Monday, May 31, 2010

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1768

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. TTABSNL RPR
From: Sukhjiwan Singh

2a. Re: why
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav

3. China-made handsets face quality scan
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

4a. post 2007 friends
From: Amit
4b. Re: post 2007 friends
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
4c. Re: post 2007 friends
From: Sandip Solanki

5. Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

6. Fw: [TTABSNL] pay scale for 2007 and onward recruited TTAs.
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA

7. (no subject)
From: Balwinder Mehmi

8a. About TCIL Panafrican project
From: sasi kumara
8b. Re: About TCIL Panafrican project
From: Bandhan.P.Singh

9a. Re: reg TCIL deputation
From: sasi kumara

10. why SNATTA chq keep mum
From: Balwinder Mehmi

11. regarding increment date
From: chaudhari

12. About SNATTA Jalandhar
From: Balwinder Mehmi


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1. TTABSNL RPR
Posted by: "Sukhjiwan Singh" jiwan_268@yahoo.co.in jiwan_268
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))

SANCHAR NIGAM ASSOCIATION OF TELECOM TECHNICAL ASSISTANTs
(Regd. No.-DRFS/152)
 
MINUTES OF TTAs MEETING HELD ON 27 May 2010 AT OCB
ROOP NAGAR
 
 
·                    Meeting Address by Distt President Sh. Jagtar Singh
·                    Welcome all TTAs, Guest Rajinder Singh TTA
·                    Introduction with all TTAs
·                    Emphasis on unity of SNATTA.
·                    Restructure of SNATTA Body of Ropar SSA.
 
Meeting organized for Farewell of Sh. Rajinder Singh X-President SNATTA due to promoted for JAO post. So Following are the Distt. Bodies elected by majority of TTAs present in the meeting. More than 60% of TTAs were present in the meeting. Thanks of all the present TTAs. Please co-operate with elected bodies and provide them confidence of majority & unity so that TTA becomes the Power of Unity in RPR SSA.
 
 
Distt. Body Roopnagar
 
 
1.         Jagtar Singh                           Distt. President TTA MPR.                          94176-48467
 
2.         Sukhjiwan Singh                     Distt. Secretary TTA (Phones) RPR1          94635-94786
 
3.         Mohinder Mohan                   Asstt. Distt. Secretary cum Treasurer         9417306813
 
4.         Sapna                                      Executive Member RPR-1                            9463941945
 
5.         Sandeep Kumar                     Executive Member RPR-2                            01881201228
 
6.         Jasbir Singh                            Executive Member MDA                             9464521700
 
7.         Pramod Kaushal                     Executive Member APS                                9463270458
 
 
 
From: TTA SNATTA Body Roop Nagar
 
 
 
 

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2a. Re: why
Posted by: "Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav" yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in yadavashishkumarbsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:07 pm ((PDT))

dearmurlidharan,
                      your points raised regarding BSNLEU ARE absolutely true .I will specially steress point no 5 raised  by you :-MOST OF TTAS POSTING THEIR VIEWS ARE OFFICE BEARERS OF YOU AND ARE speaking in same manner as bsnleu it is very disgusting .the RIGHT WAY IS THAT FISTRLY WE ARE SNATTINS SO WE SHOULD COME ON SAME PLATEFORM TO SAVE THE RIGHTS OF OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS WHO ARE MOST QUALIFIED ,HARDWORKING&FUTURE OF BSNL.
 
WITHREGARDS                                                                    ASHISHKUMARSNATTIAN
                                                                                                  JALANDHARCIY
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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3. China-made handsets face quality scan
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:34 pm ((PDT))

*China-made handsets face quality scan*

Mobile handsets assembled in China but sold in India under local brand names
will have to *undergo a security drill for spyware and safety check for
radiation.*

Intelligence agencies have raised a security alarm over Chinese telecom
equipment, while consumer groups have *repeatedly warned about radiation.*

Over the last two years the country has been flooded with *cheap Chinese
handsets sold under Indian brands such as Zen Mobile, Micromax, Karbonn,
Intex and Simoco.*

According to an industry player, the low-cost material and software used in
these handsets raise "quality issues", which the government wants to
address.

"The government is looking at issuing a certificate for local vendors on the
lines of the CE certification in Europe," Vaibhav Shastri, CEO of Zen
Mobile, told *The Telegraph*.

In Europe, the CE marking certifies that a product has met the EU consumer
safety, health and environmental norms.

Global handset vendors such as Nokia, Samsung and Motorola have CE marking,
which is accepted in India as the mark of a high-quality product.

However, homegrown brands do not opt for CE certification as it is expensive
and not mandatory, industry players said.

According to officials, *the certification will ensure that the handsets are
not infected by spywares or viruses, have unique identification numbers and
keep radiation at a medically acceptable level.*

The telecom department's technical arm — Telecom Engineering Centre — will
undertake this project.

There are around 90-95 Indian brands selling over 50-60 lakh low-cost
handsets per month, giving tough competition to global vendors in terms of
prices, features, models and services.

The phones have become very popular in the country's hinterlands and smaller
cities.

According to research firm IDC, homegrown firms that entered the market in
early 2008 have captured a 17.5 per cent share of the 100-million market at
the end of 2009 from a meagre 0.9 per cent at the end of March 2008.

The government is setting up a telecom testing and security certification
centre, where all equipment will be scanned.

Security agencies are concerned that some vendors may infiltrate telecom
networks through remote log-in facilities and spyware.

Finance minister Pranab Mukherjee had allotted resources in the budget to
set up the testing centre, modelled along the lines of the China Information
Technology Certification Centre.

Several countries such as the UK and the US use such facilities to bar the
intrusion of external elements in their communication networks.

The CNITSEC operates and maintains national evaluation and certification
scheme for IT and telecom security.

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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4a. post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Amit" amit.kr_co@yahoo.co.uk amit.kr_co
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:52 pm ((PDT))

everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us known .

as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request our top leaders to address this issue .

following is a letter I got from one of our members

hi
there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs due
to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital issue
which fuels this anger.

actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me maze le
rahe hain.

is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne hi
chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.

circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq tak
pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.


AMIT KUMAR
DIST SECY PATNA


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4b. Re: post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:55 pm ((PDT))

very nice post Amit...

*atleast CHQ should post some sincere msg to the group so that the unrest
prevailing among all new TTAs get cools down a bit*. CHQ should act like big
brother and listen patiently to all.

*we all knew that CHQ tried to get good pay scale for all but could not
reach upto the expectation of all*. No worries.... we all are with CHQ if
they initiate any further action for the betterment of all.
CHQ alone could not do anything until and unless all quarters of SNATTA echo
the same voice.

*i remember CHQ gave call for meeting in Delhi on feb 7, 2010. but only 25%
reached there. Now tell me what a GS or President can do when official
members could not act accordingly and responsibly.

*
bandhan

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Amit <amit.kr_co@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising
> leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are
> worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us
> known .
>
> as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request
> our top leaders to address this issue .
>
> following is a letter I got from one of our members
>
> hi
> there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs
> due
> to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital
> issue
> which fuels this anger.
>
> actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
> drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me
> maze le
> rahe hain.
>
> is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne
> hi
> chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
>
> circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq
> tak
> pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
>
> AMIT KUMAR
> DIST SECY PATNA
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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4c. Re: post 2007 friends
Posted by: "Sandip Solanki" sandip4net@yahoo.co.in sandip4net
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:46 am ((PDT))

Dear B.P. you are right. I think that there is no use of posting a sincere mail in group by CHQ.
Because there is no patience and faith in CHQ now. All are acusing CHQ for not doing anything for TTAs. What is the meaning of Fitment is still not understood.
What all are talking about is To get Higher Salary and the LOGICs behind that are right obviously but to implement that WE SHOULD GET HELP OF LAW.
As it is the issue of 12000 people out of 2.5 lacs, no one is expected for help.
We should approach LAWYER for the matter i think.
Why someone is not trying to approach a LAWYER. Here the help of court gives result for all. When there is no meaning of filing Case, there we have filed a CASE.
Try to approach a Lawyer for the matter....
 
Er. Sandip Solanki
C.C., SNATTA,
Rajkot - GUJARAT
09429244440


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From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 May, 2010 11:02:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] post 2007 friends

 
very nice post Amit...

atleast CHQ should post some sincere msg to the group so that the unrest prevailing among all new TTAs get cools down a bit. CHQ should act like big brother and listen patiently to all.

we all knew that CHQ tried to get good pay scale for all but could not reach upto the expectation of all. No worries.... we all are with CHQ if they initiate any further action for the betterment of all.
CHQ alone could not do anything until and unless all quarters of SNATTA echo the same voice.

i remember CHQ gave call for meeting in Delhi on feb 7, 2010. but only 25% reached there. Now tell me what a GS or President can do when official members could not act accordingly and responsibly.


bandhan


On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Amit <amit.kr_co@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:

 
>everyone is advising post 2007 ttas to do something but no one is advising leaders to do the same neither they are doing anything , or rather they are worry and are in touch with V.A.N. and CMD , but they are not letting us known .
>
>as being dist. secy. patna and above all, being a snatta member I request our top leaders to address this issue .
>
>following is a letter I got from one of our members
>
>hi
>there is unprecedented unrest amongst our members especially post 2007 TTAs due
>to decrease in their gross salary. the snatta chq keeps mum on this vital issue
>which fuels this anger.
>
>actually ek avishwas ka mahaul ban raha hai jisme naye log hame shak ki
>drishti se dekhte hain ki inhone to paise le liye lekin hamare baare me maze le
>rahe hain.
>
>is mushkil vaqt me chq ko aage aa kar sahanubhuti ke kuchh shabd to kahne hi
>chahiye the. lekin hakkam singh ne to ulta hi likh daala.
>
>circle secy, circle coordinator pls is par dhyan de tatha is baat ko chq tak
>pahunchayen. varna SNATTA ka bahut nuksaan hone ja raha hai.
>
>AMIT KUMAR
>DIST SECY PATNA
>
>


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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5. Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:05 pm ((PDT))

*Quit Smoking: Health Tip of the Day!*


--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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6. Fw: [TTABSNL] pay scale for 2007 and onward recruited TTAs.
Posted by: "VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA" vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com vikas8bsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:05 pm ((PDT))



Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,BSNL,Jharkhand
9431100511

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: VIKAS KUMAR GUPTA <vikas8bsnl@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 13 September, 2009 1:40:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.


