Topics in this digest:
1. New Pay Scale OF New TTA's Batch 2008
From: er_sukhwindermalhi
2a. Re: new tta salary of may
From: Rajkumar sengodan
2b. Re: new tta salary of may
From: maheshkumar mahesh
2c. Re: new tta salary of may
From: VENKATESAN RAD
3a. Re: why support BSNLEU
From: Manoj Kumar Kushwaha
4a. Re: DRRTA after 2007 Resignation from BSNLEU
From: santosh
5. why support bsnleu
From: dhiraj Prajapati
6. do something
From: vineeth adolph
7. The recent recruitment(20/07/2009) of TTA in Bihar Circle has also m
From: Priyesh Varghese
8. Prevention of Sinusitis: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
9. Fw: [TTABSNL] Lack of strategy
From: sudesh kumar bhardwaj
10a. Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
From: sasi kumara
11. Demands of SNATTA Jalandhar (PUNJAB)
From: Balwinder Mehmi
12. new fitment formula from bsnl managment/bsnleu
From: vasava fulsinh
13. Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
From: VENKATESAN RAD
14.
From: joykakkayam john
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1. New Pay Scale OF New TTA's Batch 2008
Posted by: "er_sukhwindermalhi" er_sukhwindermalhi@yahoo.co.in er_sukhwindermalhi
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 9:27 am ((PDT))
New Scale is 14440 ( After Two Increments 2009, 2010)
Linemans's who's basic was 6200 or 6300 have almost san\me basic in new scale and a lineman with basic 7300 has new basi 16400+ . What is this ? New Banifit to Newly recruited TTA's ? More Work , Less Pay ?
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2a. Re: new tta salary of may
Posted by: "Rajkumar sengodan" ece.rajkumar@yahoo.com ece.rajkumar
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 9:27 am ((PDT))
dear friends,
Yes its correct the newly joined TTA's are not geting any benefit from the new pay scale. and more over there is nobody to think about us. So lets we all unite together and fight for our demand.
in the last pay scale the basic pay of telephone mechanic starts from 4275-6900 and that of TTA's is 7100-13000. But now
Basic of TM : 9000-17000
TTA : 13600-
see the difference,
even groud D's are getting equal pay like us. Pease think............
--- On Sat, 5/29/10, ♥♥Gurmeet♥♥ <imgsd4u@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: ♥♥Gurmeet♥♥ <imgsd4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] new tta salary of may
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 4:32 PM
hello all
i m DRTTA 2008
my salary with old pay scale is
BP 7500
DA 8718
DP 3750
HRA 1095
TOTAL 21063
My salary with new pay scale is
BP 14440
DA 5025
HRA 1444
TOTAL 20909
DIFF -154
what is the benefit of new pay scale for me like tta who join in 2008,2009
Er. Gurmeet Singh Dhaliwal
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
Barnala (Punjab)-148107
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--- On Fri, 28/5/10, sanjeev kathuria <sanjeev_kathuria05@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: sanjeev kathuria <sanjeev_kathuria05@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] new tta salary of may
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 11:04 PM
Hi to all
Same is the case with 2008 batch recruitees.. .my month of increment is may...so as per old pay scale, i would have got Rs.400-500 increment... but with new pay (revised pay) my basic is Rs.14440... but overall my salary is same as that for the last month of april salary...even EPF deducted is only Rs.2 more than the last month EPF....it means i have got no profit n no loss because of my present year increment... .salary is reduced as such for 2008 n later batches..thanks to union.
pls dont take it as a personal remarks...i am just telling u the actual fact wich u can verify from any TTA salary slip.
Regards to All
SANJEEV KATHURIA
--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] new tta salary of may
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:09 PM
Friends
My salary for APR 2010 without HRA is 19,861
that of MAY 2010 after revision is 19,355
Loss of Rs 506/-
We, New TTAs r very lucky.....
Thanx to BSNLEU and Hakkam Singh...
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM, pankaj saner <pankaj.saner@ yahoo.com> wrote:
hi friend,
my may 2010 salary is
basic 14010
da 4875
total 18885
my april 2010 salary is
basic 7300
da 8486
dp 3650
total 19436
after wage revision my salary is less Rs.551.
no personal pay added.
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"..dar ke Aaage Jeeth Hei.."
Gireesh Kumar M
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2b. Re: new tta salary of may
Posted by: "maheshkumar mahesh" mahesh.naroju@gmail.com mahesh.naroju
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 12:40 am ((PDT))
Friends
My salary for APR 2010 without HRA is 19,861
that of MAY 2010 after revision is 19,355
*Loss of Rs 506/-*
We, New TTAs r very lucky.....
