may feel
shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist
a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U
know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are
donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from
the beginning f the SNATTA.
So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the
injustice against TTAs we have to come forward as a union under a single
umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that
how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand
financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions,
create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union
activities.
Thanks
Lalit singh
CS UP(E)
--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
>Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14
>
>
>
>Dear friends
>
>
>As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some
>food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very
>compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
>
>
>The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either
>absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and
>BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians,
>PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised
> union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large
>in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was
>in the hands of Sr TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and
>TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings
>the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated
>with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie
>BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is nil or very few TTAs
>in its district, circle or national bodies.
>
>
>TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500
>scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party,
>NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more
>qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at
>only 5000.
>
>
>After the formation of SNATTA the bold face of TTA was shown to all. The party
>supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created unrest
>in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason
>is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the
>election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they
>will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.
>Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions
>has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres
>interest.
>
>
>
>
>SOLUTION-
> On this platform and others there r many call
>to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i
>disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should
>continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
>of all the unions at all levels.
>
>
>Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
>
>
>Deepak Kumar
>9431610399
>
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3b. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "Devarshi Shukla" shukladevarshi@yahoo.co.in shukladevarshi
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:55 pm ((PDT))
Friends,
I am agree with Mr Deepak .Existing union don’t want to the accept SNATTA in its
any form neither Association nor Union. We are very few in our strength now and
they wants to smash our unity so be unite.
----------
Regards.
Devarshi Shukla
TTA LUDHIANA
________________________________
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 19 October, 2010 6:42:45 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
dear lalit ji
it is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss
the consequences of this.
at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh
(GS) is in doing any thing in our favour? Suppose we support BSNLEU in next
verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our
demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas
r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us. actually
the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
regards
deepak kumar
9431610399
________________________________
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
Deepak Ji
In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with
dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the
unions at all levels.
But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and
after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or
dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office
bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like
differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA &
TTA)
2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual
membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any
thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct
for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why
tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist
who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying duffer because u may feel
shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist
a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U
know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are
donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from
the beginning f the SNATTA.
So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the
injustice against TTAs we have to come forward as a union under a single
umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that
how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand
financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions,
create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union
activities.
Thanks
Lalit singh
CS UP(E)
--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
>Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
>Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14
>
>
>
>Dear friends
>
>
>As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some
>food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very
>compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
>
>
>The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either
>absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and
>BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians,
>PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised
> union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large
>in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was
>in the hands of Sr TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and
>TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings
>the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated
>with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie
>BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is nil or very few TTAs
>in its district, circle or national bodies.
>
>
>TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500
>scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party,
>NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more
>qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at
>only 5000.
>
>
>After the formation of SNATTA the bold face of TTA was shown to all. The party
>supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created unrest
>in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason
>is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the
>election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they
>will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.
>Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions
>has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres
>interest.
>
>
>
>
>SOLUTION-
> On this platform and others there r many call
>to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i
>disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should
>continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts
>of all the unions at all levels.
>
>
>Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
>
>
>Deepak Kumar
>9431610399
>
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3c. Re: reasons of our miseries
Posted by: "abhilash v" abhilash_ok@yahoo.co.in abhilash_ok
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:37 pm ((PDT))
Dear Deepak,
You have written that now NFTE has nearly 48% of membership. Is it a correct figure from the salary subscription basis or just an assumption? If you have clear figure then please do provide it. It will be helpful for us.
yours
Abhilash V
CC,Kerala.
09447700766
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 6:42 PM
dear lalit ji
it is good to hear u. but please give a road map of the struggle and discuss the consequences of this.
at this time u know NFTE has nearly 48% membership but how helpless Mr C Singh (GS) is in doing any thing in our favour? Suppose we support BSNLEU in next verification and it looses the election then why Mr C Singh will raise our demands? and what will be our status from division to national level? your ideas r idealistic one but practically it is not going to do any good to us. actually the time requires some special efforts with force and brain.
regards
deepak kumar
9431610399
From: lalit singh <lalitbsingh@yahoo.co.uk>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 2:39:23 PM
Subject: Re: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
Deepak Ji
In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the unions at all levels.
But i completely disagree with u because of the following reasons
1. If we join diff. union our integrity will be lie with them respectively and after that we will always speak their language in accordance of our like or dislike, work for strengthening those unions because of a responsible office bearer and will attack on mistakes/ lapses/their strategic decisions (like differentiation in NEPP for absorbed and DR employees or same scale to Sr.TOA & TTA)
2.U r saying for dual membership but u know better that because of dual membership a huge amount of fund gone waste as these pity unions r not doing any thing for TTAs (as u also mentioned). This dual membership may be said correct for those office bearer of other union as a extra cost for their post but why tta should waste their hard earned money on the luxury of those duffer unionist who r not doing anything for the employees.(Saying duffer because u may feel shocked after listening that after continuous wining struggle of these unionist a lot of employees are retiring from those post where they were recruited). U know better that SNATTA is also facing fund shortage and what ever fund we are donating in 02 year to these unions we are not able to collect that amount from the beginning f the SNATTA.
So in conclusion i can say that if we r interested to fight against the injustice against TTAs we have to come forward as a union under a single umbrella with single membership by which these union will not be able say that how much no of ttas are in favour of them and unitedly we will stand financially, physically and morally and then can make a pact with these unions, create pressure by asking at least leadership not membership in union activities.