Dear Chandan and all,

The pay anamoly that Rishi and Girish have anticipated is not altogether baseless.I think they have a very valid point and we should see that there is no discrimination with new and old TTAs.And goverment has a very little role to play in pay determination of non executives in CPSUs,it just issues a broad guidelines,a frame of rules and policies within which everything has to be finalised with mutual agreement and consent of Union and Management.Beacause,as unionised workers we have a right to negotiate on wages and other industrial disputes ,but the executives are at the mercy of government and DPE as they are just given a chance to be heard but it is finally the report of Committee which after approval of the Govt and DPE is followed in all PSUs.But we are called for agreement

Reagrding the pay anamoly I would like to explain it with some examples:---

In Railways,entry level of JE--------------------rs 5000
after fitment of 1.86 now its --------------------rs 9300(5000*1.86)+ 4200(40 % of 10500,upper limit of the scales which are merged)

5000,5500,(6500-10500) are merged after VI pay comm .

So,now a JE who joined before 1.1.2006(date of revision in govt dept,railways) is getting 9300+4200+da+hra+misc and a JE who joined after 1.1.2006 is also getting same amount ie 9300+4200+da+hra+misc .starting basic is 13500 for both.

Suppose a JE has reached a basic of 5800 in the scale of 5000 with annual increment of rs 200.
then his new basic is 5800*1.86+4200=14988.

We can conclude that the fitment is universal,ie equal at all levels,entry level or even after 4 or 8 years of service the fitment benefit is 1.86.

But in BSNL what happened to JTO pay scale?
It was 9850 pre revised and now its proposed at 18850.(68.2 da neut and just 13 % fitment)
as per the fitment formula 9850 should have been

9850*1.682*1.3-------------rs 21538
(68.2 % da neutralisation and 30% fitment)

this has resulted in a serious pay anamoly.JTO who joined bsefore 1.1.2007 is now placed at rs 21538 but a jto who joined after this date will get just 18850.the difference is almost 3000 in basic alone which is just too much.So with just single day you face a loss of 3000 in basic alone.
So we conclude that the fitment is not equal.If the fitment is 30 % then it should be at all levels,also at entry level.

No one made hue and cry over this initially,even AIGETOA woke up from its sleep very becuase it feared it may lose prospective members .Recently it has riased its voice but that too for 2005 JTOs ,but what about those who have been recruited after 2007,why should they get less fitment.Any way this matter cant be solved by BSNL alone because the pay scale has been approved by DPE and applicable to all CPSUs.

But we are at benefit becuase our scale is yet to be finalised,the wage comm has to ensure that the fitment is universal.If its 68.2 % da neutralisation and 30 % fitment formula then the new scale of TTA should be 7100*1.682*1.3=rs 15524 at the minimum.And its obvious that the TTA s who have served longer years would get benefit by virtue of the length of service,but the fitment would still be the same.

tta joined before 1.1.2007,starting basic --7100 will be revised to 15524

tta joined after 1.1.2007,starting basic --7100 will be revised to 15524
if my basic is 8500 after 7 years of service then new basic--8500*1.682*1.3=rs 18586

But SNATTA is trying its best to get the pay scale upgraded from 7100 to higher scales and we have given justificationsfor that,So,f it happens then the new TTA would be benefitted more then the older ones.

So at the minimum it should be rs 15524 to avoid any kind of anamoly.In other words the fitment formula should be applicable at all stages uniformally.

bye




Vikas Kumar Gupta
TTA(MSC),CMTS Cell,Jharkhand
9471590026

--- On Sat, 12/9/09, CHANDAN KUMAR SAMAL <chandan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


>From: CHANDAN KUMAR SAMAL <chandan_bsnl@yahoo.co.in>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, 12 September, 2009, 1:41 AM
>
>
>
>Hi
>Rishi & Girish
>Pay commission sits in every 10 years. Don't you think that those who joined 20/30 years back must have seen few wage revisions also. there pay was last time revised in 1997. At that time also these things must have happened. Those who joined after 1.1. 1997 must be at a disadvantage/ Advantage than the others who were rectted earlier than 1.1.1997. That's what sandip was trying to make u understand.
>
>So dear, it is the Govt that takes decisions as to who should get how much. and Govt takes decisions to be followed, not to be discussed.
>
> and u know, the funniest thing is that u people have anticipated a problem and want SNATTA to speak for u. PLEASE have a little patience. who knows 2007 rectted TTAs may be at a advantagous position than 2001 rectted just like it happened in last PRC. Also have a close watch on what happens in the case of 2005 batch JTOs. If there anomoly is solved then yours will also be solved automatically. If there problem remains as it is, then forget SNATTA, even GOD can't speak for u.
>
>bye
>Chandan
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: rishi singh <rishi12353@yahoo. com>
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 6:37:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>
>
>Dear sandip
>
> if service period is under consideration then people who join bsnl(dot) 20 or 30 yrs back n now working in same cadre of TTA ,they sud get double or triple salary compaired to batch 2002.
>
>as per govt. rule n tradition revised salary sud be uniform 4 all(cadre wise)....n thats wat arrears matters,who joined early he will got arrears.by the way why ur logic is not applicable to MT recruitment with their pay scale????
>
>regards
>rishi
>TTA,bangalore
>
>--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Sandip Solanki <sandip4net@yahoo. co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:37 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Girish Kumar,
>>Don't be so exited. We have serve the department for last 7 years and for that we are getting the 30% fitment. You have just entered in to. The revision of scales will decide your benefit. But it will definately not at par with the recruitees before 1.1.2007 and it is ligible. The fitment is the part of service before the wage revision, that is not applicable in 2008 and 2009 batch.
>>There is nothing to think of. We are trying our best for better Revised Scales. Even we have demanded that they should be revised as per the DPE guidlines. Then it will be about 16400/-. Let's see what happens.
>>Don't ever try to mislead someone that there will be injustice to 2008 & 2009 batch. This is the rule.
>>
>>
>>
>>Er. Sandip Solanki
>>C.C., SNATTA,
>>Rajkot - GUJARAT
>>09429244440
>>
>>--- On Thu, 10/9/09, Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: Gireesh Kumar <gireesh.klm@ gmail.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] pay scale for non executive.
>>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>>Date: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 8:30 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>In this Wage Revision there will not be any benefit for Newly Recruited TTAs, Isn't It ??
>>>
>>>
>>>Who will speak for Us ????????
>>>
>>>Wt R the actions taken by SNATTA in this regard ???????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Gireesh Kumar M
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:11 PM, VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HI,
>>>> EXPECTED PAY IF IT IS 30% FITMANT
>>>>
>>>> TTA 2002 TTA 2008
>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- -
>>>>
>>>> OLD PAY SCALE NEW SCALE OF PAY
>>>>BASIC 7100-200-10100 14500-30400( 3% annual inc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TTA 2002 BATCH WILL GET 30% FIT ALONG WITH NEW BASIC AS ON 1-1-2007. IT MAY BE AROUND Rs. 18850+24%DA+ HRA+DIET+ TA. TOTAL EMULANTS AROUND
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BASIC 18850
>>>> DA 4524
>>>> HRA 1885
>>>> DIET 500
>>>> TA 300
>>>> ------------ -----
>>>> 26059
>>>> ------------ ----
>>>>
>>>>NEW TTA MAY GET NO FIT APPLICABLE FOR NEW JOIN AFTER 1-1-2007
>>>>
>>>> basic 14900
>>>> da 3480
>>>> HRA 1490
>>>> DIET 500
>>>> TA 300
>>>> ------------ --------- --
>>>>GROSS 20766
>>>> ------------ --------- --
>>>>
>>>>THIS IS ONLY APPROXIMATE BUT NEW TTA GET VERY LESS COMPARE TO OLD TTA.
>>>>
>>>>BY
>>>>ER. M. RAJESH KUMAR TTA
>>>>CMTS, PALACODE 9443200084
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>"..dar ke Aaage Jeeth Hei.."
>>>Gireesh Kumar M
>>>
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7. (no subject)
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:16 pm ((PDT))

DEAR DHERAJ PRAJAPATI
    We demanded conveyance allowance beneficial to tta & have have rejected present conveyance allowance giving to TTAs.please my dear frind read both attachments.