*Thanx to BSNLEU and Hakkam Singh...*
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@gmail.com>wrote:
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> Friends
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> My salary for APR 2010 without HRA is 19,861
> that of MAY 2010 after revision is 19,355
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> *Loss of Rs 506/-*
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> We, New TTAs r very lucky.....
> *Thanx to BSNLEU and Hakkam Singh...*
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> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM, pankaj saner <pankaj.saner@yahoo.com>wrote:
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>> hi friend,
>> my may 2010 salary is
>> basic 14010
>> da 4875
>> total 18885
>> my april 2010 salary is
>> basic 7300
>> da 8486
>> dp 3650
>> total 19436
>> after wage revision my salary is less Rs.551.
>> no personal pay added.
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> "..dar ke Aaage Jeeth Hei.."
> Gireesh Kumar M
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2c. Re: new tta salary of may
Posted by: "VENKATESAN RAD" venk212@yahoo.com venk212
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 1:54 am ((PDT))
HI
since the personal pay is only applicable on date of joining the difference of basic+dp+da in pre revised and Basic+Da revised. our date of joining is agust 2008 by that time our Basic+DA+DP is less than revised pay of BASic+DA. we got 600 pay arrear. after December 2009 onwards we lost our pay. Hence we are not eligible for pay protection said by the Management side( but it is illegal & injustice we have to fight against these illegal activities imposed by Management)/
rajesh kumar
9443200084
--- On Sun, 5/30/10, maheshkumar mahesh <mahesh.naroju@gmail.com> wrote:
From: maheshkumar mahesh <mahesh.naroju@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] new tta salary of may
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 11:38 AM
Friends
My salary for APR 2010 without HRA is 19,861
that of MAY 2010 after revision is 19,355
Loss of Rs 506/-
We, New TTAs r very lucky.....
Thanx to BSNLEU and Hakkam Singh...
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends
My salary for APR 2010 without HRA is 19,861
that of MAY 2010 after revision is 19,355
Loss of Rs 506/-
We, New TTAs r very lucky.....
Thanx to BSNLEU and Hakkam Singh...
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM, pankaj saner <pankaj.saner@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi friend,
my may 2010 salary is
basic 14010
da 4875
total 18885
my april 2010 salary is
basic 7300
da 8486
dp 3650
total 19436
after wage revision my salary is less Rs.551.
no personal pay added.
--
"..dar ke Aaage Jeeth Hei.."
Gireesh Kumar M
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3a. Re: why support BSNLEU
Posted by: "Manoj Kumar Kushwaha" manojkumar_bsnl@yahoo.com manojkumar_bsnl
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))
dear,we all with you
Thanks With Regards -
From -
Manoj Kumar Kushwaha
TTA (Comp.)O/o GMTD
BSNL,Kanpur-01
Mobile-919453537568
--- On Sat, 29/5/10, Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav <yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav <yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] why support BSNLEU
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 2:21 AM
dear, dheeraj your comments are good that clerk union never talk matters related to TTAS bsnleu always looking TTA CADER as their vote bank but they are not aware the power of SNATTIANS.
withregards ASHISHYADAV
JALANDHARCITY
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4a. Re: DRRTA after 2007 Resignation from BSNLEU
Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 9:45 am ((PDT))
it was well known that salary of new TTA's will be defenetly decrease approx. 6 months ago................
in my circle CALCUTTA TELEPHONES DISTRICT, approx. all TTA's are resigned from BSNLEU in DEC 2009 to put pressure on BSNLEU...........rest will resign in JUNE month................
wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5. why support bsnleu
Posted by: "dhiraj Prajapati" bsnl1977@yahoo.in bsnl1977
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 7:03 pm ((PDT))
hi all TTA"S
first i tell all you that BSNL is purely technical PSU and my thought personally that only two cadre which is earned for BSNL is TTA & PM and other cadre enjoy with there earning so why ignore to this cadre in every field. it is my personal thought that SNATTA is only a association which not involve direct in union election.it can support only and use as a vote bank only.
JAGO TECHNICAL CADRE EK HO KAR NAYI UNION KA NIRMAN KARO (WITH PM) VARNA IS THERHA HI APNA SOSAN KARVATE RAHO..........