Thanks
Lalit singh
CS UP(E)
--- On Tue, 28/9/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: TTABSNL reasons of our miseries
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Cc: snattachq@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 9:14
Dear friends
As we r going to gather at Goa for national conference, here i am posting some food for thoughts. Looking at the schedule of the program, it will be very compact one with very less time to speak. So i am giving some thoughts here.
The TTA cadre in BSNL is suffering since long due to various reasons either absorbed or direct recruited. Initially there was cadre union in BSNL and BTTU(Bharat Tlecom Technician Union) was representing the cases of Technicians, PIs, RSAs etc pre-restructured cadres. After formation of BSNL, one recognised union policy was adopted. Now other cadres mainly Sr TOAs and TMs were large in numbers while TTAs were very few. The leadership of almost all the union was in the hands of Sr TOAs, but TMs was the main vote bank due to its numbers and TTAs sidelined due to their less numbers. As per my knowledge and understandings the absorbed TTAs joined BSNL Workers Rashtriya Union, which had TMs associated with it, but it too limited to few circles(UP etc). The three major unions ie BSNLEU, NFTE, FNTO was not bothered about TTAs as there is nil or very few TTAs in its district, circle or national bodies.
TTAs suffered due to this set up in 2002 when management was ready to give 5500 scale in place of 4500 as done in other profit making PSUs. Then ruling party, NFTE, demanded same hike for Sr TOAs , giving reasons that Sr TOAS r more qualified (BA, BSc) then TTAs(Diploma). And it forced management to keep it at only 5000.
After the formation of SNATTA the bold face of TTA was shown to all. The party supported by us get majority in all the elections afterwards. It created unrest in the loosing party, but ruling party is taking it casually. Again the reason is same. We r group of hard working people,. We r of the importance only in the election times. They just need our votes to get majority and after that they will care only for Sr TOAs and TMs.
Neither union can do any thing against Sr TOA or TM, WHY? Because all the unions has these cadres in key posts and they will not let anyone to harm these cadres interest.
SOLUTION-
On this platform and others there r many call to dissociate ourselves from all unions and form our separate union. But i disagree. In my view we should be intact as a group in SNATTA and should continue with dual membership with motive of gathering important and key posts of all the unions at all levels.
Looking for a healthy debate at Goa and group.
Deepak Kumar
9431610399
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4a. Re: order copy considering training period as increment-Reg
Posted by: "gauravmahajan29" gauravm29@gmail.com gauravmahajan29
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:44 am ((PDT))
Hello Prasad,
The increment is granted from the Training date. It is there in PB Circle. The letter is very old (2002s or 2003s) but I will try to search and upload the same. However, you can use my HRMS No: as reference to quote the same to the concerned authorities of your unit. It is 200201123.
You can also tell the concerned authorities of your unit to consult the respective staff in PB Circle.
Gaurav
TTA- IT
PKT- PB
09463060050
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, "Prasad.T." <global_pra@...> wrote:
>
> hello,
> Can anyone please upload order copy which has TRAINING PERIOD CONSIDERING FOR INCREMENT.
> T.PRASAD,TTA,BB,KHM,AP
>
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4b. Re: order copy considering training period as increment-Reg
Posted by: "amreesh sharma" amreesh_80@yahoo.com amreesh_80
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:37 pm ((PDT))
Hello Mr. Prasad, You can see the Rule No FR 26 (2) of Swamy's compilation of FRSR part-I in which it is clearly mentioned that w.e.f 01/10/1990, only in case of direct recruites, who are compulsorily required to undergo training before joining, training period is treated as duty for purpose of drawing increment. No letter has been issued in this regard as it is in the Ruling itself.So pl se swamy's FRSR and you will find your answer.
Amreesh SharmaJAOBSNL Civil DivisionLudhiana94170-00023
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, gauravmahajan29 <gauravm29@gmail.com> wrote:
From: gauravmahajan29 <gauravm29@gmail.com>
Subject: TTABSNL Re: order copy considering training period as increment-Reg
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 7:49 PM
Hello Prasad,
The increment is granted from the Training date. It is there in PB Circle. The letter is very old (2002s or 2003s) but I will try to search and upload the same. However, you can use my HRMS No: as reference to quote the same to the concerned authorities of your unit. It is 200201123.
You can also tell the concerned authorities of your unit to consult the respective staff in PB Circle.
Gaurav
TTA- IT
PKT- PB
09463060050
--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, "Prasad.T." <global_pra@...> wrote:
>
> hello,
> Can anyone please upload order copy which has TRAINING PERIOD CONSIDERING FOR INCREMENT.
> T.PRASAD,TTA,BB,KHM,AP
>
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5. Reg blackberry services
Posted by: "Harjit Singh" hgamerules@gmail.com seven_game_rules
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:55 pm ((PDT))
Any1 Plz snd me al d detail abt blackberry service on both prepaid n
postpaid in punjab. Detail reg hw to activate this service on both.
Tariff detail too.
--
Sent from my mobile device
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6. Mutual Transfer from Sangrur SSA to Bathinda SSA (Punjab Circle)
Posted by: "gurjeet_808" gurjeet_808@yahoo.co.in gurjeet_808
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:42 am ((PDT))
If any one interested in mutual transfer from Sangrur SSA to Bathinda SSA please contact me on this mail id
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