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8a. About TCIL Panafrican project
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:36 am ((PDT))

hai Bandhan
At present 5 TTA are working in Pan africa project
All the SDE and JTO has returned back to BSNL since no more benefits after hike in salary
 
this project is implemented in all the 53 African countries
the work is no problem
Transportation is the risky one
No proper medical facilites in Africa
FDA will not be raised by TCIL
i have asked them for special allowance for food!but they refused
Food is the big problem in Africa. 3 USD is not sufficent for food
cost of living is very very high in Africa
i am working in this project for 1.6 years
Planning to quit this year
some countries are very hot (bordering Sahara desert)
some countries having internal wars and problems too
 
Sasikumara.G
dtssasi@gmail.com
TTA,BSNL,Tamilnadu
+229-98860347
 
 
 


--- On Sun, 30/5/10, bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com> wrote:


From: bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 7:03 AM


 

Dear Sasi..!!

first of all thanks for the reply....
but u could not brief me the most striking questions which are coming to the minds of lot of new and old TTAs........ .i.e,

1. hows the working conditions (transportations, accommodation, job-profile etc..) and in-hand salary from TCIL.??

2. Are you satisfied with the overall experience there and how long u have been working there since.??

3. Do you have an idea that how many more TTAs or BSNL Employees  are working there.? is this project implemented in ur area only or some other parts of Africa as well.??

 4. Have you or any other person taken any initiative to ask them about the non-implementation of FDA rates.??  Have you or anyone ever contacted SNATTA regarding this.?

one last question.. Can we do something (court case, RTI, Union or Executive associations pressure etc..) to get the new Increased Foreign DA rates implemented in TCIL..??

waiting for early and complete reply.

thank you for sparing some time for us.

Bandhan Preet Singh
(Worked with TCIL on Asian Games, 2006 at Doha, Qatar)


--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, sasi kumara <dtssasi@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Bandhan CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they did nt do.its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
>
> --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...> wrote:
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> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa  Project.
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
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> pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
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> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
> as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
> Â
> the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
> Â
> if any queries mail to me!
> regds
> sasikumara.G
> +229-98860347
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> --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
>
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> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
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> To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
> Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
>
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> Hi friends,
> i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
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> In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
> As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so  Pls read the below Mail........ ....
>
> Hi there !
> Â
> I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
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> Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
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> Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
> Â Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
> Â
> regards,
> Rajesh
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> Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
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> But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
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> i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.
>
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> thanks & regards,
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> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd
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> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
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> Think Different... Think Good..!! Â
>    Â
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>


Messages in this topic (7)
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8b. Re: About TCIL Panafrican project
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 am ((PDT))

Dear Sasi...

you have been boon to the expected candidates... hope i have not bothered u
much with so many questions..but i asked them just for the sake of all
especially new Dr.TTAs which are constantly contacting me on this subject...
i think this is the only reason TCIL keep asking for TTAs for the last 4 yrs
and none interested in joining them ;-))

its nice to hear from u again... thanks u very much..!!


regards,

*Bandhan Preet Singh,*
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> hai Bandhan
> At present 5 TTA are working in Pan africa project
> All the SDE and JTO has returned back to BSNL since no more benefits after
> hike in salary
>
> this project is implemented in all the 53 African countries
> the work is no problem
> Transportation is the risky one
> No proper medical facilites in Africa
> FDA will not be raised by TCIL
> i have asked them for special allowance for food!but they refused
> Food is the big problem in Africa. 3 USD is not sufficent for food
> cost of living is very very high in Africa
> i am working in this project for 1.6 years
> Planning to quit this year
> some countries are very hot (bordering Sahara desert)
> some countries having internal wars and problems too
>
> Sasikumara.G
> dtssasi@gmail.com
> TTA,BSNL,Tamilnadu
> +229-98860347
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 30/5/10, bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: bsnl_chd <email13@gmail.com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 7:03 AM
>
>
> Dear Sasi..!!
>
> first of all thanks for the reply....
> but u could not brief me the *most striking questions* which are coming to
> the minds of lot of new and old TTAs........ .i.e,
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> 1. *hows the working conditions (transportations, accommodation,
> job-profile etc..) and in-hand salary from TCIL.??*
>
> *2. Are you satisfied with the overall experience there and how long u
> have been working there since.?? *
>
> 3. Do you have an idea that how many more TTAs or BSNL Employees are
> working there.? is this project implemented in ur area only or some other
> parts of Africa as well.??
>
> 4. Have you or any other person taken any initiative to ask them about the
> non-implementation of FDA rates.?? Have you or anyone ever contacted SNATTA
> regarding this.?
>
> one last question.. *Can we do something (court case, RTI, Union or
> Executive associations pressure etc..) to get the new Increased Foreign DA
> rates implemented in TCIL..??*
>
> waiting for early and complete reply.
>
> *thank you for sparing some time for us.*
>
> *Bandhan Preet Singh*
> *(Worked with TCIL on Asian Games, 2006 at Doha, Qatar)*
>
>
> --- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com, sasi kumara <dtssasi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bandhan CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation but TCIL has
> to implement the new revised DA. But they did nt do.its not BSNL who can
> interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
> >
> > --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> > Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> > To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
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> >
> > pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are
> getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having
> different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL
> employees gets less pay..??
> >
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> > bandhan
> >
> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> > hai friends
> > i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west
> africa
> > as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD
> (fixed not varying according to country)
> > Â
> > the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in
> the DA rate!
> > Â
> > if any queries mail to me!
> > regds
> > sasikumara.G
> > +229-98860347
> >
> > --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> > Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
> Project.
> >
> >
> > To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
> > Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
> >
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> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi friends,
> > i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as
> Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign
> deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his
> third visit in last 1 year.
> >
> >
> > In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
> > As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below
> Mail........ ....
> >
> > Hi there !
> > Â
> > I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to
> country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates.
> For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days
> it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that
> it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every
> country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary
> from country to country.
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are
> accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
> > Â
> > Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d
> revision of salaries!
> > Â Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
> > Â
> > regards,
> > Rajesh
> >
> >
> > Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him
> personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has
> been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive
> now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and
> 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
> >
> > i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The
> above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the
> TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We
> can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last
> time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their
> genuine share.
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks & regards,
> >
> > Bandhan Preet Singh,
> > Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> > BSNL, Mohali, Chd
> >
> > --
> > Think
> > Different... Think Good..!! Â
> > Â Â
> > "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
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> > regards,
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> > Bandhan Preet Singh,
> > Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> > BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
> >
> > Think Different... Think Good..!! Â
> > Â Â
> > "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
> >
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Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


Messages in this topic (7)
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9a. Re: reg TCIL deputation
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:37 am ((PDT))

Dear Deepak
Send the application along with your Biodata to TCIL HQ thru proper channel
ensure that the SDE or DE signs your application as "can be relived without reliver"

its TCIL then cheks the application and selects the person
Enough training is also provided by TCIL
 
dtssasi@gmail.com
+229-98860347

--- On Sun, 30/5/10, Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Deepak Kumar <deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] reg TCIL deputation
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 8:43 AM


 

Thanks a lot dear Sasi Kumara
please explain the selection process in detail. is there any pre-deputation training provided by TCIL for respective projects?


Regards
Deepak Kumar
9431610399


From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:55:03 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] reg TCIL deputation [1 Attachment]

 


hai friends
many of you have send mails to me reg the deputation
i am attaching my deputation order which is issued bt TCIL before starting to Africa
 
TCIL is having many projects in Middle east and Pan africa
 
** If you chose middle east project you are put up in a team.
** In Pan africa project you are posted alone in a country. You have to install VSAT and studio equipments and then maintain the installed one!
** The BSNL salary is paided by TCIL. Apart from that 15 USD as FDA for foreign deputation
 
1. TCIL will provide you accomodation, adequate mess facility.
 
2. Sufficent furnitures are also provided by TCIL.
 
3. Food is our responsible. I am getting 3 USD per day for food and the reamining 12 USD is deposited in my india account. 12+3=15 USD.
 
4. Travel allowance to sites is given by TCIL.The travel is risky one since it is in hired motor bikes.(like Auto rickshaw)
 
5. No other allowance is given by TCIL.
 
6. You cannot come back before one year after you travel abroad. If soo you have to pay the To and Fro ticket to TCIL. The ticket has to booked at your cost. For example: My the tciket cost from Delhi to Benin is Rs.98000. If i am quiting before one year i have to pay 98000 and the return ticket is at my cost.
 
7. LTC  cannot be claimed.
 
8. No Medical allowance. You have to submit the bills and then they pay you.
 
In Some African countries French is the official language.
 
if any queries mail me
 
sasikumara.G
Benin
+229-98860347

--- On Sun, 30/5/10, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 2:52 AM


 

Dear Bandhan
CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation
but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they didnt do.
its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.
the FDA is fixed in the year 1975

--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM


 

my dear sasi,

pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??

bandhan


On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:


 

hai friends
i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
 
the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
 
if any queries mail to me!
regds
sasikumara.G
+229-98860347

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM


 


Hi friends,
i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so  Pls read the below Mail........ ....

Hi there !
 
I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
 
Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.

 
Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
 Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
 
regards,
Rajesh


Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.

But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??

i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.


thanks & regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd

--
Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

Messages in this topic (3)
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10. why SNATTA chq keep mum
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 2:38 am ((PDT))

my dear friends
     i agree with mr amit. at present situation when  our TTA brothers are accusing SNATTA for pay anomally. There is a war of suggestions on yahoo groups.Why SNATTAs chq has keep silence. i feel that for pay anomally not only bsnleu  but also our leadership is more & more responsible.
 