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6. do something
Posted by: "vineeth adolph" vineethadolph@gmail.com vineethadolph
Date: Sat May 29, 2010 9:21 pm ((PDT))
hi friends
Do something before its too late. In our state(kerala) we decided
to give representation through GM first. So we are drafting representation
district wise and combining it to make a common representation. Also support
from unions will be helpful. So approach other unions first(FNTO and all).
If they support, EU will also be forced to do the same. Here there is no
UNION's among us only fight against injustice. So everyone unite. Please.
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Vineeth Adolph
Telecom Technical Assistant
(WiMax Project,Alleppey)
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited
(A Govt. Of India Enterprise)
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7. The recent recruitment(20/07/2009) of TTA in Bihar Circle has also m
Posted by: "Priyesh Varghese" mail2priyesh@gmail.com priyeshvarghese
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 12:41 am ((PDT))
The recent recruitment of TTA in Bihar Circle has also mentioned that the
pay scale is likely to be revised upwards.
BUT WHERE IS THE UP-GRADATION.............?
notification attached
Regards
Priyesh Varghese
1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/345908078/item/list
Bihar BSNL-TTA.pdf
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8. Prevention of Sinusitis: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 12:46 am ((PDT))
*Prevention of Sinusitis: Health Tip of the Day!*
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regards,
*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different...Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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9. Fw: [TTABSNL] Lack of strategy
Posted by: "sudesh kumar bhardwaj" lucky_bsnl@yahoo.co.in lucky_bsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 1:54 am ((PDT))
Dear Balwinder,
Fully agreed with you. We are also facing the genuine questions of TTAs (Rectt. after 2007) about their wage revision, TTAs of pre 2007 batches about designation change & entry into executive scale & also JTO Test. Ours senior leaders should explain all the matters in proper ways by which we can satisfy ours friends.
: Sudesh Kr. Bhardwaj,
TTA (Mktg)
Amritsar
--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Balwinder Mehmi <balmehmi555@yahoo.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Lack of strategy
To: TTABSNL@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:12 PM
My dear friends
Its my personal view that although our CHQ is very hard worker & wise but it has lack of planning because of which we have the following problems
1. Pay anomally with new TTAs . our GS has written a letter to GS of BSNLEU that is to late & a humble request. At this stage we shoud take solid decision like withdrawn of monthly subscription & so on
(matter of withdrawn of monthly subscription was put up in all india conference at bhopal by s hakam singh CS Punjab but was not passed )
2. Change of designation
Whenever our leadership put the matter of designation change BSNLEU OR Management made a comitte to change the designation of all cadres.Our leadership was unable to force them that designation of all cadres except TTAs are respectful
There are so many other demands of TTAs which are yet not solved, so its the time to take proper decision to get our problems solved
Balwinder singh
SSA Jalandhar
Punjab
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10a. Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 1:58 am ((PDT))
Dear BandhanCDAC and TCIL are also government organisationbut TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they didnt do.its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
my dear sasi,
pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
bandhan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
hai friends
i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
if any queries mail to me!
regds
sasikumara.G
+229-98860347
--- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
Hi friends,
i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below Mail........ ....
Hi there !
I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
regards,
Rajesh
Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.
thanks & regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd
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Think
Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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regards,
Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
Think Different... Think Good..!!
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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11. Demands of SNATTA Jalandhar (PUNJAB)
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 3:38 am ((PDT))
Dear friends,
A joint meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar organised on dated - 30.05.2010 at GM office in the presence of district president SNATTA Jalandhar Balwinder singh . District secretary BSNLEU was chief guest, he said that he is with SNATTA & ensure to refer the demands of SNATTA Jalandhar as attached below to Circle secretary & General secretary of BSNLEU in written.
2 of 2 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/attachments/folder/1319078091/item/list
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Attachment 1.rtf
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12. new fitment formula from bsnl managment/bsnleu
Posted by: "vasava fulsinh" fkvasava@yahoo.co.in fkvasava
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 3:39 am ((PDT))
hi
tta2007+ freinds
this is the new fitment formula /to compansate the lose against new par revision!!!(very very big achivment by bsnleu):
1) close ur personal cell phone- to save mony
2) don't us ur personal vehical/cell phone for deppt purpose
3) work to rule -as old-TTA duty chart assigned , not be smart doing working as duty
of JTO/SDE. do work as TTA only . because we are paying only as TTA, not
for exta-smart working.
4) find out part time job - earn money which is not less than u lost in new pay revision!!
5) get advanced TA
... and ..
...so .. on.
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6) find out new job / oher PSU for ur bright future.
what an idea sir ji...