SNATTA chq must convey what are you doing.

Messages in this topic (1)
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11. regarding increment date
Posted by: "chaudhari" bhavesh_ec2006@yahoo.co.in bhavesh_ec2006
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:45 am ((PDT))


Hello frds,


i want to know about increment date. whether it is from date of joining or training date.because my training start form 27/04/2009. but in pay slip my increment date 01/07/2010(date of resume). not 01/04/2010.

bhavesh chaudhari
TTA BSNL gujarat


Messages in this topic (1)
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12. About SNATTA Jalandhar
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Mon May 31, 2010 4:49 am ((PDT))

my dear friends
     SNATTA Jalandhar is not bowing in front of bsnleu.the reasons are that we have got transfered 25 TTAs including ashish kumar who was wandring around bsnleu & Executives for his transfer. we got allotment of qtrs even out of terms. AN EXECUTIVE SLAPPED OUR NEW TTA , WHEN JUSTICE WAS NOT DONE BY MANAGEMENT, District body BSNLEU SLAPEED THAT OFFICER.  BSNLEU JALANDHAR IS FACING COURT CASE FOR THE SAKE OFF TTAs. DISTRICT SECRETARY BSNLEU SAY THAT ITS NOT SLAP ON THE FACE OF TTA ITS ON THE FACE OS BSNLEU. So when bsnleu listen our every problem & solve them ,its our responsibility to convey them our demands in frindly way.moreover SNATTA Jalandhar taking actions according to its power ,why do not ask SNATTAchq to take solid decisions who has keep mum till now.
IN JOINT MEETING SNATTA JALANDHAR MORE THAN 70 % of TTAs was new ,the common agenda was passed with the consent of all. how someone can say that it is lollypop to new  TTAs.
SNATTA JL IS READY TO FOLLOW ANY DECISION DECISION FOR THE SAKE SNATTA TAKEN UNANIMOUSLY BY ALL TTAs WITHOUT WORRING ABOUT THEIR POSTS.
 
BALWINDER SINGH
DISTRICT PRESIDENT
SNATTA JALANDHAR

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Sunday, May 30, 2010

[TTABSNL] Digest Number 1767[5 Attachments]

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. UNTIL THEN ? OR ATLEAST WE HAVE A SENSE OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE BY ALL MEM
From: Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab
1b. Re: UNTIL THEN ? OR ATLEAST WE HAVE A SENSE OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE BY ALL
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav

2. (no subject)
From: Balwinder Mehmi

3a. reg TCIL deputation
From: sasi kumara
3b. Re: reg TCIL deputation [1 Attachment]
From: Deepak Kumar

4a. Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
From: bsnl_chd

5. Demands of SNATTA Jalandhar ( Punjab )
From: Balwinder Mehmi

6a. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
From: Bandhan.P.Singh
6b. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
From: pankaj saner
6c. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
From: sridhar rama
6d. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav
6e. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
From: joykakkayam john
6f. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
From: santosh

7a. File - Datase for TTABSNL group.doc
From: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

8. File - database
From: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com

9a. Re: DRRTA after 2007 Resignation from BSNLEU
From: pankaj saner

10. Reg pay revision
From: nannapaneni@rocketmail.com

11a. SNATTA JALANDHAR BOWING DOWN INFRONT OF BSNLEU
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav
11b. Re: SNATTA JALANDHAR BOWING DOWN INFRONT OF BSNLEU
From: joykakkayam john

12a. why
From: joykakkayam john
12b. Re: why
From: muralidharan muralidharan

13. not working well distt body SNATTA in amritsar
From: dhiraj Prajapati

14a. Reg
From: joykakkayam john
14b. Re: Reg
From: muralidharan muralidharan

15a. Re: Why
From: sathappan natraj


Messages
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1a. UNTIL THEN ? OR ATLEAST WE HAVE A SENSE OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE BY ALL MEM
Posted by: "Circle Secretary, SNATTA , Punjab" circlesecretarypunjab@gmail.com
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:37 am ((PDT))

*DEAR FRIENDS,*


IF OUR SURROUNDING IS COVERED BY DUST & FOG THEN IT IS OUR
DUTY TO CUT IT BY OURS OWN LIGHT , FOR THIS WE HAVE TO MOVE *FROM SELF
INTERESTS TO COMMON GOALS*. WE HAVE TO SHAKED OURSELF BECAUSE WE ARE A PART
OF SYSTEM.

WE
FORMED A COMMON PLATFORM BY COMING FORWARD IF THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM
WITH COMMON PLATFORM , THEN WE ALL ARE PART OF IT& RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS,SO
COMING BACK TO SELF WOULD DEFINITELY REDUCE THAT PROBLEM WHICH IS WITH
OUR COMMON PLATFORM & FOR WHICH WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE , AFTER THIS WE ARE
IN POSITION , SO THAT WE BECOME ABLE TO SAY SOME THING TO OTHERS.


* WE LEFT OUR SELF BEHIND & ALWAYS WANTS TO IMPROVE OUR COMMON PLATFORM &
THIS NOT YIELDED A ANY RESULT*. SO THE NEED OF HOURS IS THAT *COME FORWARD
WITH YOUR SELF & DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE OUR COMMON PLATFORM & THIS MUST
YIELD A RESULT WHICH WE ARE WAITING . *


* **WE ARE DOING ALL THE THINGS LIKE .........NO VALUES OF HARD WORK IF DONE
BY ANY OF OUR MEMBER 2. LEGS PULLING OF OURS OWN MEMBERS 3. NEGATIVE
CRITICISM OF OUR OWN MEMBERS 4. KEEPING LEFT BEHIND ANY ACTION BUT ONLY &
ALWAYS ACTS AS MEMBERS OF ADVISORY COUNCIL 5.ALWAYS LOWERED THE MORAL OF OUR
VERY SMALL NUMBERS OF SOLDIERS.& SO ON...................*


*
TO FIGHT A INJUSTICE IS NOT A MATTER OF TALKING ONLY BUT INSTEAD A MATTER OF
ACTION & ONLY ACTION. THIS IS A VERY DISCOURAGING ATMOSPHERE AROUND US SO
NEED OF HOUR IS TO DISCOVER A ANGER WITHIN YOU ALL THAT WILL DEFINITELY TAKE
A FORM OF ACTION THAT WILL SOLVE OUR ALL DEMANDS.*
**
*
MEMBERS OF PUNJAB READY TO SUPPORTS THAT ACTION IF OUR ANGER OVERCOME OUR
SELF INTERESTS & FAVOUR FOR COMMON GOALS AND IF SNATTA-CHQ LEADS &
INITIATE THAT ACTION*.

*WITH REGARDS,*
*HAKAM SINGH,*
*CS-SNATTA-PB,*
*09417277177.*


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1b. Re: UNTIL THEN ? OR ATLEAST WE HAVE A SENSE OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE BY ALL
Posted by: "Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav" yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in yadavashishkumarbsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:00 am ((PDT))

dearcirclesecretary

it is good step by you that you are realising that some mistake has occured in wage revision of TTAS &our new TTAS are in loss due to wage revision .it good time to you to step down because new TTAS are thinking that on behalf of SNATTA you are main culprit in WAGE REVISION OF TTA.
 
with regads                                                                                ASHISHKUMARYADAV
                                                                                                     jalandharcity

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2. (no subject)
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:39 am ((PDT))

Dear friends,
                 A joint meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar organised on dated - 30.05.2010 at GM office in the presence of district president SNATTA Jalandhar Balwinder singh . District secretary BSNLEU was chief guest, he said that he is with SNATTA & ensure to refer the demands of SNATTA Jalandhar as attached below to Circle secretary & General secretary of BSNLEU in written


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3a. reg TCIL deputation
Posted by: "sasi kumara" dtssasi@yahoo.com dtssasi
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:41 am ((PDT))

hai friends
many of you have send mails to me reg the deputation
i am attaching my deputation order which is issued bt TCIL before starting to Africa
 
TCIL is having many projects in Middle east and Pan africa
 
** If you chose middle east project you are put up in a team.
** In Pan africa project you are posted alone in a country. You have to install VSAT and studio equipments and then maintain the installed one!
** The BSNL salary is paided by TCIL. Apart from that 15 USD as FDA for foreign deputation
 
1. TCIL will provide you accomodation,adequate mess facility.
 
2. Sufficent furnitures are also provided by TCIL.
 
3. Food is our responsible.I am getting 3 USD per day for food and the reamining 12 USD is deposited in my india account. 12+3=15 USD.
 
4. Travel allowance to sites is given by TCIL.The travel is risky one since it is in hired motor bikes.(like Auto rickshaw)
 
5. No other allowance is given by TCIL.
 
6. You cannot come back before one year after you travel abroad. If soo you have to pay the To and Fro ticket to TCIL. The ticket has to booked at your cost. For example: My the tciket cost from Delhi to Benin is Rs.98000. If i am quiting before one year i have to pay 98000 and the return ticket is at my cost.
 
7. LTC  cannot be claimed.
 
8. No Medical allowance. You have to submit the bills and then they pay you.
 
In Some African countries French is the official language.
 
if any queries mail me
 
sasikumara.G
Benin
+229-98860347

--- On Sun, 30/5/10, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 2:52 AM


 

Dear Bandhan
CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation
but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they didnt do.
its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.
the FDA is fixed in the year 1975

--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM


 

my dear sasi,

pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??

bandhan


On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:


 

hai friends
i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
 
the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
 
if any queries mail to me!
regds
sasikumara.G
+229-98860347

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:


From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM


 


Hi friends,
i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so  Pls read the below Mail........ ....

Hi there !
 
I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
 
Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.

 
Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
 Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
 
regards,
Rajesh


Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.

But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??

i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.


thanks & regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd

--
Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different... Think Good..!!  
   
"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD,   DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"

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3b. Re: reg TCIL deputation [1 Attachment]
Posted by: "Deepak Kumar" deepak_bsnlktr@yahoo.com deepak_bsnlktr
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 7:59 am ((PDT))

Thanks a lot dear Sasi Kumara
please explain the selection process in detail. is there any pre-deputation training provided by TCIL for respective projects?

Regards
Deepak Kumar
9431610399

________________________________
From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:55:03 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] reg TCIL deputation [1 Attachment]


[Attachment(s) from sasi kumara included below]
hai friends
many of you have send mails to me reg the deputation
i am attaching my deputation order which is issued bt TCIL before starting to Africa

TCIL is having many projects in Middle east and Pan africa

** If you chose middle east project you are put up in a team.
** In Pan africa project you are posted alone in a country. You have to install VSAT and studio equipments and then maintain the installed one!
** The BSNL salary is paided by TCIL. Apart from that 15 USD as FDA for foreign deputation

1. TCIL will provide you accomodation, adequate mess facility.

2. Sufficent furnitures are also provided by TCIL.

3. Food is our responsible. I am getting 3 USD per day for food and the reamining 12 USD is deposited in my india account. 12+3=15 USD.

4. Travel allowance to sites is given by TCIL.The travel is risky one since it is in hired motor bikes.(like Auto rickshaw)

5. No other allowance is given by TCIL.

6. You cannot come back before one year after you travel abroad. If soo you have to pay the To and Fro ticket to TCIL. The ticket has to booked at your cost. For example: My the tciket cost from Delhi to Benin is Rs.98000. If i am quiting before one year i have to pay 98000 and the return ticket is at my cost.

7. LTC cannot be claimed.

8. No Medical allowance. You have to submit the bills and then they pay you.

In Some African countries French is the official language.

if any queries mail me

sasikumara.G
Benin
+229-98860347

--- On Sun, 30/5/10, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:


>From: sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 2:52 AM
>
>
>
>Dear Bandhan
>
>CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation
>but TCIL has to implement the new revised DA. But they didnt do.
>its not BSNL who can interfer in this matter.
>the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
>
>--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
>>Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
>>To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups .com
>>Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>my dear sasi,
>>
>>pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt. so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
>>
>>bandhan
>>
>>
>>On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>hai friends
>>>i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at Benin west africa
>>>as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD (fixed not varying according to country)
>>>
>>>the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike in the DA rate!
>>>
>>>if any queries mail to me!
>>>regds
>>>sasikumara.G
>>>+229-98860347
>>>
>>>--- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
>>>>Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
>>>>To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
>>>>Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi friends,
>>>>i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is his third visit in last 1 year.
>>>>In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
>>>>As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the below Mail........ ....
>>>>
>>>>Hi there !
>>>>
>>>>I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation, only the rates vary from country to country.
>>>>
>>>>Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
>>>>
>>>>Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after d revision of salaries!
>>>> Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
>>>>
>>>>regards,
>>>>Rajesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
>>>>
>>>>But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
>>>>
>>>>i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should get their genuine share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>>>>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>>>>BSNL, Mohali, Chd
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Think Different... Think Good..!!
>>>>
>>>>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>regards,
>>
>>Bandhan Preet Singh,
>>Broadband Engineer (TTA),
>>BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>>
>>Think Different... Think Good..!!
>>
>>"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>>
>


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4a. Re: A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa Project.
Posted by: "bsnl_chd" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:43 am ((PDT))

Dear Sasi..!!

first of all thanks for the reply....
but u could not brief me the most striking questions which are coming to
the minds of lot of new and old TTAs.........i.e,

1. hows the working conditions (transportations, accommodation,
job-profile etc..) and in-hand salary from TCIL.??

2. Are you satisfied with the overall experience there and how long u
have been working there since.??

3. Do you have an idea that how many more TTAs or BSNL Employees are
working there.? is this project implemented in ur area only or some
other parts of Africa as well.??

4. Have you or any other person taken any initiative to ask them about
the non-implementation of FDA rates.?? Have you or anyone ever
contacted SNATTA regarding this.?

one last question.. Can we do something (court case, RTI, Union or
Executive associations pressure etc..) to get the new Increased Foreign
DA rates implemented in TCIL..??

waiting for early and complete reply.

thank you for sparing some time for us.

Bandhan Preet Singh
(Worked with TCIL on Asian Games, 2006 at Doha, Qatar)


--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, sasi kumara <dtssasi@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Bandhan CDAC and TCIL are also government organisation but TCIL
has to implement the new revised DA. But they did nt do.its not BSNL who
can interfer in this matter.the FDA is fixed in the year 1975
>
> --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@...>
> Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in
Africa Project.
> To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 6:22 AM
>
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> my dear sasi,
>
> pls disclose the working conditions there and the in hand salary you
are getting and Mr.Rajesh (my frnd) works in CDAC, and might be they r
having different DA rules. But the question is CDAC is also govt deptt.
so why BSNL employees gets less pay..??
>
>
>
> bandhan
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM, sasi kumara <dtssasi@yahoo. com>
wrote:
>
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> hai friends
> i m TTA working for Pan african network ob behalf of TCIL, at
Benin west africa
> as mentioned by Mr.Rajesh the DA rate given by the TCIL is only 15 USD
(fixed not varying according to country)
> Â
> the rate is fixed in the year 1975! TCIL is not going to make any hike
in the DA rate!
> Â
> if any queries mail to me!
> regds
> sasikumara.G
> +229-98860347
>
> --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Bandhan.P.Singh <email13@gmail. com>
> Subject: [TTABSNL] A mail from an engineer Friend working in Africa
Project.
>
>
> To: "TTA BSNL" <ttabsnl@yahoogroups .com>
> Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 11:52 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Hi friends,
> i am posting a mail from my frnd which i got 3 days ago who is working
as Design Engineer (equivalent to SDO rank) in CDAC. He is on Foreign
deputation in Africa project. He has been sent by the CDAC mgmt. This is
his third visit in last 1 year.
>
>
> In our case we have been voluntarily asked to join this project.
> As i got calls from frnd regarding DA and all so Pls read the
below Mail........ ....
>
> Hi there !
> Â
> I am doing good. Yes I am in Tanzania. Foreign DA depends from country
to country.You can check with 6 Pay commission details about d latest
rates. For Tanzania the rate is 45 USD per day for first 14 days. For
next 14 days it is 75 %(i.e. 33.75 USD per day) and for the rest of the
days after that it is flat 60 %(i.e. 27 USD per day). This sliding rate
DA holds for every country n every govt. employee on foreign deputation,
only the rates vary from country to country.
>
>
> Â
> Yes I also get my Indian salary. Other allowances/perks are
accommodation, local travel,communicatio n charges,medical etc.
> Â
> Right now at a place called Iringa in Tanzania. My basic is 21K after
d revision of salaries!
> Â Traveling a lot this time, very hectic schedule.
> Â
> regards,
> Rajesh
>
>
> Its worth mentioning here that he told me, when i last met him
personally, that the conditions in that country is not so good and he
has been twice robbed by the locals on gun point. He is lucky that he is
alive now. He was roaming alone when this happened.
>
>
>
> But my question is why BSNL mgmt. is offering only 22 dollars to SDO
and 15 to TTAs in a recent notification. .??
>
> i request our GS to look into this matter as the topic is hot now. The
above rates are implemented since 1985 and never been changed. Some of
the TTAs might be interested in this project for experience, adventure
etc.. We can also contact Executive associations who were making hue and
cry last time we visited Doha, Qatar. This time BSNL employees should
get their genuine share.
>
>
>
> thanks & regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd
>
> --
> Think
> Different... Think Good..!! Â
> Â Â
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>
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>
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>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bandhan Preet Singh,
> Broadband Engineer (TTA),
> BSNL, Mohali, Chd.
>
> Think Different... Think Good..!! Â
> Â Â
> "THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, Â DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"
>


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5. Demands of SNATTA Jalandhar ( Punjab )
Posted by: "Balwinder Mehmi" balmehmi555@yahoo.in balmehmi555
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:50 am ((PDT))

Dear friends,
                 A joint meeting of SNATTA Jalandhar organised on dated - 30.05.2010 at GM office in the presence of district president SNATTA Jalandhar Balwinder singh . District secretary BSNLEU was chief guest, he said that he is with SNATTA & ensure to refer the demands of SNATTA Jalandhar as attached below to Circle secretary & General secretary of BSNLEU in written


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6a. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
Posted by: "Bandhan.P.Singh" email13@gmail.com bsnl_chd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 6:24 am ((PDT))

hi..
great letter...

i request everyone especially NEW Dr.TTAs to write and send such letters
regularly and strongly to BSNLEU leaders Namoobiri and Abhimanyun both.