F.K.VASAVA
TTA -2007+
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13. Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
Posted by: "VENKATESAN RAD" venk212@yahoo.com venk212
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 3:41 am ((PDT))
From
M RAJESH KUMAR
TTA BSS ,
TAMIL NADU.
To
VAN NAMBOOTHRI
President,
BSNLEU.
Dear Mr.VAN NAMBOOTHRI
On behalf of DRTTAs- 2007 & 2008 Batches, I send this letter to inform our strong protest against the weak performance so far done by the BSNLEU in the issues related to pay revision for DRTTA 2007 & 2008 against implementation of 2nd PRC for Non executives. We supported the BSNLEU just because of trusting its strong leadership. We hoped that our Pay scale likely to be revised with higher than pre revised scale which is well represented by its strong leaders. But, now we are really ashamed of the same leadership!
The DRTTA 2007 & 2008 joined in BSNL after 1-1-2007 and before signing of the wage agreement between the recognized union and management. Due to implementation of 2nd PRC for N.E in BSNL on 07-05-2010, Our (DRTTA 2007 & 2008) salary has been reduced and made loses of Rupees Five hundred and fifty one (Rs 551 approx. per month). The BSNLEU made gain to the employees of who are appointed before 1-1-2007 by making the loss to the newly recruited DRTTA 2007-2008 batches. It is like a giving gift to somebody by stealing valuable goods from new persons. The magnificent achievement said by BSNLEU, it is not been extended to DRTTA 2007 08 batches since they have joined after 01-01-2007. But in JTO 2005 batches who are joined on or after 1-1-2007 they got their salary hike with 30% fitment in their basic salary (whatever may be the reason they fought) then why it is not possible to extend same to DRTTA 2007 /08 at least some percentage
of fitment <30% or proportionate bunch of increment in pay fixation in order to avoid the pay loss. It is due to the lack of BSNLEU But the BSNLEU not even given the courtesy on DRTTA 2007-2008. BSNLEU never bother about the issues given by our DRTTA 2007-2008 while during the agitation conducted by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 / 2009. We have participated in the strike called by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 2009, we lost our 2 days salary also. But we never expect this kind of activities of BSNELU.
Whenever we met you, you always had a sweet smile on your noble face. But we never thought that you were cutting our throats with a smiling face. Now you have proved it!. To the ultra joke you have included the demands of contract labours issue in the web site for the interest of CITU & CPIM. It indicates that BSNLEU has some hidden agenda which is beneficial neither to BSNL employees nor BSNL. BSNLEU represents the employees of BSNL and not the contract workers. You were elected as a recognized union of BSNL employees and not the contract workers. We voted for you to represent our issues and not the contract workers. Management has already clarified that this subject is beyond the scope of the recognized union and we, the employees of BSNL, feel that this is none of our business. We all knew that BSNL has already become a sinking ship and struggling for its life among the multinational telecom companies. In this situation, the demands (Merger
of IDA for pensioners, Minimum wages for contract labours, etc,.) put forwarded by the BSNLEU are really astonishing! It seems that you people are thinking how to sink it early by cramming it with unnecessary issues in addition to the existing matters. And, it is worth thinking that more fruits are not getting from a tree having more leaves. If you are not able to solve the genuine matters like our pay reduction in 2nd pay revision of DRTTAs 2007 & 2008, then in what matter you are trying to excel! It is highly ridiculous to your leadership if you are still urging for the beneficiary of outsiders who are working for cleaning like works and later demanding a group D promotion /salary for them! And the funniest matter in which the people are laughing at you, is that you are doing all these by ignoring the genuine problems of DRTTAs- the permanent employees of BSNL! Now we all are thinking that what this union is for! Are you really work for the
beneficiary of BSNL? Now, it is very suspicious that you are implementing some hidden political agenda in BSNL.
If your response is not positive then we will stop our union membership fee in the coming months onwards It is not so hopeful for you to look only into the present situation. Today may be of yours, but don't forget the tomorrow. On that day we would be so powerful as you people today, that to even block your IDA pension, medical reimbursement after retirement, time bound promotion, illegal pre-qualification exam of TMs etc. So we hope you keep your stardom which we, DRTTAs have been given to you as earlier.
RAJESH KUMAR M
Copy to : All leaders of BSNLEU
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Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 3:43 am ((PDT))
friends,ttasand comrades.........I will reply Bandhan in person. Before that,why u pre 2007 tts are shedding crocodile tears//??Why collection of money in the first place?Collection of money which doesnt exist(after revision) for a non existing cause??? :-JOYJOHN -9447869310
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