We should now start thinking resigning from BSNLEU membership and stop funds
to BSNLEU. *its high time that we need mass action.*

*All demands like JTO LICE Exam, designation Change, highest pay scale for
all TTAs*, 5 year eligibility for JTO internal exam etc etc... have not
fulfilled and more than 18 months have been passed since the agreement.

We TTAs are craving for all these demands since 2006... four years (48
months) have been passed.... NO solid result... yes i do agree that in bits
we are successful in getting some demands on the table. i personally think
that most important Issue (Priority-wise) to be solved now is early JTO LICE
exam with 5 yr eligibility, Pay scale for New TTAs, Designation Change

is anyone listening here...?? or like others i have to shut my mouth and
keep doing my job and never think of any promotions and salary hike..!!

oh god.... its the height of patience and frustration...!!

Any body can contact me on my personal Mail.

*Bandhan Preet Singh*


On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:20 PM, VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> [Attachment(s) <#128e92145dd72a1b_128e8cd9cf82a2e8_TopText> from
> VENKATESAN RAD included below]
>
> From
>
> M RAJESH KUMAR
>
> TTA BSS ,
>
> TAMIL NADU.
>
>
>
> To
>
> VAN NAMBOOTHRI
>
> President,
>
> BSNLEU.
>
>
>
> Dear Mr.VAN NAMBOOTHRI
>
>
>
> On behalf of DRTTAs- 2007 & 2008 Batches, I send this letter to inform our
> strong protest against the weak performance so far done by the BSNLEU in the
> issues related to pay revision for DRTTA 2007 & 2008 against implementation
> of 2nd PRC for Non executives. We supported the BSNLEU just because of
> trusting its strong leadership. We hoped that our Pay scale likely to be
> revised with higher than pre revised scale which is well represented by its
> strong leaders. But, now we are really ashamed of the same leadership!
>
> The DRTTA 2007 & 2008 joined in BSNL after 1-1-2007 and before
> signing of the wage agreement between the recognized union and management.
> Due to implementation of 2nd PRC for N.E in BSNL on 07-05-2010, Our
> (DRTTA 2007 & 2008) salary has been reduced and made loses of Rupees Five
> hundred and fifty one (Rs 551 approx. per month). The BSNLEU made gain to
> the employees of who are appointed before 1-1-2007 by making the loss to the
> newly recruited DRTTA 2007-2008 batches. It is like a giving gift to
> somebody by stealing valuable goods from new persons. The magnificent
> achievement said by BSNLEU, it is not been extended to DRTTA 2007 08 batches
> since they have joined after 01-01-2007. But in JTO 2005 batches who are
> joined on or after 1-1-2007 they got their salary hike with 30% fitment in
> their basic salary (whatever may be the reason they fought) then why it is
> not possible to extend same to DRTTA 2007 /08 at least some percentage of
> fitment <30% or proportionate bunch of increment in pay fixation in order to
> avoid the pay loss. It is due to the lack of BSNLEU But the BSNLEU not even
> given the courtesy on DRTTA 2007-2008. BSNLEU never bother about the issues
> given by our DRTTA 2007-2008 while during the agitation conducted by BSNLEU
> on August 19 & 20 / 2009. We have participated in the strike called by
> BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 2009, we lost our 2 days salary also. But we never
> expect this kind of activities of BSNELU.
>
>
>
>
>
> Whenever we met you, you always had a sweet smile on your noble face. But
> we never thought that you were cutting our throats with a smiling face. Now
> you have proved it!. To the ultra joke you have included the demands of
> contract labours issue in the web site for the interest of CITU & CPIM. It
> indicates that BSNLEU has some hidden agenda which is beneficial neither to
> BSNL employees nor BSNL. BSNLEU represents the employees of BSNL and not
> the contract workers. You were elected as a recognized union of BSNL
> employees and not the contract workers. We voted for you to represent our
> issues and not the contract workers. Management has already clarified that
> this subject is beyond the scope of the recognized union and we, the
> employees of BSNL, feel that this is none of our business. We all knew that
> BSNL has already become a sinking ship and struggling for its life among the
> multinational telecom companies. In this situation, the demands (Merger of
> IDA for pensioners, Minimum wages for contract labours, etc,.) put forwarded
> by the BSNLEU are really astonishing! It seems that you people are thinking
> how to sink it early by cramming it with unnecessary issues in addition to
> the existing matters. And, it is worth thinking that *more fruits are not
> getting from a tree having more leaves.* If you are not able to solve the
> genuine matters like our pay reduction in 2nd pay revision of DRTTAs 2007
> & 2008, then in what matter you are trying to excel! It is highly ridiculous
> to your leadership if you are still urging for the beneficiary of outsiders
> who are working for cleaning like works and later demanding a group D
> promotion /salary for them! And the funniest matter in which the people are
> laughing at you, is that you are doing all these by ignoring the genuine
> problems of DRTTAs- the permanent employees of BSNL! Now we all are thinking
> that what this union is for! Are you really work for the beneficiary of
> BSNL? Now, it is very suspicious that you are implementing some hidden
> political agenda in BSNL.
>
> If your response is not positive then we will stop our union membership
> fee in the coming months onwards It is not so hopeful for you to look only
> into the present situation. Today may be of yours, but don't forget the
> tomorrow. On that day we would be so powerful as you people today, that to
> even block your IDA pension, medical reimbursement after retirement, time
> bound promotion, illegal pre-qualification exam of TMs etc. So we hope you
> keep your stardom which we, DRTTAs have been given to you as earlier.
>
>
>
>
> RAJESH KUMAR M
>
>
>
>
>
> Copy to : All leaders of BSNLEU
>
>
>

--
regards,

Bandhan Preet Singh,
Broadband Engineer (TTA),
BSNL, Mohali, Chd.

Think Different...Think Good..!!

"THINK GOOD--SPREAD GOOD, DO GOOD--HAVE GOOD"


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6b. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
Posted by: "pankaj saner" pankaj.saner@yahoo.com pankaj.saner
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 7:58 am ((PDT))

very good rajesh kumar 
--- On Sun, 30/5/10, VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Attachment]
To: chqbsnleu@sify.com
Cc: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, chellappa_bsnleu@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 1:20 PM


 





[Attachment(s) from VENKATESAN RAD included below]


From
        M RAJESH KUMAR
         TTA BSS ,
         TAMIL NADU.
 
To
        VAN NAMBOOTHRI    
         President,
         BSNLEU.
 
Dear Mr.VAN NAMBOOTHRI
 
On behalf of DRTTAs- 2007 & 2008 Batches, I send this letter to inform our strong protest against the weak performance so far done by the BSNLEU in the issues related to pay revision for DRTTA 2007 & 2008 against implementation of 2nd PRC for Non executives. We supported the BSNLEU just because of trusting its strong leadership. We hoped that our Pay scale likely to be revised with higher than pre revised scale which is well represented by its strong leaders. But, now we are really ashamed of the same leadership!
            The DRTTA 2007 & 2008 joined in BSNL after 1-1-2007 and before signing of the wage agreement between the recognized union and management.   Due to implementation of 2nd PRC for N.E in BSNL on 07-05-2010, Our (DRTTA 2007 & 2008) salary has been reduced and made loses of Rupees Five hundred and fifty one (Rs 551 approx. per month). The BSNLEU made gain to the employees of who are appointed before 1-1-2007 by making the loss to the newly recruited DRTTA 2007-2008 batches. It is like a giving gift to somebody by stealing valuable goods from new persons. The magnificent achievement said by BSNLEU, it is not been extended to DRTTA 2007 08
batches since they have joined after 01-01-2007. But in JTO 2005 batches who are joined on or after 1-1-2007 they got their salary hike with 30% fitment in their basic salary (whatever may be the reason they fought) then why it is not possible to extend same to DRTTA 2007 /08 at least some percentage of fitment <30% or proportionate bunch of increment in pay fixation in order to avoid the pay loss. It is due to the lack of BSNLEU But the BSNLEU not even given the courtesy on DRTTA 2007-2008. BSNLEU never bother about the issues given by our DRTTA 2007-2008 while during the agitation conducted by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 / 2009. We have participated in the strike called by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 2009, we lost our 2 days salary also. But we never expect this kind of activities of BSNELU.
 
 
  Whenever we met you, you always had a sweet smile on your noble face. But we never thought that you were cutting our throats with a smiling face. Now you have proved it!. To the ultra joke you have included the demands of contract labours issue in the web site for the interest of CITU & CPIM. It indicates that BSNLEU has some hidden agenda which is beneficial neither to BSNL employees nor BSNL.   BSNLEU represents the employees of BSNL and not the contract workers. You were elected as a recognized union of BSNL employees and not the contract workers. We voted for you to represent our issues and not the contract workers. Management has already clarified that this subject is beyond the scope of the recognized union and we, the employees of BSNL,
feel that this is none of our business. We all knew that BSNL has already become a sinking ship and struggling for its life among the multinational telecom companies. In this situation, the demands (Merger of IDA for pensioners, Minimum wages for contract labours, etc,.) put forwarded by the BSNLEU are really astonishing! It seems that you people are thinking how to sink it early by cramming it with unnecessary issues in addition to the existing matters. And, it is worth thinking that more fruits are not getting from a tree having more leaves. If you are not able to solve the genuine matters like our pay reduction in 2nd pay revision of DRTTAs 2007 & 2008, then in what matter you are trying to excel! It is highly ridiculous to your leadership if you are still urging for the beneficiary of outsiders who are working for cleaning like works and later demanding a group D promotion /salary for them! And the funniest matter in which
the people are laughing at you, is that you are doing all these by ignoring the genuine problems of DRTTAs- the permanent employees of BSNL! Now we all are thinking that what this union is for! Are you really work for the beneficiary of BSNL? Now, it is very suspicious that you are   implementing some hidden political agenda in BSNL.
  If your response is not positive then we will stop our union membership fee in the coming months onwards It is not so hopeful for you to look only into the present situation. Today may be of yours, but don't forget the tomorrow. On that day we would be so powerful as you people today, that to even block your IDA pension, medical reimbursement after retirement, time bound promotion, illegal pre-qualification exam of TMs etc. So we hope you keep your stardom which we, DRTTAs have been given to you as earlier.
 
                                                                                                            RAJESH KUMAR M
 
 
Copy to : All leaders of BSNLEU






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6c. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Atta
Posted by: "sridhar rama" sri_wgl007@yahoo.co.in sri_wgl007
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 7:59 am ((PDT))

Hi, Rajesh Kumar
     Thanks a lot, for writing such a STRONG letter to Mr. VAN. I cannot resist without appreciating you.These are all the glaring FACTs(truth) U have represented. I request all Post 2007 TTA's to convey their anguish & protest to the highest leadership of BSNLEU

With regards,
Sridhar, TTA(2002 batch)
Wgl SSA, AP
9490341588
--- On Sun, 30/5/10, VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: VENKATESAN RAD <venk212@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007 [1 Attachment]
To: chqbsnleu@sify.com
Cc: ttabsnl@yahoogroups.com, chellappa_bsnleu@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 1:20 PM

 





[Attachment(s) from VENKATESAN RAD included below]


From
        M RAJESH KUMAR
         TTA BSS ,
         TAMIL NADU.
 
To
        VAN NAMBOOTHRI    
         President,
         BSNLEU.
 
Dear Mr.VAN NAMBOOTHRI
 
On behalf of DRTTAs- 2007 & 2008 Batches, I send this letter to inform our strong protest against the weak performance so far done by the BSNLEU in the issues related to pay revision for DRTTA 2007 & 2008 against implementation of 2nd PRC for Non executives. We supported the BSNLEU just because of trusting its strong leadership. We hoped that our Pay scale likely to be revised with higher than pre revised scale which is well represented by its strong leaders. But, now we are really ashamed of the same leadership!
            The DRTTA 2007 & 2008 joined in BSNL after 1-1-2007 and before signing of the wage agreement between the recognized union and management.   Due to implementation of 2nd PRC for N.E in BSNL on 07-05-2010, Our (DRTTA 2007 & 2008) salary has been reduced and made loses of Rupees Five hundred and fifty one (Rs 551 approx. per month). The BSNLEU made gain to the employees of who are appointed before 1-1-2007 by making the loss to the newly recruited DRTTA 2007-2008 batches. It is like a giving gift to somebody by stealing valuable goods from new persons. The magnificent achievement said by BSNLEU, it is not been extended to DRTTA 2007 08
batches since they have joined after 01-01-2007. But in JTO 2005 batches who are joined on or after 1-1-2007 they got their salary hike with 30% fitment in their basic salary (whatever may be the reason they fought) then why it is not possible to extend same to DRTTA 2007 /08 at least some percentage of fitment <30% or proportionate bunch of increment in pay fixation in order to avoid the pay loss. It is due to the lack of BSNLEU But the BSNLEU not even given the courtesy on DRTTA 2007-2008. BSNLEU never bother about the issues given by our DRTTA 2007-2008 while during the agitation conducted by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 / 2009. We have participated in the strike called by BSNLEU on August 19 & 20 2009, we lost our 2 days salary also. But we never expect this kind of activities of BSNELU.
 
 
  Whenever we met you, you always had a sweet smile on your noble face. But we never thought that you were cutting our throats with a smiling face. Now you have proved it!. To the ultra joke you have included the demands of contract labours issue in the web site for the interest of CITU & CPIM. It indicates that BSNLEU has some hidden agenda which is beneficial neither to BSNL employees nor BSNL.   BSNLEU represents the employees of BSNL and not the contract workers. You were elected as a recognized union of BSNL employees and not the contract workers. We voted for you to represent our issues and not the contract workers. Management has already clarified that this subject is beyond the scope of the recognized union and we, the employees of BSNL,
feel that this is none of our business. We all knew that BSNL has already become a sinking ship and struggling for its life among the multinational telecom companies. In this situation, the demands (Merger of IDA for pensioners, Minimum wages for contract labours, etc,.) put forwarded by the BSNLEU are really astonishing! It seems that you people are thinking how to sink it early by cramming it with unnecessary issues in addition to the existing matters. And, it is worth thinking that more fruits are not getting from a tree having more leaves. If you are not able to solve the genuine matters like our pay reduction in 2nd pay revision of DRTTAs 2007 & 2008, then in what matter you are trying to excel! It is highly ridiculous to your leadership if you are still urging for the beneficiary of outsiders who are working for cleaning like works and later demanding a group D promotion /salary for them! And the funniest matter in which
the people are laughing at you, is that you are doing all these by ignoring the genuine problems of DRTTAs- the permanent employees of BSNL! Now we all are thinking that what this union is for! Are you really work for the beneficiary of BSNL? Now, it is very suspicious that you are   implementing some hidden political agenda in BSNL.
  If your response is not positive then we will stop our union membership fee in the coming months onwards It is not so hopeful for you to look only into the present situation. Today may be of yours, but don't forget the tomorrow. On that day we would be so powerful as you people today, that to even block your IDA pension, medical reimbursement after retirement, time bound promotion, illegal pre-qualification exam of TMs etc. So we hope you keep your stardom which we, DRTTAs have been given to you as earlier.
 
                                                                                                            RAJESH KUMAR M
 
 
Copy to : All leaders of BSNLEU





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6d. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
Posted by: "Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav" yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in yadavashishkumarbsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:31 am ((PDT))


DEAR RAJESH,
                                  such strong direct memorendom to our noble comarade hon.NAMBOODARI IS the necesity of this time their should be no mediator in this matter because it is not only the matter of our new friends who joined BSNL after 2007but it is matter of BSNL FUTURE because EXPLOITEDC&FRUSTED workers never give better OUTPUT.
 
WITHREGARDS                                                            ashishkumaryadav
                                                                                     JALANDHARCITY
 

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6e. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 10:34 am ((PDT))

Oh,NO dear RAJESH ...It is not Mr namboodiri who is paying u.;Why we bend so much??????If ur GM says u to ask representative union or anyone for that matter immediately go to court .There is no other way around.


________________________________
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav <yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 8:56:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TTABSNL] Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007

 
DEAR RAJESH,
>                                  such strong direct memorendom to our noble comarade hon.NAMBOODARI IS the necesity of this time their should be no mediator in this matter because it is not only the matter of our new friends who joined BSNL after 2007but it is matter of BSNL FUTURE because EXPLOITEDC&FRUSTED workers never give better OUTPUT.
>
>WITHREGARDS                                                            ashishkumaryadav
>                                                                                     JALANDHARCITY
>


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6f. Re: Representation to BSNLEU against pay loss for DRTTA 2007
Posted by: "santosh" santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in santosh.bsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 10:35 am ((PDT))


HALLO DEAR RAJESH.............

I HAD ALREADY WRITTEN 3 LETTERS TIME-TO-TIME TO BSNLEU LEADERS...........but they are not ready to see mirror............

LINK ARE HERE----->>>>>>


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIsCTEMATZf5qpvJUUHsVhT-fDpIeeoDP6HstFhwskL0uSTn9surbgLp-09DSnNnwF2yUaibr1TeiBrl4ShrdovDImdyeqjAHepw/LETTER%20%20%20%20%20TO%20ABHIMANYU.pdf


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIsCTN6kq4H5qpvJ7NMKJkYjxU50FhKyM8INSIV-lOwGGkTd97RJpfwNowmtiR54w109MiIFfpgfJmaDZ6tT4JxbIqABp13qkFqJ/LETTER%20TO%20VAN.pdf

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIsCTCtNyED5qpvJlPtraw-_Jvd6lRcEJZ0pPO_lY_RZmlcDB4Q8o2utI__wi3txP2YtC4b5fmb3zuMEZzRFMmyp5WaDN9SuJNRE/letter%20VAN%202301.pdf


it is shameless that a lot of leaders(?) are not agree with the fact that salary of 2007 & 2008 batch TTA's is decreasing..............

NOW IT IS TIME TO REACT......................PROPERLY ..........


THNX


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7a. File - Datase for TTABSNL group.doc
Posted by: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 6:30 am ((PDT))

File : Datase for TTABSNL group.doc
Description : Database for the TTABSNL Group


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8. File - database
Posted by: "TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com" TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 6:30 am ((PDT))


Hello friends

pls update your and y our ssa details at this link, its urgent....

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTABSNL/database?method=addRecord&tbl=8

--
Regards:-
G S Rajawat
Group Moderator TTABSNL
Rajasthan Circle
9413424883
gsrajawat@gmail.com


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9a. Re: DRRTA after 2007 Resignation from BSNLEU
Posted by: "pankaj saner" pankaj.saner@yahoo.com pankaj.saner
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 7:58 am ((PDT))

I am also member of bslneu if they are taking any action i will resign from union in next month.pankaj sanerTTA BBNANDURBAR (MH)

--- On Sat, 29/5/10, santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in> wrote:

From: santosh <santosh.bsnl@yahoo.in>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Re: DRRTA after 2007 Resignation from BSNLEU
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 10:00 PM


 





it was well known that salary of new TTA's will be defenetly decrease approx. 6 months ago................

in my circle CALCUTTA TELEPHONES DISTRICT, approx. all TTA's are resigned from BSNLEU in DEC 2009 to put pressure on BSNLEU...........rest will resign in JUNE month................

wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- In TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com, "Arun" <arunerumely@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> YOUR DECISION IS RIGHT,MY FULL SUPPORTS FOR YOU

>





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10. Reg pay revision
Posted by: "nannapaneni@rocketmail.com" nannapaneni@rocketmail.com nannapaneni@rocketmail.com
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:26 am ((PDT))

Why not to go to court regarding pay revision


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11a. SNATTA JALANDHAR BOWING DOWN INFRONT OF BSNLEU
Posted by: "Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav" yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in yadavashishkumarbsnl
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))

dear snattins,
            memorendam given by SNATTA JALADHAR IS NOT ENOUGH to protect the right of newly recruited TTAS who are facing recovery from their salaries.IT is just showing LOOYPOP TO newly recruited TTAS.AS BADANPREET SINGH QUOTED EARLIER that some of TTAS ARE busy in saving THEIR POST .THIS MEMORENDUM IS ONE OF PART OF THAT GOAL.
WITHREGARDS
                                                                                                        ASHISHYADAV
                                                                                                   JALANDHARCITY
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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11b. Re: SNATTA JALANDHAR BOWING DOWN INFRONT OF BSNLEU
Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 10:36 am ((PDT))

Friends ....ttas.and comrades...It is good to see that some right thinking people are responding.Do not wait for a saviour when all hell breakout...Show courage by resigning from EU.You can always go back after all this injustice is removed At least they(EU) will learn a lesson that they cannot fool.everyone for all time..TTA JOYJOHN-9447869310.


 

________________________________
From: Ashish Kumar bsnl Yadav <yadavashishkumarbsnl@yahoo.in>
To: TTABSNL@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 8:40:09 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] SNATTA JALANDHAR BOWING DOWN INFRONT OF BSNLEU

 
dear snattins,
            memorendam given by SNATTA JALADHAR IS NOT ENOUGH to protect the right of newly recruited TTAS who are facing recovery from their salaries.IT is just showing LOOYPOP TO newly recruited TTAS.AS BADANPREET SINGH QUOTED EARLIER that some of TTAS ARE busy in saving THEIR POST .THIS MEMORENDUM IS ONE OF PART OF THAT GOAL.
WITHREGARDS
                                                                                                        ASHISHYADAV
                                                                                                   JALANDHARCITY


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12a. why
Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:30 am ((PDT))

Friends,ttas and comrades........Why waste valuable time???????Resign enmasse from BSNLEU to show that we are united.(New ttas can reduce their loss by Rs -15/- pm ) Here are some points to discuss--

(1).  BSNLEU took us for granted  because we went on strike for their cause without having a consensus among us.To elaborate..Not a single point on the strike notice was even remotely going to affect us.
(2).  SNATTIANS were fooled bysomeone in authority by posting a message that our member will not sign the WR,and the same was promptly removed immediately.
(3). This platform is used as a recruiting ground for the leftist tradeunion.
(4).  When we as a group is showing some signs of improvement and ahealthy and democratic way of airing their views, some moderator immediately step in to gag their voice.(say funny reasons like turbulance etc)
(5).  Most of the ttas posting their views are office bearers of  EU hence will not quit sacrificing their comfort.Others giving their wisecrak try to divert the attention from the main issue by giving health tips,philosophy ,personal attack insult etc..We should grow....
(6).  Have u all ever thought why only a handful of ttas are visiting this paltform??TTAs having registered in snatta site doesnt mean that they r all part of this.We should take care of even one TTA if left behind. These are not allegations but some points if anyone forgets.Start a debate on the points . You can always agree to disagree but no personal attack please..Finally,    why more than one moderator?? When some one is banned or his opinion is NOT shown the light of the day, each moderator wash his hand blaming each other. Lets stop this.WE CAN HAVE AN OPINION POLL ON THIS PLATFORM WHERE EACH MEMBER WILL HAVE ONLY ONE VOTE THUS MATTER OF IMPORTANCE LIKE STRIKE/SUPPORT TO THE UNION/COLLECTION OF MONEY ETC CAN BE DECIDED IN A MORE DEMOCRATIC WAY   

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12b. Re: why
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:35 pm ((PDT))

All the points r good . I admire .
murali tta trichy

________________________________
From: joykakkayam john <kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 30 May, 2010 9:33:57 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] why


Friends,ttas and comrades.... ....Why waste valuable time???????Resign enmasse from BSNLEU to show that we are united.(New ttas can reduce their loss by Rs -15/- pm ) Here are some points to discuss--

(1). BSNLEU took us for granted because we went on strike for their cause without having a consensus among us.To elaborate..Not a single point on the strike notice was even remotely going to affect us.
(2). SNATTIANS were fooled bysomeone in authority by posting a message that our member will not sign the WR,and the same was promptly removed immediately.
(3). This platform is used as a recruiting ground for the leftist tradeunion.
(4). When we as a group is showing some signs of improvement and ahealthy and democratic way of airing their views, some moderator immediately step in to gag their voice.(say funny reasons like turbulance etc)
(5). Most of the ttas posting their views are office bearers of EU hence will not quit sacrificing their comfort.Others giving their wisecrak try to divert the attention from the main issue by giving health tips,philosophy ,personal attack insult etc..We should grow....
(6). Have u all ever thought why only a handful of ttas are visiting this paltform??TTAs having registered in snatta site doesnt mean that they r all part of this.We should take care of even one TTA if left behind. These are not allegations but some points if anyone forgets.Start a debate on the points . You can always agree to disagree but no personal attack please..Finally, why more than one moderator?? When some one is banned or his opinion is NOT shown the light of the day, each moderator wash his hand blaming each other. Lets stop this.WE CAN HAVE AN OPINION POLL ON THIS PLATFORM WHERE EACH MEMBER WILL HAVE ONLY ONE VOTE THUS MATTER OF IMPORTANCE LIKE STRIKE/SUPPORT TO THE UNION/COLLECTION OF MONEY ETC CAN BE DECIDED IN A MORE DEMOCRATIC WAY

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13. not working well distt body SNATTA in amritsar
Posted by: "dhiraj Prajapati" bsnl1977@yahoo.in bsnl1977
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 9:32 am ((PDT))

hi according to subject there is no any activity done by distt body of SNATTA in amritsar.many newly recruited TTA dont know that who is distt secretary and who is distt president of SNATTA in amritsar. very weak performed of distt body since its formation .so i request to SNATTA circle secretary punjab  that arrange newly distt body of SNATTA in amritsar because old distt body is old and not working properly.
with regards
dhiraj kumar TTA
amritsar.


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14a. Reg
Posted by: "joykakkayam john" kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com kakkayamjoy
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 11:13 am ((PDT))

YES FRIEND . WE ALL POST 2007 TTAS OF  KERALA WILL FIRST GIVE REPRESENTATION TO RESPECTIVE GM THEN AFTER REASONABLE TIME WILL CERTAINLY MOVE COURT.WILL NOT BE PLEADING TO ANY TOM,DICK OR HARRY FOR OUR SALARY. 


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14b. Re: Reg
Posted by: "muralidharan muralidharan" ranjumd@yahoo.co.in ranjumd
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 5:41 pm ((PDT))

I think we must have a permanently employed penal of lawyers so as to go to court
for each and everything . Neither the department nor the union is ready to hear our cry . Our unity should be some more strong and powerful . Our CHQ has a tough task to handle the new TTAs wage anomaly issue , change of name from TTA to JE(t) and LDCE and so on.
murali tta trichy ssa


________________________________
From: joykakkayam john <kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com>
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 30 May, 2010 10:16:31 PM
Subject: [TTABSNL] Reg


YES FRIEND . WE ALL POST 2007 TTAS OF KERALA WILL FIRST GIVE REPRESENTATION TO RESPECTIVE GM THEN AFTER REASONABLE TIME WILL CERTAINLY MOVE COURT.WILL NOT BE PLEADING TO ANY TOM,DICK OR HARRY FOR OUR SALARY.

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15a. Re: Why
Posted by: "sathappan natraj" your_satu@yahoo.co.in your_satu
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:06 pm ((PDT))

How does one can agree with all decisions taken by EU? Your last month salary is higher than this new wage revision based salary. What is the use of new wage revision then? All can give option for old wages itself. JTOs after 2007 has been given correct fitment after they have fight against. Will anybody donate as 600? Think


    Sathappan.K
       

--- On Fri, 28/5/10, joykakkayam john <kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: joykakkayam john <kakkayamjoy@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TTABSNL] Why
To: TTABSNL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 5:49 PM


 

Friends,ttas and comrades.... ..... in my opinion we should nt be worried much about the donation of 600 rupees.It is a pittance when comparing about the huge benefit we got from EU.They gave us 30% fitment etc.We will get JE(t),JTO LDCE etc if we agree with whatever EU wants. Afterall,EU is our big brother and we support them blindly without any complaint. 

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